Gatecrash Spoiler?

Started by Imdowd80, December 22, 2012, 12:01:56 AM

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Crapshooter

Quote from: Testset on January 18, 2013, 03:37:58 PM
Wasn't trying to be an 🐴, or anything. The point was that {Exquisite Blood} isn't OP, nor easily put together turn 4. I personally like combos and some are pretty ridiculous. I just don't see this as one. 😕

They didn't mention  {Ranger's Path} and  {Farseek} in green and  {Think Twice},  {Amass the Components} and  {Forbidden Alchemy} in blue, just left up to choices. It may not be the fastest in blue, but it's more reliable and green has speed, but can be shoddy. If you can mix them together, shouldn't be hard having ALL the shocklands, you could rush the combo out.

Dragonburner

Quote from: bravado883 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Orzhov is my pick for pre-release, but I have to admit I'm disinclined to play it in standard now that it's just going to be a combo deck. Combo is my least favorite deck type and I refuse to play something as broken as Mage + Exquisite Blood. Makes me sad. I don't really understand why WotC would do something so stupid. Are we all just going to main board enchantment removal now? Am I overreacting? Is a combo that's easily put together turn four not OP?

Neither of those cards are May abilities. Which means it goes into an infinite loop. Which would be stupid to do.

421.4. If the loop contains only mandatory actions, the game ends in a draw. (See rule 102.6.)

Bozo_Law

Quote from: Testset on January 18, 2013, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: Dragonburner on January 18, 2013, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on January 18, 2013, 01:29:49 PM
Orzhov is my pick for pre-release, but I have to admit I'm disinclined to play it in standard now that it's just going to be a combo deck. Combo is my least favorite deck type and I refuse to play something as broken as Mage + Exquisite Blood. Makes me sad. I don't really understand why WotC would do something so stupid. Are we all just going to main board enchantment removal now? Am I overreacting? Is a combo that's easily put together turn four not OP?

Neither of those cards are May abilities. Which means it goes into an infinite loop. Which would be stupid to do.

421.4. If the loop contains only mandatory actions, the game ends in a draw. (See rule 102.6.)
704.05a: If a player has 0 or less life, he loses the game. This is a state-based action, and will automatically end the game independent of the stack.

A don't know why that was so funny. That first part was kinda smarta💢💢.  If a player has 0 or less life, they lose.


JUDGE WARS FOR THE WIN

Imdowd80

Quote from: Crapshooter on January 18, 2013, 04:00:57 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on January 18, 2013, 02:37:39 PM
Have we mentioned {lord of the void} so want this for my multiplayer decks.

Edit: for some reason I thought this said from each graveyard take a creature. So not as good for my multiplayer. But still a decent boss card.

You're thinking of {Sepulchral Primordial}
Yeah, but I really like lord of the void. The name reminds me of the noid from the old pizza commercials.

Kaleo42

{rakdos, lord of riots}, {lord of the void} and {hellraiser goblin} seem fun.

All-Mana Mania

Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 18, 2013, 07:42:22 PM
{rakdos, lord of riots}, {lord of the void} and {hellraiser goblin} seem fun.


Lord of the void sounds amazing

All-Mana Mania

But i don't know anymore. What guild should I e I'm interested in white so boros or orzhov

Boringanarchy

I think the exquisite blood combo is very easily disrupted, just run some more enchantment hate in your 75 and/or get creative with creature hate.

Kaleo42

I equate the combo to {grave titan}. It is really good but having it in your deck does not make winning easy. However if you cheat it out really fast you can steal wins or better yet if you carefully control the game to a favorable position and release it then you have granted your self the perfect swift finish on a floundering opponent.

Birdbrain

The way MaRo described Ohrzov is a bleeder deck. To paraphrase, bleeder decks gum up the works and then nickel and dime the opponent to death. So no doubt Orhzov will have lots pf cards that will bring the game to a crawl. Just curious...how do you beat that?

Fenster

Straight up overpowerment.
Gruul/rakdos/simic basically.
Pump up your stuff fast or big enough to overrun them before its too late.

Malleo

Alternatively you could use both of vizkopa mage's abilities with say  {Deathpact Angel}
Or a similar big creature and one shot for 10 gaining five

Kaleo42

Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.

Fenster

Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.
Totally overlooked this!
And especially against extort since its whenever you cast a spell.

Birdbrain

Quote from: Fenster on January 19, 2013, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: Kaleo42 on January 19, 2013, 03:05:54 PM
Bleeders lose to discard. If they dont have spells to cast and answers to use then they can stall or bleed effectively.
Totally overlooked this!
And especially against extort since its whenever you cast a spell.
What in simic beats bleeders?