Well the M13 spoilers have begun and so far I'm interested. Can't wait to see if the {Stasis} and {Counterspell} are true. Also rumors say Exalted is coming in M13.
I'm quitting if counterspell is in it.
Where r the spoilers? I wnna see em
Counterspells are part of the game son! Wooo go counterspells! :D
A rumor of Exalted, eh? Well with Nicol Bolas coming back, it makes sense that other alara-block stuff might come back. I for one wouldn't mind some of alara's multicolor fun, especially to accompany Ravnica coming up again. And exalted was a fun Alara keyword. So was Devour.
I so hope m13 is the set of control, I've been waiting to play a good control deck for a while
Exalted shouldn't surprise me honestly. Especially considering the new Planechase is using Cascade and Devour.
I hit castlesandcooks.com for most of my spoilers.
How bout {undermine} and {countersquall}??
Quote from: Clearmario on May 23, 2012, 06:40:07 PM
I so hope m13 is the set of control, I've been waiting to play a good control deck for a while
Control or Permission? 'Cause I think there still plenty of control around.
Besides, permission is only really fun for the one playing it. Same with other grieffing strats like hand/resource denial, LD...
I hope they make it so you can build more than 5 types of decks like they have now.
Zero creativity. :(
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
I hope they make it so you can build more than 5 types of decks like they have now.
Zero creativity. :(
Dude I know right!! I built a U/R/b delver list and everyone was like " oh you're playing delver? Sweet! You running swords?"
"no"
"dude your deck sucks then"
I liked the old days where sure there were a few solid decks but you could find ways around them and build something entirely new and just as potent
Thank you. Someone shares my point of view. Now to get wizards to understand.
Quote from: BlackJester on May 23, 2012, 07:31:58 PM
Quote from: Clearmario on May 23, 2012, 06:40:07 PM
I so hope m13 is the set of control, I've been waiting to play a good control deck for a while
Control or Permission? 'Cause I think there still plenty of control around.
Besides, permission is only really fun for the one playing it. Same with other grieffing strats like hand/resource denial, LD...
{Plow Under} comes to mind. If that gets reprinted I will boycott standard.
Quote from: Kuberr on May 23, 2012, 07:41:13 PM
Thank you. Someone shares my point of view. Now to get wizards to understand.
Good luck with that.
okay, i think there's a lot of misinformation going around.
I'm not finding any M13 spoilers anywhere at all, are you all sure you're not getting it mixed up with Planechase stuff? And where was it confirmed Bolas was on his way back? If you're once again referencing the image of the 13 between Bolas' horns, that was the announcement for Duels of the Planeswalkers 2013 edition, not M13.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww7mx2uUr6g
Goto 0:28. She's the only one "officially" spoiled to my knowledge.
Quote from: BlackJester on May 23, 2012, 10:54:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww7mx2uUr6g
Goto 0:28. She's the only one "officially" spoiled to my knowledge.
Who is at 0:28?
I saw liliana in upper right corner
http://mtgsalvation.com/magic-2013-m13-spoiler.html
A spoiler list. I trust this because some items were removed when they were found to be Planechase cards.
I thought there were no multicolored cards in core sets.
No way is {counterspell} coming back. They cried and cried about how OP {mana leak} is, and then reintroduce {counterspell}? Impossible. I think they might have a UU {mana leak}, soft counter for 2 blue. Probably UU, counter target spell unless it's controller pays 2. {Daze}, {Mental Misstep}, {Mana Leak}, {Spell Pierce} are all extinct cards going forward.
still seems shaky on the Bolas, but i'll hold my i told you so's till the official spoilers.
Quote from: Dudecore on May 23, 2012, 11:53:46 PM
No way is {counterspell} coming back. They cried and cried about how OP {mana leak} is, and then reintroduce {counterspell}? Impossible. I think they might have a UU {mana leak}, soft counter for 2 blue. Probably UU, counter target spell unless it's controller pays 2. {Daze}, {Mental Misstep}, {Mana Leak}, {Spell Pierce} are all extinct cards going forward.
I think the "brokeness" of {Mana Leak} is because of how easy it is to splash and that Standard play is pretty much decided by turn 5. Almost any spell in that time is {Mana Leak} fodder. {Counterspell} is a little different because it's (essentially) the same effect just harder to splash. Having turn two a {Swamp} and {Island} is a strong turn 2 setup because of the flexibility of {Mana Leak} and {Go for the Throat}. Make it {Counterspell} instead and {Swamp}/{Island} setup loses it's potential by half.
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 23, 2012, 11:26:01 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 23, 2012, 10:54:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww7mx2uUr6g
Goto 0:28. She's the only one "officially" spoiled to my knowledge.
Who is at 0:28?
The aforementioned {Xathrid Gorgon}.
Herein lies spoilers an spoiler discussion for M13.
Quote from: Maximo on May 23, 2012, 11:57:11 PM
still seems shaky on the Bolas, but i'll hold my i told you so's till the official spoilers.
Always objective... Good quality to have.
Quote from: Leviathan on May 24, 2012, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 23, 2012, 11:53:46 PM
No way is {counterspell} coming back. They cried and cried about how OP {mana leak} is, and then reintroduce {counterspell}? Impossible. I think they might have a UU {mana leak}, soft counter for 2 blue. Probably UU, counter target spell unless it's controller pays 2. {Daze}, {Mental Misstep}, {Mana Leak}, {Spell Pierce} are all extinct cards going forward.
I think the "brokeness" of {Mana Leak} is because of how easy it is to splash and that Standard play is pretty much decided by turn 5. Almost any spell in that time is {Mana Leak} fodder. {Counterspell} is a little different because it's (essentially) the same effect just harder to splash. Having turn two a {Swamp} and {Island} is a strong turn 2 setup because of the flexibility of {Mana Leak} and {Go for the Throat}. Make it {Counterspell} instead and {Swamp}/{Island} setup loses it's potential by half.
{Counterspell} will never be printed again. Mark it down, tell everyone. If {Mana Leak} is a problem, a hard counter for 2? Splash or not, everyone will cry that blue has a counter, period. It would buff {Snapcaster Mage}. The trade value on {counterspell} is insane, UU and a card to stop anything.
I think a {Mana Leak} for UU is more apt, it would prevent splashing, and also be a soft counter. A hard counter for UU is too OP. considering a 1UU {dissipate} exists, a UU would strictly be better.
Quote from: Dudecore on May 24, 2012, 12:13:08 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on May 24, 2012, 12:02:15 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on May 23, 2012, 11:53:46 PM
No way is {counterspell} coming back. They cried and cried about how OP {mana leak} is, and then reintroduce {counterspell}? Impossible. I think they might have a UU {mana leak}, soft counter for 2 blue. Probably UU, counter target spell unless it's controller pays 2. {Daze}, {Mental Misstep}, {Mana Leak}, {Spell Pierce} are all extinct cards going forward.
I think the "brokeness" of {Mana Leak} is because of how easy it is to splash and that Standard play is pretty much decided by turn 5. Almost any spell in that time is {Mana Leak} fodder. {Counterspell} is a little different because it's (essentially) the same effect just harder to splash. Having turn two a {Swamp} and {Island} is a strong turn 2 setup because of the flexibility of {Mana Leak} and {Go for the Throat}. Make it {Counterspell} instead and {Swamp}/{Island} setup loses it's potential by half.
{Counterspell} will never be printed again. Mark it down, tell everyone. If {Mana Leak} is a problem, a hard counter for 2? Splash or not, everyone will cry that blue has a counter, period. It would buff {Snapcaster Mage}. The trade value on {counterspell} is insane, UU and a card to stop anything.
I think a {Mana Leak} for UU is more apt, it would prevent splashing, and also be a soft counter. A hard counter for UU is too OP. considering a 1UU {dissipate} exists, a UU would strictly be better.
You are not wrong and I don't disagree with you. However I'll stat open minded to the notion. Trust me I don't want to see it either. For now I'm just going to play the waiting game.
We've only begun to see the ramifications of a G deck hoser ({revenge of the hunted}). IMO they need to have a Miracle hoser if they can. It's not only Revenge, but {blessings of nature}, {thunderous wrath}, {terminus} and {vanishment}. {Cavern of Souls} merely made {Snapcaster Mage} work harder, it can still Flash {vapor snag}, {Midnight Haunting}, {Timely Reinforcements}, {ponder} and {gitaxian probe}.
I think that WotC would be comfortable never printing another functional blue counter. It'd be more in league with {Dungeon Geists} or something that was more creature stall.
When does Dotp 2013 come out? Cause I wanna pre-order it
Quote from: Greg54js on May 24, 2012, 05:45:53 AM
When does Dotp 2013 come out? Cause I wanna pre-order it
Can you preorder software? I don't know.
/notsarcasm
Well I thought you had to preorder to get the promo card
Posting in soon to be the largest thread on imtg.
Funny thing is, half of this thread should be in the mana leak thread. lol
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on May 24, 2012, 05:08:02 PM
Funny thing is, half of this thread should be in the mana leak thread. lol
...and half of that thread could be over here. I know.
http://mtgsalvation.com/magic-2013-m13-spoiler.html
Anyone see usefulness here?
Quote
Archaeomancer
Creature - Human Wizard
When Archaeomancer enters the battlefield, return target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard to your hand.
Think that's a shot at {Snapcaster Mage}? Same combine Mana cost as Snappy+{Mana Leak}, and inverted Power and Toughtness.
He's the poor mans {Snapcaster Mage} and may actually signal the ban of Old' snappy.
Why am I not seeing any "m13" set stamps, wth is "D13"
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on May 24, 2012, 10:53:13 PM
Why am I not seeing any "m13" set stamps, wth is "D13"
They're from the iPad version of "Duels of the Planewalkers 2013". The cards in that game don't have M13 set stamps.
Ah I see, but would mtgsalvation post a card that has not been verified? It says they're from m13, maybe it's just mislabeled and they are actually from dotp???
Didn't many of the DotP stuff end up in the Core Set anyway?
Cards in DotP are in M13. There are no originals as far as I am aware.
Quote from: Dudecore on May 24, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
Cards in DotP are in M13. There are no originals as far as I am aware.
That's what I though but wasn't gonna just up n say it without being sure lol
Quote from: Dudecore on May 24, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
Cards in DotP are in M13. There are no originals as far as I am aware.
NO ORIGINALS!!!? That would be bogus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww7mx2uUr6g
The official trailer shows M12 cards and M13. The decks will all be some combination of Standard cards before Ravnica rotation. Might not be any Scars block either.
Planeschase multiplayer
Exalted as a keyword? Very interesting. I'm feeling turn one Delver, turn two exalted goon, attack with flipped delver for four. Awesome.
Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 25, 2012, 03:03:22 AM
Exalted as a keyword? Very interesting. I'm feeling turn one Delver, turn two exalted goon, attack with flipped delver for four. Awesome.
Return of {rafiq if the many} delver swings for 4 w/ doublestrike...
Quote from: Greg54js on May 25, 2012, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 25, 2012, 03:03:22 AM
Exalted as a keyword? Very interesting. I'm feeling turn one Delver, turn two exalted goon, attack with flipped delver for four. Awesome.
Return of {rafiq if the many} delver swings for 4 w/ doublestrike...
Don't forget to strap him with all sorts of nastys
Quote from: Greg54js on May 25, 2012, 08:47:17 AM
Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 25, 2012, 03:03:22 AM
Exalted as a keyword? Very interesting. I'm feeling turn one Delver, turn two exalted goon, attack with flipped delver for four. Awesome.
Return of {rafiq if the many} delver swings for 4 w/ doublestrike...
Oh man, Bant Delver would be sweet! Hmmmmm.
In the trailer it revealed the plainswalkers, will those planeswalker be 100% in m13 or is it only for DotP? Because if they are then I'm stocking up on {liliana vess} because she would be the only one in standard to be a true miracle enabler.
Quote from: Clearmario on May 25, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
In the trailer it revealed the plainswalkers, will those planeswalker be 100% in m13 or is it only for DotP? Because if they are then I'm stocking up on {liliana vess} because she would be the only one in standard to be a true miracle enabler.
I would imagine it is Vess. I read somewhere that it will be a new Ajani though.
Quote from: Clearmario on May 25, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
In the trailer it revealed the plainswalkers, will those planeswalker be 100% in m13 or is it only for DotP? Because if they are then I'm stocking up on {liliana vess} because she would be the only one in standard to be a true miracle enabler.
There is usually a change of planeswalkers that represent white and black in media.
Blue is Jace, Red in Chandra, Green is Garruk. Black is Liliana/Sorin, White is Ajani/Elspeth/Gideon.
Others have represented single colors (Nissa for green, Koth for red, Tamiyo ect.)
That brief history aside, expect a new Ajani (goes perfectly against the Bolas theme) for white (white didn't get a planeswalker in the new block, ({Sorin, Lord of Innistrad} doesn't count). Don't count on a new Jace till Ravnica, Lilly just got a new card. Maybe a new Garruk, new Chandra.
Dude, Garruk Redeemed, g/w, calling it now
Servant of Nefarox. 2B
Human Cleric
Exalted
3/1
Nefarox, Lord of Grixis. 4BB
Legendary Creature - Demon
Flying, Exalted
Whenever a creature attacks alone defending player sacrifices a creature.
5/5
Quote from: Leviathan on May 26, 2012, 02:26:02 AM
Nefarox, Lord of Grixis. 4BB
Legendary Creature - Demon
Flying, Exalted
Whenever a creature attacks alone defending player sacrifices a creature.
5/5
You making these up or are they real spoilers?
Real sir
Where are they listed?
mtgsalvation
Why isn't nefarox mythic? Aren't most newer legendaries mythics?
Quote from: Greg54js on May 26, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
Why isn't nefarox mythic? Aren't most newer legendaries mythics?
Mostly, but that beside the point, there are not usually legendaries in core sers
Quote from: darkarts981 on May 26, 2012, 05:04:22 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on May 26, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
Why isn't nefarox mythic? Aren't most newer legendaries mythics?
Mostly, but that beside the point, there are not usually legendaries in core sers
10th Ed.?
he said usually not never
Derp lol
It isn't officially spoiled but I have a feeling we are going to see {Silent Arbiter}.
Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis is confirmed
Where do you find these spoilers?
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 28, 2012, 05:41:21 PM
Where do you find these spoilers?
Mtgsalvation and magicspoilers
Okay thanks!
Quote from: Leviathan on May 28, 2012, 04:01:18 PM
It isn't officially spoiled but I have a feeling we are going to see {Silent Arbiter}.
I think you may be right! I have a screenshot of DotP that has a {Silent Arbiter} in the hand.
Check it out, zoom in on the hand at the bottom:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131411&d=1337791716
Quote from: SpiritedAway on May 30, 2012, 10:51:26 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on May 28, 2012, 04:01:18 PM
It isn't officially spoiled but I have a feeling we are going to see {Silent Arbiter}.
I think you may be right! I have a screenshot of DotP that has a {Silent Arbiter} in the hand.
Check it out, zoom in on the hand at the bottom:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131411&d=1337791716
Good ole {Silent Arbiter} lol
Quote from: darkarts981 on May 28, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis is confirmed
If he's overlord of grixis, why is he a black creature and not multicolored?
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 30, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: darkarts981 on May 28, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis is confirmed
If he's overlord of grixis, why is he a black creature and not multicolored?
Thats a good question. Lol
Quote from: Sagemaster on May 30, 2012, 05:21:27 PM
Quote from: darkarts981 on May 28, 2012, 05:37:21 PM
Nefarox, Overlord of Grixis is confirmed
If he's overlord of grixis, why is he a black creature and not multicolored?
WotC tends not to add new themes to core sets. If you see a multicolored card it will most likely be a reprint.
In an effort to make core sets appealing to us old dogs, they are adding small new themes to them now (Illusions, Bloodthirst). They are trying to keep multi-colored spells lower to keep things simple for newer players and to make it more special when they DO multi-colored spells. Besides, with Rav coming up, it wouldn't surprise me to see one or two multi-colored spells in M13.
Plus, there were plenty of mono-colored inhabitants of Shards.
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 06:02:10 PM
In an effort to make core sets appealing to us old dogs, they are adding small new themes to them now (Illusions, Bloodthirst). They are trying to keep multi-colored spells lower to keep things simple for newer players and to make it more special when they DO multi-colored spells. Besides, with Rav coming up, it wouldn't surprise me to see one or two multi-colored spells in M13.
Plus, there were plenty of mono-colored inhabitants of Shards.
Think we will ever see Storm again?
Quote from: Leviathan on May 30, 2012, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 06:02:10 PM
In an effort to make core sets appealing to us old dogs, they are adding small new themes to them now (Illusions, Bloodthirst). They are trying to keep multi-colored spells lower to keep things simple for newer players and to make it more special when they DO multi-colored spells. Besides, with Rav coming up, it wouldn't surprise me to see one or two multi-colored spells in M13.
Plus, there were plenty of mono-colored inhabitants of Shards.
Think we will ever see Storm again?
I wouldn't say never, but it was a VERY high powered mechanic that lead to some brokenness. I don't know if they can bring it back in a way that would be less powerful without ticking off old timers. Maybe.
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 06:37:02 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on May 30, 2012, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 06:02:10 PM
In an effort to make core sets appealing to us old dogs, they are adding small new themes to them now (Illusions, Bloodthirst). They are trying to keep multi-colored spells lower to keep things simple for newer players and to make it more special when they DO multi-colored spells. Besides, with Rav coming up, it wouldn't surprise me to see one or two multi-colored spells in M13.
Plus, there were plenty of mono-colored inhabitants of Shards.
Think we will ever see Storm again?
I wouldn't say never, but it was a VERY high powered mechanic that lead to some brokenness. I don't know if they can bring it back in a way that would be less powerful without ticking off old timers. Maybe.
As long as it never made it on to a finisher card (I.e. {Grapeshot}/{Tendrils of Agony}) I could see it being doable. Only time will tell.
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 06:37:02 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on May 30, 2012, 06:16:11 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on May 30, 2012, 06:02:10 PM
In an effort to make core sets appealing to us old dogs, they are adding small new themes to them now (Illusions, Bloodthirst). They are trying to keep multi-colored spells lower to keep things simple for newer players and to make it more special when they DO multi-colored spells. Besides, with Rav coming up, it wouldn't surprise me to see one or two multi-colored spells in M13.
Plus, there were plenty of mono-colored inhabitants of Shards.
Think we will ever see Storm again?
I wouldn't say never, but it was a VERY high powered mechanic that lead to some brokenness. I don't know if they can bring it back in a way that would be less powerful without ticking off old timers. Maybe.
As long as it never made it on to a finisher card (I.e. {Grapeshot}/{Tendrils of Agony}) I could see it being doable. Only time will tell.
I am just happy to see exalted. I think it is going to help mono black builds that focus on keeping the creature count on the BF low by controling the board and focuses on one big cheap flyerl like {demonic taskmaster} or {demonlord of ashmouth} to be the main beater.
They better reprint {torpor orb} tho.
They brought back {vampire nocturnus}
Quote from: Clearmario on May 31, 2012, 11:27:29 PM
They brought back {vampire nocturnus}
Good thing I own 4!!!!! It's on like that monkey who throws barrels at Mario!!!
Woot!!! {Primordial Hydra} :D
Don't worry...one {Cloudshift} and it's gone! :D
I would agree but it has to be a target creature you control...
as long as {Acestism} doesnt rotate to M13 ill be fine with the hydra...God i hate it ONLY cause of that hexproof regen my friend does
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 01, 2012, 02:01:19 AM
Don't worry...one {Cloudshift} and it's gone! :D
See he isn't THAT scary lol
Quote from: Leviathan on June 01, 2012, 02:18:21 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 01, 2012, 02:01:19 AM
Don't worry...one {Cloudshift} and it's gone! :D
See he isn't THAT scary lol
Your right!! He isnt scary if im controlling him :p "Exile Creature you control." yes theres easier ways to deal with it. Just the Hydra Ascetism combo just...ugh....
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 01, 2012, 02:23:15 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 01, 2012, 02:18:21 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 01, 2012, 02:01:19 AM
Don't worry...one {Cloudshift} and it's gone! :D
See he isn't THAT scary lol
Your right!! He isnt scary if im controlling him :p "Exile Creature you control." yes theres easier ways to deal with it. Just the Hydra Ascetism combo just...ugh....
Lol
I for one am excited for both m13 and the new ravnica release. Any one else going the PTQ?
I really like the blue legendary guy as a commander. I've been waiting to make a mono blue commander deck.
Here's the link:
http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20120601/qbipCUhA.png
Yessss
Quote from: SpiritedAway on June 02, 2012, 02:15:03 PM
I really like the blue legendary guy as a commander. I've been waiting to make a mono blue commander deck.
Here's the link:
http://s1.ipicture.ru/uploads/20120601/qbipCUhA.png
Not cool man, not cool. Mono blue is the douchiest of colors to have your commander be.
Returning:
{Jace, Memory Adept}
{Chandra, the Firebrand}
{Garruk, Primal Hunter}
{Captain of the Watch}
{Clone}
{Vampire Nocturnus}
{Primordial Hydra}
{Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker}
New:
{Dragon Hatchling}*
{Firewing Phoenix}*
{Flames of Firebrand}*
{Searing Spear}*
{Predatory Rampage}*
(Source: http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/magic2013/cig#)
{Clone}Ing time!! Ah im so glad there bringing he/she/it back
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 03, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
{Clone}Ing time!! Ah im so glad there bringing he/she/it back
It's not as good as {phantasmal image} or {phyrexian metamorph}
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 04, 2012, 01:17:38 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 03, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
{Clone}Ing time!! Ah im so glad there bringing he/she/it back
It's not as good as {phantasmal image} or {phyrexian metamorph}
We've likely seen the last of both of them. Paying life for mana = broken. And {Phantasmal Image} and his ability to kill legendaries for UU. WotC is moving towards a more creature heavy format, I don't think they enjoy the UU trade if you put out {Avacyn, Angel of Hope}
Quote from: Dudecore on June 04, 2012, 08:58:40 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 04, 2012, 01:17:38 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 03, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
{Clone}Ing time!! Ah im so glad there bringing he/she/it back
It's not as good as {phantasmal image} or {phyrexian metamorph}
We've likely seen the last of both of them. Paying life for mana = broken. And {Phantasmal Image} and his ability to kill legendaries for UU. WotC is moving towards a more creature heavy format, I don't think they enjoy the UU trade if you put out {Avacyn, Angel of Hope}
Yeah you don't even have to run red for {Gut Shot}, which can kill someone else's mana dork or champion early while you advance yourself. And phantasmal image is 1U so yeah you just have to splash blue a tiny bit to include it...it is really good.
{Titanic Growth} returns.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 04, 2012, 08:40:18 PM
{Titanic Growth} returns.
I'm more excited about {mind sculpt}. Mill might be making a come back
Quote from: Clearmario on June 04, 2012, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 04, 2012, 08:40:18 PM
{Titanic Growth} returns.
I'm more excited about {mind sculpt}. Mill might be making a come back
Pretty please I love ticking people off when you mill them to death!!! :D
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131960&d=1338849166
Jaces phantasm is gunna see a lot of play in my opinion
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 04, 2012, 11:33:54 PM
Jaces phantasm is gunna see a lot of play in my opinion
Delver who? Lol!
Ikr. I'd take a 5/5 flyer over a 3/2 flyer any day
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 04, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
Ikr. I'd take a 5/5 flyer over a 3/2 flyer any day
If {glimpse the unthinkable} comes back, that's a turn 2 5/5 flyer!
Ahhh yea!
Omomgyesss I am totally making a mill deck!! Mill in standard!!! :D
Booooooooo mill lol. Jace's Phantasm is GROOOOOOOSSSSSSS
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 04, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131960&d=1338849166
Epic, I had a feeling they would print some real mill cards. Mill needs more good stuff that does not cost 5 CMC. Wow Jaces Phantasm and {sewer nemesis} in my mill deck......good times 👍
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 06:53:01 AM
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 04, 2012, 11:24:02 PM
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=131960&d=1338849166
Epic, I had a feeling they would print some real mill cards. Mill needs more good stuff that does not cost 5 CMC. Wow Jaces Phantasm and {sewer nemesis} in my mill deck......good times 👍
AWWWWWW YEAHHHHHHH
turn 1:jaces phantasm
Turn 2: {glimpse the unthinkable}
Turn 3: {memory erosion}
Turn 4: {sewer nemesis}
Game
Jace's phantasm already seems OP. U for a 5/5 flyer? Ouch. I can't really read it. Also, it's an illusion ({Lord of the Unreal})
Quote from: Dudecore on June 05, 2012, 09:47:11 AM
Jace's phantasm already seems OP. U for a 4/4 flyer? Ouch
Correction 5/5 flyer ;)
Well now let's look what it takes to get that 5/5 flyer in standard.
T1 you play {jaces phantasm}
T2 you play {mind sculpt} and mill 7
T3 you play another mill like {thought scour} or 2 of if need be
My point is that a non-combo mill that slowly grinds has never really been a viable deck in competitive play. Cards like this may just make it feasible. Also, you won't see that 1 CMC flyer in any other deck than a slow grind mill deck.....you really need to revolve a deck around the guy to make it work and it is not like Delver where you can toss him in any variant that has a lot of spells.....you have to put this guy in a mill deck bottom line.
I hope they reprint {noble hiearch} given all the exalted stuff.
{Mind Crank} anyone?
Quote from: Leviathan on June 05, 2012, 05:22:20 PM
{Mind Crank} anyone?
Meh. How about for 2 artifact each player mills the top 3 cards of their library each upkeep. That'd be fun to see combos with.
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 09:54:26 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 05, 2012, 09:47:11 AM
Jace's phantasm already seems OP. U for a 4/4 flyer? Ouch
Correction 5/5 flyer ;)
Well now let's look what it takes to get that 5/5 flyer in standard.
T1 you play {jaces phantasm}
T2 you play {mind sculpt} and mill 7
T3 you play another mill like {thought scour} or 2 of if need be
My point is that a non-combo mill that slowly grinds has never really been a viable deck in competitive play. Cards like this may just make it feasible. Also, you won't see that 1 CMC flyer in any other deck than a slow grind mill deck.....you really need to revolve a deck around the guy to make it work and it is not like Delver where you can toss him in any variant that has a lot of spells.....you have to put this guy in a mill deck bottom line.
I think it's mill's equivalent to {Sexy Devil}.
Yeah it's probably not the best all-time card, but a 5/5 flying creature for 1 CMC, l like it more then {Vexing Devil}
Quote from: Dudecore on June 05, 2012, 06:36:47 PM
Yeah it's probably not the best all-time card, but a 5/5 flying creature for 1 CMC, l like it more then {Vexing Devil}
It's gonna be great in multiplayer! You can cast it and still leave mana open for control.
Whet does everyone think I'd going to go up the most?
{Vampire Nighthawk} is coming back T.T
Def getting a common/uncommon playset of this...lookin better each day! :D
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 05, 2012, 07:49:52 PM
Def getting a common/uncommon playset of this...lookin better each day! :D
Uncommon playset looks great
Vampires are makin a return looks like
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 05, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Vampires are makin a return looks like
That's cuz Team Jacob sucked so baaaaddd!!!!
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 08:18:14 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 05, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Vampires are makin a return looks like
That's cuz Team Jacob sucked so baaaaddd!!!!
I read that right when I was drinking water too. Your responsible for the cost of replacing the card that was suddenly spewed with water
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 05, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Vampires are makin a return looks like
Vampires are going to be ubiquitous to {B} as elves are to {G}.
Things is, {R} has goblins, {G} has elves, {W} has soldiers and now humans (but that may pass after AVR), and {B} has Vamps and Zombies, {U} doesn't really have any small agro tribe.
I'd like to see a serious goblin/elf tribal ramp up.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 05, 2012, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 05, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Vampires are makin a return looks like
Vampires are going to be ubiquitous to {B} as elves are to {G}.
Things is, {R} has goblins, {G} has elves, {W} has soldier and now humans (but that may pass after AVR), and {B} has Vamps and Zombie, {U} doesn't really have any small agro tribe.
Illusions are a small blue Aggro tribe
Quote from: Milo109 on June 05, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 08:18:14 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 05, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Vampires are makin a return looks like
That's cuz Team Jacob sucked so baaaaddd!!!!
I read that right when I was drinking water too. Your responsible for the cost of replacing the card that was suddenly spewed with water
Haha that's funny
Quote from: Milo109 on June 05, 2012, 08:23:51 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 08:18:14 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 05, 2012, 08:02:15 PM
Vampires are makin a return looks like
That's cuz Team Jacob sucked so baaaaddd!!!!
I read that right when I was drinking water too. Your responsible for the cost of replacing the card that was suddenly spewed with water
If he's responsible, it was a {black lotus} wasn't it ;P
http://i.imgur.com/Nbysu.png
Note the CMCs of the black and white walkers.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 05, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Nbysu.png
Note the CMCs of the black and white walkers.
Let's see here... 4 on the black, 3 on white. Not bad.
It was a black lotus from alpha that was signed.
Nicol, garruk, Chandra, lili, ajani, jace?
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 05, 2012, 08:54:35 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 05, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Nbysu.png
Note the CMCs of the black and white walkers.
Let's see here... 4 on the black, 3 on white. Not bad.
It looks like there's wings on the white one...
Well the black and white PWs appear to be the only new PWs.
I think it's still ajani bc it looks like his axe
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 05, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
I think it's still ajani bc it looks like his axe
^ This
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 05, 2012, 10:46:32 PM
I think it's still ajani bc it looks like his axe
sure but it has to be a new version since it has 3 CMC
Another version of ajani? Meh
Ajani being my favorite walker per storyline this excites me lol
Maybe it is a wing.... Can any1 say an Avacyn planeswalker... Hahaha. Jk. No way that'd happen
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 08:47:20 PM
Illusions are a small blue Aggro tribe
I think that's where they're going, but there's only three illusions in Standard right now.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 06, 2012, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 08:47:20 PM
Illusions are a small blue Aggro tribe
I think that's where they're going, but there's only three illusions in Standard right now.
There was a faerie spoiled so they could make faerie the blue tribe
Quote from: Clearmario on June 06, 2012, 12:51:57 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 06, 2012, 12:42:23 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 05, 2012, 08:47:20 PM
Illusions are a small blue Aggro tribe
I think that's where they're going, but there's only three illusions in Standard right now.
There was a faerie spoiled so they could make faerie the blue tribe
They were the blue go-to in Lorwyn/Shadowmoor block, haven't seen many since.
Return to Ravnicia Jace is gonna be Blue/White Jace. {Jace, Memory Adept} is gonna return in M13, Jace v4 will likely be Blue/White, or Blue/Black...i can't wait!!
Edit: Jace's Phantasm has the benefit of also being useable at most point in the game. Even minimal Milling, for U you can trade as a flying blocker, or trade for 5/5. I can't say it'll strictly be better then <x card>, but it'll be a good card.
Destroys my Vanilla test, which is how I rate cards
Bah! Too much Jace!
Quote from: BlackJester on June 06, 2012, 01:50:31 PM
Bah! Too much Jace!
Agreed... Sometimes it seems like the relationship WotC has with Jace is like Toddlers in Tiaras.
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 04, 2012, 11:42:52 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 04, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
Ikr. I'd take a 5/5 flyer over a 3/2 flyer any day
If {glimpse the unthinkable} comes back, that's a turn 2 5/5 flyer!
How? I don't understand
Quote from: Raven316 on June 06, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 04, 2012, 11:42:52 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 04, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
Ikr. I'd take a 5/5 flyer over a 3/2 flyer any day
If {glimpse the unthinkable} comes back, that's a turn 2 5/5 flyer!
How? I don't understand
The new {jace's phantasm} is a 1/1 flyer for 1 blue. But it gets +4/4 if an opponent has 10 or more cards in their GY. So T1 cast the phantasm......T2 cast glimpse to mill them for 10 and now you get the 5/5 flyer ;)
I have 8 open slots in my U/B mill deck for 4 of those and 4 of the new {mind sculpt} that mills for 7 and costs 1colorless and 1blue. I'm so excited and I just can't hide it......
^^^^^^^
what he said.
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 06, 2012, 09:20:10 PM
Quote from: Raven316 on June 06, 2012, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 04, 2012, 11:42:52 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 04, 2012, 11:38:23 PM
Ikr. I'd take a 5/5 flyer over a 3/2 flyer any day
If {glimpse the unthinkable} comes back, that's a turn 2 5/5 flyer!
How? I don't understand
The new {jace's phantasm} is a 1/1 flyer for 1 blue. But it gets +4/4 if an opponent has 10 or more cards in their GY. So T1 cast the phantasm......T2 cast glimpse to mill them for 10 and now you get the 5/5 flyer ;)
I have 8 open slots in my U/B mill deck for 4 of those and 4 of the new {mind sculpt} that mills for 7 and costs 1colorless and 1blue. I'm so excited and I just can't hide it......
Ik! I love mill. And btw, linking m13 doesn't work
Rod of Nin
6
Rare
Artifact
At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card.
Tap; Rod of Nin deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Poop rare
I kinda like that rare. It gives an extra draw and can ping off weenies. The mana cost is sucky but there are ways around that because it is an artifact.
It's a "Nin-rod". BWAHAHAHAHA
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 07, 2012, 10:52:12 AM
I kinda like that rare. It gives an extra draw and can ping off weenies. The mana cost is sucky but there are ways around that because it is an artifact.
{Divine Offering} hoses it. :(
Unless they don't reprint it.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 07, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 07, 2012, 10:52:12 AM
I kinda like that rare. It gives an extra draw and can ping off weenies. The mana cost is sucky but there are ways around that because it is an artifact.
{Divine Offering} hoses it. :(
Unless they don't reprint it.
There are lots of cards that hose artifacts. That doesn't stop people from playing them.
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 07, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 07, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 07, 2012, 10:52:12 AM
I kinda like that rare. It gives an extra draw and can ping off weenies. The mana cost is sucky but there are ways around that because it is an artifact.
{Divine Offering} hoses it. :(
Unless they don't reprint it.
There are lots of cards that hose artifacts. That doesn't stop people from playing them.
Troof
Well I mean, we were talking about picking off weenies...clearly all cards have a counter. Just {Divine Offering} rocks that card.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 07, 2012, 12:31:07 PM
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 07, 2012, 12:11:21 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 07, 2012, 11:37:41 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 07, 2012, 10:52:12 AM
I kinda like that rare. It gives an extra draw and can ping off weenies. The mana cost is sucky but there are ways around that because it is an artifact.
{Divine Offering} hoses it. :(
Unless they don't reprint it.
There are lots of cards that hose artifacts. That doesn't stop people from playing them.
Troof
Ya any artifact destroy will work. I'm just saying that it's use as an artifact is actually pretty good.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 07, 2012, 12:49:03 PM
Well I mean, we were talking about picking off weenies...clearly all cards have a counter. Just {Divine Offering} rocks that card.
True, but they won't be in the same Standard for long.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 07, 2012, 01:11:20 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 07, 2012, 12:49:03 PM
Well I mean, we were talking about picking off weenies...clearly all cards have a counter. Just {Divine Offering} rocks that card.
True, but they won't be in the same Standard for long.
But things like {ancient grudge} will be
True. Artifact hate will always be in any format because every format needs answers to everything. The point that I think {Dudecore} was making was it destroys the artifact and they gain 6 life to boot.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 07, 2012, 02:21:04 PM
True. Artifact hate will always be in any format because every format needs answers to everything. The point that I think {Dudecore} was making was it destroys the artifact and they gain 6 life to boot.
Wow...{Dudecore} links to the worst card I have ever seen. Talk about jank rares... :0
With what you've all seen so far of M13 there's no way you would be ecstatic to see that Ninrod when you open your first pack. It'd be all "ooh, rod of nin, this is.. Uh, okay, an expensive and weird take on {Throne of Empires} plus scepter I guess"
Quote from: Maximo on June 08, 2012, 03:45:25 AM
With what you've all seen so far of M13 there's no way you would be ecstatic to see that Ninrod when you open your first pack. It'd be all "ooh, rod of nin, this is.. Uh, okay, an expensive and weird take on {Throne of Empires} plus scepter I guess"
I'd be okay with it. Sure, it's too expensive to see much use in constructed formats, but it will still find a way to be useful somewhere. I know my card draw deck would find room for it. And hey, it'd still be better than the {Jar of Eyeballs} I got from my first DA pack.
At least the jar is funny and flavorful!
Ajani's Sunstriker. WW
Creature - Cat Cleric. Common
Lifelink
2/2
Rhox Faithmender. 3W
Creature - Rhino Cleric. Rare
Lifelink
Whenever you would gain life you gain double that much instead.
1/5
Quote from: Leviathan on June 08, 2012, 06:56:55 PM
Rhox Faithmender. 3W
Creature - Rhino Cleric. Rare
Lifelink
Whenever you would gain life you gain double that much instead.
1/5
Hmmmmmmmmm
Alls I gotta say is {Jace's Phantasm} plus {Bonehoard}. (not in response to rhino above)
Also, this guy will go straight into my {Doran, the Siege Tower} EDH deck.
Quote from: SpiritedAway on June 09, 2012, 04:29:47 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 08, 2012, 06:56:55 PM
Rhox Faithmender. 3W
Creature - Rhino Cleric. Rare
Lifelink
Whenever you would gain life you gain double that much instead.
1/5
Hmmmmmmmmm
Alls I gotta say is {Jace's Phantasm} plus {Bonehoard}. (not in response to rhino above)
Too bad {bonehoard} is gonna rotate:(
Quote from: Maximo on June 08, 2012, 03:59:21 AM
At least the jar is funny and flavorful!
I love my foil {Jar of Eyeballs}
Quote from: Leviathan on June 08, 2012, 06:56:55 PM
Rhox Faithmender. 3W
Creature - Rhino Cleric. Rare
Lifelink
Whenever you would gain life you gain double that much instead.
1/5
{Chalice of Life}
Quote from: Leviathan on June 08, 2012, 06:53:22 PM
Ajani's Sunstriker. WW
Creature - Cat Cleric. Common
Lifelink
2/2
This probably confirms Ajani as the new white planeswalker. I'm not an Ajani fan do watch him be the first mythic I pull.. Lol
I'm so antsy to see the new cards, to see if I should get the new core set....I wanna see some substantial stuff.
Youtube bluexephos e3 duels 2013.
Gives a few
If those are the rares in the intro packs, I can't admit to being thrilled. I'll hold my reservations until everything is spoiled. So far, only Jace's Phantasm interests me. And:
Yeva, Nature's Herald. 2GG
Type: Legendary Creature - Elf, Shaman
Rarity: Rare
Flash
You may cast green creature cards as though they had flash.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 09, 2012, 11:10:06 PM
If those are the rares in the intro packs, I can't admit to being thrilled. I'll hold my reservations until everything is spoiled. So far, only Jace's Phantasm interests me. And:
Yeva, Nature's Herald. 2GG
Type: Legendary Creature - Elf, Shaman
Rarity: Rare
Flash
You may cast green creature cards as though they had flash.
My mono green likes
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on June 09, 2012, 10:54:12 PM
Youtube bluexephos e3 duels 2013.
Gives a few
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6mfmpbOev4&feature=relmfu ^_^
Duel of the pw on the ipad
Krenko's command
1R
Sorcery
Put 2 1/1 red goblin creature tokens onto the battlefield
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 11, 2012, 12:44:42 AM
Did u guys see that red sorcery, forget what it's called but it's-
1R
Sorcery
Put 2 1/1 red goblin creature tokens onto the battlefield
If its a reprint, it could be {dragon fodder}
No, it's not exactly a reprint it's just really similar.
Krenko, mob boss
2RR
Lengendary creature-goblin warrior. Rare
Tap- put X 1/1 red goblin creature tokens onto the battlefield, where X is the number of goblins you control
3/3
{Krenko's Command}
It's here:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/mm/199
Functionally equivalent to {Dragon Fodder}, so you can play 8, if you're into that sort of thing.
Sublime angel
2WW
Creature- angel. Mythic rare
Flying
Exalted
Other creatures you controll have exalted
4/3
These 3 are the start of the official spoilers by wizards. I'm so building a goblin deck
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 11, 2012, 02:41:16 PM
Sublime angel
2WW
Creature- angel. Mythic rare
Flying
Exalted
Other creatures you controll have exalted
OHHHH MYYYYY AHGODDDDDDDD!
That is the reason I will get anything from M13 besides jaces phantasm.
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 11, 2012, 02:40:11 PM
Krenko, mob boss
2RR
Lengendary creature-goblin warrior. Rare
Tap- put X 1/1 red goblin creature tokens onto the battlefield, where X is the number of goblins you control
3/3
HOLY MONKEY BUTTS!!! It's a cheaper, stronger {Marrow-Gnawer} for moggs without the drawback of sacrificing. Whoop Whoop!
Quote from: BlackJester on June 11, 2012, 02:45:07 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 11, 2012, 02:40:11 PM
Krenko, mob boss
2RR
Lengendary creature-goblin warrior. Rare
Tap- put X 1/1 red goblin creature tokens onto the battlefield, where X is the number of goblins you control
3/3
HOLY MONKEY BUTTS!!! It's a cheaper, stronger {Marrow-Gnawer} for moggs without the drawback of sacrificing. Whoop Whoop!
Holy monkey butts is right! I retract my previous statement. I am definately getting M13
I wanna playset of m13 now. :P
T1- {goblin arsonist}
T2- {krenko command}
T3- {goblin chieftain}
T4- {krenko, mob boss}
Make a lot of goblins and swing for 25 points of damage!!!!
Talrand's Invocation
2UU
Sorcery
Uncommon
Put 2 2/2 blue drake creature tokens with flying onto the battlefield
Yeva's Forcemage
2G
Creature- Elf shaman
Common
When yeva's Forcemage enters the battlefield, target creature gets +2/+2 until the end of turn
2/2
Talrand, Sky Summoner
2UU
Legendary creature- Merfolk wizard
Rare
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, put a 2/2 blue drake creature token with flying onto the battlefield
2/2
Yeva, Nature's herald
2GG
Legendary creature-elf shaman
Rare
Flash
You may cast other green creature cards as though they had flash
4/4
Could we be seeing the return of a heavily tribal standard format? We can only hope :)
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 12, 2012, 12:28:02 AM
Talrand, Sky Summoner
2UU
Legendary creature- Merfolk wizard
Rare
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, put a 2/2 blue drake creature token onto the battlefield
2/2
This see standard for play for sure.
{lingering souls} equals 2 1/1 spirits and a 2/2 drake. Oh yeah. {think twice} draw a card put a 2/2 drake into play too? Get em while you can kids.
It's a drake with flying btw 😄
worldfire?!? WTF?!? theres no way to cast that
http://t.co/2BEy0BHE
Quote from: Greg54js on June 12, 2012, 12:05:50 PM
worldfire?!? WTF?!? theres no way to cast that
http://t.co/2BEy0BHE
{galvanoth} + {worlds fire}
Main phase: {raging goblin} swing. Win.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 12, 2012, 12:05:50 PM
worldfire?!? WTF?!? theres no way to cast that
http://t.co/2BEy0BHE
{galvanoth} + {worlds fire}
Main phase: {raging goblin} swing. Win.
You can cast it pretty easily in Vintage Multiplayer, which is who this is for, I'm sure. {Mana Flare}, {Seething Song}, {Mana Geyser}, even {Arcane Melee}.
It's not going to see any table time in Standard, IMO.
{Worldgorger Dragon} anyone? Even {Soulgorger Orgg} would be funny. O-ring a hasty guy.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 12, 2012, 12:33:39 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 12:15:42 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 12, 2012, 12:05:50 PM
worldfire?!? WTF?!? theres no way to cast that
http://t.co/2BEy0BHE
{galvanoth} + {worlds fire}
Main phase: {raging goblin} swing. Win.
You can cast it pretty easily in Vintage Multiplayer, which is who this is for, I'm sure. {Mana Flare}, {Seething Song}, {Mana Geyser}, even {Arcane Melee}.
It's not going to see any table time in Standard, IMO.
{Worldgorger Dragon} anyone? Even {Soulgorger Orgg} would be funny. O-ring a hasty guy.
For standard, this could be used with a goblin deck and used for that new goblin boss. Then {battle hymn}
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
For standard, this could be used with a goblin deck and used for that new goblin boss. Then {battle hymn}
Okay, but then what? Next hit wins? I don't know if goblins would have a game plan for this except praying for a better draw than your opponent.
It looks like a Johnny card to me, and I want some.
Suspend, EOT blink, {Fiend Hunter} effects.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 12, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
For standard, this could be used with a goblin deck and used for that new goblin boss. Then {battle hymn}
Okay, but then what? Next hit wins? I don't know if goblins would have a game plan for this except praying for a better draw than your opponent.
It looks like a Johnny card to me, and I want some.
Suspend, EOT blink, {Fiend Hunter} effects.
See above, most of these core sets have included rage gob.
{misthollow griffin} cast it from exile ftw
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 12, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
{misthollow griffin} cast it from exile ftw
Summoning suckness.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 01:54:55 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 12, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
For standard, this could be used with a goblin deck and used for that new goblin boss. Then {battle hymn}
Okay, but then what? Next hit wins? I don't know if goblins would have a game plan for this except praying for a better draw than your opponent.
It looks like a Johnny card to me, and I want some.
Suspend, EOT blink, {Fiend Hunter} effects.
See above, most of these core sets have included rage gob.
Sure, but you now have no land or cards in hand. Everyone is top-decking at that point.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 12, 2012, 01:56:11 PM
{misthollow griffin} cast it from exile ftw
Summoning suckness.
You still get a creature out, and you can kill em the next turn
I think Quackmaster5 had probably the only strat with that one: blow up the world and hope you recover faster than your enemy with a cheap goblin, direct damage, or {Sexy Devil} at that point.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 12, 2012, 02:13:23 PM
I think Quackmaster5 had probably the only strat with that one: blow up the world and hope you recover faster than your enemy with a cheap goblin, direct damage, or {Sexy Devil} at that point.
It was worth a shot. 😄 I forgot about the not having land or a hand part. Damn. You would need a MIRACLE! Thunderous wrath anyone? Lmao. Ponder one turn, worlds fire the next, land, then wrath
Two words: {Greater Gargadon} ;D
Quote from: BlackJester on June 12, 2012, 02:36:53 PM
Two words: {Greater Gargadon} ;D
You just gave me a brilliant idea!!!!
Suspend {infiltrator il-kor}
Next turn, worlds fire
Next turn, shadow 3/1 for the win!
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 02:49:06 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 12, 2012, 02:36:53 PM
Two words: {Greater Gargadon} ;D
You just gave me a brilliant idea!!!!
Suspend {infiltrator il-kor}
Next turn, worlds fire
Next turn, shadow 3/1 for the win!
Sure. I was thinking that you could sac all your stuff so that you leave on counter on the GG and then your next turn, it's gg. ;)
What if you had a {goblin arsonist} on the BF? Cast the {destroy everything in the world card} and the arsonist deals the final dmg to the opponent.
Edit: NM says exile......stooopid card
You need something that says "leaves play" if you wanna go out with a last bang. Otherwise, suspend and waiting seem to be the only options.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 12, 2012, 01:47:56 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 12, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
For standard, this could be used with a goblin deck and used for that new goblin boss. Then {battle hymn}
Okay, but then what? Next hit wins? I don't know if goblins would have a game plan for this except praying for a better draw than your opponent.
It looks like a Johnny card to me, and I want some.
Suspend, EOT blink, {Fiend Hunter} effects.
Idk. O-ring your own haste creature? Then blow everything up. Card seems kinda lame to me. IMO.
{Elderscale Wurm}
Creature- Wurm
7/7
When EW enters the battlefield, if your life total is less than 7, it becomes 7.
As long as you have 7 or more life, damage that would reduce your life total to less than seven reduces it to 7 instead.
😱 is this card as awesome as I think it is? By that I mean is it a better {Platinum Emperion}? Can you use phyrexian mana for free? :O
With all the cats coming out, I might make a casual cat tribal deck
Quote from: Harmon1c on June 12, 2012, 06:20:16 PM
{Elderscale Wurm}
Creature- Wurm
7/7
When EW enters the battlefield, if your life total is less than 7, it becomes 7.
As long as you have 7 or more life, damage that would reduce your life total to less than seven reduces it to 7 instead.
😱 is this card as awesome as I think it is? By that I mean is it a better {Platinum Emperion}? Can you use phyrexian mana for free? :O
Phyrexian mana does not deal damage to you.
😞 I was afraid of that.
Woo!! $20 wurm anyone?
Odric, Master Tactician
2WW
Legendary Creature - Human Soldier
3/4
First strike
Whenever Odric, Master Tactician and at least three other creatures attack, you choose which creatures block this combat and how those creatures block.
Talrand, Sky Summoner
2UU
Legendary Creature - Merfolk Wizard
2/2
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell, put a 2/2 blue Drake creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
I want to make a casual W/U deck with 2 or 3 of each of these. And lotsa token-making and "anthems". And I'll keep it Standard.
Odric, you are my hero!!!!! I was wondering what was goin to be a suitable replacement for {hero of bladehold}......cuz {riders of gavony} just did not quite meet her standard set.
{Rancor} is getting reprinted!
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
{Rancor} is getting reprinted!
You just made my day!!!! First time I've smiled all day!
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 13, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
{Rancor} is getting reprinted!
You just made my day!!!! First time I've smiled all day!
Your welcome lol.... Art rocks btw.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 13, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
{Rancor} is getting reprinted!
You just made my day!!!! First time I've smiled all day!
Your welcome lol.... Art rocks btw.
Where is everyone getting these spoilers?
https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/484317_477306942284476_1862011095_n.jpg?dl=1
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 13, 2012, 09:48:26 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 13, 2012, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 08:58:09 PM
{Rancor} is getting reprinted!
You just made my day!!!! First time I've smiled all day!
Your welcome lol.... Art rocks btw.
Where is everyone getting these spoilers?
I get mine from several places. Mostly mtgsalvation.com and castlesandcooks.com
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
https://fbcdn-photos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/484317_477306942284476_1862011095_n.jpg?dl=1
Amazing! I'm so excited. Definately one of the most useful cards in the game. I try to run it as much as possible but I only have 4 😔
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 13, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 09:48:30 PM
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Amazing! I'm so excited. Definately one of the most useful cards in the game. I try to run it as much as possible but I only have 4 😔
Come July that'll change I'm sure. Lol
{rancor} yay!!!!
MTGspoilers.com
M13 may cause many bills to go unpaid...
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Cathedral of War is sick.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Cathedral of War is sick.
Dude that's friken legit
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:52:48 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Cathedral of War is sick.
Dude that's friken legit
Cathedral of War is the Buy-A-Box promo
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:52:48 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Cathedral of War is sick.
Dude that's friken legit
Cathedral of War is the Buy-A-Box promo
1. Sweet, ima try and get a box
2. How do you know that already?
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:58:29 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:52:48 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Cathedral of War is sick.
Dude that's friken legit
Cathedral of War is the Buy-A-Box promo
1. Sweet, ima try and get a box
2. How do you know that already?
I am a man with a certain set of skills... And I frequent just about every magic forum, rumor mill, announcement board, and insider spot you can think of.
Haha. Nice!
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 01:02:49 AM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:58:29 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:52:48 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Cathedral of War is sick.
Dude that's friken legit
Cathedral of War is the Buy-A-Box promo
1. Sweet, ima try and get a box
2. How do you know that already?
I am a man with a certain set of skills... And I frequent just about every magic forum, rumor mill, announcement board, and insider spot you can think of.
Nice taken quote!!
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 14, 2012, 06:28:59 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 01:02:49 AM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:58:29 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 14, 2012, 12:52:48 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:48:20 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 14, 2012, 12:47:47 AM
http://castlesandcooks.com/2012/06/14/im-out-of-witty-things-to-say-about-magic-2013-spoilers/
Cathedral of War is sick.
Dude that's friken legit
Cathedral of War is the Buy-A-Box promo
1. Sweet, ima try and get a box
2. How do you know that already?
I am a man with a certain set of skills... And I frequent just about every magic forum, rumor mill, announcement board, and insider spot you can think of.
Nice taken quote!!
Glad somebody noticed lol
{sands of delirium} is nice! Mill, mill, mill, mill, and then mill some more!
Time to dust off all my Urza's Legacy Rancors, mint!
Quote from: Leviathan on June 13, 2012, 10:51:20 PM
M13 may cause many bills to go unpaid...
NO FOOD I NEED {JACE}!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Chuckoir on June 14, 2012, 08:22:09 PM
Time to dust off all my Urza's Legacy Rancors, mint!
How bout it.
{Murder} was the case that they gave me.
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/3h76ns0thm_en.jpg)
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
I'm trumpeting a {Mana Leak} return. Constructed without it is just increasing creature threats with no drawbacks.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
This is true, and while it's so cool, its gonna be a planeswalker that it is difficult to play. She can't really defend herself, and her Ultimate will Ultimately kill her. I see her second ability, but for 4CMC, she dies defending herself.
Not unplayable, but I'm INB4 "omg rediculous". Probably where a PW should be in terms of power and flexibility, but ultimately needs help defending herself, therefore isn't super playable unless broken.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
I just defecated within my undergarments
Quote from: Dudecore on June 15, 2012, 12:57:32 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
This is true, and while it's so cool, its gonna be a planeswalker that it is difficult to play. She can't really defend herself, and her Ultimate will Ultimately kill her. I see her second ability, but for 4CMC, she dies defending herself.
Not unplayable, but I'm INB4 "omg rediculous". Probably where a PW should be in terms of power and flexibility, but ultimately needs help defending herself, therefore isn't super playable unless broken.
Her ultimate may ultimately kill her. Bit it's amazing IMO. Black ramp decks any1? Three chears for {grislebrand} seeing play
Wizards make a different swamp planeswalker. Thatals the third lily.
:(
I still like it ;)
Stuffy Doll is back!!!! Can't wait to play it with {Blasphemous Act} :D
Quote from: Thorn on June 15, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
Wizards make a different swamp planeswalker. Thatals the third lily.
:(
I still like it ;)
How many Jaces, Chandras, and Garruks are there? She's just catching up. ;)
Quote from: Zingaiya on June 15, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
Stuffy Doll is back!!!! Can't wait to play it with {Blasphemous Act} :D
I sweat if they reprint {pariah} we're all in trouble... :(
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:06:53 PM
Quote from: Thorn on June 15, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
Wizards make a different swamp planeswalker. Thatals the third lily.
:(
I still like it ;)
How many Jaces, Chandras, and Garruks are there? She's just catching up. ;)
Lol
Is there a daily mtg article about her?
Quote from: Thorn on June 15, 2012, 01:11:56 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:06:53 PM
Quote from: Thorn on June 15, 2012, 10:33:11 AM
Wizards make a different swamp planeswalker. Thatals the third lily.
:(
I still like it ;)
How many Jaces, Chandras, and Garruks are there? She's just catching up. ;)
Lol
Is there a daily mtg article about her?
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/199
Wool. Ajani just spoiled
Ajani, caller of the pride
1WW
Mythic
Planeswalker-ajani
+1 put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature
-3 target creature gains flying and double strike until the end of turn
-8 put X 2/2 white cat creature tokens onto the battlefield, where X is your life total
Starts with 4 loyalty
Ugh, finally get one PW away from having them all, then bam, new ones! Oh the money I will spend...
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 15, 2012, 01:59:11 PM
Wool. Ajani just spoiled
Ajani, caller of the pride
1WW
Mythic
Planeswalker-ajani
+1 put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature
-3 target creature gains flying and double strike until the end of turn
-8 put X 2/2 white cat creature tokens onto the battlefield, where X is your life total
Starts with 4 loyalty
Just saw ajani and I JIZZED. IN. MY. PANTS!!!!
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 15, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
Just saw ajani and I JIZZED. IN. MY. PANTS!!!!
Are you sure it wasn't 'cause you ate a grape?
XD
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 05:13:12 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 15, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
Just saw ajani and I JIZZED. IN. MY. PANTS!!!!
Are you sure it wasn't 'cause you ate a grape?
XD
Just made my day
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 15, 2012, 05:14:16 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 05:13:12 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 15, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
Just saw ajani and I JIZZED. IN. MY. PANTS!!!!
Are you sure it wasn't 'cause you ate a grape?
XD
Just made my day
Favorite one is "when Bruce Willis was dead at the end of sixth sense...."
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
{korlash heir to the blackblade} meet your new girlfriend. And yes Korlash you can bring your horse {nightmare} and you weapon of choice {lashwrithe}
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
It is quickly seeming that I will be purchasing a box of this set....
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 15, 2012, 06:49:26 PM
{korlash heir to the blackblade} meet your new girlfriend. And yes Korlash you can bring your horse {nightmare} and you weapon of choice {lashwrithe}
Careful, you don't want to {corrupt} the poor thing.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 15, 2012, 06:49:26 PM
{korlash heir to the blackblade} meet your new girlfriend. And yes Korlash you can bring your horse {nightmare} and you weapon of choice {lashwrithe}
Careful, you don't want to {corrupt} the poor thing.
ICWATUDIDTHR
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 15, 2012, 01:59:11 PM
Wool. Ajani just spoiled
Ajani, caller of the pride
1WW
Mythic
Planeswalker-ajani
+1 put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature
-3 target creature gains flying and double strike until the end of turn
-8 put X 2/2 white cat creature tokens onto the battlefield, where X is your life total
Starts with 4 loyalty
Probably the first PW I looked at and said "I must own this card!"
Quote from: Leviathan on June 15, 2012, 07:48:51 PM
Quote from: GoJuDragon on June 15, 2012, 01:59:11 PM
Wool. Ajani just spoiled
Ajani, caller of the pride
1WW
Mythic
Planeswalker-ajani
+1 put a +1/+1 counter on up to one target creature
-3 target creature gains flying and double strike until the end of turn
-8 put X 2/2 white cat creature tokens onto the battlefield, where X is your life total
Starts with 4 loyalty
Probably the first PW I looked at and said "I must own this card!"
Agreed
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
I'm totaly making a deck with
{Geralf's Messenger}
{Pyrexian Oblitorator}
{Drain Life}
{Corrupt}
{Nightmare}
{Our favorite Lily^^} (probbably all 3)
{Swamp} ;P
{Necropotence}
{Geth's Verdict}
{Grislebrand}
mono black is so cool!
Quote from: Thorn on June 15, 2012, 08:32:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
I'm totaly making a deck with
{Geralf's Messenger}
{Pyrexian Oblitorator}
{Drain Life}
{Corrupt}
{Nightmare}
{Our favorite Lily^^} (probbably all 3)
{Swamp} ;P
{Necropotence}
{Geth's Verdict}
{Grislebrand}
mono black is so cool!
{sign in blood}
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
This is just asking for a one of mountain fetched with {Evolving Wilds}.
{Red Sun's Zenith}
{Devils's Play}
😜
Quote from: darkarts981 on June 17, 2012, 02:00:31 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
This is just asking for a one of mountain fetched with {Evolving Wilds}.
{Red Sun's Zenith}
{Devils's Play}
😜
Toss in a few duals instead :p and add {bonfire of the damned} O.O
Ajani is gonna go great in my delver deck!!
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 17, 2012, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Ajani is gonna go great in my delver deck!!
👎 delver
I know y'all guys hate delver that's why I said it.
I've never seen so much hate for a deck before. I'm curious bc I have a delver deck but not nearly to the extent people have used it for. And my friends don't play them. So i guess I should get my ass beat by one to really feel that hate?
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 17, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 17, 2012, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Ajani is gonna go great in my delver deck!!
👎 delver
I know y'all guys hate delver that's why I said it.
I've never seen so much hate for a deck before. I'm curious bc I have a delver deck but not nearly to the extent people have used it for. And my friends don't play them. So i guess I should get my ass beat by one to really feel that hate?
I don't understand the hate either. It's not like it's Cawblade. The deck can be beat. It's also fun to play.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 06:21:59 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 17, 2012, 06:14:57 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 06:03:34 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 17, 2012, 05:58:56 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Ajani is gonna go great in my delver deck!!
👎 delver
I know y'all guys hate delver that's why I said it.
I've never seen so much hate for a deck before. I'm curious bc I have a delver deck but not nearly to the extent people have used it for. And my friends don't play them. So i guess I should get my ass beat by one to really feel that hate?
I don't understand the hate either. It's not like it's Cawblade. The deck can be beat. It's also fun to play.
I'm pretty sure (based on people that I know) that people only really dislike decks that they dint really know how to beat
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Ajani is gonna go great in my delver deck!!
With a {Sun Titan}?
Lol, I say👎 delver and it turns into "people who can't beat it hate it, everyone hates it"
I do love to stir the pot.
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 17, 2012, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 17, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
Ajani is gonna go great in my delver deck!!
With a {Sun Titan}?
No {sun Titan} but making {Giest of saint Traft} have flying and double strike is gonna be fun tho. 😜
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 17, 2012, 06:35:11 PM
Lol, I say👎 delver and it turns into "people who can't beat it hate it, everyone hates it"
I do love to stir the pot.
I was just basing that off of people that I know. Like my freind who hates wolf run, simply because 3 out of 4 times he loses to it!
Quote from: GoJuDragon on May 23, 2012, 06:36:12 PM
Where r the spoilers? I wnna see em
I get them from MTG salvation
Quote from: Greg54js on May 26, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
Why isn't nefarox mythic? Aren't most newer legendaries mythics?
Cause vampire nocturnous is better
Quote from: Trevor on June 18, 2012, 11:58:33 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on May 26, 2012, 01:40:42 PM
Why isn't nefarox mythic? Aren't most newer legendaries mythics?
Cause vampire nocturnous is better
this, also all of the legendaries in this set are at rare
Moar spoilerzz!
Diabolic Revelation X3BB
Sorcery- rare
Search your library for up to X cards and put those cards into your hand, then shuffle your library
Nefarox, overlord of Grixis (official spoiler)
4BB
Legendary creature- demon. Rare
Flying
Exalted
Whenever nefarox attacks alone, defending player sacrifices a creature
5/5
Captains call 3W
Sorcery- common
Put three 1/1 white soldier creature tokens onto the battlefield
I like how there's a real distinction between {W} having a bunch of little guys and {B} having a few big baddies in the M13 that falls inline with AVR too.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 18, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
I like how there's a real distinction between {W} having a bunch of little guys and {B} having a few big baddies in the M13 that falls inline with AVR too.
Reminds me of the good ol' days.
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on June 18, 2012, 03:24:41 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 18, 2012, 03:05:41 PM
I like how there's a real distinction between {W} having a bunch of little guys and {B} having a few big baddies in the M13 that falls inline with AVR too.
Reminds me of the good ol' days.
True, true. I do like that each color can have it's own aggro strat now.
Waitin on the land
Quote from: Leviathan on June 18, 2012, 06:23:39 PM
Waitin on the land
Truth. Think that's the big reveal.
Sure peeps have already said this, but holy crappers, {Liliana of the Dark Realms} is OP. Best black mana ramp card since {cabal coffers}... her and {nightmare} are gonna be a freaking {nightmare}... thinking about making a deck with her and {nirkana revenant}, {nightmare}, etc. WOO!
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on June 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Sure peeps have already said this, but holy crappers, {Liliana of the Dark Realms} is OP. Best black mana ramp card since {cabal coffers}... her and {nightmare} are gonna be a freaking {nightmare}... thinking about making a deck with her and {nirkana revenant}, {nightmare}, etc. WOO!
She isn't OP at all. She's barely playable so far. 4 mana for 3 loyalty, she can't defend herself, and it's 4 turns before she can ultimate. I wanna steal her with {zealous conscripts} and ultimate, even if I'm not using black.
But seriously, she is probably where a planeswalker should be in terms of power. The days of {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} style planeswalkers is over.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 18, 2012, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on June 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Sure peeps have already said this, but holy crappers, {Liliana of the Dark Realms} is OP. Best black mana ramp card since {cabal coffers}... her and {nightmare} are gonna be a freaking {nightmare}... thinking about making a deck with her and {nirkana revenant}, {nightmare}, etc. WOO!
She isn't OP at all. She's barely playable so far. 4 mana for 3 loyalty, she can't defend herself, and it's 4 turns before she can ultimate. I wanna steal her with {zealous conscripts} and ultimate, even if I'm not using black.
But seriously, she is probably where a planeswalker should be in terms of power. The days of {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} style planeswalkers is over.
Sadly
Quote from: Milo109 on June 18, 2012, 06:55:07 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 18, 2012, 06:41:51 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on June 18, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
Sure peeps have already said this, but holy crappers, {Liliana of the Dark Realms} is OP. Best black mana ramp card since {cabal coffers}... her and {nightmare} are gonna be a freaking {nightmare}... thinking about making a deck with her and {nirkana revenant}, {nightmare}, etc. WOO!
She isn't OP at all. She's barely playable so far. 4 mana for 3 loyalty, she can't defend herself, and it's 4 turns before she can ultimate. I wanna steal her with {zealous conscripts} and ultimate, even if I'm not using black.
But seriously, she is probably where a planeswalker should be in terms of power. The days of {Jace, the Mind Sculptor} style planeswalkers is over.
Sadly
Sadly?
No one card should be as imposing, powerful, and meta-altering as {Jace, the Mind Sculpter} was. She is were a PW should be AT BEST.
Lol new ajani is so boss.
Flying and double strike for 3 mana would be a decent sorcery alone...but a plainswalker for that much?? Yes please.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 18, 2012, 10:58:33 PM
Lol new ajani is so boss.
Flying and double strike for 3 mana would be a decent sorcery alone...but a plainswalker for that much?? Yes please.
Seems quite a bit more playable to me. Like he might actually sneak into some white decks because of it.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 15, 2012, 12:43:00 AM
i <3 Lili!!!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/0946f4jzqv_en.jpg)
Will only be standard together for a very short time but her with {Exsanguinate}...
Who needs red?
DUDE!!!!!! I like that combo
{Killing Wave} also. {Devils Play}, {Entreat the Angels}, {Kessig Wolf Run} (for Jund). I think it it's not a good card, but in a casual multiplayer group, maybe??
Quote from: Dudecore on June 20, 2012, 05:31:13 PM
{Killing Wave} also. {Devils Play}, {Entreat the Angels}, {Kessig Wolf Run} (for Jund). I think it it's not a good card, but in a casual multiplayer group, maybe??
That is how I feel about most PWs
Magmaquake looks sic..
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=132617&d=1340285393
Omniscience and Thundermaw Hellkite look DISGUSTING
Just preordered from my LGS. I'm pumped.
I ordered a fat pack, the 5 intro decks and Planechase 2012. The set doesnt interest me, because I kinda figure at very best, the shock lands will come back (as the big reveal), very worst the core dual land will return, or the Mirrodin lands return. I am prepared for every scenario.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 21, 2012, 11:39:15 PM
I ordered a fat pack, the 5 intro decks and Planechase 2012. The set doesnt interest me, because I kinda figure at very best, the shock lands will come back (as the big reveal), very worst the core dual land will return, or the Mirrodin lands return. I am prepared for every scenario.
I'm hoping to pull some of the new stuff, the rest, trade fodder and extras for new players
The problem with purchasing a booster box of any expansion is, each pack contains 1 rare (sometimes you get lucky with a foil). Sometimes you open {Hallowed Fountain}, sometimes you get {Otherworld Atlas}.
That being said, the return on a core booster box investment is lower still, considering the commons are bulk (and reprints to boot), the mythics are mostly reprints (few new, which aren't exhilarating). And it has it's versions of {Otherworld Atlas} (like that 7 mana artifact that taps and deals 1 dmg)
Quote from: Dudecore on June 22, 2012, 12:25:44 AM
The problem with purchasing a booster box of any expansion is, each pack contains 1 rare (sometimes you get lucky with a foil). Sometimes you open {Hallowed Fountain}, sometimes you get {Otherworld Atlas}.
That being said, the return on a core booster box investment is lower still, considering the commons are bulk (and reprints to boot), the mythics are mostly reprints (few new, which aren't exhilarating). And it has it's versions of {Otherworld Atlas} (like that 7 mana artifact that taps and deals 1 dmg)
Such an awful rare.
Use it with tibalt in a control deck?
Lol whenever I think of m13 all I can think of is the new ajani...haha...drool.....
Oh I am well aware of the crap return on investment. But I buy boxes for the fun of opening packs, holding drafts with friends, and I like to give away the bulk crap to kids just starting out. I can easily afford it so why not.
Quote from: Hays413 on June 22, 2012, 08:36:56 AM
Oh I am well aware of the crap return on investment. But I buy boxes for the fun of opening packs, holding drafts with friends, and I like to give away the bulk crap to kids just starting out. I can easily afford it so why not.
I buy a variety pack (booster box, 5 intro packs, fat pack) for all the sets, except the core sets.
Quote from: Hays413 on June 22, 2012, 08:36:56 AM
Oh I am well aware of the crap return on investment. But I buy boxes for the fun of opening packs, holding drafts with friends, and I like to give away the bulk crap to kids just starting out. I can easily afford it so why not.
Ditto! W00t W00t!
Cracking boosters is like scratching lotto tickets. I know that it's not "fiscally responsible", but I am paying for the small excitement of hope. "Come'on foil Tammy!"
Quote from: BlackJester on June 22, 2012, 03:14:30 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on June 22, 2012, 08:36:56 AM
Oh I am well aware of the crap return on investment. But I buy boxes for the fun of opening packs, holding drafts with friends, and I like to give away the bulk crap to kids just starting out. I can easily afford it so why not.
Ditto! W00t W00t!
Cracking boosters is like scratching lotto tickets. I know that it's not "fiscally responsible", but I am paying for the small excitement of hope. "Come'on foil Tammy!"
I am like Two-Face from Dark Knight.......I make my own luck ;)
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 22, 2012, 03:15:52 PM
I am like Two-Face from Dark Knight.......I make my own luck ;)
You put your own cards in booster packs and then open them? ???
Quote from: BlackJester on June 22, 2012, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 22, 2012, 03:15:52 PM
I am like Two-Face from Dark Knight.......I make my own luck ;)
You put your own cards in booster packs and then open them? ???
Can you make me a foily Super-Goyf?
{Tormod's Crypt}, reprinted as a Delver hoser?
Quote from: Dudecore on June 22, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
{Tormod's Crypt}, reprinted as a Delver hoser?
Maybe Snapcaster hoser but I do not see how it hoses delver.
I meant Snapcaster -.-
I'm sleepy, got annihilated at FNM with my Mono Black Zombies, and traded a bunch of my Scars block cards (because they're gonna rotate soon enough).
Quote from: Dudecore on June 22, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
{Tormod's Crypt}, reprinted as a Delver hoser?
I don't see it so much as a {snapcaster Mage} hoser. I see it as a sign that dredge might be coming back. {Grafdigger's cage} was/is the snapcaster hoser card. It's just no one plays it.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 23, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 22, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
{Tormod's Crypt}, reprinted as a Delver hoser?
I don't see it so much as a {snapcaster Mage} hoser. I see it as a sign that dredge might be coming back. {Grafdigger's cage} was/is the snapcaster hoser card. It's just no one plays it.
There's already {Nihil Spellbomb} though that hoses snappy and frites
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 23, 2012, 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 23, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 22, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
{Tormod's Crypt}, reprinted as a Delver hoser?
I don't see it so much as a {snapcaster Mage} hoser. I see it as a sign that dredge might be coming back. {Grafdigger's cage} was/is the snapcaster hoser card. It's just no one plays it.
There's already {Nihil Spellbomb} though that hoses snappy and frites
It's scars so the tormods crypt is the replacement.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 23, 2012, 03:08:23 PM
Quote from: Sagemaster on June 23, 2012, 02:49:56 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 23, 2012, 02:22:57 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 22, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
{Tormod's Crypt}, reprinted as a Delver hoser?
I don't see it so much as a {snapcaster Mage} hoser. I see it as a sign that dredge might be coming back. {Grafdigger's cage} was/is the snapcaster hoser card. It's just no one plays it.
There's already {Nihil Spellbomb} though that hoses snappy and frites
It's scars so the tormods crypt is the replacement.
Or the {1} {Grafdigger's Cage}
{Grafdigger's Cage} is a poor Snappy hoser. It ruins your gameplan too, if you use flashbacks (or if you use Snapcaster).
{Tormod's Crypt} appears to be a better solution.
{grafdiggers cage} also stops green suns. Its a decent card but is only good in a few decks
M10 lands are getting printed again
Bye bye excitement.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 25, 2012, 06:37:00 AM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on June 25, 2012, 03:18:09 AM
Bye bye excitement.
agreed
Stupid wizards.... (of the coast ;O)
At least {Llanowar Elves might not get reprinted since they remade {Arbor Elf}
Anyone else worried about token deck no more bombs or extraction
Quote from: Killin88 on June 25, 2012, 10:27:59 AM
Anyone else worried about token deck no more bombs or extraction
Yes
M10 lands? What an f'ing joke!
I'm guessing they're saving the awesome lands for RtR block instead. If they DO print anything like shock-lands of old, {Gem of Becoming} is going to be redonk!
Hopefully WotC reprints the original duals. Underground Sea in standard 😉
Quote from: Gummuh on June 25, 2012, 12:33:08 PM
Hopefully WotC reprints the original duals. Underground Sea in standard 😉
WAY too OP! The original dualies will never see reprint. They are on the Reserve list, meaning the only one's ever out there are all you'll ever see.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy
In some ways I'm happy. In terms of dual lands the core tap lands arent overpowered, I am happy I don't have to purchase new lands, and Ravnica might actually have cool new lands.
Meh you are right...at least I get to keep my sunpetals! :x
Ravinica better have gud lands though! :0
I'm sure they were stuck reprinting the tap lands, if they printed new duals, imagine that for almost 4 months how many duel lands would be in standard. It's cool to imagine, but always unlikely
Quote from: Hays413 on June 25, 2012, 11:58:53 AM
M10 lands? What an f'ing joke!
Yeah I'm pissed too
If it were 10 shock lands then since Innistrad printed enemy tap lands, so i was like "ok, maybe they want enemy colors to benefit from having 2 different dual land" (shocks and innistrad tap). But instead they reprint the allies.
It just about seals the deal for me, I won't be getting a booster box. I'll stick with the intro decks and a fat pack.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 25, 2012, 12:59:43 PM
Quote from: Gummuh on June 25, 2012, 12:33:08 PM
Hopefully WotC reprints the original duals. Underground Sea in standard 😉
WAY too OP! The original dualies will never see reprint. They are on the Reserve list, meaning the only one's ever out there are all you'll ever see.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=magic/products/reprintpolicy
I was kidding! :D
I think it's long shot that we may ever see new subtyped dualies printed, outside of the shocks coming back for Ravnica.
I wish they would of done the pain lands instead. If you don't know which ones im talking its the 10th edition lands. (i.e. {shivan reef})
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 25, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
I wish they would of done the pain lands instead. If you don't know which ones im talking its the 10th edition lands. (i.e. {shivan reef})
Why pain lands? Shocks do almost the same thing..
Pain lands are wildly unpopular with the casual base. It's hard enough extoll the benefits of Shock Lands and Fetch lands.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 25, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
I wish they would of done the pain lands instead. If you don't know which ones im talking its the 10th edition lands. (i.e. {shivan reef})
Newer players don't like the idea of taking damage. It's harder for them to see the benefit.
I'll play life for anything anyday to win. But for mana and especially not a huge benefit, I'll pass. In EDH anyway.
If it was standard I wouldn't {think twice} about paying life for the right mana.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 25, 2012, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 25, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
I wish they would of done the pain lands instead. If you don't know which ones im talking its the 10th edition lands. (i.e. {shivan reef})
Newer players don't like the idea of taking damage. It's harder for them to see the benefit.
I actually liked those
Quote from: Greg54js on June 25, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 25, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
I wish they would of done the pain lands instead. If you don't know which ones im talking its the 10th edition lands. (i.e. {shivan reef})
Why pain lands? Shocks do almost the same thing..
I'm talking about instead of the m10 dual lands.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 25, 2012, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 25, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
I wish they would of done the pain lands instead. If you don't know which ones im talking its the 10th edition lands. (i.e. {shivan reef})
Newer players don't like the idea of taking damage. It's harder for them to see the benefit.
I know, but I think they are very fair lands. You pay something to get something. I justed hoped for them over the m10 lands.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 25, 2012, 10:07:02 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 25, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 25, 2012, 05:11:29 PM
I wish they would of done the pain lands instead. If you don't know which ones im talking its the 10th edition lands. (i.e. {shivan reef})
Why pain lands? Shocks do almost the same thing..
I'm talking about instead of the m10 dual lands.
Il that but what difference does it make?
when/how you have access to different colors is the difference.
{Door to Nothingness} or whatever is coming back
Quote from: darkarts981 on June 26, 2012, 04:33:38 PM
{Door to Nothingness} or whatever is coming back
Oh God, are they really reprinting that in M13? That would be hilarious
True story.
Big improvement on the art too!
Better use for that mana is {progenitus}..... And almost anything else in the game.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 26, 2012, 05:10:01 PM
Better use for that mana is {progenitus}..... And almost anything else in the game.
progenitus doesn't guarantee wins door does
Use them together!
{Door to Nothingness} + {Progenitus} + {Charmed Pendant}
;D
Quote from: BlackJester on June 26, 2012, 05:22:22 PM
Use them together!
{Door to Nothingness} + {Progenitus} + {Charmed Pendant}
;D
Lol, yeah
{slumbering dragon} R 3/3! All you gotta do is get attacked 5 times and it's an 8/8! Lol!
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 26, 2012, 06:26:36 PM
{slumbering dragon} R 3/3! All you gotta do is get attacked 5 times and it's an 8/8! Lol!
Yea I like that guy. Hopefully he turns out to be a junk rare that is worth less than a buck.
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 26, 2012, 06:26:36 PM
{slumbering dragon} R 3/3! All you gotta do is get attacked 5 times and it's an 8/8! Lol!
All you need is 5 creatures to attack you. In an aggro environment that wont be long.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 26, 2012, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 26, 2012, 06:26:36 PM
{slumbering dragon} R 3/3! All you gotta do is get attacked 5 times and it's an 8/8! Lol!
All you need is 5 creatures to attack you. In an aggro environment that wont be long.
Plus there are plenty of cards in standard to add counters to creatures. I see a R/G deck for sure.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 26, 2012, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: Harmon74 on June 26, 2012, 06:26:36 PM
{slumbering dragon} R 3/3! All you gotta do is get attacked 5 times and it's an 8/8! Lol!
All you need is 5 creatures to attack you. In an aggro environment that wont be long.
That's true, but you could be hurting pretty bad by the time he wakes up, to get {vapor snag}GED. Lol! I think I heard he's around $3 right now.
go second
T1: {Copperline Gorge}, {Slumbering Dragon}
get attacked once
T2: Miracle draw {Blessings of Nature}, attack with flying 8/8
Opponent is sadballz. :'(
Odds are pretty low, but still... play four of each and you're bound to get it once in a while.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 26, 2012, 07:25:28 PM
go second
T1: {Copperline Gorge}, {Slumbering Dragon}
get attacked once
T2: Miracle draw {Blessings of Nature}, attack with flying 8/8
Opponent is sadballz. :'(
Odds are pretty low, but still... play four of each and you're bound to get it once in a while.
Not gonna lie. Pretty sweet combo! Lol
I don't think Slumbering Dragon is that bad. He would have been a whole lot cooler if he had flash. Also if I read it right, he gets a +1/+1 for each creature attacking you. That ability does not go away. A R/G ramp deck can turn a t3 {wolfir silverheart}... That is for +1/+1 counters... Who knows...
Quote from: Tumalc on June 26, 2012, 10:20:05 PM
I don't think Slumbering Dragon is that bad. He would have been a whole lot cooler if he had flash. Also if I read it right, he gets a +1/+1 for each creature attacking you. That ability does not go away. A R/G ramp deck can turn a t3 {wolfir silverheart}... That is for +1/+1 counters... Who knows...
Silver heart doesn't give counters.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! {Akroma's Memorial} IS GETTING REPRINTED!!!
Quote from: Nobbert on June 27, 2012, 02:32:42 AM
Quote from: Tumalc on June 26, 2012, 10:20:05 PM
I don't think Slumbering Dragon is that bad. He would have been a whole lot cooler if he had flash. Also if I read it right, he gets a +1/+1 for each creature attacking you. That ability does not go away. A R/G ramp deck can turn a t3 {wolfir silverheart}... That is for +1/+1 counters... Who knows...
Silver heart doesn't give counters.
I thought those were considered counters...
Quote from: Leviathan on June 27, 2012, 04:24:12 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! {Akroma's Memorial} IS GETTING REPRINTED!!!
WTH???!!!??!??!?!??!?
Quote from: Leviathan on June 27, 2012, 04:24:12 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! {Akroma's Memorial} IS GETTING REPRINTED!!!
WTH?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Quote from: Tumalc on June 27, 2012, 05:50:36 AM
Quote from: Nobbert on June 27, 2012, 02:32:42 AM
Quote from: Tumalc on June 26, 2012, 10:20:05 PM
I don't think Slumbering Dragon is that bad. He would have been a whole lot cooler if he had flash. Also if I read it right, he gets a +1/+1 for each creature attacking you. That ability does not go away. A R/G ramp deck can turn a t3 {wolfir silverheart}... That is for +1/+1 counters... Who knows...
Silver heart doesn't give counters.
I thought those were considered counters...
Nope. Counters are permanent.
Thanks guys I understand it now.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 27, 2012, 04:24:12 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! {Akroma's Memorial} IS GETTING REPRINTED!!!
I quit... better be mythic
Quote from: Killin88 on June 27, 2012, 10:18:52 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 27, 2012, 04:24:12 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! {Akroma's Memorial} IS GETTING REPRINTED!!!
I quit... better be mythic
HOLY BEJEBUS! M13 you are playing mind games with my brain! I want you but I can't have you and you know it! And still the endless torment continues!
What's the deal with {Master of the Pearl Trident}? It's just {Lord of Atlantis}...exactly him.
I know he's entering my Merfolk deck. I don't get the purpose of printing a 4th merfolk lord. Now 4 of him, 4 {lord of Atlantis}, 4 {merrow reejerey} and less {coralhelm commander}. Woot.
obviously it's a nod towards {merfolk of the pearl trident}
Quote from: Dudecore on June 27, 2012, 12:29:37 PM
What's the deal with {Master of the Pearl Trident}? It's just {Lord of Atlantis}...exactly him.
I know he's entering my Merfolk deck. I don't get the purpose of printing a 4th merfolk lord. Now 4 of him, 4 {lord of Atlantis}, 4 {merrow reejerey} and less {coralhelm commander}. Woot.
Don't forget {merfolk sovereign} 😝
Quote from: Dudecore on June 27, 2012, 12:29:37 PM
What's the deal with {Master of the Pearl Trident}? It's just {Lord of Atlantis}...exactly him.
I know he's entering my Merfolk deck. I don't get the purpose of printing a 4th merfolk lord. Now 4 of him, 4 {lord of Atlantis}, 4 {merrow reejerey} and less {coralhelm commander}. Woot.
Yea merfolk is all you will see in Modern.
{Murder} {1}{B}{B} replacing {Doom Blade}?
Quote from: Dudecore on June 27, 2012, 07:14:35 PM
{Murder} {1}{B}{B} replacing {Doom Blade}?
I hOpe not. Unless RTR has some better kill spells.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 27, 2012, 12:29:37 PM
What's the deal with {Master of the Pearl Trident}? It's just {Lord of Atlantis}...exactly him.
I know he's entering my Merfolk deck. I don't get the purpose of printing a 4th merfolk lord. Now 4 of him, 4 {lord of Atlantis}, 4 {merrow reejerey} and less {coralhelm commander}. Woot.
{master of the pearl trident} is not the same as {lord of atlantis}, because master doesn't pump your opponents merfolk like LoA does.
{Mutilate} Returns!
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/6iopog3mie_en.jpg
I could have gone so long without seeig that card.....but no you had to ruin my night. I probably won't be able to go to bed now after seeing that art..... :,(
Quote from: Leviathan on June 28, 2012, 01:29:54 AM
{Mutilate} Returns!
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/6iopog3mie_en.jpg
Nice! A board wipe that hits everything!
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 01:35:36 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 28, 2012, 01:29:54 AM
{Mutilate} Returns!
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/6iopog3mie_en.jpg
Nice! A board wipe that hits everything!
New Lilly's going to be VERY happy. ;)
Quote from: BlackJester on June 28, 2012, 01:38:53 AM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 01:35:36 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 28, 2012, 01:29:54 AM
{Mutilate} Returns!
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/6iopog3mie_en.jpg
Nice! A board wipe that hits everything!
New Lilly's going to be VERY happy. ;)
Heck yeah!
And people say lily won't be good
Quote from: Millionlittlee on June 28, 2012, 01:45:00 AM
And people say lily won't be good
I know! "she can't defend herself", well then YOU defend her! You're playing mono-{B}!
With {duress} and {distress} and kill spells like {murder} and {doom blade} MBC looks like a viable deck with {mutilate} coming back.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 28, 2012, 01:51:34 AM
Quote from: Millionlittlee on June 28, 2012, 01:45:00 AM
And people say lily won't be good
I know! "she can't defend herself", well then YOU defend her! You're playing mono-{B}!
My thoughts exactly
They better reprint {prismatic omen}...
Quote from: Greg54js on June 28, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
They better reprint {prismatic omen}...
I KNOW!!!! I only have one and it's in my progenitus deck but if I had more it would be so much faster! And I tried getting them on eBay but some guy was askin 10 bucks for a playset.
Lol I want it because they reprinted {door to nothingness}
He's BAAAACK!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/wjc2cxzycr_en.jpg)
Quote from: BlackJester on June 28, 2012, 11:28:30 AM
He's BAAAACK!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/m13/wjc2cxzycr_en.jpg)
Jester we knew this already.
Really? From where? ??? I only just officially showed up on the official spoiler.
I knew who the PW were going to going to be, just not which version.
There was a pic in this thread with a pic of 6 planeswalkers and yOu could see their Cmc and we deduced from it
Lili, ajani, jace, garruk, bolas.
Almost forgot chandra
Quote from: Leviathan on June 05, 2012, 08:53:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Nbysu.png
Note the CMCs of the black and white walkers.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
There was a pic in this thread with a pic of 6 planeswalkers and yOu could see their Cmc and we deduced from it
Lili, ajani, jace, garruk, bolas.
Almost forgot chandra
Bah! "Deduced." They
could have made a new flavor of Jace. ;)
Well, FWIW it's
official. :P
Make a new jace with same art (upper corner right) and same cmc?
Would wizards actually do that?
😳 blackjester dubs thee jace official😄
Quote from: CbStrad on June 28, 2012, 10:47:27 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 28, 2012, 10:46:11 AM
Quote from: Greg54js on June 28, 2012, 10:41:49 AM
They better reprint {prismatic omen}...
I KNOW!!!! I only have one and it's in my progenitus deck but if I had more it would be so much faster! And I tried getting them on eBay but some guy was askin 10 bucks for a playset.
For a playset of a $5 card? Not bad
Is it really? Dammit I should have taken it when I had the chance. Damn you empty bank account!!!!! DAMN YOU!!!!!!
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 11:52:50 AM
Make a new jace with same art (upper corner right) and same cmc?
Would wizards actually do that?
😳 blackjester dubs thee jace official😄
No, they probably wouldn't. But it's
possible. ;D I'm just getting tired of Jace in tha face. Tammy was a refreshing change, and I was thinking that the new merfolk dude, Talrand, was going to be a PW. Guess not. :-\
BTW to me, it ain't official until it shows up on the Mothership, or previewed by an employee.
Oh well jester most of us use mtg salvation
Quote from: Greg54js on June 28, 2012, 02:44:08 PM
Oh well jester most of us use mtg salvation
Sacrilege! They are a bunch of meanies of there. Right Piotr? ;)
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=392155
Quote from: BlackJester on June 28, 2012, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 28, 2012, 11:52:50 AM
Make a new jace with same art (upper corner right) and same cmc?
Would wizards actually do that?
😳 blackjester dubs thee jace official😄
No, they probably wouldn't. But it's possible. ;D I'm just getting tired of Jace in tha face. Tammy was a refreshing change, and I was thinking that the new merfolk dude, Talrand, was going to be a PW. Guess not. :-\
BTW to me, it ain't official until it shows up on the Mothership, or previewed by an employee.
Love Tammy, but I really, REALLY want Kiora Atua to become a reality. I want her on my team! <3
Trading Post actually looks like it could be a fun card.
{Trading Post} {4}
{1},{T} , Discard a card: You gain 4 life.
{1},{T} , Pay 1 life: Put a 0/1 white Goat creature token onto the battlefield.
{1},{T} , Sacrifice a creature: Return target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand.
{1},{T} , Sacrifice an artifact: Draw a card.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 28, 2012, 06:18:49 PM
Trading Post actually looks like it could be a fun card.
{Trading Post} {4}
{1},{T} , Discard a card: You gain 4 life.
{1},{T} , Pay 1 life: Put a 0/1 white Goat creature token onto the battlefield.
{1},{T} , Sacrifice a creature: Return target artifact card from your graveyard to your hand.
{1},{T} , Sacrifice an artifact: Draw a card.
Goat lover! Jkjk
Quote from: JaxxLevia on June 28, 2012, 06:16:31 PM
Love Tammy, but I really, REALLY want Kiora Atua to become a reality. I want her on my team! <3
I think I speak for {Spikepit} when I say that {cltrn81} and {Spikepit} approve of this message. I know Spike loves Kiora on DotP and I share his enthusiasm ;)
{Battle of Wits} and {Gilded Lotus} to be printed in M13.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 29, 2012, 01:00:47 AM
{Battle of Wits} and {Gilded Lotus} to be printed in M13.
{Gilded Lotus} is nice. But...{Battle of Wits}? Really? I can't even use that card as kindling.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 29, 2012, 01:00:47 AM
{Battle of Wits} and {Gilded Lotus} to be printed in M13.
How is {Battle of wits} even a card?!?!?!?!?
Quote from: Gorzo on June 29, 2012, 03:16:38 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 29, 2012, 01:00:47 AM
{Battle of Wits} and {Gilded Lotus} to be printed in M13.
{Gilded Lotus} is nice. But...{Battle of Wits}? Really? I can't even use that card as kindling.
Agreed. I see someone with a 200+ library and I am like.....really???? Are you serious????
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 29, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Quote from: Gorzo on June 29, 2012, 03:16:38 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on June 29, 2012, 01:00:47 AM
{Battle of Wits} and {Gilded Lotus} to be printed in M13.
{Gilded Lotus} is nice. But...{Battle of Wits}? Really? I can't even use that card as kindling.
Agreed. I see someone with a 200+ library and I am like.....really???? Are you serious????
200 is a bit excessive but don't knock it until you try it. For some god damn reason my friend has nothing but decks that are 100+ cards and he still always seems to get what he wants because he has like 5-6 win cons in one deck.
{battle of wits} decks were possible in the past because there were cards that searched it out. Unless they put something like in m13 or RtR {battle of wits} will be a deck somebody put together for fun.
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=sideboard/mi02/stdecks
If it's good enough for Jon Finkel, it's good enough for moi. :-*
Quote from: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=sideboard/mi02/stdecks
If it's good enough for Jon Finkel, it's good enough for moi. :-*
It was a marketing ploy. Those decks stink.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 29, 2012, 01:06:16 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 12:34:52 PM
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=sideboard/mi02/stdecks
If it's good enough for Jon Finkel, it's good enough for moi. :-*
It was a marketing ploy. Those decks stink.
So you think his opponents let him go 3-0 to win for marketing?
Playset of m13 dual lands for 53$ a good deal? Don't have any and thinking about picking some up.
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 29, 2012, 01:55:34 PM
Playset of m13 dual lands for 53$ a good deal? Don't have any and thinking about picking some up.
I think so. That comes to $2.65 a piece. I know some of them are $4 a pop and only a couple are just under $3
Quote from: CbStrad on June 29, 2012, 01:32:41 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 29, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Agreed. I see someone with a 200+ library and I am like.....really???? Are you serious????
They see me trollin... XD
I just wouldn't play it because I don't want to have to shuffle a 200+ behemoth. If I could use one of those automated shufflers, I'd be in like Flynn. 8)
Quote from: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: CbStrad on June 29, 2012, 01:32:41 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on June 29, 2012, 08:05:59 AM
Agreed. I see someone with a 200+ library and I am like.....really???? Are you serious????
They see me trollin... XD
I just wouldn't play it because I don't want to have to shuffle a 200+ behemoth. If I could use one of those automated shufflers, I'd be in like Flynn. 8)
I see what you did there
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 29, 2012, 02:25:31 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 02:19:50 PM
I just wouldn't play it because I don't want to have to shuffle a 200+ behemoth. If I could use one of those automated shufflers, I'd be in like Flynn. 8)
I see what you did there
What did I do there? Did I make a funny and not even know it? Damn I'm good! ;D
Quote from: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 02:28:55 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on June 29, 2012, 02:25:31 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on June 29, 2012, 02:19:50 PM
I just wouldn't play it because I don't want to have to shuffle a 200+ behemoth. If I could use one of those automated shufflers, I'd be in like Flynn. 8)
I see what you did there
What did I do there? Did I make a funny and not even know it? Damn I'm good! ;D
"In like Flynn" is a movie from the late '60's. Or it's "in like flint" but I think it's the first one.
Oh, yeah I've been using that expression for a while. (not since the 60's though. ;))
Quote from: Willthomjr on June 29, 2012, 01:55:34 PM
Playset of m13 dual lands for 53$ a good deal? Don't have any and thinking about picking some up.
Where ? I want to buy some too lol
Yes. Jon Finkle going 3-0 in an Odessey Invitational is a marketing ploy. Because he played {Shadowmage infiltrator} the rest of the time, except that once.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 29, 2012, 11:05:03 PM
Yes. Jon Finkle going 3-0 in an Odessey Invitational is a marketing ploy. Because he played {Shadowmage infiltrator} the rest of the time, except that once.
Hmmm...💆 this may take some looking into. So, you're proposing that JF swapped decks for the Invitational, his opponents all threw their games to give him the win, as a way to promote {Battle of Wits}? That the Invitational was rigged, and Jon winning with BoW would help market the game? Interesting... 😏
It's not so much they threw the games, but ultimately 1 such instance when he played a trash deck doesn't make it a good deck. He played a garbage deck for an invitational where players are promoted for using the latest wincons. I'm sure he had an infect deck too.
Im just saying it's doable. I guess if JF can win an invitational (we're not talking kitchen tables here, these are the best players at the time) with a piece of 💩 win con, well I guess thats a testament to the awesomeness of Finkle.
That was also just the first example I plucked from the intertoobz.
Pro players, till this very day, play cards that promote card advantage. Finkle played a garbage deck in Avacyn invitational too. They know, at the time, that the invitational decks are not going to be serious decks.
They're set constructed. We saw in Avacyn invitational that 90% of the decks were G/W decks consisting of {Avacyn's Pilgrim} that ramp into {Wolfir Silverheart}. Slight to minimal variants of the same deck.
I'd be willing to be that Finkle is 55% or lower at invitationals. It's not just him, they prove themselves at tournaments, which is how you make your name.
/I love Jon Finkle. He's MtG's version of Alex Rodriguez/< insert famous sports person>
the invitational decks always prove to be the opposite of meta decks. Delver proved dominance, Wolf Run Ramp filled into all the Open tournaments that Delver didn't win, and Zombie Control made some headlines. None of those decks were invitational.
The point I was trying to get to is that it is possible to win games with BoW, at least causally. I doubt it'll see any play at a serious level (although it'd be hilarious if it broke a top 8 somewhere), but that's not the audience for it. It was made for Johnny, and Spikes they come a'hatin'.
In an aside, does anyone else think Delver and Exalted will run meta going forward? A 3/2 by turn 2 will always be useful, and the passive benefits of Exalted are great. {Vapor Snag} will rotate, but {Unsummon} is confirmed, a viable amount of Delver flippers exist. The swords will rotate, and may (IMO) be replaced my cheap Exalted creatures.
Like EsperDelver? Or just {W}{U}? That exalted land is gonna be BOSS son!
I think esper. White has slowly received better control, by nerfing blue. Black too. {Oblivion Ring} for {1}{W}. That exalted land is boss , I am not at all an MtG financial analyst, but I see that land transcending formats. I can see it defining the meta too. Or I could be completely wrong (I tend to run the gamut).
It will fill a lot of post-rotation holes on R/G midrange, Wolf Run Ramp, mono-green stomp and assorted other decks. It might even have a place in Legacy {reanimator} and merfolk
Is exalted good with 'folk? I thought they were a swarm strat? Like WW.
Quote from: BlackJester on June 30, 2012, 01:41:36 AM
Is exalted good with 'folk? I thought they were a swarm strat? Like WW.
This
So far my only "must have" is the {slumbering dragon}. $8 for a playset on eBay ;)
I am nicknaming him Smaug. "Don't wake up ole Smaug"
The dragon from the hobbit? That's awesome except his name is Smaug.
Quote from: Eryama on June 30, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
The dragon from the hobbit? That's awesome except his name is Smaug.
Yup that's him......thx for the correction ;)
Now I am going o call him that. I like it!!
Quote from: Eryama on June 30, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
The dragon from the hobbit? That's awesome except his name is Smaug.
Hobbits are kitkkin and gollum is {Stream Hopper} Lotr in magic.
Quote from: Thorn on June 30, 2012, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: Eryama on June 30, 2012, 05:37:49 PM
The dragon from the hobbit? That's awesome except his name is Smaug.
Hobbits are kitkkin and gollum is {Stream Hopper} Lotr in magic.
Treefolk = ents
And {leaf crowned elder} is tree beard. 😝
You guys are spot on 👍
Reprinting {Index}? Must be some kind of mistake.
Quote from: Dudecore on June 30, 2012, 09:44:51 PM
Reprinting {Index}? Must be some kind of mistake.
and people were complaining about {ponder}...
{Index} doesn't cantrip, but it does make Miracles even cooler.
And might make {Temporal Mastery} playable.
Quote from: Thorn on June 30, 2012, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on June 30, 2012, 09:44:51 PM
Reprinting {Index}? Must be some kind of mistake.
and people were complaining about {ponder}...
I think {index} is less powerful than {ponder} and {preordain} since you don't get to draw a card. Yes you can rearrange 5 instead of 3 or just scrying 2.
Its interesting
{Elvish Archdruid}.... Again?... Really?...
Quote from: Leviathan on July 01, 2012, 08:56:02 AM
{Elvish Archdruid}.... Again?... Really?...
:( ...
(Really I don't care... ;) )
Quote from: Thorn on July 01, 2012, 09:51:15 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on July 01, 2012, 08:56:02 AM
{Elvish Archdruid}.... Again?... Really?...
:( ...
(Really I don't care... ;) )
Me neither. Alot of my green decks have elves. So a ramping elf isn't bad to me. 😃
They probably want players texhale access to it because elves will come back in RtR
I just tired ofpullin him... Im sure there are other rare elves they could print instead.
Quote from: Leviathan on July 01, 2012, 01:03:11 PM
I just tired ofpullin him... Im sure there are other rare elves they could print instead.
Agree 100000 times over
Quote from: Thorn on July 01, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on July 01, 2012, 01:03:11 PM
I just tired ofpullin him... Im sure there are other rare elves they could print instead.
Agree 100000 times over
True but it's better than them reprinting {trained orgg} 😝
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on July 01, 2012, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: Thorn on July 01, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Leviathan on July 01, 2012, 01:03:11 PM
I just tired ofpullin him... Im sure there are other rare elves they could print instead.
Agree 100000 times over
True but it's better than them reprinting {trained orgg} 😝
Vanilla contest between him and {vizzerdrix} 😓
What's everybody think about {fog bank}? I think it'd be great for a control, or mill deck.
Quote from: Harmon74 on July 01, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
What's everybody think about {fog bank}? I think it'd be great for a control, or mill deck.
Is {Fog Bank} being reprinted in M13? That makes me happy if so, it's a great EDH card. Yeah, sure, I'll block that 30/30 Kresh. No biggie.
Quote from: Gorzo on July 01, 2012, 02:40:12 PM
Quote from: Harmon74 on July 01, 2012, 02:29:51 PM
What's everybody think about {fog bank}? I think it'd be great for a control, or mill deck.
Is {Fog Bank} being reprinted in M13? That makes me happy if so, it's a great EDH card. Yeah, sure, I'll block that 30/30 Kresh. No biggie.
Yep. Comming back in m13.
Yay! Foggy is coming home! He should be a crazy good blocker for the slew of mill decks in m13 too.
Quote from: Gorzo on July 01, 2012, 02:50:30 PM
Yay! Foggy is coming home! He should be a crazy good blocker for the slew of mill decks in m13 too.
Just outta curiosity, why is it good for or against mill? Or is it just that it's a great blocker in general so mill can use it?
Good blocker to keep those agro decks at bay, while you mill them to death.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on July 01, 2012, 03:40:21 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on July 01, 2012, 02:50:30 PM
Yay! Foggy is coming home! He should be a crazy good blocker for the slew of mill decks in m13 too.
Just outta curiosity, why is it good for or against mill? Or is it just that it's a great blocker in general so mill can use it?
Good question. It's a cheap effective flying defender. It buys time for slower decks like control and mill.
{Quirion Dryad} returns.
Quote from: Leviathan on June 27, 2012, 04:24:12 AM
ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! {Akroma's Memorial} IS GETTING REPRINTED!!!
This, good sir, is exciting news.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 01, 2012, 05:09:28 PM
{Quirion Dryad} returns.
Oooo prog or multi dragon deck, here she comes!
And {Phylactery Lich} is returning aswell.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 01, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
And {Phylactery Lich} is returning aswell.
Could this work with poliferate and {fate transfer}?
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on July 01, 2012, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 01, 2012, 06:27:36 PM
And {Phylactery Lich} is returning aswell.
Could this work with poliferate and {fate transfer}?
Presumably. I've encountered no {Phylactery Lich} decks I could think of, but I love the art and flavor.
Man, I'm starting to get pretty excited about m13. I'm gonna super upset if the prerelease events at my LGS are cancelled because they still don't have electricity back by the weekend. The storm Friday wrecked this area in central Ohio with 80mph winds, and went southeast on a rampage.
Quote from: Gorzo on July 01, 2012, 07:08:54 PM
Man, I'm starting to get pretty excited about m13. I'm gonna super upset if the prerelease events at my LGS are cancelled because they still don't have electricity back by the weekend. The storm Friday wrecked this area in central Ohio with 80mph winds, and went southeast on a rampage.
I'm sure they won't cancel them. If anything reschedule them. Too much promo stuff to give away and money lost to cancel.
Whole set is spoiled
Quote from: KangaRod on July 01, 2012, 09:18:18 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on June 29, 2012, 08:14:37 AM
200 is a bit excessive but don't knock it until you try it. For some god damn reason my friend has nothing but decks that are 100+ cards and he still always seems to get what he wants because he has like 5-6 win cons in one deck.
Imagine how good his deck would be with 5-6 win cons in a 60 card deck
And, to boot - this is 2012. If an entire city goes a week without electricity people will start dying, and s--t will hit the fan. I'm surprised its been out for more than a day
Lol! This past winter here in Washington we had no power for almost 2 weeks! The entire greater area 8 days.
What could possibly be the reason for not printing {Birds of Paradise}?
Quote from: Dudecore on July 02, 2012, 09:48:28 AM
What could possibly be the reason for not printing {Birds of Paradise}?
RTR?
Quote from: Dudecore on July 02, 2012, 09:48:28 AM
What could possibly be the reason for not printing {Birds of Paradise}?
Very abused in tournament play?
Quote from: Willthomjr on July 02, 2012, 09:51:30 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 02, 2012, 09:48:28 AM
What could possibly be the reason for not printing {Birds of Paradise}?
I think you're right. BoP were in Rav last time around.
RTR?
Man no birds, no prime time, no rampant growth, what will RG aggro do?
Quote from: Trevor on July 02, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
Man no birds, no prime time, no rampant growth, what will RG aggro do?
LLANOWAR ELVES!!!!!
It's a core set. They are going to be in there.
Quote from: Trevor on July 02, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
Man no birds, no prime time, no rampant growth, what will RG aggro do?
It's getting neutered. Over 50% of wolf ramp deck is cycling out. With no viable replacements unless RTR has some goodies.
Yay bye bye stupid inkmoths. Bye bye annoying glimmerpost. Bye bye frivkin primeval titan that can fetch dumb lands!
I don't think my junk deck will suffer much...they have a new mana dork anyways...the one that untapa forests.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on July 02, 2012, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Trevor on July 02, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
Man no birds, no prime time, no rampant growth, what will RG aggro do?
LLANOWAR ELVES!!!!!
It's a core set. They are going to be in there.
No Llanowar elves either
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 02, 2012, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on July 02, 2012, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Trevor on July 02, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
Man no birds, no prime time, no rampant growth, what will RG aggro do?
LLANOWAR ELVES!!!!!
It's a core set. They are going to be in there.
No Llanowar elves either
😳😱 whachu talkin bout Willis!
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on July 02, 2012, 02:28:32 PM
Yay bye bye stupid inkmoths. Bye bye annoying glimmerpost. Bye bye frivkin primeval titan that can fetch dumb lands!
I don't think my junk deck will suffer much...they have a new mana dork anyways...the one that untapa forests.
All the cards I played against you...u mad?😁
A little maybe? Haha
Man I just looked through the blue section of the spoiler...there are 2 new playable counterspells. And they are hard counters! Also negate returned. Blue is lookin gud! So is white.
I love the fact {rewind} is coming back.
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on July 02, 2012, 02:35:13 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 02, 2012, 02:31:47 PM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on July 02, 2012, 02:03:34 PM
Quote from: Trevor on July 02, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
Man no birds, no prime time, no rampant growth, what will RG aggro do?
LLANOWAR ELVES!!!!!
It's a core set. They are going to be in there.
No Llanowar elves either
😳😱 whachu talkin bout Willis!
{Arbor Elf} instead.
Can't say I'm thrilled with M13. They neutered green ramp. No {rites of flourishing} and abunch boring extremely vanilla (and worse) creatures for all colors.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 02, 2012, 09:55:50 PM
Can't say I'm thrilled with M13. They neutered green ramp. No {rites of flourishing} and abunch boring extremely vanilla (and worse) creatures for all colors.
they didn't actually neuter green ramp they modded it to work with the upcoming dual lands in rtr block.
That nrw mythic wurm will be my other 7 drop besides ol' elesh in my deck! :)
Lady gaga going bye bye ;(
Core sets tend to give information about future sets. M12 had Zombie lord {Cemetery Reaper}, M13 has a Merfolk lord...RtR merfolk tribe? Hope so.
Yeah I guess elderscale will replace gagagahaga
Quote from: Dudecore on July 02, 2012, 10:44:23 PM
Core sets tend to give information about future sets. M12 had Zombie lord {Cemetery Reaper}, M13 has a Merfolk lord...RtR merfolk tribe? Hope so.
I think it might have had to do with a general return of 'folk and for DotP2013.
Okay guys I'm calling this right now. Everyone will be excited for shock lands retuning and then wizards will take a giant s--- on our face...
BAM TRIBAL LANDS ARE BACK!
Now that the entire set has been released, when can we expect an update to the database?
Quote from: Chrisius on July 03, 2012, 08:51:36 AM
Now that the entire set has been released, when can we expect an update to the database?
when the entire set is actually released and not only previewed.
Quote from: scarsabrex on July 03, 2012, 09:01:00 AM
Quote from: Chrisius on July 03, 2012, 08:51:36 AM
Now that the entire set has been released, when can we expect an update to the database?
when the entire set is actually released and not only previewed.
My bad, I meant previewed, but okay
I thought they'd reprint {birthing pod}. It was a cool enough archetype, and not insanely dominating, it was a cool way for players to play with all the insane cost cards, and had weaknesses and drawbacks.
I don't own a pod deck, and I can't remember really ever losing to one (I'm certain it's happened, just can't recall). It would be fun for exalted too.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on July 02, 2012, 11:11:03 PM
Okay guys I'm calling this right now. Everyone will be excited for shock lands retuning and then wizards will take a giant s--- on our face...
BAM TRIBAL LANDS ARE BACK!
The more this topic comes up the less i think the shock lands will return. I whole heartedly believe we'll get dual type (mountain plains for example), but i think theyll have a different effect than shock to untap. Wishful thinking, but dual type manlands maybe?
Quote from: Dudecore on July 04, 2012, 06:02:08 AM
I thought they'd reprint {birthing pod}. It was a cool enough archetype, and not insanely dominating, it was a cool way for players to play with all the insane cost cards, and had weaknesses and drawbacks.
I don't own a pod deck, and I can't remember really ever losing to one (I'm certain it's happened, just can't recall). It would be fun for exalted too.
IDK, Naya Pod has become pretty dominant
Quote from: cltrn81 on July 04, 2012, 09:08:47 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on July 04, 2012, 06:02:08 AM
I thought they'd reprint {birthing pod}. It was a cool enough archetype, and not insanely dominating, it was a cool way for players to play with all the insane cost cards, and had weaknesses and drawbacks.
I don't own a pod deck, and I can't remember really ever losing to one (I'm certain it's happened, just can't recall). It would be fun for exalted too.
IDK, Naya Pod has become pretty dominant
Yup, naya humans and pod are very good.
Quote from: Dudecore on July 04, 2012, 06:02:08 AM
I thought they'd reprint {birthing pod}. It was a cool enough archetype, and not insanely dominating, it was a cool way for players to play with all the insane cost cards, and had weaknesses and drawbacks.
I don't own a pod deck, and I can't remember really ever losing to one (I'm certain it's happened, just can't recall). It would be fun for exalted too.
I think they are going away from the Phyrexian mana costs. That being said, they might come out with a card similar to {birthing pod} that has a regular mana cost. Idk.
{Interpid Hero}!!!!
So am I the only one looking forward to the M13 Ring cycle?
Seems like quite a step up from the M12 life gain artifacts.
Though, a lack of cheap black and red removal ({Shock} and {Doom Blade}) after an expansion known for having a weak suite of removal (Innistrad block). Really does feel like MaRo wants to emphasize more on the red zone and tribal creatures.
I think innistrad block had plenty of removal. I'm the first person to agree that avacyn restored was lacking but the whole block?
RED
{Devil's Play}
{Brimstone Volley}
{Pillar of Flame}
BLUE
{Claustrophobia}
{Spectral Prison}
GREEN
{Prey Upon}
BLACK
{Bone Splinters}
{Tragic Slip}
{Barter In Blood} (kinda)
I'm not saying it had tons of removal but there was some.
Missing the days when {Lightning Bolt}, {Galvanic Blast}, {Burst Lightning}, and {Punishing Fire} were all standard.
Quote from: D3g3n on July 05, 2012, 02:51:24 AM
So am I the only one looking forward to the M13 Ring cycle?
Seems like quite a step up from the M12 life gain artifacts.
Though, a lack of cheap black and red removal ({Shock} and {Doom Blade}) after an expansion known for having a weak suite of removal (Innistrad block). Really does feel like MaRo wants to emphasize more on the red zone and tribal creatures.
It's not just MaRo, it's the whole New World Order. Go creature combat!
No more mana leak... Im gunna cry
So since theres no mana leak anymore, do u think they will make something to replace it. Maybe bring back {daze}?
Quote from: Sevenfold on July 05, 2012, 01:24:54 PM
So since theres no mana leak anymore, do u think they will make something to replace it. Maybe bring back {daze}?
{Rewind}, {Negate}, {Remove Essence} are all in M13. I don't think we're going to see {Daze} any time soon, but I've been wrong before.
Spell piece is probly more likely, but i will not be even a little suprised if they have a counter with an alternate casting cost like daze soon.
They replaced mana leak with hard counters that are more situational. I like this.
XU counter target spell. X is the casting cost minus one of the countered spell.
??? Who knows.
Quote from: Willthomjr on July 05, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
XU counter target spell. X is the casting cost minus one of the countered spell.
??? Who knows.
A better {Spell Blast}?
Quote from: BlackJester on July 05, 2012, 02:59:11 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on July 05, 2012, 02:44:32 PM
XU counter target spell. X is the casting cost minus one of the countered spell.
??? Who knows.
A better {Spell Blast}?
I prefer {power sink} over {spell blast} and as far as one drop counters I wont mind {force spike} coming back.
M13 is now is Gatherer.
Quote from: BlackJester on July 05, 2012, 09:42:18 PM
Quote from: D3g3n on July 05, 2012, 07:27:07 PM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on July 05, 2012, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: BlackJester
link=topic=6219.msg69533#msg69533 date=1341530372
M13 is now is Gatherer.
???
Blame autocorrect.
No, just bad thumbs. 👎😓
Its a canadian thing