I just saw a card that supposedly came from gate crash. It's a a simic fluxmage with ability evolve.
Evolve when a creature with power bigger then fluxmage enters BF under your control put a +1/1 counter on fluxmage
1{U} move counter to target creature.
Real? And what do you think of evolve?
Can't say I like the ability..,seems legit. Claimed to have been pulled from an M13 pack. {Rootborn Defenses} was pulled from a pack too, everyone thought it was fake.
(http://i.imgur.com/iaLbY.jpg)
Yeah it's power, or toughness. That makes it a little better.
It's like it's Christmas time or something. My favorite tribe, my favorite guild, and a fun (albeit fussy) new mechanic. I am jazzed for Gatecrash!
Im calling real on this one.
Reasons:
1. All formatting is correct on the card (unless i overlooked sonething of course)
2. The mechanic is consistant with the trend of new mechanics suplementing the old ones for each guild.
3. The art is original as far as i know and consistant in the art design trends of the last year.
4. Couples well with the rest of the format as we know it and though abusable this is not broken.
I really dig that card dude.
Find a future card in a current set by mistake, sure, okay. Find another future card from a different future set in a current one again, from the very NEXT set? I think a Wizard did it.
I like it. I hope it's real. It's not overpowered, looks legit, looks fun to play... Fingers crossed!
Too timmy for me. Guess that settles it. Gruul all the way. Unless there is some crazy way to make some wacky strategy with this
I'm really excited for Simic now. Moar Merfolk!!!
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 22, 2012, 08:38:12 AM
Too timmy for me. Guess that settles it. Gruul all the way. Unless there is some crazy way to make some wacky strategy with this
This was sarcasm by the way, gruul is more Timmy than simic. Though I still might choose it. What's gruuls mechanic?
Cloudshift a thragtusk, gain 10 live. Creature goes up 4 +1/1
I'm assuming dropping thragtusk and cloudshift same turn.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on December 22, 2012, 09:47:05 PM
Cloudshift a thragtusk, gain 10 live. Creature goes up 4 +1/1
I'm assuming dropping thragtusk and cloudshift same turn.
How would it go up by 4?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 22, 2012, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on December 22, 2012, 09:47:05 PM
Cloudshift a thragtusk, gain 10 live. Creature goes up 4 +1/1
I'm assuming dropping thragtusk and cloudshift same turn.
How would it go up by 4?
It goes up by 4 cause I can't add, and I am protected by my shield of ignorance.
Wouldnt it just go up by two since his PT would be at 3/4? Unless you removed the counter from the first time {thragtusk} entered the battlefield and then {cloudshift}ed.
First thragtusk makes it a 2/3, cloudshift. Then 3/3 enters making it a 3/4, the thragtusk re-enters for another + making it a 4/5.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on December 23, 2012, 02:16:44 AM
First thragtusk makes it a 2/3, cloudshift. Then 3/3 enters making it a 3/4, the thragtusk re-enters for another + making it a 4/5.
Nope. Cant resolve multiple abilities at once.
{cloudshift} removes AND returns thragtusk before the LTB and ETB triggers can happen. Then statebased is checked and adds the following:
Add a +1/+1 counter
Make a beast
Gain 5 life
You can choose the order though sice these all happened at once, there is a way to make it a 4/5 but only if youre very careful about the order in which you stack this.
We'll need a ruling on evolve to really have this conversation though. Idk if it triggers when the power is lower or resolves when the power is lower. When that check happens will be very immportant.
Eehh, I goofed. For some reason, I was thinking thrag, thrag, token. The order would clearly be thrag, token, thrag again.
The MtG Facebook page just spoiled a card (Fathom Mage) that has this ability. Looks like it's legit.
----------------------OFFICIAL SPOILERS---------------------- (Simic and Gruul Keywords as well)
Fathom Mage -- {2}{G}{U}
Creature -- Human Wizard -- Rare
Evolve (Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, if that creature has greater power or toughness than this creature, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
Whenever a +1/+1 counter is placed on Fathom Mage, you may draw a card.
1/1
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Rubblehulk -- {4}{R}{G}
Creature -- Elemental -- Rare
Rubblehulk's power and toughness are each equal to the number of lands you control.
Bloodrush - {1}{R}{G}, Discard Rubblehulk: Target attacking creature gets +X/+X until end of turn. Where X is the number of lands you control.
*/*
Make sure you have your playset of {Kessig Wolf Run} before gate crash hits.
Ya I think I'm going gruul or Simic unless dimir or boros has a great mechanic.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on December 25, 2012, 12:45:28 PM
Ya I think I'm going gruul or Simic unless dimir or boros has a great mechanic.
So far I like all of the new mechanics, I hope Orzhov has a sick one.
LOOL bloodrush is so powerful!! And I like the simic one too.
The card I am most excited for is {Breeding Pool} haha
Quote from: Testset on December 25, 2012, 02:25:53 PM
Why have we heard nothing about Dimir? I mean, it suits their personality, but considering that DOTP2013 released everything BUT Dimir...
It has been confirmed for Gatecrash, right?
Yep, all five of the other guilds. Give it a day or two, hell, spoiler season JUST started, and it's Christmas, we might get some nice gifts (previews) today
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on December 25, 2012, 02:24:12 PM
LOOL bloodrush is so powerful!!
My thoughts exactly. Reminds me of cycling, only repurposed.
Just saw the new keyword for Boros... Its called Battalion... If you havent seen it yet, look it up.
The card I saw was called Firemane Angel... It looks alright.. Has the built in Helix.
Quote from: Testset on December 26, 2012, 10:22:42 AM
Just looked it up: Firemane Avenger. Battalion functions much like {Odric, Master Tactician}'s ability. Seems legit to me.
so if i had both these on the battlefield, would i have to attack with six creatures to get them both to activate their abilities?
Firemane Avenger - {2}{R}{W}
Creature -- Angel -- Rare
Flying
Battalion - Whenever Firemane Avenger and at least two other creatures attack, Firemane Avenger deals 3 damage to target creature or player and you gain 3 life.
3/3
Odric Helix on a stick. It's insane!
Lol has everyone got their {Hellrider} playsets? He's gunna be crazy with that keyword.
Quote from: Wally on December 26, 2012, 07:58:54 PM
Lol has everyone got their {Hellrider} playsets? He's gunna be crazy with that keyword.
I wish I had some, I don't have any sadly =/
Quote from: Wally on December 26, 2012, 07:58:54 PM
Lol has everyone got their {Hellrider} playsets? He's gunna be crazy with that keyword.
That's why I'm holding on to my playset! :D
I don't like Orzhov's very much. The other ones seem a lot more powerful. But here we are:
Treasury Thrull - {4}{W}{B}
Creature -- Thrull -- Rare
Extort (Whenever you cast a spell, you may pay W/B [Hybrid]. If you do, each opponent loses 1 life, and you gain that much life.)
Whenever Treasury Thrull attacks, you may return target artifact, creature or enchantment card from your graveyard to your hand.
4/4
P.S. Dimir, give me a mill Keyword and {Glimpse the Unthinkable} and I promise I will play mill until next rotation...
I know this seems super conditional but in modern extort with phyrexian mana spells?
Quote from: bravado883 on December 27, 2012, 12:29:14 PM
As long as there are some good one or two CMC extort cards to get it going early, which I'm sure there will be. I still think battalion looks strongest of the new mechanics so far.
Oh my god yeah, that Angel is replacing Odric in my {R}{W} Humans. With {Sacred Foundry} coming back, the mana base is going to be sweet. And I already know there's going to be good Boros Humans coming out, that deck is already OP, I can't wait!
Finally, we get our Dimir keyword. Seems like it's going to be extremely powerful with unblockable dudes. I want to see it on a sick card, here we go:
Whispering Madness - {2}{U}{B}
Sorcery -- Rare
Each player discards his or her hand, then draws card equal to the greatest number of cards discarded this way.
Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.)
give meeee a hybrid blue/black single mana spell that gives cypher to target spell on the stack
and then give me a playset of {Glimpse The Unthinkable} with my {Tormented Soul}
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 28, 2012, 12:20:03 AM
Finally, we get our Dimir keyword. Seems like it's going to be extremely powerful with unblockable dudes. I want to see it on a sick card, here we go:
Whispering Madness - {2}{U}{B}
Sorcery -- Rare
Each player discards his or her hand, then draws card equal to the greatest number of cards discarded this way.
Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.)
Oh my...wow. I'm going dimir in the prerelease...unless, simic has some sweet cards. When are the event decks spoiled?
This would go great in my {B}{W} aggro deck. The mechanic that is
Quote from: Birdbrain on December 28, 2012, 09:39:28 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on December 28, 2012, 12:20:03 AM
Finally, we get our Dimir keyword. Seems like it's going to be extremely powerful with unblockable dudes. I want to see it on a sick card, here we go:
Whispering Madness - {2}{U}{B}
Sorcery -- Rare
Each player discards his or her hand, then draws card equal to the greatest number of cards discarded this way.
Cipher (Then you may exile this spell card encoded on a creature you control. Whenever that creature deals combat damage to a player, its controller may cast a copy of the encoded card without paying its mana cost.)
Oh my...wow. I'm going dimir in the prerelease...unless, simic has some sweet cards. When are the event decks spoiled?
This would go great in my {B}{W} aggro deck. The mechanic that is
They shouldn't be spoiled until after Gatecrash drops no? Idk, I'm not too sure on those
Event decks are usually about a month after release. Sometime around gameday.
So what mechanic are we liking for prerealease? I got fooled by populate(not enough token gen cards in set) last time. Don't want the same thing to happen again.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on December 30, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
So what mechanic are we liking for prerealease? I got fooled by populate(not enough token gen cards in set) last time. Don't want the same thing to happen again.
lol I went selesnya in my standard deck for populate. I should have kept up on the RTR spoilers a little better it seems ::)
Standard it's not bad. But sealed not so much. It's to dependent on getting token cars first. And if you didn't draw any, oh well your screwed.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on December 30, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
So what mechanic are we liking for prerealease? I got fooled by populate(not enough token gen cards in set) last time. Don't want the same thing to happen again.
I like evolve. Your stuff is getting big really fast.
Holy crap holy crap holy crap. We just got like 25 more cards spoiled. I like the Bird Mutant, I think {Cloudfin Raptor} was the name?
Cloudfin Raptor - {U}
Creature -- Bird Mutant -- Common
Flying, Evolve
0/1
Mmm, oh yeah baby.
I think Simic will be Gatecrash's Rakdos, if ya know what I mean, we'll see what Boros has to offer
EDIT: Nvm scratch that, Rakdos had a million removal spells and Hasty dudes, but still, Simic looks gewd =P
ALSO: Batallion seems to be situational to the card, it's not just a straight up Helix effect, it's a {Odric, Master Tactician} triggered ability. I.E., Batallion - When X and at least two other creatures attack, then Y.
I'm digging cipher for the time being. Wil have to wait and see what else Dimir offers. Shame we can't have a pw for each guild.
i may have to build a side deck for the dimir abilty. i like it a lot.
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138251&stc=1&d=1357016726)
Wow. This dude is off the walls bonkers. When Wizards decided this was getting printed, how much pot were they on?
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138252&stc=1&d=1357016726)
Meh. Very mediocre.
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 01, 2013, 12:26:25 AM
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Wow. This dude is off the walls bonkers. When Wizards decided this was getting printed, how much pot were they on?
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138252&stc=1&d=1357016726)
Meh. Very mediocre, and probably nearly as bad as clone, but is a repeatable legend killer.
You're forgetting the Orzhov guild leader. It and Lazav are absolutely insane!
Whoops. Kept putting up the wrong scan! 😁
Love the orzhov one!!!
I don't like Ohrzov all that much. I think I'm going with simic.
Any1 think burning tree emissary is amazing. It works nicely with restoration angel as well
Quote from: Empathie on January 01, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Any1 think burning tree emissary is amazing. It works nicely with restoration angel as well
If can definelty get you the mana you need if you've got 2 forests need a mountain. Can't see it getting much play, a card that fixes mana situationally that way takes up space.
I can see it in RDW...
Cast a 2/2 and a {Lightning Mauler} or {Gore House Chainwalker} on turn 2. Seems good
Quote from: Dudecore on January 01, 2013, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: Empathie on January 01, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Any1 think burning tree emissary is amazing. It works nicely with restoration angel as well
If can definelty get you the mana you need if you've got 2 forests need a mountain. Can't see it getting much play, a card that fixes mana situationally that way takes up space.
This card will see an amazing amount play and drive {huntmaster of the fells}'s price up. Naya will already be a strong color combo based on utility board pressure and using {rootborn defenses} against wrath and supporting with some burn and white removal. The deck's weakness will likely be card draw but if {mentor of the meek} or some other good card advantage is used or printed in this new set then the shaman will undoubtably see play.
All I see is abusing {Invisible Stalker} with Lazav and Whispering Madness!
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 01, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 01, 2013, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: Empathie on January 01, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Any1 think burning tree emissary is amazing. It works nicely with restoration angel as well
If can definelty get you the mana you need if you've got 2 forests need a mountain. Can't see it getting much play, a card that fixes mana situationally that way takes up space.
This card will see an amazing amount play and drive {huntmaster of the fells}'s price up. Naya will already be a strong color combo based on utility board pressure and using {rootborn defenses} against wrath and supporting with some burn and white removal. The deck's weakness will likely be card draw but if {mentor of the meek} or some other good card advantage is used or printed in this new set then the shaman will undoubtably see play.
Is everyone reading the same card? It's a 2 mana drop that gives you 2 mana. It's just a free vanilla creature. I don't see it doing much heavy lifting, it's not even ramp. I can't imagine seeing it hit constructed.
Quote from: Dudecore on January 01, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 01, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 01, 2013, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: Empathie on January 01, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Any1 think burning tree emissary is amazing. It works nicely with restoration angel as well
If can definelty get you the mana you need if you've got 2 forests need a mountain. Can't see it getting much play, a card that fixes mana situationally that way takes up space.
This card will see an amazing amount play and drive {huntmaster of the fells}'s price up. Naya will already be a strong color combo based on utility board pressure and using {rootborn defenses} against wrath and supporting with some burn and white removal. The deck's weakness will likely be card draw but if {mentor of the meek} or some other good card advantage is used or printed in this new set then the shaman will undoubtably see play.
Is everyone reading the same card? It's a 2 mana drop that gives you 2 mana. It's just a free vanilla creature. I don't see it doing much heavy lifting, it's not even ramp. I can't imagine seeing it hit constructed.
It color fixes, casts for {G} or {R}, is a 2/2 for 2 and on top of that it is part of multiple archetypes that are already strong and benefit greatly from dudes rapidly entering play.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 01, 2013, 05:42:10 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 01, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 01, 2013, 05:11:11 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 01, 2013, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: Empathie on January 01, 2013, 03:56:07 PM
Any1 think burning tree emissary is amazing. It works nicely with restoration angel as well
If can definelty get you the mana you need if you've got 2 forests need a mountain. Can't see it getting much play, a card that fixes mana situationally that way takes up space.
This card will see an amazing amount play and drive {huntmaster of the fells}'s price up. Naya will already be a strong color combo based on utility board pressure and using {rootborn defenses} against wrath and supporting with some burn and white removal. The deck's weakness will likely be card draw but if {mentor of the meek} or some other good card advantage is used or printed in this new set then the shaman will undoubtably see play.
Is everyone reading the same card? It's a 2 mana drop that gives you 2 mana. It's just a free vanilla creature. I don't see it doing much heavy lifting, it's not even ramp. I can't imagine seeing it hit constructed.
It color fixes, casts for {G} or {R}, is a 2/2 for 2 and on top of that it is part of multiple archetypes that are already strong and benefit greatly from dudes rapidly entering play.
Eh... it's meh. Better than the one in Scas block, and it migr see a little (if any) play.
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/gtc/9wstmvlpdq_en.jpg)
Pretty bad card, and meh limited bomb. Almost definitely the Boros promo, will probably keep some people from playing Boros at the prerelease.
The boros promo is firemane avenger most likely. It was the first card wizards spoiled with the mechanic. Seems to be their way.
Hopefully rubblehulk is the promo card for gruul people
I really like the new ghost council but really want to go gruul for the pre-release.
Dimir seems amazing, but if Boros and Selesnya were in the same set, Boros' mechanic would work best. Simic also seems good, but I want to go Dimir to get some cards for my unlockables deck.
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NEW GIDEON SPOILED!!! Mono white which means I can put him in esper control!!!! YESSSSS
Good haul today. Most of it is meh. The one thing that stands out to me is Clanl Defiance. That right there is what I call a realy good card.
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138285&d=1357102982)
Full art!!
There's one for the angel too
Dimir just looks better and better with every card they add and new Gideon is just sick
I really likethe art on Gideon, but I'm not to excited about the card really :-\
Gideon = beast status. Love the card.
Quote from: Dudecore on January 02, 2013, 03:13:38 AM
Gideon = beast status. Love the card.
I know, right?! A lot of people are bashing him- I think they're crazy! Sure, I might not main deck him in constructed, but he's easily sideboard there against aggro. Not to mention, he's SO strong in GTC limited.
And he has awesome art...
His card is insane. I'm gonna get at least two. Too good to let slip by.
Quote from: ZeroNero on January 02, 2013, 05:42:17 AM
His card is insane. I'm gonna get at least two. Too good to let slip by.
As long as he's not worth a consistent amount I'd like to get 3. Don't get me wrong, he's cool, but I don't want to pay top dollar for him. Please Pro Circuit don't break him right away!
EDIT: Holy crap! His loyalty gain is a +1, so he gets a loyalty counter regardless of whether or not they have dudes, and actually, he gets X+1, where X is the number of dudes they have. Oh mama this guy is beefy!
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 02, 2013, 06:22:43 AM
Quote from: ZeroNero on January 02, 2013, 05:42:17 AM
His card is insane. I'm gonna get at least two. Too good to let slip by.
As long as he's not worth a consistent amount I'd like to get 3. Don't get me wrong, he's cool, but I don't want to pay top dollar for him. Please Pro Circuit don't break him right away!
EDIT: Holy crap! His loyalty gain is a +1, so he gets a loyalty counter regardless of whether or not they have dudes, and actually, he gets X+1, where X is the number of dudes they have. Oh mama this guy is beefy!
That's why he's gonna be broken, he's {Worldfire} and {Thragtusk} rolled into one card for white.
He's low costed, so he won't ruin your day. He won't wildly swing your curve, fits perfectly into Superfriends deck and is a win condition. It's almost like he's a cool artifact on the battlefield and not a Planeswalker. It's an interesting take on them.
Would his ultimate exile himself?
Ah missed that. Thank u
Clan defiance just made me choose gruul for pre-release. That thing will be one of the first playsets I order.
Honestly that's what I wasthinking about Gideon. I don't think he seems maindeck worthy really. A hell of a sideboard card though.
I'm pretty sure I like this set more then RtR. I just don't know what I'm going to build.
I think the new Gideon is seriously overpowered. You guys don't think so? Turn 2 having him on the field he's a 5/5 (at the lowest) who is indestructible and can get in there. If the have blockers, you use his +1 and gain 1-5 more loyalty. I think he's crazy good.
New Gideon is a creep. It's not super important to kill him in most decks, but look at Esper Superfriends or American Superfriends. Just keep using {Terminus}, {Supreme Verdict} and recycle with {Elixir of Immortality}. Add new Gideon, wipe the board and swing in for more damage.
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 02, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
I think the new Gideon is seriously overpowered. You guys don't think so? Turn 2 having him on the field he's a 5/5 (at the lowest) who is indestructible and can get in there. If the have blockers, you use his +1 and gain 1-5 more loyalty. I think he's crazy good.
Turn 2?
I'm with smokin terry I already like this more than rtr too and in the pre release I won't feel like I'll get stuck with some crappy guild all of them will play sweet
The actual artwork for Zameck Guildmage is a letdown compared to the artwork posted above 😥
Dimir is looking pretty sweet.
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 02, 2013, 12:47:41 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 02, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
I think the new Gideon is seriously overpowered. You guys don't think so? Turn 2 having him on the field he's a 5/5 (at the lowest) who is indestructible and can get in there. If the have blockers, you use his +1 and gain 1-5 more loyalty. I think he's crazy good.
Turn 2?
Turn 2 after bringing him out, whenever that may be.
Oh I see what you mean :P
Does Gruul Keyrune remind anyone else of Blanka from Street Fighter?
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735061_10151252394512918_80847862_n.jpg < HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS D:
Quote from: Killin88 on January 02, 2013, 01:43:10 PM
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Looks like fun!
Quote from: Killin88 on January 02, 2013, 01:43:10 PM
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735061_10151252394512918_80847862_n.jpg < HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS D:
He beats {Supreme Verdict} for sure!!!
Quote from: Killin88 on January 02, 2013, 01:43:10 PM
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/735061_10151252394512918_80847862_n.jpg < HAS ANYONE SEEN THIS D:
I already saw this, but he is so good :o
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 02, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
Does Gruul Keyrune remind anyone else of Blanka from Street Fighter?
Lols, have a pic?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 02, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 02, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
Does Gruul Keyrune remind anyone else of Blanka from Street Fighter?
Lols, have a pic?
Blanka
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Gruul Keyrune
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Some of today's goodies.
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Creature - Human Wizard
At the beginning of each end step, if you control four or more creatures named ~, you win the game.
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Creature - Angel
Flying
At the beginning of each combat, choose first strike, vigilance or lifelink.
Creatures you control gain the chosen ability until end of turn.
"Beware the Jedi's blade, for it is hot and full of pain!"
-Ponytrooper
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Creature - ~Fish Mutant
Unblockable
Evolve
0/4
Thanks a lot for all the photos Bozo! Greatly appreciated.
Gideon just made me think of what I'm going to be in prerelease!!!! Either orzhov, gruul, boros or dimir. Can someone help!!!!!
That's four of the five choices, and Gideon only fits in two of those.
I personally am probably going simic splashing white.
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This card is NUTS. This will see serious modern and standard play. I love this card. I just don't like that it is a strictly better version of {Searing Spear}.
Quote from: Maximo on January 02, 2013, 05:50:14 PM
That's four of the five choices, and Gideon only fits in two of those.
I personally am probably going simic splashing white.
Yeah I just picked my top two either orzhov or gruul
Quote from: Testset on January 02, 2013, 06:10:37 PM
It (Skullcrack) only targets players, dude...😉
I know. I guess not strictly better, but if I were playing burn and I could only choose one, I would pick {Skullcrack} any day in this kind of meta. It can be really good for red decks against {Thragtusk} and all he other crazy lifegain in standard. Thragtusk is usually a 3 or 4 for 1, whilethis will reduce it to a 1 or 2 for 1.
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 02, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
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This card is NUTS. This will see serious modern and standard play. I love this card. I just don't like that it is a strictly better version of {Searing Spear}.
LOL.
"Thragtusk". Pass priority.
"Skullcrack".
/trolled
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 02, 2013, 06:19:37 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 02, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
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This card is NUTS. This will see serious modern and standard play. I love this card. I just don't like that it is a strictly better version of {Searing Spear}.
LOL.
"Thragtusk". Pass priority.
"Skullcrack".
/trolled
Love it!
Quote from: Testset on January 02, 2013, 06:26:43 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 02, 2013, 06:19:08 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 02, 2013, 06:10:37 PM
It (Skullcrack) only targets players, dude...😉
I know.
So, while useful, it's not strictly better. Strictly better is for things like {Shock} vs. {Lightning Bolt} or {Raging Goblin} vs. {Mon's Goblin Raiders}.
Personally , I'd rather have the option for removal in most cirumstances.
It removes half of {Thragtusk} :P
Oh I know. I was just being a {Smart Ass}
Quote from: Silent1236 on January 02, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
Oh I know. I was just being a {Smart Ass}
Laughing so hard right now. Bravo, silent, bravo! You just had to link the card!
Regardless {Skullcrack} is a beautiful card, Thraggy is too dominant right now, we need more ways to nerf it, I just hate that damn card.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 02, 2013, 02:40:14 PM
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Does Gruul Keyrune remind anyone else of Blanka from Street Fighter?
Lols, have a pic?
Blanka
(http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0128776fb13a970c-pi)
Gruul Keyrune
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/gtc/5s4gwhr2u9_en.jpg)
HAH! That's awesome dude! I hope you don't mind if I steal that one
{Skullcrack} is gonna be a staple sideboard for any deck running red or even splashing it. It stops half of the two most dominant cards in standard right now, {Thragtusk} and {Sphinx's Revelation}.
Skullcrack. Because damn your {Thragtusk}, and ta ta to your {Sphinx's Revelation}.
(http://imgur.com/p8r3D)
*edit* not sure how to import a picture from mobile so I'll just leave the link for now.
Quote from: Xaol on January 02, 2013, 07:52:23 PM
Skullcrack. Because damn your {Thragtusk}, and ta ta to your {Sphinx's Revelation}.
(http://imgur.com/p8r3D.jpg)
*edit* not sure how to import a picture from mobile so I'll just leave the link for now.
You just put [*img] [*/img] around the link to the pic. (Without the asterisks)
But it has to be the image url with .jpg after it.
Sick tempo that red needs. I would have liked to see this be black, get it out of the hands of Jund and Naya. But either way, works well. Skullcrack will see some play.
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 02, 2013, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 02, 2013, 02:40:14 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 02, 2013, 02:35:00 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 02, 2013, 01:34:04 PM
Does Gruul Keyrune remind anyone else of Blanka from Street Fighter?
Lols, have a pic?
Blanka
(http://codinghorror.typepad.com/.a/6a0120a85dcdae970b0128776fb13a970c-pi)
Gruul Keyrune
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/gtc/5s4gwhr2u9_en.jpg)
HAH! That's awesome dude! I hope you don't mind if I steal that one
Have at it!
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138332&d=1357176992)
Eh, it's ok. Pretty good in limited but probably won't see any constructed play.
6/6 for 4 will be great in limited, definitely.
Quote from: Falcon182 on January 02, 2013, 09:37:09 PM
6/6 for 4 will be great in limited, definitely.
My thoughts exactly. I would have loved this card when I first started playing and just threw stuff into decks lol.
Alms Beast reminds me of {Desecration Demon}. Probably wont meet constructed. Probably meet the casual crowd.
Quote from: Dudecore on January 02, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
Alms Beast reminds me of {Desecration Demon}. Probably wont meet constructed. Probably meet the casual crowd.
Definitely agree here.
Yup pretty much. Since I am a constructed player except for prereleases, I saw it and was like "EWWW" my opponent gains 1 life ot more whenever they chump it? OK.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 02, 2013, 11:32:13 PM
Yup pretty much. Since I am a constructed player except for prereleases, I saw it and was like "EWWW" my opponent gains 1 life ot more whenever they chump it? OK.
I don't have the money to draft muh so that was my reaction as well. According to a friend of mine, he is a good-mediocre bomb in linited.
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 02, 2013, 09:33:06 PM
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Eh, it's ok. Pretty good in limited but probably won't see any constructed play.
So there dudes gain life for blocking? The hell? But if he's a blocker you gain life... Huh, idk bout this guy... even in Limited. I'd hate to crack him at the Prerelease.
Lol he is actually even worse than that.
When he is attacking, your opponent gains life for blocking.
When he is blocking, your opponent's creature that you block with him gains lifelink.
Guh. This is such a bad creature lol. It bows down to {Fire Elemental}.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 03, 2013, 01:46:58 AM
Lol he is actually even worse than that.
When he is attacking, your opponent gains life for blocking.
When he is blocking, your opponent's creature that you block with him gains lifelink.
Guh. This is such a bad creature lol. It bows down to {Fire Elemental}.
Holy suck he does. I was giving him way to much credit, screw this guy!
Run him in a Rbw orzhov rakdos deck with {havoc festival} and all those lose life spells!
He'll be a 6/6 for 4.
Oh wow,he is worse than I thought. Much worse...
Or just give him first strike or pair with silverblade
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138342&d=1357204911)
~High Priest of Penance WB
Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever ~ is dealt damage, you may destroy target nonland permanent.
I got really excited about this dude, then I saw that he had to take damage. He's pretty bad. Is it me or have most of the rares so far seemed like jank?
Edit: updated with english oracle text.
I kind of like it, it forces your opponent to waste removal on a 1/1. Or reap the consequences!
Quote from: Empathie on January 03, 2013, 02:45:56 PM
Or just give him first strike or pair with silverblade
Maybe, I'd love to see it broken. But not by me... Keep it away haha
all the gatecrash set looks nice. can't wait.
He doesn't look terrible. That kills {Searing Spear}, {Pillar of Flame}, etc. and forces them to use something like {Dreadbore}, etc.
Oh that new Gideon is sooo nice... Hehe I can imagine few dcks around him...:D
Mymm anyway have bad feeling about orzhov.. Seems not that strong to me... But this one guy must be fun...:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img803/1740/photoledna03224614.jpg)
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 03, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138342&d=1357204911)
~High Priest of Penance WB
Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever ~ is dealt damage, you may destroy target nonland permanent.
I got really excited about this dude, then I saw that he had to take damage. He's pretty bad. Is it me or have most of the rares so far seemed like jank?
Edit: updated with english oracle text.
How are you mad with this, it's {Black Cat} on crack and it's when it takes damage, period. Looks mean on the board, you smack it with something and blow up whatever. Awesome card, mix it with red and beef {Olivia Voldaren} and blow up a {Jace, Architect of Thought}, I'm happy.
Woah... He's awesome with Olivia.
On a second note I just thought about it, orzhov is made for red {Pillar of Flame} with extort? Too easy and cheap.
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138360&d=1357243181)
Eh... Pretty bad. Limited only, like most of the guildmages.
Quote from: Testset on January 03, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 03, 2013, 08:27:32 PM
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Eh... Pretty bad. Limited only, like most of the guildmages.
I want this in my Casual mill deck. Meet {Glimpse the Unthinkable}, Mr. Guildmage... 😈
{Mind sculpt} too wouldn't be bad
Are you guys forgetting about {Jace, Memory Adept}. 10 life loss seems a little better that "pretty bad." Not to mention {sands of delirium}.
Quote from: whitedrake on January 03, 2013, 04:47:57 PM
Mymm anyway have bad feeling about orzhov.. Seems not that strong to me... But this one guy must be fun...:
(http://imageshack.us/a/img803/1740/photoledna03224614.jpg)
the mechanic isn't strong but a lot of the non-mechanic cards are.
Might pick boros simply for a quick augmentation for the furry dawn deck I got a few days ago. Which do you people think look like the most broken mechanic?
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
Might pick boros simply for a quick augmentation for the furry dawn deck I got a few days ago. Which do you people think look like the most broken mechanic?
I love Evolve, it's just awesome!
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/gatecrash-spoiler.html#6692
There's more..
Quote from: Wally on January 04, 2013, 01:09:39 AM
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/gatecrash-spoiler.html#6692
There's more..
Haha yeah, I get Facebook spoilers from Magic the Gathering, TCGPlayer and StarCityGames, I love spoiler season! I like the {Mystic Snake} type counter, it's so sick!
Obzedat doesn't seem horrible. I can't think of a "guild leader" that has hit constructed. The council might? It has an EtB effect so it might hit constructed. I know I'm sliding into my Esper EDH deck.
{Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord}
{Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius}
{Isperia, Supreme Judge}
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice}
{Rakdos, Lord of Riots}
Have all been met with less then enthusiastic praise. Amongst all of them, Isperia and Niv-Mizzet spent a little while as reanimator targets. Obzedat at least impacts the board when it appears, it's EtB effect may see some play.
Niv is great in my infinite mana deck. He turns into a wincon :)
Quote from: Dudecore on January 04, 2013, 02:21:21 AM
Obzedat doesn't seem horrible. I can't think of a "guild leader" that has hit constructed. The council might? It has an EtB effect so it might hit constructed. I know I'm sliding into my Esper EDH deck.
{Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord}
{Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius}
{Isperia, Supreme Judge}
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice}
{Rakdos, Lord of Riots}
Have all been met with less then enthusiastic praise. Amongst all of them, Isperia and Niv-Mizzet spent a little while as reanimator targets. Obzedat at least impacts the board when it appears, it's EtB effect may see some play.
Huh? Dude Trostani got huge for a while there, she hit like $25
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 04, 2013, 03:26:59 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 04, 2013, 02:21:21 AM
Obzedat doesn't seem horrible. I can't think of a "guild leader" that has hit constructed. The council might? It has an EtB effect so it might hit constructed. I know I'm sliding into my Esper EDH deck.
{Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord}
{Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius}
{Isperia, Supreme Judge}
{Trostani, Selesnya's Voice}
{Rakdos, Lord of Riots}
Have all been met with less then enthusiastic praise. Amongst all of them, Isperia and Niv-Mizzet spent a little while as reanimator targets. Obzedat at least impacts the board when it appears, it's EtB effect may see some play.
Huh? Dude Trostani got huge for a while there, she hit like $25
Both Trostani and Niv have seen constructed play.
WOOOOO! They remade {Pongify}!
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 03, 2013, 09:54:40 PM
Are you guys forgetting about {Jace, Memory Adept}. 10 life loss seems a little better that "pretty bad." Not to mention {sands of delirium}.
My thoughts exactly. My personal mill record is 22 cards in 1 turn. With this guy out, that's an insta-win, not to mention {Jace's Phantasm}. Seems way overpowered, to me. And I want it.
Question: What if you cipher {Dimir keyrune}?
Does it get deciphered when it turns back into an artifact?
Quote from: Fenster on January 04, 2013, 06:47:10 AM
Question: What if you cipher {Dimir keyrune}?
Does it get deciphered when it turns back into an artifact?
It would lose the cipher, I believe it works like an enchantment.
Quote from: Kerebrus on January 03, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 03, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 03, 2013, 08:27:32 PM
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Eh... Pretty bad. Limited only, like most of the guildmages.
I want this in my Casual mill deck. Meet {Glimpse the Unthinkable}, Mr. Guildmage... 😈
{Mind sculpt} too wouldn't be bad
I love this guy for EDH. I will be making a Dimir EDH deck (I love the new guild leader as a commander), and I will kill someone by using this guy + {Traumatize}. Mark my words.
Quote from: Gorzo on January 04, 2013, 07:22:53 AM
Quote from: Kerebrus on January 03, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 03, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 03, 2013, 08:27:32 PM
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Eh... Pretty bad. Limited only, like most of the guildmages.
I want this in my Casual mill deck. Meet {Glimpse the Unthinkable}, Mr. Guildmage... 😈
{Mind sculpt} too wouldn't be bad
I love this guy for EDH. I will be making a Dimir EDH deck (I love the new guild leader as a commander), and I will kill someone by using this guy + {Traumatize}. Mark my words.
Just realized... {Mindcrank}
Does {rest in peace} counter duskmantels ability. It should cards never hit graveyard, go straight to exile.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 04, 2013, 11:04:35 AM
Does {rest in peace} counter duskmantels ability. It should cards never hit graveyard, go straight to exile.
Yes, this would counter the guildmage's ability.
Quote from: Fenster on January 04, 2013, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on January 04, 2013, 07:22:53 AM
Quote from: Kerebrus on January 03, 2013, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 03, 2013, 08:35:06 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 03, 2013, 08:27:32 PM
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138360&d=1357243181)
Eh... Pretty bad. Limited only, like most of the guildmages.
I want this in my Casual mill deck. Meet {Glimpse the Unthinkable}, Mr. Guildmage... 😈
{Mind sculpt} too wouldn't be bad
I love this guy for EDH. I will be making a Dimir EDH deck (I love the new guild leader as a commander), and I will kill someone by using this guy + {Traumatize}. Mark my words.
Just realized... {Mindcrank}
MOTHER OF GOD! That is an infinite combo right there and it's cheap as hell! I am so using this is my Nemesis Mill deck.
One tiny {Thought Scour} and GG
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 04, 2013, 06:52:19 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 04, 2013, 06:47:10 AM
Question: What if you cipher {Dimir keyrune}?
Does it get deciphered when it turns back into an artifact?
It would lose the cipher, I believe it works like an enchantment.
Cipher is kept.
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
Might pick boros simply for a quick augmentation for the furry dawn deck I got a few days ago. Which do you people think look like the most broken mechanic?
That's "fiery dawn" lol. Stupid auto- correct. Can you imagine a deck built around a bunch of dogs and cats charging at the opponent? Lmao
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 04, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 03, 2013, 10:22:54 PM
Might pick boros simply for a quick augmentation for the furry dawn deck I got a few days ago. Which do you people think look like the most broken mechanic?
That's "fiery dawn" lol. Stupid auto- correct. Can you imagine a deck built around a bunch of dogs and cats charging at the opponent? Lmao
Hey, there are quite a lot of OP cats in Magic, Ajani? Haha
{Black Cat} and {Sanctuary Cat}, charge!!!
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138393&stc=1&d=1357291596)
~Rapid Hybridization {U}
Instant
Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated. Its controller puts a 3/3 green Frog Lizard token onto the battlefield.
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/gtc/5atfjinpng_en.jpg)
Man, that crypt ghats is nuts. My brain is on overload with all the crazy uses I'm thinking of with it...
I kinda like rapid hybridization. Very similar to {Pongify}, but much, much worse because it doesn't hit non-creatures.
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 04, 2013, 04:58:38 PM
I kinda like rapid hybridization. Very similar to {Pongify}, but much, much worse because it doesn't hit non-creatures.
Pongify only hits creatures too. Are you thinking of {Beast Within}?
Extort seems awesome for limited, but it's gonna suck for constructed.
Quote from: izik99 on January 04, 2013, 08:09:20 PM
Extort seems awesome for limited, but it's gonna suck for constructed.
You MIGHT be able to make it work in most formats. You would need the RIGHT cards, and the RIGHT support cards. It would take some crazy engeneering to make it work, and might only work in limited and modern though. Possibly vintage/legacy too. Could you pay mulitipule times for the same trigger? If so, play {dark ritual} and turbo extort with mana fixing like that. Also, the one that adds {B} to your mana pool whenever you tap a swamp
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 04, 2013, 08:21:00 PM
Quote from: izik99 on January 04, 2013, 08:09:20 PM
Extort seems awesome for limited, but it's gonna suck for constructed.
You MIGHT be able to make it work in most formats. You would need the RIGHT cards, and the RIGHT support cards. It would take some crazy engeneering to make it work, and might only work in limited and modern though. Possibly vintage/legacy too. Could you pay mulitipule times for the same trigger? If so, play {dark ritual} and turbo extort with mana fixing like that. Also, the one that adds {B} to your mana pool whenever you tap a swamp
I read a DailyMTG article where the said that the Crypt Geist or whatever you are talking about was made so you could cast the extort without having to pay "extra". And no, you can't use it twice with one spell unless you have two cards with Extort.
Is anyone going to the gatecrash prerelease at evil genius comics in California, Pennsylvania???
Quote from: Testset on January 04, 2013, 09:09:26 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on January 04, 2013, 08:38:16 PM
Is anyone going to the gatecrash prerelease at evil genius comics in California, Pennsylvania???
Well which is it, man?
California or Pennsylvania?
😜
LOL
Sorry bro...already am going to the one in Rhode Island, Texas hehe
You know guys that is a real place.....
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on January 04, 2013, 09:37:05 PM
You know guys that is a real place.....
(http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/a/a3/Thats-the-joke.jpg)
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 04, 2013, 09:40:31 PM
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on January 04, 2013, 09:37:05 PM
You know guys that is a real place.....
(http://images.wikia.com/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/a/a3/Thats-the-joke.jpg)
Hahahahahahahahahahahah -_-
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 04, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
Sorry bro...already am going to the one in Rhode Island, Texas hehe
Haha I'll be in Providence, Rhode Island
Lucky...that is my birthtown. I have always loved Rhode Island. And the sea. Now I live in Illinois. Where nothing happens but odd weather...
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 04, 2013, 11:29:01 PM
Lucky...that is my birthtown. I have always loved Rhode Island. And the sea. Now I live in Illinois. Where nothing happens but odd weather...
Dunno that sorta sounds like RI
I guess the grass is always greener...
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 05, 2013, 01:54:11 AM
I guess the grass is always greener...
Unless you go to El Paso where they have no grass!
Everyone seems to be dissing on orzhov?
I mean if you get 3 extorts out, some mana shades and pack a liliana of dark realms or two.
Add a bunch of removal. O-rings, ultimate priceing. Then just keep extorting!
You could add {Exquisite blood} for late game power. Add {R} for more removal {Dreadbore} and pop a {Havoc festival} when you're ahead on health!
Quote from: Fenster on January 05, 2013, 05:38:55 AM
Everyone seems to be dissing on orzhov?
I mean if you get 3 extorts out, some mana shades and pack a liliana of dark realms or two.
Add a bunch of removal. O-rings, ultimate priceing. Then just keep extorting!
You could add {Exquisite blood} for late game power. Add {R} for more removal {Dreadbore} and pop a {Havoc festival} when you're ahead on health!
I'm with you, I've been advocating splashing red to extort with, cheap removal and life gain.
Orzhov is gonna be nasty powerful in limited I think. In constructed, I think people are hating on it because its ability (extort) requires you to use more mana / leave less mana open / tap out, which is a big part of the mental battle aspect of the game sometimes.
That's my train of thought anyway. I like the keyword though, but then again, I'm a doofus.
Great mechanic for Orzhov though.
Well think back how many times dont you just sit there with untapped lands doing nothing?
If you go rbw add Sorin loi and Helix angel ^^
Im excited about Cryp Ghast. Paired up with {mindshrieker}, it would be pretty awesome.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 05, 2013, 02:23:25 PM
Im excited about Cryp Ghast. Paired up with {mindshrieker}, it would be pretty awesome.
A spirit...bird? Me want to find
WHERE ARE TEH SPOILERZ!!! Me hungry.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 06, 2013, 12:33:22 AM
WHERE ARE TEH SPOILERZ!!! Me hungry.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/gatecrash-spoiler.html
Here you go
Nooo me want new ones!!!
Weekend sadly.
I'm just waiting for then to tell us {lightning helix} is back. That is one of my favorite all time cards
Quote from: Tidds123 on January 06, 2013, 09:11:59 AM
I'm just waiting for then to tell us {lightning helix} is back. That is one of my favorite all time cards
It is!
Its just... In angel form... Uhm... ._.
Quote from: Fenster on January 06, 2013, 11:07:41 AM
Quote from: Tidds123 on January 06, 2013, 09:11:59 AM
I'm just waiting for then to tell us {lightning helix} is back. That is one of my favorite all time cards
It is!
Its just... In angel form... Uhm... ._.
wait what angel helix thing jas been spoiled?!
does anyone else thing skynight legionarre is amazing?
Since this got stickied. And we are talking about the real spoilers, and since I'm the OP, is there a way for me to change the title of the thread, so I can remove the question mark.
What you guys think about the Dimir? I think this kind of play (Put your cards in the graveyard so oh my aberration is 34/34 and Lazav is your Gisela and I Make unblockable the aberration and you die, but don't sorry, you were going to lose anyways because you don't have cards on your library
(Sorry, I continue the last post) is going to be played. And What do you think about Domri? Is he competitive?
Domri is the card advantage engine creature decks need. He is very competitive.
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 03, 2013, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 03, 2013, 03:00:40 PM
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~High Priest of Penance WB
Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever ~ is dealt damage, you may destroy target nonland permanent.
I got really excited about this dude, then I saw that he had to take damage. He's pretty bad. Is it me or have most of the rares so far seemed like jank?
Edit: updated with english oracle text.
How are you mad with this, it's {Black Cat} on crack and it's when it takes damage, period. Looks mean on the board, you smack it with something and blow up whatever. Awesome card, mix it with red and beef {Olivia Voldaren} and blow up a {Jace, Architect of Thought}, I'm happy.
I think this guy is amazing. Just scavenge something to him and ping him with your {staff of nin} or whatever. :) I like it
Everyone thinks today there will be an enchantment that gives all instants or sorceries cipher, or an instant that gives spells on the stack cipher. The instant is believable, except a lot of players (especially casual) don't even know what the stack is, so it would probably be more like "Name an instant or sorcery card. Until end of turn, all spells cast with that name have Cipher". The enchantment, on the other hand, would be too broken to even be mythic. Sure, at first glance it seems just under the bar of not being printed, and in Standard it would be okay. But as for everything else, well, you're all forgetting one little mechanic. Something called Cascade. Yeah. Now do you think something with that much build-around brokenness would be printed? It may not seem like it a lot of times, but Wizards actually does know what it's doing. So this was just a reality check for the people that keep begging for that enchant.
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138505&stc=1&d=1357526080)
I love this card in limited but would never play him in constructed. He's... well... he's ok.
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/gtc/k9uaahs7dv_en.jpg)
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/gtc/iu0xzauwx9_en.jpg)
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/gtc/r9yqn7qxnt_en.jpg)
Im curious to see what each guild's uncounterable spells will be (if they even get any.) Anyone else?
LUV IT. :) a solid mill finisher.
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 07, 2013, 12:07:53 AM
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Will trade for this card.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 07, 2013, 12:10:34 AM
Im curious to see what each guild's uncounterable spells will be (if they even get any.) Anyone else?
Same here. Also charms.
It's been confirmed uncounterabeles won't return this block, stolen identity is sick, although pricey. Mind grind is just..yeah, it's great
I'll have to playtest to see if {Increasing Confusion} is better than mindgrind. I might go 1 of each...
Quote from: Vyse on January 07, 2013, 12:16:39 AM
It's been confirmed uncounterabeles won't return this block, stolen identity is sick, although pricey. Mind grind is just..yeah, it's great
That's bunk!! I think the uncounterables are awesome.
I LOVE the art on Stolen Identity.
And Mind Grind? Yeah, I'm drooling a little bit.
Quote from: Testset on January 07, 2013, 01:12:23 AM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on January 07, 2013, 12:06:30 AM
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Oh wow.
Put that on a trampler.
Bant Populate.
Use it on an unblockable, I prefer {Invisible Stalker} and copy anything, even better if you hit an {Armada Wurm}
Would trade mind grind for {Mind Funeral}
Have you seen the RG "Search 3 creature cards. If they are different, take one at random". I don't understand what you have to do if they aren't different. ¿The spell is useless?
Boros is really getting shafted this time around. I'm very upset. I understand that they and Golgari were awesome the first time around, but there's no reason for them to nerf them like this! So far the Boros cards have been mediocre limited cards with a few exceptions. Nothing constructed playable yet. Besides {Sacred Foundry}.
That spell is very good. Instant speed tutor for creatures 2 drop...just what midrange needs lol.
Basically what you do is you get to search for 3 creatures that all have different names (technically you don't have to, but it only works if you do). You reveal them. Then they are turned facedown and randomized. You pick one at random and put it into your hand. Rest go...somewhere. I think it's bottom of library lol
But yeah seems really good. Search for thrag, thundermaw, and sigarda = win? Or something like that.
I'll include 3 or 4 copies in my GR Wolves deck. It seems very good, and only 2 manas!
I think boros is pretty good. It isn't Dimir (god, dimir is awesome) but i think it's playable in constructed. You have already very good cards (See Glory of War, Lighting Helix, etc...), and some of the new cards are good (the angelified Lighting Helix, the one that gives you Vigilance, Lifelink or First Strike, the one mana with battaillion 3/3...). It sees good for me.
The other two get shuffled back in, so you get a shuffle on top of a creature!
Quote from: Xaol on January 07, 2013, 06:32:40 AM
Boros is really getting shafted this time around. I'm very upset. I understand that they and Golgari were awesome the first time around, but there's no reason for them to nerf them like this! So far the Boros cards have been mediocre limited cards with a few exceptions. Nothing constructed playable yet. Besides {Sacred Foundry}.
I agree completely, I'm getting pretty annoyed at the poor excuses for Boros cards
DIMIR CHARM SPOILED!!!! LOVE IT!!! :D
Counter target sorcery spell
Or Destroy a creature with power 2 or less
Or Look at the top 3 cards of target opponent's graveyard (I think it is opponent). Put 2 into his or her graveyard and the remaining one on top of that player's library.
The 3 isn't Like that. Look the top 3 cards of target player library. Put one on the top and 2 in the graveyard.
It's much better
Just preordered my Mind Grind from star city for $3 a piece. Got 8, just cause you never know.
Signal the Clans is going straight into my reanimator deck. Yessss.
Quote from: DemonicWolf on January 07, 2013, 09:35:26 AM
The 3 isn't Like that. Look the top 3 cards of target player library. Put one on the top and 2 in the graveyard.
It's much better
Oh oops I meant to say library...so excited I mixed it up. Thanks for correcting :)
Quote from: Testset on January 07, 2013, 12:42:02 PM
Seems like cipher will be sorcery-only, doesn't it?
Makes sense, otherwise you could nail your opponent after he declares no blockers.
Grixis for {Hypersonic Dragon}.
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
Just preordered my Mind Grind from star city for $3 a piece. Got 8, just cause you never know.
silly star city, i went to order 4 of them, but i took to long in the check out process, (cause ive never ordered there before) so my 4 went down to 1, because thats all they had left..
im a sad now.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 12:48:44 PM
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
Just preordered my Mind Grind from star city for $3 a piece. Got 8, just cause you never know.
silly star city, i went to order 4 of them, but i took to long in the check out process, (cause ive never ordered there before) so my 4 went down to 1, because thats all they had left..
im a sad now.
:( I'll sell you four of mine for $15 each. :D
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138521&d=1357536098
I like this one a lot.
Quote from: smokin terry on January 07, 2013, 01:02:27 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138521&d=1357536098
I like this one a lot.
Same!!!
Quote from: Testset on January 07, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Quote from: smokin terry on January 07, 2013, 01:02:27 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138521&d=1357536098
I like this one a lot.
God, I want one already...
Very tempted try to get foils. This made me decide to play BUG once gatecrash comes in.
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 12:48:44 PM
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
Just preordered my Mind Grind from star city for $3 a piece. Got 8, just cause you never know.
silly star city, i went to order 4 of them, but i took to long in the check out process, (cause ive never ordered there before) so my 4 went down to 1, because thats all they had left..
im a sad now.
:( I'll sell you four of mine for $15 each. :D
something tells me the price on these will go up to that
Quote from: Testset on January 07, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
{Thoughtflare} vs. {Urban Evolution}:
Opinions?
I think they are diferennt. Urban evolution makes you accelerate your Lands, but of it's only for drawing I prefere Thoughflare. If i had to choose, Urban Evolution seems better
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 01:08:53 PM
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 12:48:44 PM
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
Just preordered my Mind Grind from star city for $3 a piece. Got 8, just cause you never know.
silly star city, i went to order 4 of them, but i took to long in the check out process, (cause ive never ordered there before) so my 4 went down to 1, because thats all they had left..
im a sad now.
:( I'll sell you four of mine for $15 each. :D
something tells me the price on these will go up to that
Yeah, I'm thinking so, too.
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 01:16:06 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 01:08:53 PM
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 12:58:59 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 12:48:44 PM
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 11:23:05 AM
Just preordered my Mind Grind from star city for $3 a piece. Got 8, just cause you never know.
silly star city, i went to order 4 of them, but i took to long in the check out process, (cause ive never ordered there before) so my 4 went down to 1, because thats all they had left..
im a sad now.
:( I'll sell you four of mine for $15 each. :D
something tells me the price on these will go up to that
Yeah, I'm thinking so, too.
Yes, for sure. It's a great card, with the correct amount of manas you will mill your Oponent faster than ever!
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Signal the Clans
Instant
Search your library for three creature cards and reveal them. If you searched for three cards with different names, choose one at random at put it into your hand. Shuffle the rest into your library.
Have they said what the promo cards for each guild are?
Yeah
Dimir is that mill abberation. Simic is fluxmage. Forgot therest.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
Have they said what the promo cards for each guild are?
Check this link (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1138).
So was it confirmed no new Uncounterables?
Heard there wasn't going to be but I don't know why the new set of guild wouldn't and the old ones would.
Quote from: Monrodesign on January 07, 2013, 05:49:08 PM
So was it confirmed no new Uncounterables?
Heard there wasn't going to be but I don't know why the new set of guild wouldn't and the old ones would.
Confirmed. (http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/214)
Maybe they are saving the uncounterables for these guilds for Dragons maze. They gotta have some goodies for the last set.
Quote from: prayos on January 07, 2013, 05:11:07 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 07, 2013, 05:05:28 PM
Have they said what the promo cards for each guild are?
Check this link (http://www.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1138).
Thank you. To bad it makes my choices harder
Not me. I'm going Dimir at one, and Simic at another.
I think dimir mill will be wicked in sealed.
Vizkopa Confessor 3 wb
Uncommon human cleric
Extort
When ~ enters the battlefield pay any amount of life. Target opponent revels that many cards from his or her hand. You choose one of them and exile it. 1/3
Undercity plague 4BB
Sorcery
Target player losses 1 life, discards a card, and sacs a permenant. Cipher
Signal the Clans is downright insane. I'm getting multiple playsets of that thing.
So check it...
Turn 2 you get a dude, and you can grab 3 beneficial guys and no matter what get 1 of them.
You can play frekin' head games with this card! Grab 3 bombs. Reveal to opponent my bombs, get 1 of them. Have them guessing for their entire next turn what I grabbed and completely throw them off their game. "Did he get a Thragtusk? Damn, should I play around a Thraggy drop? Or did he get a Silverheart, well he might have gotten that Huntaster also... .poo. what do I drop now?" It instills fear while fetching at the same time. ALSO it gives you a shuffle, so you can still topdeck one of the others (kinda unlikely).
Lategame topdeck Signal? Thanks for that, you just drew your finisher. Go grab 3 finishers, no matter what get one... GAH! THIS CARD IS TOO GOOD!!!!
No matter when you draw it, it is beneficial! All of you naysayers need to read this, because you're obviously not thinking clearly.
I am a huge advocate for play of this card. It WILL see constructed play. Mark my words. This card is so good. Wait 'til the circuit catches on...
EDIT: Oh yeah lol, one more thing, uhm, it's an instant. Did some one say hold back mana for Searing Spear? Oh no? No guys? Cool, let's go grab a bomb... XDXDXDXD
****!!! I am grabbing as many of these as I can at the Prerelease! Domri's got a best friend =P I can't wait to see the rest of teh set and brew up a sick Jund Aggro, screw all this crap now, nobody will be ready for my tech.
Haha and then add this card into the mix? (Tho possibly suited better for an agro boros build)
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138578&d=1357624815
Quote from: Wally on January 08, 2013, 04:46:51 AM
Haha and then add this card into the mix? (Tho possibly suited better for an agro boros build)
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138578&d=1357624815
It's like a backwards {Fangren Firstborn}, or a big {Knotvine Paladin}. A minimum 4/4 swinger. Ahh and if I pull it with my Simic stuff I can run it without running red. Although I'm most likely running RUG, mmhmm, good share sir, I like this card a lot.
Holy nutballs, Batman, Rubblebelt Raiders are good.
is anyone else really hoping for a one drop enchantment with Extort?
Quote from: izik99 on January 08, 2013, 07:06:13 AM
is anyone else really hoping for a one drop enchantment with Extort?
I hope I can get one in the prerelease , if so...
Quote from: izik99 on January 08, 2013, 07:06:13 AM
is anyone else really hoping for a one drop enchantment with Extort?
I doubt it. A 1-drop creature sure, but an enchantment would likely be a 2 or 3 drop.
Will dragons maze bring new mechanics?
Id be happy if they didnt!
They just add more spells for all guilds and maybe "Final forms" of guild leaders ;D
Niv-Mizzet, Plainswalker
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 08, 2013, 11:51:17 AM
Will dragons maze bring new mechanics?
Most likely, but there won't be one per guild. Unless they're brave.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 08, 2013, 01:19:29 PM
Niv-Mizzet, Plainswalker
Aren't all creatures Plainswalkers, in a sense?
Maybe they will do cross mechanics. Meaning guild mechanics can combo.
For example, a keyword like "fusion" could be used when you activate two mechanics with certain matching colors.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on January 08, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
Maybe they will do cross mechanics. Meaning guild mechanics can combo.
For example, a keyword like "fusion" could be used when you activate two mechanics with certain matching colors.
I din't think Dragon's Maze will have any new mechs, we'll just get extremely powerful cards and a huge world event is going to happen on Rav
I suspect Dragon's Maze will have a mesh off all 10 mechanics. For example, you might see a creature with both unleash and bloodrush, or evolve and detain.
But what I'm truly hoping for is full art Ravnica lands.
Quote from: Potticus on January 08, 2013, 02:36:34 PM
The sinal the clans but where it says if you chose 3 different cards it's random means if you pulled 3 thragtusk out you take one and go. But if you have any different cards you have to randomize.
what about 2 of the same, and one different. Sorry, just had to be an @$$. It's still randomized
(http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138581&d=1357642100)
~Goblin Scrapper
Creature - Goblin Berserker
Creatures you control have haste and attack each combat phase if able.
2/2
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Quote from: Potticus on January 08, 2013, 02:36:34 PM
The sinal the clans but where it says if you chose 3 different cards it's random means if you pulled 3 thragtusk out you take one and go. But if you have any different cards you have to randomize.
You choose 3 creature cards with different names, then choose one of those three at random. So for example if you choose {Borborygmos Enraged}, {Thragtusk}, and {Rubblebelt Raiders}. You then pick one at random (say you assign numbers to a dice roll) and let's say you get the thragtusk. Thragtusk would go to your hand and the other two get shuffled back into your library.
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 08, 2013, 02:39:27 PM
Quote from: Potticus on January 08, 2013, 02:36:34 PM
The sinal the clans but where it says if you chose 3 different cards it's random means if you pulled 3 thragtusk out you take one and go. But if you have any different cards you have to randomize.
what about 2 of the same, and one different. Sorry, just had to be an @$$. It's still randomized
Nope, the random grab clause clearly states that ALL 3 creatures must have different names, otherwise you're paying 2 to shuffle your deck
I cannot wait to make an awesome grixis deck with these sweet new cards coming I'm gonna rock enter the infinite with {thought scour} and {laboratory maniac}
Simic guild leader is beast, as long as you have say a 1/3 you're drawing 4, getting a 4/4 for 6. Not too shabby. And with thragtusk...yum
Biomass Mutation with {Champion of Lambholt} instant kill.
Biomass mutation could work really well if you just used it for X = 1 so then if a 2/1 or higher entered the battlefield every creature you control has a +1/+1
Creatures you control become X/X until end of turn
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 09, 2013, 07:35:59 AM
Creatures you control become X/X until end of turn
To clarify on what he meant, I think he was leaning towards using the new evolve mechanic. :)
Oh, then I sincerely apologize and applaud the notion.
Wouldn't it just be better though to pump all yor evolve creatures up? I mean they would keep their counters after you pump them with the spell, so they would be even stronger. That card is a really nice game ender I think
What do you think about the doctor?
Finally a truly useful card for Boros and stops {Sphinx's Revelation} and {Bonfire of the Damned} from going off as easily.
What are cards in {G} or {U} that temporarily weaken your own creatures?
So about that Frontline Medic (The Doctor)...
Anyone hear that? That's the sound of me crapping myself.
Quote from: Wally on January 09, 2013, 07:41:16 AM
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 09, 2013, 07:35:59 AM
Creatures you control become X/X until end of turn
ya srry this is what i meant i didnt explain myself
To clarify on what he meant, I think he was leaning towards using the new evolve mechanic. :)
{Dimir Charm} is awesome! Can't wait for Gatecrash just for that 1 card!!!
I don't get the medics counter ability, what is the x value?
Quote from: Vyse on January 09, 2013, 05:36:32 PM
I don't get the medics counter ability, what is the x value?
It's not a value. It's literally any spell with {X} in it. I.E. {street spasm}, {bonfire of the damned}, {Sphinx's revelation}.
I love the Dimir charm!
Ahhh thanks for clearing that up, goodnight {Sphinx's Revelation}
Quote from: Vyse on January 09, 2013, 05:47:48 PM
Ahhh thanks for clearing that up, goodnight {Sphinx's Revelation}
And in the meantime while I wait to screw over that Sphinx's Revalation, I'll just beating my opponent in the face with this 3/3 for 3 mana that makes my entire attacking force indestructible.
So. Good.
Yeah it's pretty bawse. Im most excited for that and {crypt ghast}.
"Wahhh Boros isn't getting anything goood" it was like kids crying during Christmas about not getting what they want for Christmas with a bunch of presents still under the tree lol.
Holy <pg-9> that medic.
{Frontline Medic} is NUTS. But I also love {Biomass Mutation} so much!
Damn, {Frontline Medic} is brutal. Holy crap dude, he's so awkward but he's really powerful.
I gotta agree with Evan Erwin on the medic. It is weird as hell, but really pretty cool.
I still don't get Cipher... I mean, it's so overpowered! Can't you copy the cipher ability, therefore getting an exponential number of awesome spells just by using an unblockable?! I mean if that's not OP I don't know what is.
Quote from: Testset on January 09, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: G33kL0rd on January 09, 2013, 09:10:18 PM
I still don't get Cipher... I mean, it's so overpowered! Can't you copy the cipher ability, therefore getting an exponential number of awesome spells just by using an unblockable?! I mean if that's not OP I don't know what is.
No. Cipher is a one-shot effect from casting the spell. You can only do it once.
It's basically giving your creature another effect. Like...unlocking some hidden ability that you have to do a side quest to get. Or equivalent to that
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 09, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 09, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: G33kL0rd on January 09, 2013, 09:10:18 PM
I still don't get Cipher... I mean, it's so overpowered! Can't you copy the cipher ability, therefore getting an exponential number of awesome spells just by using an unblockable?! I mean if that's not OP I don't know what is.
No. Cipher is a one-shot effect from casting the spell. You can only do it once.
It's basically giving your creature another effect. Like...unlocking some hidden ability that you have to do a side quest to get. Or equivalent to that
^^^ Beautifully explained XD
One of the latest spoilers is leyline phantom, foreshadowing possible return of leylines?
That would be AWESOME lol
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 10, 2013, 02:07:10 AM
That would be AWESOME lol
{Leyline of the Void} in Standard. Hmm....
I really don't get the people saying boros is not getting nothing good.
Aurelia is good, the skirmisher is a bit expensive in mana, but its good. The goldemane is also good. The medic is SO <PG-9> GOOD. The boros elite Could see play.
And they aldready have awesome cards (Lighting helix, Gisela, glory of war is pretty good also...).
Watch the language please -DC
Have you seen the gigant bug? It Seems awesome with populate
Quote from: DemonicWolf on January 10, 2013, 09:00:01 AM
I really don't get the people saying boros is not getting nothing good.
Aurelia is good, the skirmisher is a bit expensive in mana, but its good. The goldemane is also good. The medic is SO <PG-9> GOOD. The boros elite Could see play.
And they aldready have awesome cards (Lighting helix, Gisela, glory of war is pretty good also...).
Watch the language please -DC
We have only seen the Boros mechanic three times, I mean that's not enough to say its really good, most of those cards won't see constructed play, maybe Aurelia, maybe Firemane avenger, probably the medic, but so far there haven't been enough, orzhov, simic and Gruul have quite a few cards with their mechanics so far and they all look pretty good, especially simic.
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 09, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 09, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: G33kL0rd on January 09, 2013, 09:10:18 PM
I still don't get Cipher... I mean, it's so overpowered! Can't you copy the cipher ability, therefore getting an exponential number of awesome spells just by using an unblockable?! I mean if that's not OP I don't know what is.
No. Cipher is a one-shot effect from casting the spell. You can only do it once.
It's basically giving your creature another effect. Like...unlocking some hidden ability that you have to do a side quest to get. Or equivalent to that
Oh... But it doesn't say not to copy the Cipher part, like the Epic cycle did, that was what confused me...
Quote from: Kerebrus on January 10, 2013, 12:48:04 PM
Quote from: DemonicWolf on January 10, 2013, 09:00:01 AM
I really don't get the people saying boros is not getting nothing good.
Aurelia is good, the skirmisher is a bit expensive in mana, but its good. The goldemane is also good. The medic is SO <PG-9> GOOD. The boros elite Could see play.
And they aldready have awesome cards (Lighting helix, Gisela, glory of war is pretty good also...).
Watch the language please -DC
We have only seen the Boros mechanic three times, I mean that's not enough to say its really good, most of those cards won't see constructed play, maybe Aurelia, maybe Firemane avenger, probably the medic, but so far there haven't been enough, orzhov, simic and Gruul have quite a few cards with their mechanics so far and they all look pretty good, especially simic.
Aurelia is amazing. She WILL see play, she's too powerful not to. And the Medic? Oooh, oh baby. Yeah. Those are constructed cards if I've ever seen 'em. Unless you're talking Limited, then Simic wins so far by a long shot. Way too many common/uncommon Evolve dudes, and {Pongify}? Come on dude. Not even fair lol
I love the boros charm, its the way to counter {Abrupt Decay} and iv always really liked double strike anyways.
Ooh, now I want cipher and double strike.
I think Boros chram just gave it to you.
It's broken
How?
Link to Boros charm?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138698&stc=1&d=1357884481
Quote from: Wally on January 11, 2013, 03:06:48 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138698&stc=1&d=1357884481
Damn. This is one of the most aggressive cards I've ever seen. All three of its effects are agressive. Or at least can be used that way. I'm definitely getting three or four for my red white human deck
Only problem is the 4 damage is player only.
That's not exactly a bad thing. Four direct damage for two CMC isn't that bad.
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 11, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
Only problem is the 4 damage is player only.
Next best thing is searing spear. And it only does 3 damage.
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 11, 2013, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 11, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
Only problem is the 4 damage is player only.
Next best thing is searing spear. And it only does 3 damage.
Searing spear has more variance though. That's the one thing I hate about it. Low variance. I like high variance effects
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2013, 05:25:04 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 11, 2013, 05:13:06 PM
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 11, 2013, 05:09:05 PM
Only problem is the 4 damage is player only.
Next best thing is searing spear. And it only does 3 damage.
Searing spear has more variance though. That's the one thing I hate about it. Low variance. I like high variance effects
So you're telling me people sometimes have to choose between quality and quantity? Interesting.
And boros charm has 3 modes so there's your variance.
Yeah, I don't really get the {searing spear} has more variance claim. The charm has more applications than the spear.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 11, 2013, 06:43:10 PM
Yeah, I don't really get the {searing spear} has more variance claim. The charm has more applications than the spear.
I was talking about the damage part. I would have liked it better if there was some variance
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Quote from: Wally on January 11, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Quote from: Maximo on January 11, 2013, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: Wally on January 11, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Looks ohrzovy
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Maximo on January 11, 2013, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: Wally on January 11, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Looks ohrzovy
Naahhh looks more like boros but I like the first one
Quote from: All-Mana Mania on January 11, 2013, 09:44:49 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Maximo on January 11, 2013, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: Wally on January 11, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Looks ohrzovy
Naahhh looks more like boros but I like the first one
By mark winters? Or chase stone?
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Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Looks ohrzovy
Naahhh looks more like boros but I like the first one
What art are you looking at? The 4th to last is pure Orzhov, it's even dark colored, and has spirit-esque elements.
I love the one with the chick screaming and running with what looks to be active grenades. Maybe Boros is getting a suicide bomber? lol
The 2nd to last looks like a {Damnation} sphere disintegrating everything, so sick!
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Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Looks ohrzovy
Naahhh looks more like boros but I like the first one
What art are you looking at? The 4th to last is pure Orzhov, it's even dark colored, and has spirit-esque elements.
I love the one with the chick screaming and running with what looks to be active grenades. Maybe Boros is getting a suicide bomber? lol
That 4th to last is more than likely Dimir. The chick looks like she's sucking the thoughts from his brain.
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Quote from: Wally on January 11, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Looks ohrzovy
Naahhh looks more like boros but I like the first one
What art are you looking at? The 4th to last is pure Orzhov, it's even dark colored, and has spirit-esque elements.
I love the one with the chick screaming and running with what looks to be active grenades. Maybe Boros is getting a suicide bomber? lol
That 4th to last is more than likely Dimir. The chick looks like she's sucking the thoughts from his brain.
I'm pretty sure the chick is orzhov scion but I can't remember her name
The first is also probably Dimir. I'm just curious about the Monsters, Inc. picture from David Palumbo...
2nd from first looks like an "exile target creature" effect.
6th from first looks much like {Thragtusk} in terms of what is happening. Interesting...
8th from first looks like a "{Turn to Frog}" effect. This one kind of made me laugh haha
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Quote from: Birdbrain on January 11, 2013, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Maximo on January 11, 2013, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: Wally on January 11, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1145
Uh. I don't know what the fourth to last card is but ill probably like it.
Looks ohrzovy
Naahhh looks more like boros but I like the first one
What art are you looking at? The 4th to last is pure Orzhov, it's even dark colored, and has spirit-esque elements.
I love the one with the chick screaming and running with what looks to be active grenades. Maybe Boros is getting a suicide bomber? lol
That 4th to last is more than likely Dimir. The chick looks like she's sucking the thoughts from his brain.
I'm pretty sure the chick is orzhov scion but I can't remember her name
Teysa?
The 10th one has to be simic right? I mean, what other guild has copious amounts of science? Lol I hope the 8th one is a 0/1 with evolve 5 (ik that evolve x is not a thing) or something else that makes it not so cute.
Quote from: Qpwner on January 12, 2013, 01:34:03 PM
The 10th one has to be simic right? I mean, what other guild has copious amounts of science? Lol I hope the 8th one is a 0/1 with evolve 5 (ik that evolve x is not a thing) or something else that makes it not so cute.
Izzet is very sciency. Although its not in gatecrash. So, it must be simic
Its Izzet...
Not all cards are guild specific althoug art and flavoryext suggests it. For example {Explosive Impact}, {Destroy The Evidence} and {Ultimate price}. Boros, Dimir and Orzhov in Rtr.
Quote from: Fenster on January 12, 2013, 09:16:35 PM
Its Izzet...
Not all cards are guild specific althoug art and flavoryext suggests it. For example {Explosive Impact}, {Destroy The Evidence} and {Ultimate price}. Boros, Dimir and Orzhov in Rtr.
I noticed those two, espicially {Ultimate Price}.
New card just spoiled live from GP Atlantic city!
I don't like it personally but its
(Insert name here)
3w/r
Enchantment
At the begining of your upkeep you put a 1/1 soldier dude on to the battlefield with haste for each whatever counters you have on (insert name here) and put a counter on the (insert name here)
Okay sorry about the card lol not spoiled online yet so had to use what I rememberd about it which was what it did and its cost lol..
Hope you guys can understand what the card says i know it was not written in the best way but oh well as for the card itself i do not like it at all the only way i see it beinga any good is if you can lay it down turn 5 stay alive turn 6 and make it to turn 9 and start getting the 4 1/1 and just overwelm them but the 1/1 don't even fly so you can't chump block resto angel thundermaw and the fliers coming out in gate crash..
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 12, 2013, 11:26:31 PM
New card just spoiled live from GP Atlantic city!
I don't like it personally but its
(Insert name here)
3w/r
Enchantment
At the begining of your upkeep you put a 1/1 soldier dude on to the battlefield with haste for each whatever counters you have on (insert name here) and put a counter on the (insert name here)
Okay sorry about the card lol not spoiled online yet so had to use what I rememberd about it which was what it did and its cost lol..
Hope you guys can understand what the card says i know it was not written in the best way but oh well as for the card itself i do not like it at all the only way i see it beinga any good is if you can lay it down turn 5 stay alive turn 6 and make it to turn 9 and start getting the 4 1/1 and just overwelm them but the 1/1 don't even fly so you can't chump block resto angel thundermaw and the fliers coming out in gate crash..
Sounds good if the CMC is 4. I am confused though. Is it {3}{R}{W}, or is it {3}{R}/{W} (hybrid mana)?
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138740&d=1358047052
For whatever reason, that seems like a Boros {Martial Law} to me
Sorry coffee did not mean to put the / in there it is a ur... Was tired when I typed that :)
It's fine haha I get tired like that a lot.
Has anyone seen this yet? http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138753&d=1358140120, it's like they're trying to make a mini {Griselbrand}. I'm saying this based on everything except power and toughness.
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 14, 2013, 12:41:12 AM
Has anyone seen this yet? http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138753&d=1358140120, it's like they're trying to make a mini {Griselbrand}. I'm saying this based on everything except power and toughness.
Pretty sweet timmy card!
I freaking love that demon! {Heartless summoning} how i have missed you.
How about something to replace {Griselbrand} in EDH?
Wow that looks pretty cool. Fragile, but really fun looking.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138750&d=1358139701
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138749&d=1358139701
Here's the other two, Orzhov just became playable in my eyes!
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 14, 2013, 01:35:38 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138750&d=1358139701
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138749&d=1358139701
Here's the other two, Orzhov just became playable in my eyes!
I love both of them!
Links don't work for me "/
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http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138750&d=1358139701
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138749&d=1358139701
Here's the other two, Orzhov just became playable in my eyes!
I love both of them!
Ooze flux is great because you can in response to a murder on {Prime Speaker Zegana} and populate that if you feel like it. You don't even have to remove them all from one creature, if you know your creatures won't evolve at the next creature you play, you can remove counters so you know they will.
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http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138750&d=1358139701
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138749&d=1358139701
Here's the other two, Orzhov just became playable in my eyes!
I love both of them!
Ooze flux is great because you can in response to a murder on {Prime Speaker Zegana} and populate that if you feel like it. You don't even have to remove them all from one creature, if you know your creatures won't evolve at the next creature you play, you can remove counters so you know they will.
If you set up the evolve properly you can almost use it like a Devour-esque effect. If you have 3 Evolve guys that are each either 3 on the front end or back end, you can pul a counter off of each and make 3/3's for 2 mana, and it won't touch your guys, they'll just evolve back. You an even use this to graft like oldschool Simic with the right guys, it's pretty crazy actually. I'm very interested in seeing it played. I want to make so many decks once this set hits, but damn is it expensive!
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 14, 2013, 01:35:38 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138750&d=1358139701
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138749&d=1358139701
Here's the other two, Orzhov just became playable in my eyes!
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG LOVE THAT ORZHOV ENCHANTMENT.
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http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138750&d=1358139701
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138749&d=1358139701
Here's the other two, Orzhov just became playable in my eyes!
OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG LOVE THAT ORZHOV ENCHANTMENT.
{blind obedience} iss sooo going in my esper midrange!!! Fu to Rdw and makes my Tamio so much better <3 this set just keeps getting better
Fu thundermaw haha
Quote from: Gorzo on January 08, 2013, 08:05:29 AM
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is anyone else really hoping for a one drop enchantment with Extort?
I doubt it. A 1-drop creature sure, but an enchantment would likely be a 2 or 3 drop.
You got your wish, but is way more wicked for a 2 drop.
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 14, 2013, 12:53:11 AM
How about something to replace {Griselbrand} in EDH?
Hear hear
The símic ooze is great! Let's say you have 3 2/2 creatures with evolve on the battlefield. The 3 of them have a 1/1 counter. You use the ooze, and take all the counters. You just invoked the ooze, but the counters are still here, because the ooze (3/3) enteres the battlefield.
Well, said Like this it doesn't seems very powerfull, but you Get the idea...
And the orzhov is nuts
Quote from: DemonicWolf on January 14, 2013, 12:31:55 PM
The símic ooze is great! Let's say you have 3 2/2 creatures with evolve on the battlefield. The 3 of them have a 1/1 counter. You use the ooze, and take all the counters. You just invoked the ooze, but the counters are still here, because the ooze (3/3) enteres the battlefield.
Well, said Like this it doesn't seems very powerfull, but you Get the idea...
And the orzhov is nuts
Here, to help out, the ooze comes out the evolve again and you get multiple effects, like say draw power for green?
Now undying creatures never have to die!
2 drop love <3
Simic Charm {G}{U}
Instant
Choose one - Target creature gets +3/+3 until end of turn; permanents you control gain hexproof until end of turn; or return target creature to its owner's hand.
"We measure our progress in beats of the heart."
-Prime Speaker Zegana
Illus. Zoltan Boros #195/249
~Army Loyalist {R}
Creature - Goblin Soldier
Haste
Battalion - Whenever ~ and at least two other creatures attack, creatures you control gain first strike and trample until end of turn and can't be blocked by tokens this turn.
Illus. Eric Deschamps 1/1
~Ogre Slum Lord {3}{B}{B}
Creature - Ogre Rogue
Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, put a 1/1 black Rat creature token onto the battlefield.
Rats you control have deathtouch.
Illus. Trevor Claxton #74/249 3/3
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/gatecrash-spoiler.html#6742
Besides the charms and dual lands, I am not impressed with this set AT ALL. Return to Ravnica just seems so much cooler. {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Skullcrack} are the only other winners it seems.
That army loyalist looks great tho
That white enchantment that makes creatures and artifacts enter tapped is pretty sweet too. Slotting that right into my EDH deck.
I think one of the best ones so far is {Signal the Clans}. The ability for midrange to tutor a creature for 2 mana at instant speed is very good. Say you get a thrag, a thundermaw, and a resto angel. You really can't complain no matter what you get. Every creature card in naya/jund midrange is value city!
Quote from: Dudecore on January 14, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
Besides the charms and dual lands, I am not impressed with this set AT ALL. Return to Ravnica just seems so much cooler. {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Skullcrack} are the only other winners it seems.
Not a fan of ghost council, it's a 5/5 that can't block, it gets hit by your board wipes, and in multiplayer 2 damage/life gain is just enough to start upsetting people and making you a target.
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Quote from: Dudecore on January 14, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
Besides the charms and dual lands, I am not impressed with this set AT ALL. Return to Ravnica just seems so much cooler. {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Skullcrack} are the only other winners it seems.
Not a fan of ghost council, it's a 5/5 that can't block, it gets hit by your board wipes, and in multiplayer 2 damage/life gain is just enough to start upsetting people and making you a target.
Exiling at EOT is optional, though. You can still have him block.
I didn't a see may, it's a little better bit not much.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 14, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 14, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
Besides the charms and dual lands, I am not impressed with this set AT ALL. Return to Ravnica just seems so much cooler. {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Skullcrack} are the only other winners it seems.
Not a fan of ghost council, it's a 5/5 that can't block, it gets hit by your board wipes, and in multiplayer 2 damage/life gain is just enough to start upsetting people and making you a target.
Read the card closer (it says may exile) and start playing {alchemist refuge}, {leyline of anticipation}, or {Vedalken Orrery} if you really want to use wrath in tandem with the ghost council.
I completely disagree that the ghost council is one of the better cards {Aurelia, the Warleader} is way better
Haha ghost council can be good in certain decks just gotta find the right one for it.
Auriuela or however you spell her name is really insane in aggro.
P.s where the hell is wizards coming up with the card names in this set, some of the more creative ones i have seen lol..
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 14, 2013, 10:19:34 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 14, 2013, 08:26:06 PM
Besides the charms and dual lands, I am not impressed with this set AT ALL. Return to Ravnica just seems so much cooler. {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Skullcrack} are the only other winners it seems.
Not a fan of ghost council, it's a 5/5 that can't block, it gets hit by your board wipes, and in multiplayer 2 damage/life gain is just enough to start upsetting people and making you a target.
Considering every creature you ever play will be hit by your own boardwipes, I would not see counting this against him. I know you didn't read the "may" part, that's fine...I didn't until like today also. But I don't think you get enough credit to this dude!
When he is out, he becomes a clock, plus a lifegain source for you. Your opponent will do everything they can to remove him fast. It will probably take 2 spells or one of their best spells to remove him. But when they do, just cloudshift or resto angel. You just gained value big time, and he's still swingung away.
Gruul Charm spoiled! One of the best charms yet IMO.
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Creatures without flying can't block this turn
Or gain control of all permanents you own (haha as if {Tyrant Hellkite} wasn't bad enough!!!!)
Or {Slagstorm} all fliers.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 01:33:59 AM
Gruul Charm spoiled! One of the best charms yet IMO.
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Creatures without flying can't block this turn
Or gain control of all permanents you own (haha as if {Tyrant Hellkite} wasn't bad enough!!!!)
Or {Slagstorm} all fliers.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic lol I think this charm is a little better than simic, but not much
Quote from: Kerebrus on January 15, 2013, 01:46:27 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 01:33:59 AM
Gruul Charm spoiled! One of the best charms yet IMO.
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Creatures without flying can't block this turn
Or gain control of all permanents you own (haha as if {Tyrant Hellkite} wasn't bad enough!!!!)
Or {Slagstorm} all fliers.
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic lol I think this charm is a little better than simic, but not much
{Boros Charm} is the best I think.
Lol sorry not to be clear enough...let me rephrase ;)
{Gruul Charm} spoiled!!! Probably an auto 4-of in every deck, likely to be banned in eternal formats. This card is just bonkers amazing.
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With this charm you can...make your guys unblockable. Ok sure. Oh btw fliers can still block!
You can also kill fliers that {Lingering Souls} puts out. But not any other flying creatures like resto angel. Or any fliers that matter!
...here is the big one. FINALLY AN ANSWER TO CONJURRED CURRENCY DECKS!!! Gain control of all permanents you own!! YEAH BABY! Best charm eva.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 01:57:06 AM
Lol sorry not to be clear enough...let me rephrase ;)
{Gruul Charm} spoiled!!! Probably an auto 4-of in every deck, likely to be banned in eternal formats. This card is just bonkers amazing.
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With this charm you can...make your guys unblockable. Ok sure. Oh btw fliers can still block!
You can also kill fliers that {Lingering Souls} puts out. But not any other flying creatures like resto angel. Or any fliers that matter!
...here is the big one. FINALLY AN ANSWER TO CONJURRED CURRENCY DECKS!!! Gain control of all permanents you own!! YEAH BABY! Best charm eva.
Who plays {Conjured Currency}?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2013, 02:14:44 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 01:57:06 AM
Lol sorry not to be clear enough...let me rephrase ;)
{Gruul Charm} spoiled!!! Probably an auto 4-of in every deck, likely to be banned in eternal formats. This card is just bonkers amazing.
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With this charm you can...make your guys unblockable. Ok sure. Oh btw fliers can still block!
You can also kill fliers that {Lingering Souls} puts out. But not any other flying creatures like resto angel. Or any fliers that matter!
...here is the big one. FINALLY AN ANSWER TO CONJURRED CURRENCY DECKS!!! Gain control of all permanents you own!! YEAH BABY! Best charm eva.
Who plays {Conjured Currency}?
^^ the hardcore players :p
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Esper<3
Grixis=no
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 15, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Esper<3
Grixis=no
Yeah but dont you agree?
Yeah it will be a good deck just never really liked grixis
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 15, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Esper<3
Grixis=no
Yeah but dont you agree?
Cipher triggers off of combat damage only I believe.
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
Cipher triggers off of combat damage only I believe.
Sadly. I was totally looking forward to Ciphering the Snipe. :(
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2013, 02:14:44 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 01:57:06 AM
Lol sorry not to be clear enough...let me rephrase ;)
{Gruul Charm} spoiled!!! Probably an auto 4-of in every deck, likely to be banned in eternal formats. This card is just bonkers amazing.
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With this charm you can...make your guys unblockable. Ok sure. Oh btw fliers can still block!
You can also kill fliers that {Lingering Souls} puts out. But not any other flying creatures like resto angel. Or any fliers that matter!
...here is the big one. FINALLY AN ANSWER TO CONJURRED CURRENCY DECKS!!! Gain control of all permanents you own!! YEAH BABY! Best charm eva.
Who plays {Conjured Currency}?
It's in my arsehole deck to make people mad
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 15, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Esper<3
Grixis=no
Yeah but dont you agree?
Cipher triggers off of combat damage only I believe.
Yeah but ciphering something on an {invisible stalker} gives you an additional 2 dmg per attack. For every cipher.
Quote from: S717 on January 15, 2013, 11:35:55 AM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 15, 2013, 02:14:44 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 01:57:06 AM
Lol sorry not to be clear enough...let me rephrase ;)
{Gruul Charm} spoiled!!! Probably an auto 4-of in every deck, likely to be banned in eternal formats. This card is just bonkers amazing.
---
With this charm you can...make your guys unblockable. Ok sure. Oh btw fliers can still block!
You can also kill fliers that {Lingering Souls} puts out. But not any other flying creatures like resto angel. Or any fliers that matter!
...here is the big one. FINALLY AN ANSWER TO CONJURRED CURRENCY DECKS!!! Gain control of all permanents you own!! YEAH BABY! Best charm eva.
Who plays {Conjured Currency}?
It's in my arsehole deck to make people mad
Since its optional to switch control of it I usually don't bother once I get it, kind of defeats the purpose lol
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 12:29:49 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
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Quote from: Cfrowein on January 15, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Esper<3
Grixis=no
Yeah but dont you agree?
Cipher triggers off of combat damage only I believe.
Yeah but ciphering something on an {invisible stalker} gives you an additional 2 dmg per attack. For every cipher.
I thought once you ciphered a spell it on triggered on the next attack only.
Quote from: Monrodesign on January 15, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 12:29:49 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:24:53 AM
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 15, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Esper<3
Grixis=no
Yeah but dont you agree?
Cipher triggers off of combat damage only I believe.
Yeah but ciphering something on an {invisible stalker} gives you an additional 2 dmg per attack. For every cipher.
I thought once you ciphered a spell it on triggered on the next attack only.
any combat damage will trigger cipher
Quote from: Monrodesign on January 15, 2013, 03:14:06 PM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 12:29:49 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 15, 2013, 10:31:06 AM
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Quote from: Cfrowein on January 15, 2013, 09:06:56 AM
Quote from: Fenster on January 15, 2013, 09:01:28 AM
I hate to say it but dimir will be awesome with grixis for things like {Hypersonic dragon}, {Goblin electromancer} and {Teleportal}.
And if it was so that you cast the copies off cipher then {Guttersnipe} would be usefull too.
Esper<3
Grixis=no
Yeah but dont you agree?
Cipher triggers off of combat damage only I believe.
Yeah but ciphering something on an {invisible stalker} gives you an additional 2 dmg per attack. For every cipher.
I thought once you ciphered a spell it on triggered on the next attack only.
Cipher is a permanent add on ability. It's like the spell leaves a residual foam on the creature that causes the spell to occur again every time the creature fights the player...it's like, the creatures damage is the spell
New card i saw
Glaring spotlight. {1} artifact Rare
Creatures your oppenent controls can be targeted as though they don't have hexproof
{3} sac spotlight your creatures have hexproof and are unblockable this turn
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 15, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
New card i saw
Glaring spotlight. {1} artifact Rare
Creatures your oppenent controls can be targeted as though they don't have hexproof
{3} sac spotlight your creatures have hexproof and are unblockable this turn
If this is for real it's a total answer to {Invisible Stalker} Dimir shenanigans.
Quote from: Maximo on January 15, 2013, 06:14:16 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 15, 2013, 06:10:04 PM
New card i saw
Glaring spotlight. {1} artifact Rare
Creatures your oppenent controls can be targeted as though they don't have hexproof
{3} sac spotlight your creatures have hexproof and are unblockable this turn
If this is for real it's a total answer to {Invisible Stalker} Dimir shenanigans.
This was spoiled on Aaron Forsythe's Twitter (https://twitter.com/mtgaaron/status/291284032170385408).
This card... sucks. :( lol. I think this card is seriously OP for a 1 drop. Now to make my Geist bigger. But honestly, bombastic card.
New awesome card! {Merciless Eviction} I think it is called.
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4BW
Choose one - Exile all artifacts, or all creatures, or all enchantments, or all plainswalkers.
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I've had no problem with hardcasting {Terminus}, and this one's effect is even better. Thoughts?
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
New awesome card! {Merciless Eviction} I think it is called.
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4BW
Choose one - Exile all artifacts, or all creatures, or all enchantments, or all plainswalkers.
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I've had no problem with hardcasting {Terminus}, and this one's effect is even better. Thoughts?
Damn that's a spicy meatball! This is a complete Limited BOMB and not bad for constructed either! The fact that you can choose what you want to wrath is pretty sweet! Is it teh card with the {Damnation}-esque art?
I don't know what artwork it has, but I saw the one you are talking about infinitiv. I sure hope it's that one!!! It looks awesome. I will for sure run this boss of a card. Very solid against control and midrange.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 09:29:16 PM
I don't know what artwork it has, but I saw the one you are talking about infinitiv. I sure hope it's that one!!! It looks awesome. I will for sure run this boss of a card. Very solid against control and midrange.
I really want to make Orzhov tokens, I have a playset of {Godless Shrine} and 2 playsets of {Isolated Chapels} as well as 4 Promo {Lingering Souls} and I want something to do with them! Lol. Throw in {Intangible Virtue} and splash {U} maybe and throw in a little control and {Favorable Winds} and maybe {Geist of Saint Traft}. A little {Vault of the Archangel} action? Holy .poo. I just found out how to properly finish my Esper Spirits deck... haha yeah! Ah man this is my next deck build once Gatecrash drops! Throw in the 2-drop extort enchantment and maybe the cipher Sorcery that makes 1/1 Flyers, and {Cloudfin Raptor}? Idk. Damn I want to work on this decklist now! Ah sweet!
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 15, 2013, 09:16:55 PM
New awesome card! {Merciless Eviction} I think it is called.
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4BW
Choose one - Exile all artifacts, or all creatures, or all enchantments, or all plainswalkers.
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I've had no problem with hardcasting {Terminus}, and this one's effect is even better. Thoughts?
There is some serious EDH love in GateCrash. Particularly in Esper so far. I am a happy Gorzo.
Solid. {Orzhov Charm} spoiled!
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Return a creature you have to its owners hand and all auras attatched to it; destroy target guy. You lose life equal to its toughness; reanimate a 1 or less drop creature from your gy
{Merciless Eviction} IS the {Damnation} art card =P So sick!
(http://i.imgur.com/e63lF.jpg)
{Merciless Eviction} should be named "EDH Staple". That card slots right into my Esper EDH deck.
While it is perhaps worse then {Austere Command}, and maybe either costs 1 mana too much, or one ability too little, flexible cards are not to be messed with. I love options, because options give you answers.
Exiling those things is no joke. I can see it maybe seeing play in a crazy Esper Midrange/Creatureless Control deck, but it is at heart an EDH card.
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138850&d=1358312514
Thought that's this was interesting.
Quote from: smokin terry on January 16, 2013, 08:51:13 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138850&d=1358312514
Thought that's this was interesting.
Decent mana fixer, outstanding EDH card.
I like that land a lot. Need more swamps for {Mutilate}? Hello fifth {Godless Shrine}.
Quote from: bravado883 on January 16, 2013, 08:17:12 AM
Aurelia is better than Obzedat? First, as everyone has mentioned, Aurelia is awesome for aggro...ok, how often do you find 6-drops in aggro decks. You pretty much HAVE to ramp to her to get any value. Obzedat has sick optional evasion, hits hard, and works really well in pretty much any deck with W and B. Aurelia is cool but will see more casual play; Obzedat is a powerhouse. Wish more people didn't like it, I'd be able to afford a play set :P
Haha we can only wish :(
Oh damn! That's a sweet land. I think I am gunna need two of those for my eldrazi deck. Copy cloudpost or glimmerpost. More and more LOCI!!!!!
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on January 16, 2013, 01:15:30 PM
Oh damn! That's a sweet land. I think I am gunna need two of those for my eldrazi deck. Copy cloudpost or glimmerpost. More and more LOCI!!!!!
Did not think of that combo.... Card just got better
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 16, 2013, 02:53:18 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on January 16, 2013, 01:15:30 PM
Oh damn! That's a sweet land. I think I am gunna need two of those for my eldrazi deck. Copy cloudpost or glimmerpost. More and more LOCI!!!!!
Did not think of that combo.... Card just got better
It's great for handling pesky legendary lands as well, especially with a {sun titan} or {crucible of worlds} in play.
It's a decent {Vesuva}, they're good friends to say the least
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
It's a decent {Vesuva}, they're good friends to say the least
Vesuva copying a thespian stage is op.
Quote from: scarsabrex on January 16, 2013, 04:29:55 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 16, 2013, 04:01:50 PM
It's a decent {Vesuva}, they're good friends to say the least
Vesuva copying a thespian stage is op.
That doesn't seem half bad, lol now you can play 12 {Wasteland}s!
Quote from: bravado883 on January 16, 2013, 06:32:41 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on January 16, 2013, 05:21:03 PM
See, the way around Aurrie's cost?
USA control :3 Mana cost means NOTHING XD
Yea you would eventually be able to play her, but in that type if deck you won't have many creatures, which limits Aurelia's utility. There are other, better cards to play as the game-ender for control. She's amazing if you could go {Hellrider}, {Thundermaw Hellkite}, Aurelia...but that's not really control, and In aggro if you have the first two aren't you winning anyway?
Edh, {Kaalia of the Vast}
{Aurelia, the Warleader} will likely never see constructed, it's not the type of card constructed players look for. I may eat my words, but I'm pretty confident I won't.
It isn't cool enough to make it, {Isperia, Supreme Judge} gives card advantage (you know how good that is) and gets nearly 0 play. Aurelia is a similar thing. It will be in {Kaalia of the Vast} EDH decks.
I honestly can perceive of {Obzedat, Ghost Council} making it to competitive, {Skullcrack} because of Tempo and the Charms. Outside of that I don't see the {Dreadbore}, {Abrupt Decay}, {Supreme Verdict}, {Detention Sphere}, {Ultimate Price}, Charms and other RtR cards being equalled or bettered by GTC cards so far.
Quote from: Dudecore on January 16, 2013, 10:45:30 PM
{Aurelia, the Warleader} will likely never see constructed, it's not the type of card constructed players look for. I may eat my words, but I'm pretty confident I won't.
It isn't cool enough to make it, {Isperia, Supreme Judge} gives card advantage (you know how good that is) and gets nearly 0 play. Aurelia is a similar thing. It will be in {Kaalia of the Vast} EDH decks.
I honestly can perceive of {Obzedat, Ghost Council} making it to competitive, {Skullcrack} because of Tempo and the Charms. Outside of that I don't see the {Dreadbore}, {Abrupt Decay}, {Supreme Verdict}, {Detention Sphere}, {Ultimate Price}, Charms and other RtR cards being equalled or bettered by GTC cards so far.
6 CMC isn't too bad. {Zealous Conscripts} sees play.
{Zealous Conscripts} is 5CMC, is splashible (costs only {R}) and swings games in sideboard. It has interaction with {Restoration Angel} (by flickering the stolen creature and making it yours).
Conversely {Aurelia, the Warleader} is not splashible, does not have turn 6 evasion (like {Thundermaw Hellkite}) and can be dealt with. I am not in love with the card.
I understand your doubts about her, but I think tyat comparing her to isperia is too much. There are 3 kinds of creatures with effects
1) creatures that effect the board immediatly
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2) creatures that need to tap or attack to take effect
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3) creatures that do not take effect unless a requirement is met
Isperia is on the 3rd scale. Isperia doesn't even do stuff when it attacks...your opponent gets to wait until he or she draws removal or whatnot. A pretty bad creature. Only good against newer players who do not realize the value in drawing cards, and use {Sign in Blood} on you.
Aurelia is much much better. She falls in between 1 and 2. Yes she needs to tap to take effect, but she has haste. So as long as your opponent has no instant removal for her, she takes effect. And then you can stark blinking her and whatnot to just finish your opponent. I believe she would be decent in naya.
True she isn't as good as "when cast" creatures ({Kozilek, Butcher of Truth}) or ETB creatures ({Thragtusk}) in most situations, but I have a hunch you will be seeing her a lot more than you think in t2 constructed.
But the whole set isn't spoiled yet so anything we say here is not really certain.
I preordered 2 of her because of my Naya deck... Im thinking she will see play... Thats just a hunch though. I also got a playset of {Boros Charm} and a playset of {Signal the Clans}
I just see her as winmore. Only time will tell who wins this card evaluation. Until then, we've seen 44/52 rare cards. I'm not anticipating anything that to alter my opinion of this set so far.
I do like the EDH additions.
If there are two cards that will for sure be good, it is boros charm and signal the clans. Good choices lol
4 new cards spoiled! Two of them I will speak of (the notable ones).
Spark Trooper (or spark something):
1WWR
6/1
Lifelink Trample Haste
Sac at end step
...SO. Pretty cool.
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Something Seer
4/4 flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, BOTH players pull a Bobster.
...Interesting.
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For those who don't know: Bob = {Dark Confidant}.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 17, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
4 new cards spoiled! Two of them I will speak of (the notable ones).
Spark Trooper (or spark something):
1WWR
1/6
Lifelink Trample Haste
Sac at end step
...SO. Pretty cool.
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Something Seer
4/4 flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, BOTH players pull a Bobster.
...Interesting.
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For those who don't know: Bob = {Dark Confidant}.
Ball Lightning Helix
Bad Bob
Sorry I just don't like giving out card advantage
I would rather just run staff of nin if I had to choose lol
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 17, 2013, 02:17:26 AM
I would rather just run staff of nin if I had to choose lol
That's because Staff is boss =]
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 16, 2013, 11:45:09 PM
If there are two cards that will for sure be good, it is boros charm and signal the clans. Good choices lol
Yepp that was my thinking behind it. We will see how it all plays out... Im quite anxious though :D
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 17, 2013, 01:54:26 AM
4 new cards spoiled! Two of them I will speak of (the notable ones).
Spark Trooper (or spark something):
1WWR
6/1
Lifelink Trample Haste
Sac at end step
...SO. Pretty cool.
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Something Seer
4/4 flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, BOTH players pull a Bobster.
...Interesting.
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For those who don't know: Bob = {Dark Confidant}.
I don't like any of them :/
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138895&d=1358399731
Me like.
Quote from: smokin terry on January 17, 2013, 08:43:42 AM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138895&d=1358399731
Me like.
Nice! Win/win.
Omg I love that card! That's insane. No matter what, you get something out of it. Either extra land or a useable card! Only thing that would suck would be to reveal a counter. I am making a green blue omniscience deck. This is DEFINATELY GOING IN IT!
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on January 17, 2013, 08:52:16 AM
Omg I love that card! That's insane. No matter what, you get something out of it. Either extra land or a useable card! Only thing that would suck would be to reveal a counter. I am making a green blue omniscience deck. This is DEFINATELY GOING IN IT!
Throw in {index} to know exactly when to play it.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on January 17, 2013, 08:52:16 AM
Omg I love that card! That's insane. No matter what, you get something out of it. Either extra land or a useable card! Only thing that would suck would be to reveal a counter. I am making a green blue omniscience deck. This is DEFINATELY GOING IN IT!
Throw in {index} to know exactly when to play it.
You have to suffle before you reveal. Which I like the randomness of it.
47/55 rares. 14/15 Mythics.
Quote from: smokin terry on January 17, 2013, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on January 17, 2013, 08:52:16 AM
Omg I love that card! That's insane. No matter what, you get something out of it. Either extra land or a useable card! Only thing that would suck would be to reveal a counter. I am making a green blue omniscience deck. This is DEFINATELY GOING IN IT!
Throw in {index} to know exactly when to play it.
You have to suffle before you reveal. Which I like the randomness of it.
Aw man, you're right. I jumped the 🔫. Still an awesome card though.
Quote from: Dudecore on January 17, 2013, 09:41:19 AM
47/55 rares. 14/15 Mythics.
Maybe Boros and dimir will get some really boss uncommons
Quote from: smokin terry on January 17, 2013, 09:32:03 AM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 17, 2013, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on January 17, 2013, 08:52:16 AM
Omg I love that card! That's insane. No matter what, you get something out of it. Either extra land or a useable card! Only thing that would suck would be to reveal a counter. I am making a green blue omniscience deck. This is DEFINATELY GOING IN IT!
Throw in {index} to know exactly when to play it.
You have to suffle before you reveal. Which I like the randomness of it.
Looks like i might be able to build bug after all <3
Personally, I like the seer. With cheap draw, overload cards, and cheap creatures, I can see this being very effective as a main deck option, especially as it hobbles Thragtusk/Reanimator decks (watch as they pray they dont draw griselbrand or crater hoof). I can see this being the basis for a low cost grixis control deck.
Also on a side note, anyone see this being used as a Tron killer in Modern, or is it too slow (personally, I find the thought of someone dying from drawing a turn 5 emrakul hilariously evil)
Im going to being selfish and pray that the seer is 3 CMC or less, and is mono colored. {Abrupt decay} and {ultimate price} that piece! Just because I play frites and that card would be the death of me.
Seer is bad against decks that run thragtusk. You make them lose 5 life for recealing it (that is, IF you don't make them flip a land...very possible). Then they gain it back when they cast it. Yay for giving your opponent more goodstuff.
I can see this card as the top curve in an esper delver deck though. IF they right tempo cards are printed. Make your opponent lose life constantly, while swinging with delvers (that you can reanimate with {Orzhov Charm}.
Duskmantle Seer - {2}{B}{U}
Creature - Vampire Wizard
Flying
At the begining of your upkeep, each player {Dark Confidant}s.
4/4
Aw man. Not only is it safe from {abrupt decay} and {ultimate price}, but {pillar of flame} and {searing spear} need assistance in nerfing it.
Realmwright U
All lands u control are also (pick basic land type).
Does this let them add that kind of mana too?
Quote from: Testset on January 17, 2013, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: izik99 on January 17, 2013, 02:08:27 PM
Realmwright U
All lands u control are also (pick basic land type).
Does this let them add that kind of mana too?
If it says "you control," then no...
I'm reading where people are saying that this is only so long as you control him. Now, if that were the case, wouldn't it have the "As long as you control..." phrase? Here's the picture (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138915&d=1358446881) that has it in there. Also, I want to call shenanigans on the Master Biomancer in there. Wouldn't the proper wording be "and is a Mutant", not "and as a Mutant"?
Quote from: Testset on January 17, 2013, 03:14:14 PM
Quote from: prayos on January 17, 2013, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 17, 2013, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: izik99 on January 17, 2013, 02:08:27 PM
Realmwright U
All lands u control are also (pick basic land type).
Does this let them add that kind of mana too?
If it says "you control," then no...
I'm reading where people are saying that this is only so long as you control him. Now, if that were the case, wouldn't it have the "As long as you control..." phrase? Here's the picture (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138915&d=1358446881) that has it in there. Also, I want to call shenanigans on the Master Biomancer in there. Wouldn't the proper wording be "and is a Mutant", not "and as a Mutant"?
That would be completely redundant. Then all static or triggered abilities would need to specify "as long as you control" or "its controller."
Lifelink, for instance, implicitly refers to its controller, not its owner. Otherwise, stealing a hexproof or lifelink creature would be a much less appealing proposition.
Look at {Pillory of the Sleepless}: it would be garbage if it was not referring to its controller.
Pillory is different, it's an enchantment. Look at {Olivia Voldaren}. "Gain control of target Vampire for as long as you control Olivia Voldaren."
Quote from: Testset on January 17, 2013, 03:29:44 PM
The point of that addendum is that if she leaves play, you don't get to keep them.
My point is that say you've got 3 islands when you play Realmwright. You say Swamp. So now they are Island Swamps. If he leaves play, those 3 should stay Island Swamps. If they didn't want that to happen, they should and would have said "as long as you control".
I'm not trying to say that his ability persists through ALL your lands. Only the ones on the battle field when he leaves.
The difference is wording. If it was:
"Lands you control become that type in addition..." (As an etb effect)
Then you would be right.
But it says:
"Lands you control are that type in addition..."
The key word is "are" vs, "become". The lands don't become another type (like island swamp), they just "are" two types while it is on the battlefield (because it ony has that ability as a creature permanent).
Ah, okay. That makes sense. Now, what about the wording on the Biomancer? That seems wrong as well.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 17, 2013, 12:58:28 PM
Seer is bad against decks that run thragtusk. You make them lose 5 life for recealing it (that is, IF you don't make them flip a land...very possible). Then they gain it back when they cast it. Yay for giving your opponent more goodstuff.
I can see this card as the top curve in an esper delver deck though. IF they right tempo cards are printed. Make your opponent lose life constantly, while swinging with delvers (that you can reanimate with {Orzhov Charm}.
If delver comes back i will take the personal responsibility of burning ever single one of that .poo. of a card.....
I'm sorry :/ I hated delver back in m12....
Don't worry it probably won't. Wizards won't print a splashable (almost) hardcounter and 0 drop cantrips this time lol
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 17, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
If delver comes back i will take the personal responsibility of burning ever single one of that .poo. of a card.....
I'm sorry :/ I hated delver back in m12....
You hated it before it came out? o_0
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 17, 2013, 12:58:28 PM
Seer is bad against decks that run thragtusk. You make them lose 5 life for recealing it (that is, IF you don't make them flip a land...very possible). Then they gain it back when they cast it. Yay for giving your opponent more goodstuff.
I can see this card as the top curve in an esper delver deck though. IF they right tempo cards are printed. Make your opponent lose life constantly, while swinging with delvers (that you can reanimate with {Orzhov Charm}.
So, one is they get thragtusk and break even and the other is they get thragtusk and are five ahead. In addition, they have to be carefu about drawing their bombs instead of milling them.
Quote from: prayos on January 17, 2013, 04:45:45 PM
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 17, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
If delver comes back i will take the personal responsibility of burning ever single one of that .poo. of a card.....
I'm sorry :/ I hated delver back in m12....
You hated it before it came out? o_0
Yeah!!!......
No lol i meant when m12 was code set ;p realized I worded it wrong, allow me to try again.
"I hated delver back in the innistrad block!!"
That's better :D
Quote from: prayos on January 17, 2013, 04:45:45 PM
Quote from: Cfrowein on January 17, 2013, 04:41:04 PM
If delver comes back i will take the personal responsibility of burning ever single one of that .poo. of a card.....
I'm sorry :/ I hated delver back in m12....
You hated it before it came out? o_0
Hipsters...
😂😭😂😭 +1 to you Wally.
Quote from: Kerebrus on January 17, 2013, 10:35:47 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on January 17, 2013, 09:41:19 AM
47/55 rares. 14/15 Mythics.
Maybe Boros and dimir will get some really boss uncommons
Yeah, because {Boros Charm} isn't the most powerful Charm out of all of them or anything... XD
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138919&d=1358458309
+{Exquisite Blood}
Mother of god! So far, two guild mages create infinite combos.
This is just insanity! Git yer playsets of {Exquisite Blood} before they skyrocket like {Jace, Memory Adept} did.
They already jumped $1.50
Quote from: prayos on January 17, 2013, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 17, 2013, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: izik99 on January 17, 2013, 02:08:27 PM
Realmwright U
All lands u control are also (pick basic land type).
Does this let them add that kind of mana too?
If it says "you control," then no...
I'm reading where people are saying that this is only so long as you control him. Now, if that were the case, wouldn't it have the "As long as you control..." phrase? Here's the picture (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138915&d=1358446881) that has it in there. Also, I want to call shenanigans on the Master Biomancer in there. Wouldn't the proper wording be "and is a Mutant", not "and as a Mutant"?
Well {Master Biomancer} officially spoiled, and after reading the text a few times, it's correct. It's one big long sentence
Quote from: Hays413 on January 18, 2013, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: prayos on January 17, 2013, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 17, 2013, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: izik99 on January 17, 2013, 02:08:27 PM
Realmwright U
All lands u control are also (pick basic land type).
Does this let them add that kind of mana too?
If it says "you control," then no...
I'm reading where people are saying that this is only so long as you control him. Now, if that were the case, wouldn't it have the "As long as you control..." phrase? Here's the picture (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138915&d=1358446881) that has it in there. Also, I want to call shenanigans on the Master Biomancer in there. Wouldn't the proper wording be "and is a Mutant", not "and as a Mutant"?
Well {Master Biomancer} officially spoiled, and after reading the text a few times, it's correct. It's one big long sentence
Link for the llazy? ^^
Quote from: Fenster on January 18, 2013, 11:01:07 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on January 18, 2013, 09:19:31 AM
Quote from: prayos on January 17, 2013, 02:40:48 PM
Quote from: Testset on January 17, 2013, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: izik99 on January 17, 2013, 02:08:27 PM
Realmwright U
All lands u control are also (pick basic land type).
Does this let them add that kind of mana too?
If it says "you control," then no...
I'm reading where people are saying that this is only so long as you control him. Now, if that were the case, wouldn't it have the "As long as you control..." phrase? Here's the picture (http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=138915&d=1358446881) that has it in there. Also, I want to call shenanigans on the Master Biomancer in there. Wouldn't the proper wording be "and is a Mutant", not "and as a Mutant"?
Well {Master Biomancer} officially spoiled, and after reading the text a few times, it's correct. It's one big long sentence
Link for the llazy? ^^
Check where he said here is a picture.
I like the Biomancer a lot actually! I'm just excited to play Simic at the prerealease. It seems too OP! Play BUG or RUG depending on your Gruul/Dimit pulls and just beat face with Evolvers and Bloodrush/Cipher shenanigans? Seems good
I'm thinking orzhov. And splashing blue or red depending on pulls. Thoughts?
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 18, 2013, 12:49:50 PM
I'm thinking orzhov. And splashing blue or red depending on pulls. Thoughts?
Could be good, a lack of Azorius hurts though, although Boros is beast. With this set, going Simic puts you directly in range of Dimir and Gruul and let's you play hybrids from both, no other guild has that. Golgari did the same thing with Junk/Jund decisions. Although there are a lot of good mono colored spells, being able to play the multis is very nice, their power level is almost always higher than that of a mono colored cards of the same CMC
Correction, it seems all of the guilds do this and I'm an idiot. Either way I'm playing Simic lol
They can all mix but not all of them have two options to mix with.
Quote from: bravado883 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Orzhov is my pick for pre-release, but I have to admit I'm disinclined to play it in standard now that it's just going to be a combo deck. Combo is my least favorite deck type and I refuse to play something as broken as Mage + Exquisite Blood. Makes me sad. I don't really understand why WotC would do something so stupid. Are we all just going to main board enchantment removal now? Am I overreacting? Is a combo that's easily put together turn four not OP?
Why main deck enchantment removal? Have you considered main decking creature removal?
Quote from: Testset on January 18, 2013, 01:38:52 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Orzhov is my pick for pre-release, but I have to admit I'm disinclined to play it in standard now that it's just going to be a combo deck. Combo is my least favorite deck type and I refuse to play something as broken as Mage + Exquisite Blood. Makes me sad. I don't really understand why WotC would do something so stupid. Are we all just going to main board enchantment removal now? Am I overreacting? Is a combo that's easily put together turn four not OP?
You can't assemble it until turn 5 at the earliest, with a consistent land drop. It can't activate till turn 6.
{Overgrown tomb} > {arbo elf}
{godless shrine} > {somberwald sage}
{godless shrine} > tap sage and tomb for {crypt ghast}, untap tomb and produce 6 mana with your 3 shocks to extort your casting of {exquisite blood}
Turn 4 play guildmage and extort any spell with his ability on
Have we mentioned {lord of the void} so want this for my multiplayer decks.
Edit: for some reason I thought this said from each graveyard take a creature. So not as good for my multiplayer. But still a decent boss card.
Quote from: Testset on January 18, 2013, 02:17:30 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 18, 2013, 01:56:08 PM
{Overgrown tomb} > {arbo elf}
{godless shrine} > {somberwald sage}
{godless shrine} > tap sage and tomb for {crypt ghast}, untap tomb and produce 6 mana with your 3 shocks to extort your casting of {exquisite blood}
Turn 4 play guildmage and extort any spell with his ability on
You're absolutely right: a 3-color with a perfect draw and no removal from your opponents can pull it off. How silly of me. 😜
A creative mindset is necessary for innovation. I cant afford to restrict my building to the reasons something wont work, that's what revisions and sideboard are for. If i stopped because what i wanted to do wasnt likely to happen I wouldnt have gotten my avacyn game day mat or pukled off 3rd turn billion damage numerous times at standard events. Any dream can be made reality and most can be made viable so long as you package it in a reality friendly box.
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 18, 2013, 02:37:39 PM
Have we mentioned {lord of the void} so want this for my multiplayer decks.
Edit: for some reason I thought this said from each graveyard take a creature. So not as good for my multiplayer. But still a decent boss card.
You're thinking of {Sepulchral Primordial}
Quote from: Testset on January 18, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Wasn't trying to be an 🐴, or anything. The point was that {Exquisite Blood} isn't OP, nor easily put together turn 4. I personally like combos and some are pretty ridiculous. I just don't see this as one. 😕
They didn't mention {Ranger's Path} and {Farseek} in green and {Think Twice}, {Amass the Components} and {Forbidden Alchemy} in blue, just left up to choices. It may not be the fastest in blue, but it's more reliable and green has speed, but can be shoddy. If you can mix them together, shouldn't be hard having ALL the shocklands, you could rush the combo out.
Quote from: bravado883 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Orzhov is my pick for pre-release, but I have to admit I'm disinclined to play it in standard now that it's just going to be a combo deck. Combo is my least favorite deck type and I refuse to play something as broken as Mage + Exquisite Blood. Makes me sad. I don't really understand why WotC would do something so stupid. Are we all just going to main board enchantment removal now? Am I overreacting? Is a combo that's easily put together turn four not OP?
Neither of those cards are May abilities. Which means it goes into an infinite loop. Which would be stupid to do.
421.4. If the loop contains only mandatory actions, the game ends in a draw. (See rule 102.6.)
Quote from: Testset on January 18, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: Dragonburner on January 18, 2013, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Orzhov is my pick for pre-release, but I have to admit I'm disinclined to play it in standard now that it's just going to be a combo deck. Combo is my least favorite deck type and I refuse to play something as broken as Mage + Exquisite Blood. Makes me sad. I don't really understand why WotC would do something so stupid. Are we all just going to main board enchantment removal now? Am I overreacting? Is a combo that's easily put together turn four not OP?
Neither of those cards are May abilities. Which means it goes into an infinite loop. Which would be stupid to do.
421.4. If the loop contains only mandatory actions, the game ends in a draw. (See rule 102.6.)
704.05a: If a player has 0 or less life, he loses the game. This is a state-based action, and will automatically end the game independent of the stack.
A don't know why that was so funny. That first part was kinda smarta💢💢. If a player has 0 or less life, they lose.
JUDGE WARS FOR THE WIN
Quote from: Crapshooter on January 18, 2013, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 18, 2013, 02:37:39 PM
Have we mentioned {lord of the void} so want this for my multiplayer decks.
Edit: for some reason I thought this said from each graveyard take a creature. So not as good for my multiplayer. But still a decent boss card.
You're thinking of {Sepulchral Primordial}
Yeah, but I really like lord of the void. The name reminds me of the noid from the old pizza commercials.
{rakdos, lord of riots}, {lord of the void} and {hellraiser goblin} seem fun.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 18, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
{rakdos, lord of riots}, {lord of the void} and {hellraiser goblin} seem fun.
Lord of the void sounds amazing
But i don't know anymore. What guild should I e I'm interested in white so boros or orzhov
I think the exquisite blood combo is very easily disrupted, just run some more enchantment hate in your 75 and/or get creative with creature hate.
I equate the combo to {grave titan}. It is really good but having it in your deck does not make winning easy. However if you cheat it out really fast you can steal wins or better yet if you carefully control the game to a favorable position and release it then you have granted your self the perfect swift finish on a floundering opponent.
The way MaRo described Ohrzov is a bleeder deck. To paraphrase, bleeder decks gum up the works and then nickel and dime the opponent to death. So no doubt Orhzov will have lots pf cards that will bring the game to a crawl. Just curious...how do you beat that?
Straight up overpowerment.
Gruul/rakdos/simic basically.
Pump up your stuff fast or big enough to overrun them before its too late.
Alternatively you could use both of vizkopa mage's abilities with say {Deathpact Angel}
Or a similar big creature and one shot for 10 gaining five
Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.
Totally overlooked this!
And especially against extort since its whenever you cast a spell.
Quote from: Fenster on January 19, 2013, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.
Totally overlooked this!
And especially against extort since its whenever you cast a spell.
What in simic beats bleeders?
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: Fenster on January 19, 2013, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.
Totally overlooked this!
And especially against extort since its whenever you cast a spell.
What in simic beats bleeders?
A huge {Cloudfin Raptor}, haha
Bleeding is one of those less popular archtypes, like milling. It tends to be mid-range and mana intensive to pull off.
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: Fenster on January 19, 2013, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.
Totally overlooked this!
And especially against extort since its whenever you cast a spell.
What in simic beats bleeders?
Simic has strength in how many cheap spells it has and how many resources it accumulates (mana, cards, and life). Bleeders have to decide early on if they want to stop your resource allocation and early dudes or your big finish cards. If thy choose wrong then youll over run them with early game or have no answers for your late game. Plus it's just hard to bleed something that has so much
So then. Bleeders are weak to tempo decks?
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 19, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
So then. Bleeders are weak...
Period. 😁
You just called Ohrzov weak. Because MaRo said basically that Orhzov in gatecrash is primarily a bleeder deck. RESIST THE OPPRESSORS! Ok, I'm starting to lead this topic off topic
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 06:23:05 PM
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on January 19, 2013, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 06:15:59 PM
So then. Bleeders are weak...
Period. 😁
You just called Ohrzov weak. Because MaRo said basically that Orhzov in gatecrash is primarily a bleeder deck. RESIST THE OPPRESSORS! Ok, I'm starting to lead this topic off topic
Orzhov as a guild maybe, I will agree that there are some very powerful cards in Orzhov, but I'm not too fond of it as a limited choice. This set is too aggressive, in constructed it's viable in turbo fog and control though
Bleeder decks are good for EDH. You can keep a low profile and gain enough mana to swoop in for a crushing finish. In Standard? I doubt it, seems too slow and mana intensive. Doesn't change the board state either, much like milling. Gaining 1 or 2 life a turn is sweet, getting swung at by a 5/3 is not.
So use a tempo strategy against Ohrzov? And mid/late game swing in with big finishers?
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
So use a tempo strategy against Ohrzov? And mid/late game swing in with big finishers?
I wouldn't model a deck around beating Orzhov. They don't seem particularly powerful.
Quote from: Dudecore on January 19, 2013, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
So use a tempo strategy against Ohrzov? And mid/late game swing in with big finishers?
I wouldn't model a deck around beating Orzhov. They don't seem particularly powerful.
My point exactly, I figured I'd at least give them some credit though lol
Quote from: Dudecore on January 19, 2013, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Birdbrain on January 19, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
So use a tempo strategy against Ohrzov? And mid/late game swing in with big finishers?
I wouldn't model a deck around beating Orzhov. They don't seem particularly powerful.
I won't model one around beating it. I just want to know how to keep it off balance just in case I'm up against a good player.
Also, dimirs main strategy this time around is evasion. It's secondary strategy is milling
Beat Orzhov the way you'd beat any deck that play 5-6 mana spells every turn...
Dimir is always about evasion and milling. They always stink too. Might be good in limited, gotta play first.
Is boros bad too? I heard it was. What about gruul?
Boros is awesome
How do you think {Clan Defiance} will shake out? I go back and forth on this card because i like my Naya deck the way it is, but this card catches my eye whenever i go through the spoiler list. I just dont know whether it or not it would be worth pre-ordering some...
It has it's advantages and disadvantages. If you like Timmy effects go ahead and order a couple. Seems slightly better than {fireball} since fireball you have to pay extra for extra targets. And it doesn't seem to pan out as well. And one thing I'm wondering...this seems all red. How does it fit green???
Oh wait..."creature with flying"
I think its pretty sweet. Possibly kill two creatures and direct damage? Yes.
It seems like it could be better than bonfire in certain situations. I think it will see play. Especially with resto angel flying around so many decks, and there will always be ground creatures to hit.
Quote from: Estel2931 on January 19, 2013, 08:03:40 PM
How do you think {Clan Defiance} will shake out? I go back and forth on this card because i like my Naya deck the way it is, but this card catches my eye whenever i go through the spoiler list. I just dont know whether it or not it would be worth pre-ordering some...
I personally think it's quite excellent, I like all of the X spells though. They're all quite powerful, some more than others {Sphinx's Revelation}, {Aurelia's Fury}... But they're all pretty good. I think {Battlefield Medic} is going to get insane. With all of the X spells floating around, everyone is going to be attempting to break/use them, and Medic's goofy self will be a VERY effective {Mana Leak}
I'm gona have fun with ghost council card
I'll play him you take 2 and I gain 2 then my end step I'll exile him my next turn comes back take 2 I gain 2 them attack for 5 play restoration angel take 2 gain 2 cloudshift well you get the point gona be one of my favorite cards
WHOLE SET SPOILED.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on January 21, 2013, 01:52:22 AM
WHOLE SET SPOILED.
Oh yes it was, holy poopoo...
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/gatecrash/cig#
This set look slike wayyyy to much fun!
Yeah this set is a little bit way too awesome. I don't think I'm ready for this, at all.
Final spoilers and the set lost it's luster in my eyes. No longer is gatecrash "FREAKING AWESOME!!!" Now i realize the truth, return to ravnica BLOCK may be the best set to date. If dragon maze keeps this up, the sheer masterful design of the set as a whole will rival if now beat that of all previous sets. Bravo wizards, bravo.
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 21, 2013, 02:10:25 AM
Final spoilers and the set lost it's luster in my eyes. No longer is gatecrash "FREAKING AWESOME!!!" Now i realize the truth, return to ravnica BLOCK may be the best set to date. If dragon maze keeps this up, the sheer masterful design of the set as a whole will rival if now beat that of all previous sets. Bravo wizards, bravo.
I seriously can't take this right now, I keep looking over the cards and I'm not sure what to say. I agree with you dude, this set is so well constructed, it's amazing. It's a complete masterpiece, and it's still missing about 150 cards.
EDIT: Block, not Set
Our buddy Ral is on {Homing Lightning}, I think it's fair to say he's in Dragon's Maze.
Immortal servitude is wow. Mass unburial rites, yes please
I'll also mention there's a huge power creep with enchantments, ethereal armor with murder investigation, the new green one that gives hex proof, the black one that says when enchanted creature is killed target oppenent loses x and you gain x where x is its power. So sick, so worth the 2-for 1 drawback now
Anyone else notice {Prophetic Prism} is back?
Quote from: Wally on January 21, 2013, 07:03:04 AM
Anyone else notice {Prophetic Prism} is back?
Me and my buddy were more happy about that than anything else spoiled last night.
Quote from: Wally on January 21, 2013, 07:03:04 AM
Anyone else notice {Prophetic Prism} is back?
Yes! I'm so happy.
All
The
Dimir
Cards
Are
So
Amazing
I seriously can't contain my excitement, I need Gatecrash and I need it NOW!
Just saw all the cards this morning. All I can do is /nerdgasm.
I've reached the crossroads in every young mans life where he must chose whether he wants to see Morrissey for the 11th time for his birthday, or preorder all these amazing Gatecrash cards.
Omg! I am so happy about these cards, and I haven't even gone thru half of them. So happy that {Smite} and {Contaminated Ground} are back! ROTE was an excellent set.
Quote from: G33kL0rd on January 21, 2013, 09:21:37 AM
All
The
Dimir
Cards
Are
So
Amazing
I seriously can't contain my excitement, I need Gatecrash and I need it NOW!
The mill isn't half bad for Constructed. I was really hopin for a good one for my Modern Mill, but got nothing. {Mind Grind} is a bad {Mind Funeral}. The 2-drop Cipher 3-mill is okay, but no {Glimpse the Unthinkable}, and it forces me to play more creatures with evasion, so pass. And the rest are just terrible.
For some reason, the art on {Guardian of the Gateless} is just so awesome to me. Possibly my favorite art on a Gatecrash card so far.
Should we expect to see any of the primordial guys outside of limited? I mean they are plenty to cast and huge guys when they hit the battlefield, and most have half decent enter the battlefield stuff.
Thoughts?
Could make pretty ok reanimate targets I think, but besides that I doubt it
Quote from: Wally on January 21, 2013, 08:39:48 PM
Should we expect to see any of the primordial guys outside of limited? I mean they are plenty to cast and huge guys when they hit the battlefield, and most have half decent enter the battlefield stuff.
Thoughts?
They will more then likely be played in EDH; as for the other formats only time will tell.
PROPHETIC PRISM YAY
MYSTIC GENESIS WILL MAKE WAVES IN CONSTRUCTED
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on January 21, 2013, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: Wally on January 21, 2013, 08:39:48 PM
Should we expect to see any of the primordial guys outside of limited? I mean they are plenty to cast and huge guys when they hit the battlefield, and most have half decent enter the battlefield stuff.
Thoughts?
They will more then likely be played in EDH; as for the other formats only time will tell.
They were made for EDH, hence the "each opponent" bit
Why is {prophetic prism} so good?
Cantrips and mana fixing from what I hear. Im not a big fan of it.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on January 21, 2013, 11:04:02 PM
Cantrips and mana fixing from what I hear. Im not a big fan of it.
It's ok. 2 mana to draw a card and potential early-mid game mana fixing. Nothing spectacular, but hey, its a common :P
Yeah I suppose its not too bad for a common. If I need mana fixin, I'd just pay the one mana difference for {chromatic lantern}.
Its awesome for edh.
Manafix without losing card advantage.
Great for limited, too.
Quote from: Maximo on January 21, 2013, 10:58:57 PM
Why is {prophetic prism} so good?
I've liked it since my {Open the Vaults} deck.
Now we're is my foil playset that I had?...
But who is going to evil genius comics in California, PA on Sunday at 3 pm ??? Cause I'm going then :)
Zegana is amazing with the evolve mechanic!!!
Bump
I un-sticked this because of the following reasons:
1) Gatecrash has been fully spoiled for all of your enjoyment.
2) General Forum does not move that quickly in the winter compared to Summer (when everyone is off of school)
3) the myriad of individual threads regarding all of the minutiae of Gatecrash.