Name revealed at PAX Australia
Spoilers: http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/index.html
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-dragons-tarkir-2014-11-03
Muggy edit:
Set fully spoiled, Unsticky
Speculating there will be dragons
Lolrus don't be stupid Dargons are extinct on Tarkir silly silly silly
(In case ppl can't pick if up that was major sarcasm!)
I'm speculating here, but a new incarnation of {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} called Bolas, Lord of Dragons...
What do we know of Bolas' early years? Like what plane is he from?
Hoping the new dragons will be in the enemy colours so we have more legends in those colours to choose from!
Quote from: rarehuntertay on November 01, 2014, 09:58:15 PM
I'm speculating here, but a new incarnation of {Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker} called Bolas, Lord of Dragons...
He was one of the old elders but not the leader. Judd another elder, albeit a powerful one. Maybe Bolas, Defiler of Mortals? He was the most narcissistic/sociopathic of them all.
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
What do we know of Bolas' early years? Like what plane is he from?
He's an Elder Dragon. There's that.
Quote from: The1337Magician on November 02, 2014, 12:25:45 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
What do we know of Bolas' early years? Like what plane is he from?
He's an Elder Dragon. There's that.
No one knows where the Elder Dragons are from. There were already ancient when the plane of Dominaria was still young. And the Elder Dragon War destroyed many planes.
I predict {Crucible of Fire} will be viable in standard.
(Because dragons...)
I predict we will have enemy coloured dragons (etc {crosis the purger})
Quote from: Temur_Tendency on November 06, 2014, 04:59:21 AM
I predict we will have enemy coloured dragons (etc {crosis the purger})
I'm thinking the same thing, but then again, we've already got them... {Vorosh, the Hunter}, {Numot, the Devastator}, {Intet, the Dreamer}, etc so who knows what they'll do.
Quote from: Spikepit on November 06, 2014, 06:34:11 AM
Quote from: Temur_Tendency on November 06, 2014, 04:59:21 AM
I predict we will have enemy coloured dragons (etc {crosis the purger})
I'm thinking the same thing, but then again, we've already got them... {Vorosh, the Hunter}, {Numot, the Devastator}, {Intet, the Dreamer}, etc so who knows what they'll do.
Numot and {gods willing} would be nasty if you're not playing against Mardu for {crackling doom}
I had a thought the other day. Ugin as a colorless PW?
Quote from: Rasser on November 10, 2014, 09:09:45 PM
I had a thought the other day. Ugin as a colorless PW?
Yes please!
Quote from: Taysby on November 10, 2014, 09:55:03 PM
And have him cost 7 plz.
Gee! He'd better have some silly abilities for that much. Sound like a good spell for a Tron dec... wait a second! 😜
Quote from: The1337Magician on November 02, 2014, 12:25:45 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
What do we know of Bolas' early years? Like what plane is he from?
He's an Elder Dragon. There's that.
Bolas killed the other Elder Dragons, creating MTG as we know it. Sarkhan is going back in time to stop that from happening.
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on November 02, 2014, 12:25:45 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
What do we know of Bolas' early years? Like what plane is he from?
He's an Elder Dragon. There's that.
Bolas killed the other Elder Dragons, creating MTG as we know it. Sarkhan is going back in time to stop that from happening.
Stop spreading this rumor. It is already revealed that they're going back to save Ugin. Not this.
Quote from: The1337Magician on November 17, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 17, 2014, 02:20:15 PM
Quote from: The1337Magician on November 02, 2014, 12:25:45 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on November 01, 2014, 11:00:40 PM
What do we know of Bolas' early years? Like what plane is he from?
He's an Elder Dragon. There's that.
Bolas killed the other Elder Dragons, creating MTG as we know it. Sarkhan is going back in time to stop that from happening.
Stop spreading this rumor. It is already revealed that they're going back to save Ugin. Not this.
^This. I keep hearing this rumor, but nobody has yet to show me anything that even slightly suggests that.
Look into the artwork. That, and recently there was a card released to show what to expect. I forget the name but it has the choice to destroy all non dragons or destroy all dragons. Hint hint.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on November 19, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 19, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
Look into the artwork. That, and recently there was a card released to show what to expect. I forget the name but it has the choice to destroy all non dragons or destroy all dragons. Hint hint.
it's a card that has flavor... killing dragons or non dragons. It's not a confirmation.
How often do you have a card in magic that wipes out an entire type that has nothing to do with the storyline? (I.e. "Destroy all/target enchantments"- theros, BOG, Nyx)
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 19, 2014, 02:00:13 PM
Look into the artwork. That, and recently there was a card released to show what to expect. I forget the name but it has the choice to destroy all non dragons or destroy all dragons. Hint hint.
You mean the crux of fate artwork? Where bolas and ugin are fighting and there is no reference whatsoever to any of the other elder dragons?
Posting to stay updated.
Posting to stay updated
Is easier to just hit gatherer > gear > replies than to go to discussion dragons of Tarkir
#lazylifeforme
In other news. Recently saw Adam Sandler on Sesame Street XD
Quote from: Destore117 on December 15, 2014, 04:00:43 PM
Is easier to just hit gatherer > gear > replies than to go to discussion dragons of Tarkir
#lazylifeforme
In other news. Recently saw Adam Sandler on Sesame Street XD
The good ol days
Zen fetches may very well be In this set. Source is kinda cryptic but http://dougbeyermtg.tumblr.com/post/107820643739/doug-i-was-wondering-if-the-fetch-lands-in-khans#notes
I hope that's true because that would also mean enemy colour dragons 😍
As much as I want a reprint of Zen fetches .. Do we need them?
Quote from: Mattao19 on January 12, 2015, 12:09:20 PM
As much as I want a reprint of Zen fetches .. Do we need them?
Yes but I doubt it will happen in this set.
It is worth more unopened collecting dust over the next years
I want a {B}{W} dragon <3
Also fetches would be much appreciated.
I'm surprised {Facevaulter} wasn't reprinted. With the whole Mardu goblins thing with {Ponyback brigade} and heelcutters and {ankleshanker}
Quote from: GlowackAttack on January 12, 2015, 02:56:55 PM
Smart money says we will get our enemy colored dragons . My guess is the orzhov will be:
When a dragon attacks, extort. No doubt at all
Whenever a dragon you control attacks you may pay B/W, if you do each opponent loses one life. You gain life equal to the life lost this way.
Cause actual extort wouldn't make sense.
I understood what you meant, Glow.
Judging by the power level of the other Dragons. I think it might be even a larger scale. Maybe more life. Maybe return a creature from your graveyard tapped and attacking. That seems exciting.
Quote from: Noblellama on January 13, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
It would be very easy to word a life drain effect, just like the {Leeching Sliver} From M15
I'd love to see some sort of other effect, and while they already did the -1/-1 effect I had been hoping for then that leaves one logical option.
Bring back INFECT
(Curl into a ball and prepare for negative karma)
I don't see it becoming an effect while extort is so fresh in our mind. If they did I'd imagine they keyword it as "Syphon X"
Syphon sounds amazing!!! And Llama .... No!! It's already borderline broken .. Lol
Quote from: Noblellama on January 13, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
It would be very easy to word a life drain effect, just like the {Leeching Sliver} From M15
I'd love to see some sort of other effect, and while they already did the -1/-1 effect I had been hoping for then that leaves one logical option.
Bring back INFECT
(Curl into a ball and prepare for negative karma)
Infect sliver would be mythic OP
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on January 13, 2015, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 13, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
It would be very easy to word a life drain effect, just like the {Leeching Sliver} From M15
I'd love to see some sort of other effect, and while they already did the -1/-1 effect I had been hoping for then that leaves one logical option.
Bring back INFECT
(Curl into a ball and prepare for negative karma)
Infect sliver would be mythic OP
They've got the poison one though. That usually gets killed when it touches the field. An infect one would be eliminated instantly too
Quote from: Munchlax on January 13, 2015, 09:57:01 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on January 13, 2015, 02:21:28 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on January 13, 2015, 10:18:18 AM
It would be very easy to word a life drain effect, just like the {Leeching Sliver} From M15
I'd love to see some sort of other effect, and while they already did the -1/-1 effect I had been hoping for then that leaves one logical option.
Bring back INFECT
(Curl into a ball and prepare for negative karma)
Infect sliver would be mythic OP
They've got the poison one though. That usually gets killed when it touches the field. An infect one would be eliminated instantly too
You underestimate slivers. With your commander, {Sliver Overlord}, and {Quick Sliver}, one unblocked sliver can one-shot someone to death without warning. At least with {Poison Sliver}, there needs to be 10 unblocked slivers, which is usually game anyways.
So what. Less than 29 days till spoilers?
So what do we know so far? Morph will be continued. Bolster and dash are back. Has any card been spoiled yet?
This is all I've found so far:
(http://s3.gatheringmagic.com.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2014/11/03/DoTExpSymbol.jpg)
But also this:
(http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/130/879/635437350635199491.jpg)
Sneaky WotC
Well, the modal rares like the Sieges and {Crux of Fate} had a foil transition between those two symbols. I thought that was really clever.
With all these activated abilities do you think a {Stifle} Reprint? I know it was in conspiracy but I'm going on a hunch.
That would be pretty sweet
Quote from: The1337Magician on February 07, 2015, 06:43:03 PM
Well, the modal rares like the Sieges and {Crux of Fate} had a foil transition between those two symbols. I thought that was really clever.
I never noticed that! Thanks for enlightening me to that dude! I went to my foil Seiges and Lo and behold there it was. How clever! Too distracted by pretty colours obviously.
Quote from: Taysby on February 07, 2015, 07:21:23 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 07, 2015, 07:07:52 PM
With all these activated abilities do you think a {Stifle} Reprint? I know it was in conspiracy but I'm going on a hunch.
Yes please. Stifle them fetches in modern for dayz!
Oops I can't read. I thought {Stifle} Was from shadowmoor
"Tarkir block is a time-travel story. Drafting AAA, BAA, then CCB was Mark Rosewater's grand idea, but pulling it off was more than just making the sets and seeing if they would work. It required us to take elements from two sets that would never be played together and combine them to get a third set. In some sense, Fate Reforged is borrowing just as much from Dragons of Tarkir as it is from Khans of Tarkir. It's probably not quite half, but it is a ton. All of the allusions and cool "past versions" of cards that you've seen that relate to Khans? Well, there are plenty of nuggets from Dragons too—you just don't know it yet. One thing I can tell you is two of the mechanics in Dragons of Tarkir—bolster and dash."
Quote from: Avnger345 on February 08, 2015, 09:51:30 AM
"Tarkir block is a time-travel story. Drafting AAA, BAA, then CCB was Mark Rosewater's grand idea, but pulling it off was more than just making the sets and seeing if they would work. It required us to take elements from two sets that would never be played together and combine them to get a third set. In some sense, Fate Reforged is borrowing just as much from Dragons of Tarkir as it is from Khans of Tarkir. It's probably not quite half, but it is a ton. All of the allusions and cool "past versions" of cards that you've seen that relate to Khans? Well, there are plenty of nuggets from Dragons too—you just don't know it yet. One thing I can tell you is two of the mechanics in Dragons of Tarkir—bolster and dash."
Maybe they'll combine the two abilities and call it... Boulderdashery??
Well then last set they should have had a card called {clash of kahns}
Bolster and Dash are actually my least favorite mechanics from Khans. Hopefully we get to see more delve.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on February 08, 2015, 02:32:20 PM
Bolster and Dash are actually my least favorite mechanics from Khans. Hopefully we get to see more delve.
There unfortunately won't be any more delve cards in DTK
Where does your speculation come from
MORE BUG POWER
{3}{G}{U} Send Back Through Time
Delve
Counter Target Spell
If this spell is countered, return it to your hand
;)
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 09, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Where does your speculation come from
MORE BUG POWER
{3}{G}{U} Send Back Through Time
Delve
Counter Target Spell
If this spell is countered, return it to your hand
;)
Fate reforged used clan mechanics from both ktk and dtk. Delve, ferocious, and prowess returned from ktk and dash and bolster were previewed from dtk. The clan/(brood?) mechanics from dtk will be dash, bolster, and 3 new unknowns. No more delve.
Quote from: DrainCleaner on February 09, 2015, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 09, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Where does your speculation come from
MORE BUG POWER
{3}{G}{U} Send Back Through Time
Delve
Counter Target Spell
If this spell is countered, return it to your hand
;)
Fate reforged used clan mechanics from both ktk and dtk. Delve, ferocious, and prowess returned from ktk and dash and bolster were previewed from dtk. The clan/(brood?) mechanics from dtk will be dash, bolster, and 3 new unknowns. No more delve.
Does this also mean we will be seeing manifest again but not morph?
Quote from: MarduArrow on February 10, 2015, 12:23:48 AM
Quote from: DrainCleaner on February 09, 2015, 03:35:56 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 09, 2015, 01:41:50 PM
Where does your speculation come from
MORE BUG POWER
{3}{G}{U} Send Back Through Time
Delve
Counter Target Spell
If this spell is countered, return it to your hand
;)
Fate reforged used clan mechanics from both ktk and dtk. Delve, ferocious, and prowess returned from ktk and dash and bolster were previewed from dtk. The clan/(brood?) mechanics from dtk will be dash, bolster, and 3 new unknowns. No more delve.
Does this also mean we will be seeing manifest again but not morph?
There will be a third mechanic involving face down 2/2 creatures
Quote from: Noblellama on February 10, 2015, 03:07:57 AM
Morph is hand to battlefield
Manifest is deck to battlefield
Hand and deck are the only two zones that your opponent does not have free knowledge of, so where are you supposing this third mechanic pull cards from?
Outside the game! Jkjk. It could be randomly from graveyard.
More Bolster? sweet. My Abzan deck will get even better. I love it.
Quote from: Noblellama on February 10, 2015, 03:07:57 AM
Morph is hand to battlefield
Manifest is deck to battlefield
Hand and deck are the only two zones that your opponent does not have free knowledge of, so where are you supposing this third mechanic pull cards from?
Uranus.
Quote from: Rass on February 10, 2015, 10:52:36 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 10, 2015, 03:07:57 AM
Morph is hand to battlefield
Manifest is deck to battlefield
Hand and deck are the only two zones that your opponent does not have free knowledge of, so where are you supposing this third mechanic pull cards from?
Uranus.
y u no let me like post more than 1x/day :(
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 10, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Perhaps it will be something like
RR3
Zamo-Blamo
Deal 3 damage to target player, then flip this card over as a 2/2 token instead of putting it into your graveyard
That'd be really cool :P
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 10, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Perhaps it will be something like
RR3
Zamo-Blamo
Deal 3 damage to target player, then flip this card over as a 2/2 token instead of putting it into your graveyard
Lol glad you're not apart of card naming group
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 10, 2015, 12:23:08 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 10, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Perhaps it will be something like
RR3
Zamo-Blamo
Deal 3 damage to target player, then flip this card over as a 2/2 token instead of putting it into your graveyard
That'd be really cool :P
As long as the costs weren't insane I'd like it.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on February 10, 2015, 02:24:58 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 10, 2015, 12:22:03 PM
Perhaps it will be something like
RR3
Zamo-Blamo
Deal 3 damage to target player, then flip this card over as a 2/2 token instead of putting it into your graveyard
Lol glad you're not apart of card naming group
Idk man I'd collect as many cards named Zamo-Blamo as I could if they ever made one
Allied color theme is "confirmed" in today's uncharted realms story. Not too hard to guess but nice to have confirmation.
Quote from: Ieatfood7 on February 11, 2015, 11:41:15 AM
Allied color theme is "confirmed" in today's uncharted realms story. Not too hard to guess but nice to have confirmation.
NO!!! We want ENEMY colour dragons!
Allied is guaranteed as a thing.
Yup. They said it would not be enemy colors. That left allied colors or shards, with shards being unlikely. Now the allied pairs is confirmed.
So dragons of Tarkir is to frf as khans is to frf
Meaning it will be like khans all over again, except the dragons are the thing... So I wonder if there will be like dragons with
Outlast or prowess
Or different ascendencies
Well nevertheless if they don't make them easier to summon they won't be much $$
Quote from: Noblellama on February 11, 2015, 03:47:08 PM
Quote from: Ieatfood7 on February 11, 2015, 03:39:43 PM
Yup. They said it would not be enemy colors. That left allied colors or shards, with shards being unlikely. Now the allied pairs is confirmed.
Link? Or it didn't happen
Fixed 😝😝😝
Not enough likes available for this.
I'm totally okay with that, but like without all of them having hexproof or something it's just hard to imagine in this control heavy, or bulky aggro format
I wish everyone would just play some stinking dragoonnnnnnnnnyayusssssssssssss
Unfortunately we know how
{rooftop storm} worked out
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on February 11, 2015, 05:18:50 PM
I wish everyone would just play some stinking dragoonnnnnnnnnyayusssssssssssss
Unfortunately we know how
{rooftop storm} worked out
Yea but IMO {Rooftop Storm} Was silly because it was blue (most good zombie cards are black).
Rooftop storm but for Dragobs the catch is is that it's {4}{G} lol
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 11, 2015, 05:50:59 PM
Rooftop storm but for Dragobs the catch is is that it's {4}{G} lol
I would say white so you couldn't ramp.
{8}
Ugin's Host
Legendary Enchantment
When Ugin's Host enters the battlefield, put X 1/1 Dragon tokens with flying into play, where X is the number of Dragons on the battlefield.
Dragon creatures you control gain +X/+X, where X is the number of Dragons you control.
During each opponents' upkeep, they gain control of one Dragon-type monster on the field. That creature deals X damage to target creature or player, where X is the number of Dragons you don't control.
*Based off the epic Battle between Lord Bolas and Ugin as depicted in Uncharted Realms*
I cast lightning bolt at your "dragon type monster." It's super effective!
Quote from: Ieatfood7 on February 12, 2015, 06:34:05 AM
I cast lightning bolt at your "dragon type monster." It's super effective!
Nope. Only does normal damage. Flying-type weakness gets negated by dragon resistance to electricity.
Back onto Magic...
I think we have been overlooking something else, there is supposed to be 2 more plainswalkers in this set if it's like every other block, were missing blue and green and either black or white, ugins color kind of throws things off like karn did but if lets say they play dragons of Tarkir out like khans and only dragons survive the plane it's just sorin, sarkhan, ugin. and maybe the legendary khans from frf get the spark in the fights with dragons, not really sure. Or maybe new dragon plainswalkers, anybody have any insight on this
Is bolas still even around, is there a ongoing story to be read, I mean I guess if they're in the past where bolas kills ugin I guess he is somewhere. But can they really print a non shard bolas? Or two color bolas.. That would seem odd.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 12, 2015, 01:56:43 PM
They should print another 3 color one with new abilities lolz
That would make all of the sense lol
I guess I could see him being sultai or mardu colors or temur even
I thought that Bolas was gunna be in Dargons
I remember hearing something along the line that a Kahn gets its spark so there is atleast 1 new PW. Have never heard that bolas will be in this block. For all we know is he left the plane thinking Ugin was dead. Maybe ugin has layed low and stayed on tarkir.
Quote from: Mattao19 on February 12, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
I thought that Bolas was gunna be in Dargons
Not confirmed, and actually unlikely, Dragons is going to take place in the present, new Tarkir (where as in the fight happened 1280 years ago).
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 12, 2015, 04:15:42 PM
It's the Jeskai Monk that gets sparked right?
Unconfirmed, but one of the Uncharted Realms said Narset had some undiscovered potential in her, which is likely a spark
Quote from: Avnger345 on February 12, 2015, 03:56:14 PM
I remember hearing something along the line that a Kahn gets its spark so there is atleast 1 new PW. Have never heard that bolas will be in this block. For all we know is he left the plane thinking Ugin was dead. Maybe ugin has layed low and stayed on tarkir.
2 Planeswalkers (under the three set system each block gets 5), and I'm not entirely sure how the fight turned out, but it is all but confirmed Ugin will live, Mark Rosewater said something along the lines of, "what's the point of a time travel story if nothing changes."
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 12, 2015, 04:45:07 PM
A colored Ugin? Maybe 5 colored.
I doubt it, being colorless is central to his identity (see {Ghostfire}), and it is also the way he was able to combat the Eldrazi (Emrakul has protection from colored spells)
(https://littlehoot.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/toothless.png?w=860)
Edit: I'm thinking now my ambiguous reference was more ambiguous than it was reference. IMAP: I'm hoping for some dragon taming/riding going on, even if it's just "if you control an attacking dragon, [this creature] gets [something cool, probably flying]."
Quote from: Spikepit on February 12, 2015, 07:00:37 PM
(https://littlehoot.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/toothless.png?w=860)
Edit: I'm thinking now my ambiguous reference was more ambiguous than it was reference. IMAP: I'm hoping for some dragon taming/riding going on, even if it's just "if you control an attacking dragon, [this creature] gets [something cool, probably flying]."
Toothless.
Quote from: Noblellama on February 12, 2015, 08:29:23 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on February 12, 2015, 07:59:30 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on February 12, 2015, 07:16:12 PM
I want a nightfury...
Flying, haste, first strike
3/4
Probably costs about {2}{B}{B}
{Mirri, the cursed} you mean... and she's a 3/2 you greedy llama
;)
Mmmm.... Vampire Cat
Maybe they'll make Legendary Creature- Vampire Llama
But it'll probably be errated to "Camel" 😜
Bolas planes walker is being shown with the new logo and new artwork!
Quote from: Distriimuir on February 12, 2015, 11:52:35 PM
Bolas planes walker is being shown with the new logo and new artwork!
Links or didn't happen
I'm on an iPhone. It was posted on my Facebook by tcgplayer .Not saying authentic, but I believe it to be.
Quote from: Distriimuir on February 13, 2015, 03:14:21 AM
I'm on an iPhone. It was posted on my Facebook by tcgplayer .Not saying authentic, but I believe it to be.
Do you mean this photo?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10991251_795664733849725_7839116447682031022_n.jpg?oh=73119106519fec3c06683671df1ef6c6&oe=5591B18C&__gda__=1432323152_1454a519a7a2e3360a8ac17284c5a38a)
If so, that the duel deck artwork.
Well that bolas is from the Bolas vs Ajani deck
Lol tcgplayer made a post asking which card was cooler. No duel deck confirmed. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200
Ah guess I got too. Excited. Saw the new symbol and thought it was from dragons. Like I said I could've been wrong lol
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 13, 2015, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on February 13, 2015, 03:14:21 AM
I'm on an iPhone. It was posted on my Facebook by tcgplayer .Not saying authentic, but I believe it to be.
Do you mean this photo?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10991251_795664733849725_7839116447682031022_n.jpg?oh=73119106519fec3c06683671df1ef6c6&oe=5591B18C&__gda__=1432323152_1454a519a7a2e3360a8ac17284c5a38a)
If so, that the duel deck artwork.
I love that their final abilities are mirror opposites
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 13, 2015, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on February 13, 2015, 03:14:21 AM
I'm on an iPhone. It was posted on my Facebook by tcgplayer .Not saying authentic, but I believe it to be.
Do you mean this photo?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10991251_795664733849725_7839116447682031022_n.jpg?oh=73119106519fec3c06683671df1ef6c6&oe=5591B18C&__gda__=1432323152_1454a519a7a2e3360a8ac17284c5a38a)
If so, that the duel deck artwork.
Seems to be confusion so I will clarify. The Nicol Bolas is from Duel Decks: Nicol Bolas v. Ajani, the Ugin is from the Ugin's Fate packs. There is no Duel Deck, there is no new Nicol Bolas.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 13, 2015, 03:23:41 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 13, 2015, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: Distriimuir on February 13, 2015, 03:14:21 AM
I'm on an iPhone. It was posted on my Facebook by tcgplayer .Not saying authentic, but I believe it to be.
Do you mean this photo?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10991251_795664733849725_7839116447682031022_n.jpg?oh=73119106519fec3c06683671df1ef6c6&oe=5591B18C&__gda__=1432323152_1454a519a7a2e3360a8ac17284c5a38a)
If so, that the duel deck artwork.
Seems to be confusion so I will clarify. The Nicol Bolas is from Duel Decks: Nicol Bolas v. Ajani, the Ugin is from the Ugin's Fate packs. There is no Duel Deck, there is no new Nicol Bolas. Yet.
Fix'd.
I would buy two of those dual decks. One for my collection of duels and one to get ugin in my EDH.
So here we are less than four weeks from prerelease and I'm dying to start the spoiling...
Quote from: Nfidel2k on February 20, 2015, 12:48:41 PM
So here we are less than four weeks from prerelease and I'm dying to start the spoiling...
Yeah same here. It's been killing me for the past 2 weeks.
I thought spoilers were supposed to start yesterday.
Quote from: Bookmeister on February 24, 2015, 11:34:24 AM
I thought spoilers were supposed to start yesterday.
Nope, next week.
Get to a large set fully spoiled in less than 3 weeks.
Pre release info.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/tarkir-dragonfury-explanation-2015-02-24
Dice look cool
Very cool die, FTV quality.
Now the prerelease game... Uhh ok.
More alt art cards. Lol
Calling it now, the "rare" alt art is going to be {Crucible of the Spirit Dragon}
New article on the story and dragonlords!!!
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/tarkir-dragons-2015-02-25
Great story
So
So
So really Narset was gunna get killed, but her spark awoke and she plainswalked out right!?
{Taigam} is a bad person so he may still be shady here
{Ankle Shanker} is now known as Vial Smasher!
Quote from: Avnger345 on February 25, 2015, 08:37:09 PM
{Ankle Shanker} is now know as Vial Smasher!
That was my favorite part lol
Be prepared for some sweet, new dragons, guys! I just got to see CommanderCast's preview card last night while recording (Yes, we got one for a real set!) and it's pretty awesome.
http://pastebin.com/hZKUbvA2
Leaked article translated
Idk. You can edit it...
The raw paste data at the bottom is clearer. it's almost like someone translated it to a different language, then translated it back to English...
It was in Spanish.
http://m.imgur.com/wdvi1fe,FzmwzPI,Ri9cjhD,UHg3UyS,42oHZ9y,7Bf6KzD,88tzCUp,qotHrx0,bBproX9,HOhsFl9,CjyCbmQ
Images of article in Spanish
I cannot wait for all the cross overs! If we saw three just in the first unchartered realms, there's gonna be heaps more of em (hopefull). I love the {Zurgo, Bellstriker} art! I'm gonna go with him having some form of 'whenever a dragon enters the battlefield...' effect.
Are you talking to me? I saw the Bellstriker art in the latest Uncharted Realms, and that Shu Yu you might be Taigum (who never left Jeskai in this new reality).
{Remand} is up a bit I think
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on February 28, 2015, 08:42:30 PM
{Remand} is up a bit I think
Yeah, a couple bucks, but this is the wrong thread ;)
Spoilers start tomorrow! /If/ Zen fetches are here, when do you all think they will announce them? I'm thinking we have about 50/50 shot right now, but if they aren't announced tomorrow the chances go down to about 10/90
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Launch Day Promo
Flying.
When ~ enters the battlefield, if you cast it from your hand, and there are five or more other creatures on the battlefield, then destroy all other creatures.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 01, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Spoilers start tomorrow! /If/ Zen fetches are here, when do you all think they will announce them? I'm thinking we have about 50/50 shot right now, but if they aren't announced tomorrow the chances go down to about 10/90
Hard to say. Article says they wanted to do enemy color dragons but then decided not to. I think if they did do them as enemy color then we would have those fetch for sure.
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 01, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 01, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Spoilers start tomorrow! /If/ Zen fetches are here, when do you all think they will announce them? I'm thinking we have about 50/50 shot right now, but if they aren't announced tomorrow the chances go down to about 10/90
Hard to say. Article says they wanted to do enemy color dragons but then decided not to. I think if they did do them as enemy color then we would have those fetch for sure.
Isn't Zendikar confirmed? I'd expect them to wait until then.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 01, 2015, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 01, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 01, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Spoilers start tomorrow! /If/ Zen fetches are here, when do you all think they will announce them? I'm thinking we have about 50/50 shot right now, but if they aren't announced tomorrow the chances go down to about 10/90
Hard to say. Article says they wanted to do enemy color dragons but then decided not to. I think if they did do them as enemy color then we would have those fetch for sure.
Isn't Zendikar confirmed? I'd expect them to wait until then.
Was it actually confirmed?
Quote from: Estel2931 on March 01, 2015, 02:41:12 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 01, 2015, 02:36:39 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 01, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 01, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Spoilers start tomorrow! /If/ Zen fetches are here, when do you all think they will announce them? I'm thinking we have about 50/50 shot right now, but if they aren't announced tomorrow the chances go down to about 10/90
Hard to say. Article says they wanted to do enemy color dragons but then decided not to. I think if they did do them as enemy color then we would have those fetch for sure.
Isn't Zendikar confirmed? I'd expect them to wait until then.
Was it actually confirmed?
Zendikar is confirmed to be one of TEN different planes featured in Magic: Origins.
My bet it's where Gideon first plainswalked to after his first plane
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 01, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 01, 2015, 12:50:21 PM
Spoilers start tomorrow! /If/ Zen fetches are here, when do you all think they will announce them? I'm thinking we have about 50/50 shot right now, but if they aren't announced tomorrow the chances go down to about 10/90
Hard to say. Article says they wanted to do enemy color dragons but then decided not to. I think if they did do them as enemy color then we would have those fetch for sure.
That was a bad decision
New dragon just shown.
When you drop him from your hand and there are five or more creatures destroy all other creatures. 5/6 flying {B}{B}{5}
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on March 01, 2015, 03:22:44 PM
New dragon just shown.
When you drop him from your hand and there are five or more creatures destroy all other creatures. 5/6 flying {B}{B}{5}
(Check the previous page)
http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/index.html
Argus can you put this on your first post?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 01, 2015, 03:30:55 PM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on March 01, 2015, 03:22:44 PM
New dragon just shown.
When you drop him from your hand and there are five or more creatures destroy all other creatures. 5/6 flying {B}{B}{5}
(Check the previous page)
Aww, I thought I found something lol 😅
If any of you play Hearthstone at all, major Deathwing vibe from the new dragon.
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on March 01, 2015, 08:23:18 PM
If any of you play Hearthstone at all, major Deathwing vibe from the new dragon.
Yes. Indeed. But at least you don't have to discard your hand
Quote from: Rasser on March 01, 2015, 04:22:05 PM
http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/index.html
Argus can you put this on your first post?
He had done it but I just fixed the formatting of it, so I should be good to go now. =]
Waiting for the new spoilers... Vial of dragonfire better not suck :)
So some spoilers up.
Megamorph is mechanic that when it's turned face up for morph cost it gets a +1/+1 counter.
Rebound is back.
Packaging shows narset and sarkan. Guess is those are the planeswalkers.
Megamorph: morph up and get a +1/+1.
Rebound: see {world at war}
Formidable: if you control creatures with total power 8 or more, get an effect.
Dash is returning.
Bolster is returning.
Exploit: when this etb, you may sac a creature. If you do, get an effect.
New silumgar is a fun edh General, sort of like {mereke ri beret}.
New monoblack sidisi exploits for a demonic tutor.
This concludes your TL;DR for today's spoilers.
So far the rebound spells suck
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 02, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
So far the rebound spells suck
Yes, but think about Rebound with Prowess.....
Also: {Dragonlord Silumgar} is a beast, Sultai Whip decks are going to be incredible with him....
Quote from: Noblellama on March 02, 2015, 11:23:33 AM
GUYS
THE LEGENDARY DRAGONS ARE ELDER DRAGONS!!!!!!!!
This. Also kinda sad that it's actually named mega morph. Manifest was unique but this just seems lazy.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 02, 2015, 11:20:52 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 02, 2015, 11:18:02 AM
So far the rebound spells suck
Yes, but think about Rebound with Prowess.....
Also: {Dragonlord Silumgar} is a beast, Sultai Whip decks are going to be incredible with him....
SILUMGAR IS WEARING TASIGUR AS A NECKLACE!!!!
Also look at the packaging! New Sarkhan and Narset??? They look to be wearing similar armor.
Quote from: Quisequise on March 02, 2015, 11:40:51 AM
Also look at the packaging! New Sarkhan and Narset??? They look to be wearing similar armor.
Link please?
I just want Narset to be a blue white plainswalker so bad
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 02, 2015, 12:38:46 PM
The new Sidisi I feel is gonna be an black edh powerhouse. Gonna toss one in A Karador edh. If I'm not mistsken, can you sax her to her own ability to simply tutor?
I expected a "another creature" clause but there isn't one. It's also upon entry so I believe you're right.
Quote from: particle on March 02, 2015, 11:44:54 AM
Quote from: Quisequise on March 02, 2015, 11:40:51 AM
Also look at the packaging! New Sarkhan and Narset??? They look to be wearing similar armor.
Link please?
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/dragons-tarkir-packaging-2015-03-02
Oh I like the new formidable mechanic
Dragon lord Silumgar... Wonder if he had dealings with Bolas... The whole control a PW thing... Which makes me wonder if Tasigur has an unignited spark...
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 02, 2015, 12:59:30 PM
Oh I like the new formidable mechanic
Especially on a creature that puts you to 5/8 of the way there.
I just see it as the replacement for ferocious - and total power 8+ for a boosted effect is achievable on my warrior tribal. Heck rabblerabbles can get there in only a few turns... But it will probably be limited to {R}{G}
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 02, 2015, 01:05:56 PM
I just see it as the replacement for ferocious - and total power 8+ for a boosted effect is achievable on my warrior tribal. Heck rabblerabbles can get there in only a few turns... But it will probably be limited to {R}{G}
It's obviously the Temur mechanic so {U} as well.
Nah the temur are dead. It's the broods now
Temur gave up blue to live under atarka
Mardu gave up white to live under kolaghan
Abzan gave up black to live under dromoka
Sultai gave up green to live under silumgar
Jeskai gave up red to live under ojutai
So it's doubtful you'll see any tri color mechanics or themes now. Anyone who was for the khans was hunted down and killed, including the khans themselves.(someone noted seeing tasigur hanging from silumgar)
And After I read the story that was posted up here last week, I can confirm that the khans aren't even supposed to be spoken of in the brood territories etc etc
Oh my. I need to get caught up.
I'm already salivating thinking about Monastery Mentor, Jeskai Ascendency, and Rebound spells together.
Quote from: Quisequise on March 02, 2015, 02:02:20 PM
I'm already salivating thinking about Monastery Mentor, Jeskai Ascendency, and Rebound spells together.
Jeskai Tokens is getting a boost.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 02, 2015, 01:00:32 PM
Dragon lord Silumgar... Wonder if he had dealings with Bolas... The whole control a PW thing... Which makes me wonder if Tasigur has an unignited spark...
Tasigur didn't get spark its narset that got spark.
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 02, 2015, 02:41:06 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 02, 2015, 01:00:32 PM
Dragon lord Silumgar... Wonder if he had dealings with Bolas... The whole control a PW thing... Which makes me wonder if Tasigur has an unignited spark...
Tasigur didn't get spark its narset that got spark.
I know. I was just thinking. Sometimes a being has a spark, but it doesn't ignite. Thinking of Tasigur being worn by Silumgar...
So what color pw will narset be? I'm going wu!
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 02, 2015, 03:46:22 PM
So what color pw will narset be? I'm going wu!
Most likely uw
Unless wizards wants to be some sort of ba and make her 3 colors because (judging by the story she rebelled the brood) so she could have kept red somehow. (Only hearsay from tagaim which was exiled in the first set story)
Confusing I know
Megamorph. Such a creative name
Quote from: Munchlax on March 02, 2015, 05:10:49 PM
Megamorph. Such a creative name
Wish it was mighty morph
MEGAMORPH!! Wow that already got old .. Ya sounds too childish to me and tbh I just don't like the mechanic. But I guess that's all they could come up with
I wanted and was kinda expecting something like,
Creature Form {X}{G}{G}
Exile up to X cards from your hand face down. You may look at cards exiled with Creature Form. You may manifest cards exiled with Creature Form for as long as they remain exiled.
Because it always says, "the top card of your library". This is a generic-ish version of the idea.
Morphing Bolt {2}{R}
Morphing Bolt does three damage to target creature or player. As Morphing Bolt resolves manifest it instead of putting it into your graveyard.
Because that'd be hella rad.
Or a new mechanic that would appear on instants, sorceries, artifacts and enchantments. Something like,
Spell Conversion *insert cost* (If this card is face down you may turn it face up for it's spell conversion cost. If it's an instant or sorcery cast it upon paying its Spell Conversion cost.)
And then combine it with Manifest (especially from hand) to give it a Spell Conversion cost that's dirt cheap and a normal casting cost. An enchantment/artifact that gave all your spells Spell Conversion would be sick too.
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 02, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
MEGAMORPH!! Wow that already got old .. Ya sounds too childish to me and tbh I just don't like the mechanic. But I guess that's all they could come up with
I can't wait for ULTRAmorph❗️😜
Quote from: Rasser on March 02, 2015, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 02, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
MEGAMORPH!! Wow that already got old .. Ya sounds too childish to me and tbh I just don't like the mechanic. But I guess that's all they could come up with
I can't wait for ULTRAmorph❗️😜
Woah woah woah, slow down. First we need megafest. Manigafest. Manifestga. I don't know how to say it...
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 02, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: Rasser on March 02, 2015, 07:23:58 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 02, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
MEGAMORPH!! Wow that already got old .. Ya sounds too childish to me and tbh I just don't like the mechanic. But I guess that's all they could come up with
I can't wait for ULTRAmorph❗️😜
Woah woah woah, slow down. First we need megafest. Manigafest. Manifestga. I don't know how to say it...
I think you mean we need Oktoberfest first
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 02, 2015, 06:40:53 PM
I wanted and was kinda expecting something like,
Creature Form {X}{G}{G}
Exile up to X cards from your hand face down. You may look at cards exiled with Creature Form. You may manifest cards exiled with Creature Form for as long as they remain exiled.
Because it always says, "the top card of your library". This is a generic-ish version of the idea.
Morphing Bolt {2}{R}
Morphing Bolt does three damage to target creature or player. As Morphing Bolt resolves manifest it instead of putting it into your graveyard.
Because that'd be hella rad.
Or a new mechanic that would appear on instants, sorceries, artifacts and enchantments. Something like,
Spell Conversion *insert cost* (If this card is face down you may turn it face up for it's spell conversion cost. If it's an instant or sorcery cast it upon paying its Spell Conversion cost.)
And then combine it with Manifest (especially from hand) to give it a Spell Conversion cost that's dirt cheap and a normal casting cost. An enchantment/artifact that gave all your spells Spell Conversion would be sick too.
Reminiscent of Arcane.
Radiant purge1{W}
Instant
Exile target multicolor enchantment or target multicolor creature.
...Seems good.
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on March 03, 2015, 12:15:16 AM
Radiant purge1{W}
Instant
Exile target multicolor enchantment or target multicolor creature.
...Seems good.
This one subtlety oozes flavor.
Bant control is coming back hard
Quote from: Silent1236 on March 02, 2015, 11:39:37 PM
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 02, 2015, 07:27:52 PM
Manigafest.
Haha I think I pronounced that wrong.
LOL, you're not alone in reading it that way.
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on March 03, 2015, 12:15:16 AM
Radiant purge1{W}
Instant
Exile target multicolor enchantment or target multicolor creature.
...Seems good.
It annoys me to no end that it doesn't say "Mulitcolor nonland permanent, but it is still a great card. I have been looking for an excuse to go from UB to Esper, and I think I might have found it: "Exile Target Rhino, Lion, Rakshasa, or Gorgon," seems like a great sideboard card against Abzan, and it blows up Ascendencies in case anyone is running shenanigans.
If it said nonland perm it's be broken ... Ashiok Kiora Garruk for starters. Regardless I'm happy lol it aides UW Control! :D
Quote from: bravado883 on January 17, 1970, 06:56:40 AM
2{U}{W}--Instant
Choose Two--
-Return Creature with CMC 2 or Less from GY to BF
-Gain 4 Life
-Counter Target Creature Spell
-Draw a Card
NO dead modes for my UW Control deck. NO DEAD MODES.
All aboard the Cryptic Hype Train! Can't wait to play this in standard, I'm thinking UWb control
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 03, 2015, 11:40:51 AM
It infinites with a snapcaster and infinite mana yo!
How? I must be missing something.
How do I preorder singles
Scg
Quote from: bravado883 on March 03, 2015, 11:28:28 AM
No, I don't think generally {Radiant Purge}'s effect is that powerful. This card is like {Deicide}; it's rare because it's good in the format, not because it's extremely powerful in general. That being said, I literally need all the {Ojutai's Command}. Since it hasn't been mentioned on here yet:
2{U}{W}--Instant
Choose Two--
-Return Creature with CMC 2 or Less from GY to BF
-Gain 4 Life
-Counter Target Creature Spell
-Draw a Card
NO dead modes for my UW Control deck. NO DEAD MODES.
Damn that's good.
Is there any place to pre-order foils?
Usually in a week or two, try eBay also before scg establishes prices
They're gone everywhere, they already went up to lol, I got a set for 8$ from channel fireball shoulda made the call when they were still at 5$ everywhere
Preordered playsets of sidisi and silumgar
{Boltwing Marauder} looks very good for Mardu tokens.
{Harbringer of the Hunt} looks like it might be sideboard tech vs tokens. Could be good in general.
{Pristine Skywise} + {Retraction Helix} + {Briber's Purse}/{Astral Cornicopia} + {Altar of the Brood} = infinite mill. Another piece to make {Jeskai Ascendancy} combo more consistent? We have so many different paths now.
Anybody have translations on the foreign cards?
If even sees half the value of cryptic we'll be doing good
$8 preorders for shaman of meh (Carytid is better)
$8 AZ cryptic
Both doubled in price tody since announced this AM
Is he going to be nuts to!?
I'm personally not a fan of him, he won't be allowed in EDH (biorhythm is banned, so by that logic they would ban him too)
3 mana for a 2/3 double mana dork seems good for a t1elf deck, but everything else just seems like there are better options. Sure you get two mana, but for the 3 slot, unless you are gr monsters, i would think most would prefer courser
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 03:52:31 PM
$8 preorders for shaman of meh (Carytid is better)
$8 AZ cryptic
Both doubled in price tody since announced this AM
Where do you guys see the cryptics value at??
Scg preorder for dragons of tarkir
Not actual cryptic command, but a card very similar that has been previewed
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 03:56:41 PM
I'm personally not a fan of him, he won't be allowed in EDH (biorhythm is banned, so by that logic they would ban him too)
3 mana for a 2/3 double mana dork seems good for a t1elf deck, but everything else just seems like there are better options. Sure you get two mana, but for the 3 slot, unless you are gr monsters, i would think most would prefer courser
Going to have to agree. He'd be sick in EDH but he will be banned. He's not going to see too much standard play with {Sylvan Caryatid}, {Rattleclaw Mystic} and {Whisperer of the Wilds} clamouring for your non {Elvish Mystic} mana dork slots. If it wasn't creature only he'd be quite a bit better.
Quote from: Taysby on March 03, 2015, 04:06:14 PM
I'm actually not sure he'll be banned in edh. Biorhythm is good because {wrath of god} into it, which you can't do with him. (Unless I'm missing a janky combo)
{Darksteel Plate}, ect ect.
Nah he will be broken, every EDH deck runs wipes and swiftboots
Wipe
Drop guy
Boots
Tap and win game
It just makes no sense of why they would allow a biorhythm creature and not biorhythm.
Then simic would be amazing in EDH
Cyc rift
Play his ability.
I dunno about him still, he just seems suiuuuuuper janky. Perhaps the next blocks will make more sense with him
I think you people are nuts on the command hype train. It's "good" but not great
It's definitely getting its hype, was considering preordering at $4 and now they are $8 each with 10 left on scg as of 122pm PST. Pretty sure these will keep rising, then neutralizing blast will become a thing
Quote from: Taysby on March 03, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Then simic would be amazing in EDH
Cyc rift
Play his ability.
I dunno about him still, he just seems suiuuuuuper janky. Perhaps the next blocks will make more sense with him
If you have 8 power on the board, can rift AND use his ability on the same turn, you deserve to win. :P
Not hard in UG
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 04:22:53 PM
It's definitely getting its hype, was considering preordering at $4 and now they are $8 each with 10 left on scg as of 122pm PST. Pretty sure these will keep rising, then neutralizing blast will become a thing
they'll rise till people realize they're not as good as they hoped. Then they'll crash.
This one is a lot like the non-cryptic commands from lorwyn.
I really wanna see the ub one though.
Quote from: DimirOverlord1300 on March 03, 2015, 04:37:40 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 03, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 03, 2015, 04:17:16 PM
Then simic would be amazing in EDH
Cyc rift
Play his ability.
I dunno about him still, he just seems suiuuuuuper janky. Perhaps the next blocks will make more sense with him
If you have 8 power on the board, can rift AND use his ability on the same turn, you deserve to win. :P
Not hard in UG
Kruphix would be ridiculous.
Quote from: bravado883 on March 03, 2015, 04:45:01 PM
I'm not sure why they're so expensive, but for UW Control I haven't heard an argument against the card that I agree with--it's an automatic 2-of, no questions asked. It's my favorite card spoiled BY FAR.
Still, a 2-of in a Tier 2 standard deck won't support an $8 price tag for long. Unless UW Control gets really big or someone figures out a way to make this work in modern, my guess is this card will settle in around $2-3.
The {Snapcaster Mage} synergies are pretty sweet. But agreed.
Especially since I play UW Control I have to disagree with you guys Ojutais Command is not that good ... I mean it's 1st 2 abilities are almost completely irrelevant in the deck and I'd rather run Nullify than this sure nullify won't cantrip but at least it grabs a T3 Rabbler on the Draw.
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 03, 2015, 06:09:44 PM
Especially since I play UW Control I have to disagree with you guys Ojutais Command is not that good ... I mean it's 1st 2 abilities are almost completely irrelevant in the deck and I'd rather run Nullify than this sure nullify won't cantrip but at least it grabs a T3 Rabbler on the Draw.
As a fellow control player, I think its worth it at least as a two of, but I agree that {Nullify} is probably better in the deck. That said, I was running {Fall of the Gavel} during RTR-THS so I have a thing for overcosted value...
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 03, 2015, 06:12:42 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 03, 2015, 06:09:44 PM
Especially since I play UW Control I have to disagree with you guys Ojutais Command is not that good ... I mean it's 1st 2 abilities are almost completely irrelevant in the deck and I'd rather run Nullify than this sure nullify won't cantrip but at least it grabs a T3 Rabbler on the Draw.
As a fellow control player, I think its worth it at least as a two of, but I agree that {Nullify} is probably better in the deck. That said, I was running {Fall of the Gavel} during RTR-THS so I have a thing for overcosted value...
Ew lol :P idk I hope I'm wrong bc it looks like a cool card but I just prefer nullify
I think command will see decent play in U/Wx control decks. Vs Abzan midrange decks, it counters and gives you needed card advantage, vs R/Wx decks it counters a stoke, and gains you another 4 for stoke which is very relevant. If a tempo deck comes to power this will be a great card, counter your seige rhino, bring back my seeker is decent if a deck like that arises. Oh, and great card to bridge to end hostilities. Also could relevantly bring back murk lurkers or arashin clarics
Quote from: Hunteroffire9 on March 03, 2015, 10:08:02 PM
I think command will see decent play in U/Wx control decks. Vs Abzan midrange decks, it counters and gives you needed card advantage, vs R/Wx decks it counters a stoke, and gains you another 4 for stoke which is very relevant. If a tempo deck comes to power this will be a great card, counter your seige rhino, bring back my seeker is decent if a deck like that arises. Oh, and great card to bridge to end hostilities. Also could relevantly bring back murk lurkers or arashin clarics
It doesn't counter {Stoke the Flames}. It gains 4 life though. Creature spells only.
So thoughts on how this set will play out so far?
Fate was loads of fun to play.
Every single ability is situational except the draw. That's not really where you want to be in a control deck. No one really plays essence scatter as is for a reason. I really wish it had a bigger effect on the board.
If you're in the late game and are able to bring back a creature like the grand ,aster why are you not playing Elspeth or Ugin those turns instead?
What do you guys think of buying into sidisi at 4.50 each?
Oh snap... Another Dragonlord
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/spoilers/148-dragons-of-tarkir
Well, Kolaghan isn't worth putting in my kaalia deck, was really hoping for a dragonlord I could use
Dragonlord Kolaghan
4BR
Legendary Creature - Elder Dragon
Flying, haste
Other creatures you control have haste.
Whenever an opponent casts a creature or planeswalker spell with the same name as a card in his or her graveyard, that player loses 10 life.
Well, the haste to all creatures could come from a cheaper source, and it's second ability is totally useless in EDH. It will severely limit options for some standard decks though. Think delver.
Or wait, delver would exile before casting right?
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 04, 2015, 03:54:51 AM
Dragonlord Kolaghan
4BR
Legendary Creature - Elder Dragon
Flying, haste
Other creatures you control have haste.
Whenever an opponent casts a creature or planeswalker spell with the same name as a card in his or her graveyard, that player loses 10 life.
Well, the haste to all creatures could come from a cheaper source, and it's second ability is totally useless in EDH. It will severely limit options for some standard decks though. Think delver.
Or wait, delver would exile before casting right?
Huh? You mean delve not delver right? {delver of secrets} is not in standard... But I do think the last ability will be funny in standard. Many decks run tons of 4 ofs so that might change.
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 04, 2015, 03:54:51 AM
Or wait, delver would exile before casting right?
Technically you announce that you are casting before you pay for a spell (including Delve, source: http://magiccards.info/rule/601-casting-spells.html ), but I think this will come down to whether or not the ability checks again during resolution and when the ability triggers in the sequencing. TL;DR: we will have to wait for the FAQ
Quote from: MarduArrow on March 04, 2015, 02:18:58 AM
Well, Kolaghan isn't worth putting in my kaalia deck, was really hoping for a dragonlord I could use
Well against relentless rats or Shadowborn apostle it's good
Quote from: Noblellama on March 04, 2015, 07:57:57 AM
Be happy edh players, that second ability ensures you get this baby girl cheap for your edh decks :)
Why should I be happy. I would much rather run {Fervor} or it's Dragons, Dragon Tempest. 6 mana to give everything haste? No
Thanks. Since Kolaghan is kinda being pushed by Wizards in all the promo art, I'm a little upset with their choice.
That second ability of kolaghan seems odd given he is an Elder Dragon. It is of no use in EDH. I get they design cards for all different formats but it still seems odd to print an ability on an Elder Dragon that would be pointless for EDH.
Can't upload pic
Narset pw spoiled!
Narset transcendent
2wu. Loyalty 6
+1 look at top card if it's a nonland, noncreature card you may reveal it put it in hand
-2 when you cast your next instant or sorcery it gains rebound.
-9 you get emblem " your opponents can't cast non creature spells"
JEEZUS CHRIST I NEED ONE.
Fuuuuu narset pw
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 04, 2015, 11:06:16 AM
I'd also like to point out that it looks like goblins have no idea what they look like in this set.... We have the monkey-warrior looking ones from Khans, the reprint of {Dragon Fodder} depicts Krenko-esque ones, and the goblin on the dragonmaster servant looks like a little fuzzy blue monkey thing.
They're from different regions of Tarkir
I mean wut Narset so good
New green mega morph lord actually looks good.
I'm not impressed with Narset. +1 is a situational card draw. -2 is copy your next spell ({Chandra, the Firebrand} showed us how mediocre that is) -9 is the only really good ability, and it's not that impressive.
{Dragon Fodder} is nice to see. More fuel for my Jalira deck and tokens in general. Depending on how this set turn out I may start putting together a {Narset, Enlightened Master} deck.
I'm clinging to the hope of a card that's better than {Stormtide Leviathan} for Jalira and Reanimator.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 12:22:59 PM
I'm not impressed with Narset. +1 is a situational card draw. -2 is copy your next spell ({Chandra, the Firebrand} showed us how mediocre that is) -9 is the only really good ability, and it's not that impressive.
{Dragon Fodder} is nice to see. More fuel for my Jalira deck and tokens in general. Depending on how this set turn out I may start putting together a {Narset, Enlightened Master} deck.
I'm clinging to the hope of a card that's better than {Stormtide Leviathan} for Jalira and Reanimator.
starting at 6 loyalty is pretty nuts.
Narset and {nyx-fleece ram} are gunna be such good pals
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 04, 2015, 12:54:39 PM
Starting at 6, needs 4 turns to go off... I'd guys if I wanted 4 turns to win a game in azorius I'd rather play {Azor's Elecutors}. The card is pretty good Im not going to shirk that but all planes walkers take at least 2 or 3 turns before they ultimate and she is no exceptuon. She could have had a +2 and started at 3 and there would be next to no difference imo
It'll be tough to kill her the first turn she's out.
She started at 24$ preorder, star city now has her at 40$
Couple left at troll and toad for 30$
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 04, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
She started at 24$ preorder, star city now has her at 40$
Couple left at troll and toad for 30$
Seriously doubt it'll be a $40 planes walker but it's possible. I've been wrong many times before (trading away {Liliana of the Veil} At $30, ugh)
Trading for her no doubt or hoping to open her
Quote from: Falcon182 on March 04, 2015, 01:23:09 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 04, 2015, 01:19:17 PM
She started at 24$ preorder, star city now has her at 40$
Couple left at troll and toad for 30$
Seriously doubt it'll be a $40 planes walker but it's possible. I've been wrong many times before (trading away {Liliana of the Veil} At $30, ugh)
I had a set of lily's in standard, I traded on rotation... I know dem feels
I think she'll do what sarkhan did
I'd be super stoked to crack one but unless that happens or her price drops I won't be getting one.
Having 6 to start at 4 mana is sweet. However I just don't think her first two abilities are good enough. If it was look at the top three and reveal non-land non-creature, put rest on bottom she'd be so much better. I expect her -2 to be used on {Treasure Cruise} and {Dig Through Time} most often. Could be sick on {Temporal Trespass}.
If her -2 could be used to keep rebounding the same spell...too bad it says from hand.
Narset PW has a big Ole booty at 6 loyalty! Had to say that 😜
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 01:44:07 PM
Could be sick on {Temporal Trespass}.
Are you sure this works? It exiles as part of resolution, so I'm not sure if it exiles itself or rebounds itself.
I'd love to setup a Narset/Soulfire combo if it works. Use Narset to rebound the spell, then Soulfire the rebound back to hand and do it all over again...
Edit: grumble Soulfire stupid has to be from hand wording...
Quote from: E.kann1 on March 04, 2015, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 01:44:07 PM
Could be sick on {Temporal Trespass}.
Are you sure this works? It exiles as part of resolution, so I'm not sure if it exiles itself or rebounds itself.
I actually thought that as I reread my post. Looked it up and it doesn't work. :c
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
This block with all 10 fetches would have been ridiculous
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 04, 2015, 05:11:50 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
This block with all 10 fetches would have been ridiculous
#voiceofreason
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
it makes sense for more reasons than this. To extend this argument.......let me ask this question. .....why bother with this fetch land that gets any basic when you already have 10 that fetches in the block?
Someone will correct me and say with the new changes to rotations....technically this set is paired with M16 as far as "block structure" but I think you guys understand my main point ;)
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
Assuming 15 Basics, there wouldn't be room for the fetches (number wise). This means the chance of fetches is very low, but not zero.
Edit: just to be realistic most large sets have 20 Basics, but Avacyn Restored only had 15 and Gatecrash didn't have any. Chances are crazy low now (we're talking 1-5% range), but it may still happen.
I think we're clutching at straws if we're still hoping for enemy fetches. I'll gladly cop it on the chin if it happens, but not having any enemy combos in the set and so far a wee smidgen of multicolour hate is my biggest indication to give up on {Marsh Flats} and {Misty Rainforest}. But at least it means we can start hoping for other things now we have the space. Like more 2-3 drop dragons outside {Dragon Hatchling}s.
The new planeswalker! https://m.facebook.com/ThePlaneswalkerPantheon/photos/a.138741062998903.1073741838.138614316344911/342132459326428/?type=1&source=48
Quote from: Teysa karlov on March 04, 2015, 06:39:11 PM
The new planeswalker! https://m.facebook.com/ThePlaneswalkerPantheon/photos/a.138741062998903.1073741838.138614316344911/342132459326428/?type=1&source=48
Reading those comments gave me cancer...broken? OP? {Venser the Sojurner}'a emblem. {Dack Fayden}'s emblem. And those have better alternate abilities. The only real kicker is the loyalty but {Jace, the Living Guildpact} was just one off and everybodu hated him. (I did too until I cracked two and used him). People flip out too much without realizing what it takes to get a PW from 6-9 loyalty vs decks that care. *sighs*
Still want one though...
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 04, 2015, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
Assuming 15 Basics, there wouldn't be room for the fetches (number wise). This means the chance of fetches is very low, but not zero.
Edit: just to be realistic most large sets have 20 Basics, but Avacyn Restored only had 15 and Gatecrash didn't have any. Chances are crazy low now (we're talking 1-5% range), but it may still happen.
Looks like only 15 basic. Forest, island, mountain, plains, swamp. All alphabetically after evolving wilds. 3 new arts each.
3x5=15
248+15= 263. So that leaves 1 slot somewhere between.
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 07:37:37 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 04, 2015, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
Assuming 15 Basics, there wouldn't be room for the fetches (number wise). This means the chance of fetches is very low, but not zero.
Edit: just to be realistic most large sets have 20 Basics, but Avacyn Restored only had 15 and Gatecrash didn't have any. Chances are crazy low now (we're talking 1-5% range), but it may still happen.
Looks like only 15 basic. Forest, island, mountain, plains, swamp. All alphabetically after evolving wilds. 3 new arts each.
3x5=15
248+15= 263. So that leaves 1 slot somewhere between.
Just {Scalding Tarn}. Nothing else.
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 07:37:37 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 04, 2015, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
Assuming 15 Basics, there wouldn't be room for the fetches (number wise). This means the chance of fetches is very low, but not zero.
Edit: just to be realistic most large sets have 20 Basics, but Avacyn Restored only had 15 and Gatecrash didn't have any. Chances are crazy low now (we're talking 1-5% range), but it may still happen.
Looks like only 15 basic. Forest, island, mountain, plains, swamp. All alphabetically after evolving wilds. 3 new arts each.
3x5=15
248+15= 263. So that leaves 1 slot somewhere between.
Most likely but not confirmed
But if wizards wants to throw us off and only do 2 of each basic. then all fetches are possible.
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
But if wizards wants to throw us off and only do 2 of each basic. then all fetches are possible.
They don't need to print zendikar fetches again. $18-40 is not unreasonable for cards that can be used in every format. Printing the ally ones was enough to bring the prices down to a reasonable level and you can use ally fetches if you can't afford enemy ones.
Quote from: Falcon182 on March 04, 2015, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
But if wizards wants to throw us off and only do 2 of each basic. then all fetches are possible.
They don't need to print zendikar fetches again. $18-40 is not unreasonable for cards that can be used in every format. Printing the ally ones was enough to bring the prices down to a reasonable level and you can use ally fetches if you can't afford enemy ones.
Tarns already at $60, where will it be after Modern Masters 2 if it doesn't get a reprint? At least in the case of Scalding Tarn we could be looking at $100 fetch again this summer
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 04, 2015, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Falcon182 on March 04, 2015, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 07:46:44 PM
But if wizards wants to throw us off and only do 2 of each basic. then all fetches are possible.
They don't need to print zendikar fetches again. $18-40 is not unreasonable for cards that can be used in every format. Printing the ally ones was enough to bring the prices down to a reasonable level and you can use ally fetches if you can't afford enemy ones.
Tarns already at $60, where will it be after Modern Masters 2 if it doesn't get a reprint? At least in the case of Scalding Tarn we could be looking at $100 fetch again this summer
Seriously doubt it because there are $10 alternatives that are just as good 98% of the time. What they should be concerned with is $200+ Tarmogoyf.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 06:58:31 PM
Quote from: Teysa karlov on March 04, 2015, 06:39:11 PM
The new planeswalker! https://m.facebook.com/ThePlaneswalkerPantheon/photos/a.138741062998903.1073741838.138614316344911/342132459326428/?type=1&source=48
Reading those comments gave me cancer...broken? OP? {Venser the Sojurner}'a emblem. {Dack Fayden}'s emblem. And those have better alternate abilities. The only real kicker is the loyalty but {Jace, the Living Guildpact} was just one off and everybodu hated him. (I did too until I cracked two and used him). People flip out too much without realizing what it takes to get a PW from 6-9 loyalty vs decks that care. *sighs*
Still want one though...
She's pretty .loving. good man
Why does {dragonlord kolaghan} not have text similiar to {maelstrom wanderer}? Creatures you control have haste instead of himself having haste and other creatures you control have haste.
Quote from: particle on March 05, 2015, 04:24:49 AM
Why does {dragonlord kolaghan} not have text similiar to {maelstrom wanderer}? Creatures you control have haste instead of himself having haste and other creatures you control have haste.
It allows him to have haste in other zones, such as the GY and your library. {Maelstrom wanderer's} ability only applies to him (and other creatures) while on the battlefield.
Quote from: Skullguy725 on March 05, 2015, 06:59:00 AM
Quote from: particle on March 05, 2015, 04:24:49 AM
Why does {dragonlord kolaghan} not have text similiar to {maelstrom wanderer}? Creatures you control have haste instead of himself having haste and other creatures you control have haste.
It allows him to have haste in other zones, such as the GY and your library. {Maelstrom wanderer's} ability only applies to him (and other creatures) while on the battlefield.
Specifically, I'd say {Soulflayer} synergy
New mythic spoiled:
Risen executioner 2BB
Creature-Zombie Warrior
Risen executioner can't block
Other zombies you control get +1/+1
You may cast Risen Executioner from your graveyard if you pay 1 extra for each other creature in your graveyard.
4/3
Quote from: bravado883 on March 05, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
Atarka's Command {R}{G}
Instant
Choose Two:
-Your opponents can't gain life this turn.
-Atarka's Command deals 3 damage to each opponent.
-You may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
-Creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain Reach until end of turn.
Outside of standard, this might be essentially a fifth {Skullcrack} for burn, and I'm not sure burn needs that at all.
Quote from: bravado883 on March 05, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
Atarka's Command {R}{G}
Instant
Choose Two:
-Your opponents can't gain life this turn.
-Atarka's Command deals 3 damage to each opponent.
-You may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
-Creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain Reach until end of turn.
Seems standard playable. Skullcrack 60% of the time, but ramping out T3 polukranos is possible with this and nice combat trick. I like it
How does the life gain interact with {Resolute Archangel}? Also I can see it played in Modern burn bc it has a pump ability that can really do some damage
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 05, 2015, 09:53:37 AM
How does the life gain interact with {Resolute Archangel}? Also I can see it played in Modern burn bc it has a pump ability that can really do some damage
I believe it is considered life gain. I know it interacts with {Ageless Entity} in the same manner as {Arbiter of Knollridge}.
Quote from: Cender on March 05, 2015, 10:10:33 AM
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 05, 2015, 09:53:37 AM
How does the life gain interact with {Resolute Archangel}? Also I can see it played in Modern burn bc it has a pump ability that can really do some damage
I believe it is considered life gain. I know it interacts with {Ageless Entity} in the same manner as {Arbiter of Knollridge}.
This is correct. Whenever a players life total is set to a certain amount, they gain or lose that much.
Quote from: bravado883 on March 05, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
Atarka's Command {R}{G}
Instant
Choose Two:
-Your opponents can't gain life this turn.
-Atarka's Command deals 3 damage to each opponent.
-You may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.
-Creatures you control get +1/+1 and gain Reach until end of turn.
This thing is good. Totally makes up for the terrible gruul charm
Edit: also
4GW (6cmc)
Dragonlord Dromokoa
Flying life link
During your turn, opponents cannot cast spells
5/7
http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/cards/dragonlorddromoka.html
Bant control for sure
We got {zurgo bellstriker} he's cool one drop 2/2 with dash for 1R that can't block creatures with power 2 or greater. Also {dromaka dragonlord} which seems awesome for edh to say no countering my spells.
Quote from: particle on March 05, 2015, 11:05:28 AM
We got {zurgo bellstriker} he's cool one drop 2/2 with dash for 1R that can't block creatures with power 2 or greater. Also {dromaka dragonlord} which seems awesome for edh to say no countering my spells.
Preorders of Zurgo are going to be nuts. Dromoka is also a test for gw aggro as a bomb in the side.
I dunno, zurgo became so weak through time, he just a bell ringer now
And also the black mythic is terrible.
{ojutai exemplars} seems really good to me.
Can Wizards please stop sucking U/W control players collective xxxx pls.
Quote from: Noblellama on March 05, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
Check that raptor yo...
And those Exemplars can dodge any board wipe or kill spell...
He can only dodge targeted kill spells. He'll still die to crux of fate since he returns right away not at EOT or anything.
So Zurgo was the dinner bell b!tch before he became khan? Seems plausible
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
So Zurgo was the dinner bell b!tch before he became khan? Seems plausible
Beets what Tasigur has become. 😛
Quote from: Rasser on March 05, 2015, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
So Zurgo was the dinner bell b!tch before he became khan? Seems plausible
Beets what Tasigur has become. 😛
They made a new one? I have not seen him
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: Rasser on March 05, 2015, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
So Zurgo was the dinner bell b!tch before he became khan? Seems plausible
Beets what Tasigur has become. 😛
They made a new one? I have not seen him
Look real close around silumgars neck
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: Rasser on March 05, 2015, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
So Zurgo was the dinner bell b!tch before he became khan? Seems plausible
Beets what Tasigur has become. 😛
They made a new one? I have not seen him
No he's draped around Silumgar's neck now
Quote from: particle on March 05, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on March 05, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
Check that raptor yo...
And those Exemplars can dodge any board wipe or kill spell...
He can only dodge targeted kill spells. He'll still die to crux of fate since he returns right away not at EOT or anything.
I'm confused about how that works. Could you explain it pls?
Quote from: Skullguy725 on March 05, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: particle on March 05, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on March 05, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
Check that raptor yo...
And those Exemplars can dodge any board wipe or kill spell...
He can only dodge targeted kill spells. He'll still die to crux of fate since he returns right away not at EOT or anything.
I'm confused about how that works. Could you explain it pls?
Opponent casts {Murderous Cut}. You cast a non-creature spell, and select to exile Exemplars. It's ability resolves and it comes back, but it "dodged" {Murderous Cut} as it's considered to be a new creature, not the one targeted by {Murderous Cut}. (Then your non-creature spell tries to resolve, then {Murderous Cut} counters itself because it no longer has a target)
Opponent casts {Crux of Fate}. You cast a non-creature spell and exile Exemplars. Exemplar's ability resolves, returning it to the battlefield. Your non-creature spell resolves. {Crux of Fate} goes off and kills everything non-dragon, including Exemplars. He will be present at the time of the wipe and die.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 05, 2015, 01:57:44 PM
Quote from: Skullguy725 on March 05, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
Quote from: particle on March 05, 2015, 11:58:47 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on March 05, 2015, 11:38:28 AM
Check that raptor yo...
And those Exemplars can dodge any board wipe or kill spell...
He can only dodge targeted kill spells. He'll still die to crux of fate since he returns right away not at EOT or anything.
I'm confused about how that works. Could you explain it pls?
Opponent casts {Murderous Cut}. You cast a non-creature spell, and select to exile Exemplars. It's ability resolves and it comes back, but it "dodged" {Murderous Cut} as it's considered to be a new creature, not the one targeted by {Murderous Cut}. (Then your non-creature spell tries to resolve, then {Murderous Cut} counters itself because it no longer has a target)
Opponent casts {Crux of Fate}. You cast a non-creature spell and exile Exemplars. Exemplar's ability resolves, returning it to the battlefield. Your non-creature spell resolves. {Crux of Fate} goes off and kills everything non-dragon, including Exemplars. He will be present at the time of the wipe and die.
Thanks, that does make sense now
And that does make the white mythic seem a lot better
Quote from: bravado883 on March 05, 2015, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on March 05, 2015, 11:52:52 AM
Can Wizards please stop sucking U/W control players collective xxxx pls.
Because U/W Control has been so dominant.
In Ravnica/ Theros standard, it was one of only two or three Secks to play. Now with the new set, it seems like it might happen again.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 05, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
You mean azban versus U/W control? What other decks really are played... b/W warriors is present but isn't really the biggest thing around
W/R aggro is a big thing currently.
Quote from: bravado883 on March 05, 2015, 01:57:37 PM
Indeeeeeed....
Anticipate 1{U}
Instant
Look at the top 3 cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
So, can't deny WotC is being nice to me right now.
*sighs* Wizards just doesn't want a good cantrip in modern...
I/W heroic is still alive and kicking. My current version of Mono Blue Devotion has been doing extremely well, but of course nobody else is playing it.
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 05, 2015, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: Rasser on March 05, 2015, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
So Zurgo was the dinner bell b!tch before he became khan? Seems plausible
Beets what Tasigur has become. 😛
They made a new one? I have not seen him
Look real close around silumgars neck
Haha that is awesome. I take it that was confirmed to be tasigur?
I don't like kolaghan's lack of flavor text.
I just saw what appeared to be a force of will reprint, not sure if it's legit or not
(http://i.imgur.com/fHJu88b.png)
Quote from: MarduArrow on March 05, 2015, 04:48:41 PM
I just saw what appeared to be a force of will reprint, not sure if it's legit or not
(http://i.imgur.com/fHJu88b.png)
Holy bejeezes!!! Preorder out the fucfhcxgvxg out these.... Fucfhcxgvxg I hope that's hchvgvc true!!!
I will lose my kind if that's legit...source?
Quote from: MarduArrow on March 05, 2015, 04:48:41 PM
I just saw what appeared to be a force of will reprint, not sure if it's legit or not
(http://i.imgur.com/fHJu88b.png)
Clear fake. Look at the trademark date. 2-15? And the set symbol is too small. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars. Lol
Someone I know shared it on Facebook
Quote from: DrainCleaner on March 05, 2015, 04:55:02 PM
Quote from: MarduArrow on March 05, 2015, 04:48:41 PM
I just saw what appeared to be a force of will reprint, not sure if it's legit or not
(http://i.imgur.com/fHJu88b.png)
Clear fake. Look at the trademark date. 2-15? And the set symbol is too small. Do not pass go. Do not collect 200 dollars. Lol
He's right. Thank God.
The art looks real enough
I didn't even notice the date 😞
But dat art... Dragon like "whateves, try again"
I'm pretty sure that is spoiled artwork for an unspoiled card though.
{Logic Knot}! Except that delve isn't back. :c
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 02:23:47 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 05, 2015, 01:48:25 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 01:45:44 PM
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Quote from: cltrn81 on March 05, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
So Zurgo was the dinner bell b!tch before he became khan? Seems plausible
Beets what Tasigur has become. 😛
They made a new one? I have not seen him
Look real close around silumgars neck
Haha that is awesome. I take it that was confirmed to be tasigur?
http://mtg-realm.tumblr.com/post/112603378526/magic-the-gathering-silumgar-now-then-image
So does he sunburn his enemies to death?
(http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/cards/sunscorchregent.jpg)
Not very intimidating!
He's abducting them...
Quote from: TheRagingMage on March 05, 2015, 05:57:04 PM
So does he sunburn his enemies to death?
(http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/cards/sunscorchregent.jpg)
Not very intimidating!
Have you ever seen third-degree sunburns? Very nasty stuff... And life-threatening
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 05, 2015, 06:18:36 PM
He's abducting them...
I a, so altering him into a UFO.
Quote from: DrainCleaner on March 05, 2015, 05:14:15 PM
I'm pretty sure that is spoiled artwork for an unspoiled card though.
Yep
So if you've looked at Dragons of Tarkir spoilers... I think a few certain jerks on this feed owe me an apology... 👍😆
What I want to know is if anyone else is a bit underwhelmed by Atarka's command...
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 06, 2015, 09:52:42 AM
What I want to know is if anyone else is a bit underwhelmed by Atarka's command...
🙋
Quote from: Jbarn117 on March 06, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
So if you've looked at Dragons of Tarkir spoilers... I think a few certain jerks on this feed owe me an apology... 👍😆
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 17, 2014, 02:14:42 PM
Sarkhan goes back in time to stop Nicol Bolas from destroying the other Elder Dragons, an event that apparently made magic as we know it.
Everything is about to change.
If they were jerks, then they need to apologize for that but what you said isn't precisely accurate.
Nicol Bolas still killed the Elder Dragons from his plane. There were powerful dragons on this plane that only became Elder Dragons due to Ugin not dying.
{Atarka's Command} is pretty sick. None of the modes are "dead". I mean sure the gain life mode isn't as good as {Skullcrack} because it doesn't prevent damage prevention. But still. What kills the card is the {G} in it's mana cost. I don't think it's worth splashing for. Then again it opens up {Destructive Revelry} too. Idk. I just think it's a solid card.
{Ultimate Price} reprint per Mythic Spoiler.
Now this one... This is a command I can get behind
But {3}{U}{B}? That's a lot for any counterspell. Too rich for my blood...
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 10:50:31 AM
But {3}{U}{B}? That's a lot for any counterspell. Too rich for my blood...
Doesn't have to be a counter spell. Can just be a huge tempo swing. Kill your guy, bounce your other guy, make you waste your next turn recasting that guy.
And no ones got anything to say about the new {aetherling} ?
Quote from: lotrwk on March 06, 2015, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 10:50:31 AM
But {3}{U}{B}? That's a lot for any counterspell. Too rich for my blood...
Doesn't have to be a counter spell. Can just be a huge tempo swing. Kill your guy, bounce your other guy, make you waste your next turn recasting that guy.
Even as a tempo card that's expensive.
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 06, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
And no ones got anything to say about the new {aetherling} ?
Can't gain unblockable, but seems pretty decent
Quote from: lotrwk on March 06, 2015, 10:59:19 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 06, 2015, 10:58:07 AM
And no ones got anything to say about the new {aetherling} ?
Can't gain unblockable, but seems pretty decent
It's also 3 cmc less
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 10:58:25 AM
Quote from: lotrwk on March 06, 2015, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 10:50:31 AM
But {3}{U}{B}? That's a lot for any counterspell. Too rich for my blood...
Doesn't have to be a counter spell. Can just be a huge tempo swing. Kill your guy, bounce your other guy, make you waste your next turn recasting that guy.
Even as a tempo card that's expensive.
I have to agree here. The thing should have cost less or at least have had a better kill mode (-5/-5 or Ultimate Price or Doom Blade or something). Another thing is that you have to have targets for at least two modes when you cast it, restricting the card greatly where as with Ojutai's Command you can just cycle it or gain life
Edit: it says Holland permanent so you can voice a land, still not good
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 10:58:25 AM
Quote from: lotrwk on March 06, 2015, 10:55:38 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 10:50:31 AM
But {3}{U}{B}? That's a lot for any counterspell. Too rich for my blood...
Doesn't have to be a counter spell. Can just be a huge tempo swing. Kill your guy, bounce your other guy, make you waste your next turn recasting that guy.
Even as a tempo card that's expensive.
I think I agree with this, I'd rather be playing a bomb or dig for that mana
{Shorecrasher Elemental}. It's a terrible excuse for an {AEtherling}. If it had unblockable or even flying it'd be that much better. But here's the kicker. Megamorph is extremely stupid on this card. Pay {3} to put it down as a morph. Which you'll never do because it's its casting cost just colourless. And you'd have to pay {4}{U} to flip for a +1/+1 counter then lose the +1/+1 counter to his first ability. Oh but wait the first ability makes him come back face down so if you want to save him again it takes {4}{U}{U}. And you lose the bloody counter. Stupid, stupid STUPID! I knew this mechanic was going to ruin good cards. A 5 mana investment for a +1/+1 counter is pathetic as hell and it was forced into the first ability which would have been really good. I knew Megamorph was going to ruin good cards.
The best thing about this card is the {U}{U}{U} cost for my Mono Blue Devotion deck.
Yeah mono blue yeah I could see that
Lol the new triple blue 3/3 is not Ætherling in the least.
T1 {Hypnotic Siren}
T2 {Negate}/{Nullify}
T3 {Shorecrasher Elemental}
T4 {Master of Waves}
Looks good on paper. I don't know how I feel about him fighting with T3 {Dissolve} and {Thassa, God of the Sea} though.
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on March 06, 2015, 11:27:21 AM
Lol the new triple blue 3/3 is not Ætherling in the least.
See my long rant. Agreed.
What yall think about {roast} ?
Eats brimaz
Rhino
Etc
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 06, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
What yall think about {roast} ?
Eats brimaz
Rhino
Etc
A little pissed we just got {Bathe in Dragonfire} and we now have one at 2 that deals more damage, but I really like the card in general.
EDIT: Remember that PAX East Magic Panel is at 3pm /if/ fetches are in this set, it would be announced here. If not announced here, we can pretty much definitively say no fetches.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 06, 2015, 11:44:21 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 06, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
What yall think about {roast} ?
Eats brimaz
Rhino
Etc
A little pissed we just got {Bathe in Dragonfire} and we now have one at 2 that deals more damage, but I really like the card in general.
EDIT: Remember that PAX East Magic Panel is at 3pm /if/ fetches are in this set, it would be announced here. If not announced here, we can pretty much definitively say no fetches.
I'd expect planeswalker #2 gets spoiled then. And maybe a reprint that's ok for standard. Maybe both at the same time? Lol
{dragonlord atarka} spoiled by Cedric Phillips on star city games. 5 red green 8/8 flying trample, when it etbs deals 5 Dmg divided as you choose among creatures and walkers your opponents control.
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/30422_Preview-Card-Dragonlord-Atarka.html
Lackluster
The dimir charm is gonna be are only way to ki PWs post theros with a spell. That's Gonna suck.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 06, 2015, 12:51:01 PM
The dimir charm is gonna be are only way to ki PWs post theros with a spell. That's Gonna suck.
{Utter end} brah which I Think is better than the charm tbh but if nothing else it's something.
Either way removal looking lame in the future
If you could burn the opponent with atarka I'd like it better
And yes removal is Eh, well I dunno the new white card could be used i suppose
The lava axe is dividable how you choose too :D
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 06, 2015, 12:55:47 PM
Either way removal looking lame in the future
Disagree. Cut, new white and red removal in DoT, and utter end lightning strike etc
Quote from: Cender on March 06, 2015, 11:59:18 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 06, 2015, 11:44:21 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 06, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
What yall think about {roast} ?
Eats brimaz
Rhino
Etc
A little pissed we just got {Bathe in Dragonfire} and we now have one at 2 that deals more damage, but I really like the card in general.
EDIT: Remember that PAX East Magic Panel is at 3pm /if/ fetches are in this set, it would be announced here. If not announced here, we can pretty much definitively say no fetches.
I'd expect planeswalker #2 gets spoiled then. And maybe a reprint that's ok for standard. Maybe both at the same time? Lol
I expect the next walker to be another sarkan. Quiet possibly a 3 color. If not then just 2 color. No mono.
Quote from: Cender on March 06, 2015, 10:04:50 AM
Quote from: Jbarn117 on March 06, 2015, 09:48:11 AM
So if you've looked at Dragons of Tarkir spoilers... I think a few certain jerks on this feed owe me an apology... 👍😆
Quote from: Jbarn117 on November 17, 2014, 02:14:42 PM
Sarkhan goes back in time to stop Nicol Bolas from destroying the other Elder Dragons, an event that apparently made magic as we know it.
Everything is about to change.
If they were jerks, then they need to apologize for that but what you said isn't precisely accurate.
Nicol Bolas still killed the Elder Dragons from his plane. There were powerful dragons on this plane that only became Elder Dragons due to Ugin not dying.
👆
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on March 06, 2015, 01:23:27 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 06, 2015, 12:55:47 PM
Either way removal looking lame in the future
Disagree. Cut, new white and red removal in DoT, and utter end lightning strike etc
Mainly speaking instant PW wise, it goes from 3 mana to 4/5 mana and multicolored.
Just thinking PW wise, that's nt that great
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 06, 2015, 01:50:02 PM
New dragon gets +2/+2 when you cast a non creature spell....
You know they thought about Megaprowess as a name for it
I lol'd.
Metamorph
Megaprowess
And all I want is a mega metagross
LOLOLOL Check out these necklaces that certain Magic Employees are wearing at PAX East:
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/17084763f4a52a643acba8f616c3b7fe/tumblr_nksv3sEBRR1u9beo8o1_500.jpg)
Wtf
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 06, 2015, 02:23:03 PM
LOLOLOL Check out these necklaces that certain Magic Employees are wearing at PAX East:
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/17084763f4a52a643acba8f616c3b7fe/tumblr_nksv3sEBRR1u9beo8o1_500.jpg)
I want one!
Us community managers are getting into the Dragons of Tarkir spirit with some Silumgar-inspired accessories.
You guys see how on the new uw dragon that has super prowess how his flavor text is somewhat obscured. Which dragon speaker?
Quote from: particle on March 06, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
You guys see how on the new uw dragon that has super prowess how his flavor text is somewhat obscured. Which dragon speaker?
When is the pax announcement? 3pm east coast?
Quote from: particle on March 06, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
You guys see how on the new uw dragon that has super prowess how his flavor text is somewhat obscured.
That's because the card was spoiled through Wizards on Tumblr: the flavor text is obscured because of the way the person was holding the card:
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/aa8b655c5ad03728bf5564950bb73958/tumblr_nksz8uffDR1u9beo8o1_1280.jpg)
Quote from: Falcon182 on March 06, 2015, 02:43:23 PM
Quote from: particle on March 06, 2015, 02:39:46 PM
You guys see how on the new uw dragon that has super prowess how his flavor text is somewhat obscured. Which dragon speaker?
When is the pax announcement? 3pm east coast?
Yes, on http://www.twitch.tv/pax2
At least 5 cycles of dragons already confirmed.
Ojutai spoiled and Sarkhan is Temur
Sarkhn:
2UGR
4 starting loyalty
+1: draw a card and add one mana of any color
-2: put a 4/4 dragon on the field
-8: search your library for any number of dragons and put them on the field
Called it! Sarkahn unbroken. 3 color!!
2ugr
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 06, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
At least 5 cycles of dragons already confirmed.
Ojutai spoiled and Sarkhan is Temur
Sarkhn:
2UGR
4 starting loyalty
+1: draw a card and add one mana of any color
-2: put a 4/4 dragon on the field
-8: search your library for any number of dragons and put them on the field
Play all the dargons
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 06, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
At least 5 cycles of dragons already confirmed.
Ojutai spoiled and Sarkhan is Temur
Sarkhn:
2UGR
4 starting loyalty
+1: draw a card and add one mana of any color
-2: put a 4/4 dragon on the field
-8: search your library for any number of dragons and put them on the field
Dragon tribal HERE WE GO! When the full set is spoiled I will be working on a list. I'm super stoked. {Dragon Tempest} will make his ult near guaranteed win. We just need some low CMC dragons for the first few turns...and that +1! If it was just draw a card it'd be solid, but we get mana too? What's his starting loyalty?
Buy up all the {crucibles of fire} :D
Quote from: E.kann1 on March 06, 2015, 03:33:00 PM
Buy up all the {crucibles of fire} :D
Right now while it's still $2. Seriously guys if I had money I'd be cleaning it out...
Screw this set: mm2 has goyf
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 06, 2015, 03:11:53 PM
At least 5 cycles of dragons already confirmed.
Ojutai spoiled and Sarkhan is Temur
Sarkhn:
2UGR
4 starting loyalty
+1: draw a card and add one mana of any color
-2: put a 4/4 dragon on the field
-8: search your library for any number of dragons and put them on the field
Dragon tribal HERE WE GO! When the full set is spoiled I will be working on a list. I'm super stoked. {Dragon Tempest} will make his ult near guaranteed win. We just need some low CMC dragons for the first few turns...and that +1! If it was just draw a card it'd be solid, but we get mana too? What's his starting loyalty?
Got my base ready when I pulled the double strike dragon from FRF. I'll hold on to this base until after pulling some more. And this Sarkhan! I'll splash blue even though I'm more of an aggro player.
I was hoping rug Sarkhan would be playable outside of dragons... Animar wanted a new plaything
That +1 tho!
Sarkarytid
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 06, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
Sarkarytid
If {Sylvan Caryatid} had "draw a card" tacked onto it.
He seems pretty badass. Looking forward to running him when I get around to playing U/W control.
Quote from: bravado883 on March 07, 2015, 11:03:41 AM
Ummmm...{Collected Company}...this card seems like whoa.
Collected Company 3{G}
INSTANT (ridiculous)
Look at the top six cards of your library. Put up to two creature cards with converted mana cost 3 or less from among them onto the battlefield. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in any order.
WTF?
I feel like people felt the same way about {see the unwritten}. And what cmc 3 or less do you care about much? No siege rhinos or hornet queens.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 07, 2015, 11:40:06 AM
Very good in a junk edh
E-witness, fleshbag maurader, mama runes, serra ascendant, wood Elves, farhaven elf, etc etc.
There are targets that exist
Edh for sure seems great. I just meant std.
Are there gonna be new spoilers at GP Miami?
No dragons below 5MC yet. Humph.
{Enduring Scalelord} will see some EDH counters play with {Chorus of the Conclave} style decks for sure.
{Ruthless Deathfang} feels {W}{B} to me, not {U}{B}. Double humph.
There is the red 4 cmc dragon.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't having two {Enduring Scalelord}'s out make an infinite amount of +1/+1's on each of them?
👆. Yup
There are a few rumblings around the web that {Collected Company}+{Congregation at Dawn}+{Chord of Calling} could lead to a pseudo pod deck in Modern. The hype is real, I may try to preorder some foils.
Quote from: Deebiia on March 07, 2015, 01:18:07 PM
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't having two {Enduring Scalelord}'s out make an infinite amount of +1/+1's on each of them?
How did they let that happen...it has a may clause so you can cap them out and swing fatal.
{Battlefield Thurmaturge} + {Descent of Dragons}, {R}{R} turn your tokens into 4/4s. I just wish it was a little more on curve so it could happen before T4.
{Dragonlord's Servant} is going to be a thing. EDH and all the high costs for dragons so far...
I'm going Temur dragon tribal.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 07, 2015, 01:45:49 PM
There are a few rumblings around the web that {Collected Company}+{Congregation at Dawn}+{Chord of Calling} could lead to a pseudo pod deck in Modern. The hype is real, I may try to preorder some foils.
I'm picking up some foils and non-foils...if it were sorcery speed I wouldn't be quite as hyped about it..
There are two cards I would like to mention that are going to put Mardu Aggro with Alesha over the top.
Anefenza the Family tree or something {W}{W}
Whenever another nontoken Creature entires the battlefield under your control, bolster 1.
2/2
Arashin Foremost {W}{W}{1}
Double strike
Whenever Arashin Formost Enters the battlefield or attacks, target creature gains double strike
2/1
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 07, 2015, 04:02:05 PM
There's like a billion legendaries in this Block. I love it.
Trip to kamigawa confirmed?
Quote from: Munchlax on March 07, 2015, 03:40:05 PM
There are two cards I would like to mention that are going to put Mardu Aggro with Alesha over the top.
Anefenza the Family tree or something {W}{W}
Whenever another nontoken Creature entires the battlefield under your control, bolster 1.
2/2
Arashin Foremost {W}{W}{1}
Double strike
Whenever Arashin Formost Enters the battlefield or attacks, target creature gains double strike
2/1
Arashin foremost can only give double strike to warriors.
I'VE BEEN READING NARSET WRONG! NONCREATURE SPELLS‽ I'm making room in my Bant Superfriends right now.
Quote from: particle on March 07, 2015, 04:22:03 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on March 07, 2015, 03:40:05 PM
There are two cards I would like to mention that are going to put Mardu Aggro with Alesha over the top.
Anefenza the Family tree or something {W}{W}
Whenever another nontoken Creature entires the battlefield under your control, bolster 1.
2/2
Arashin Foremost {W}{W}{1}
Double strike
Whenever Arashin Formost Enters the battlefield or attacks, target creature gains double strike
2/1
Arashin foremost can only give double strike to warriors.
Much worse than I thought. Still playable though
Quote from: Munchlax on March 07, 2015, 03:40:05 PM
Arashin Foremost {W}{W}{1}
Double strike
Whenever Arashin Formost Enters the battlefield or attacks, target creature gains double strike
2/1
All the white double strikes do well.
What do you all think of the new draw four spell? {Dragonlord's Perogative}
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 07, 2015, 07:33:48 PM
What do you all think of the new draw four spell? {Dragonlord's Perogative}
It's fine but it's additional cost seems purely flavorful. Outside of edh what deck that runs this is gonna have dragons to reliably reveal.
Quote from: particle on March 07, 2015, 07:48:21 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 07, 2015, 07:33:48 PM
What do you all think of the new draw four spell? {Dragonlord's Perogative}
It's fine but it's additional cost seems purely flavorful. Outside of edh what deck that runs this is gonna have dragons to reliably reveal.
In standard both Silumgars are control playable, so its very conditional, but will happen.
{Crater Elemental} spoiled on the GP Miami Stream:
(http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/cards/craterelemental.jpg)
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 08, 2015, 08:36:02 PM
{Crater Elemental} spoiled on the GP Miami Stream:
(http://mythicspoiler.com/dtk/cards/craterelemental.jpg)
I like it. It's not going to see constructed play. But I like it.
(http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/137/470/635614472427623752.png)
^meh
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 08, 2015, 11:39:10 PM
(http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/137/470/635614472427623752.png)
Dammit wizards.
OMG {Descent of Dragons} plus {Battlefield Thaumaturge}! You can turn 4 or more of your creatures into 4/4 Dragons for just RR. Seems really strong with cards like {Dragon Fodder} and {Hordeling Outburst}.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 08, 2015, 11:56:15 PM
OMG {Descent of Dragons} plus {Battlefield Thaumaturge}! You can turn 4 or more of your creatures into 4/4 Dragons for just RR. Seems really strong with cards like {Dragon Fodder} and {Hordeling Outburst}.
I said that last page... {Facepalm}
Quote from: Noblellama on March 09, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 08, 2015, 11:39:10 PM
(http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/137/470/635614472427623752.png)
Instant speed discard anyone?
If only it were mono black I would love that in my {Waste Not} deck ; _;
Quote from: Deebiia on March 09, 2015, 01:27:15 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on March 09, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 08, 2015, 11:39:10 PM
(http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/137/470/635614472427623752.png)
Instant speed discard anyone?
If only it were mono black I would love that in my {Waste Not} deck ; _;
If it only said "each other player", Nekusar would be very happy with it
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 09, 2015, 06:27:52 AM
Quote from: Deebiia on March 09, 2015, 01:27:15 AM
Quote from: Noblellama on March 09, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 08, 2015, 11:39:10 PM
(http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/137/470/635614472427623752.png)
Instant speed discard anyone?
If only it were mono black I would love that in my {Waste Not} deck ; _;
If it only said "each other player", Nekusar would be very happy with it
I just think for 3 mana it should be {lightning bolt} not {shock} considering other than {thoughseize} (and lands) mode, this card is pretty worthless. Is it just me or has each command been worse then previous one?
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 09, 2015, 09:04:31 AM
Pro-tip, wizard spoils the best cards first... don't get your hopes up anymore
It's all downhill after {Sarkan the Broken}
New searing blood...
Lands would be nice
Dissipate lol
I mean we got ojutai and silumgar commands
Cool uncommon cycle got spoiled and an interesting dragon type counterspell
Quote from: bravado883 on March 09, 2015, 10:59:05 AM
Curious to see what counterspell we get. I won't complain if it's bad b/c WotC gave me tons of awesome, but PLEASE PLEASE no more {Cancel}.
Do you like {U}{U} cancel a spell of you own or reveal a dragon?
We haven't gotten Surrak yet.
We have gotten everyone else but not Surrak
Hope he's sweet
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 09, 2015, 12:06:27 PM
Quote from: Cender on March 09, 2015, 11:55:00 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on March 09, 2015, 10:59:05 AM
Curious to see what counterspell we get. I won't complain if it's bad b/c WotC gave me tons of awesome, but PLEASE PLEASE no more {Cancel}.
Do you like {U}{U} cancel a spell of you own or reveal a dragon?
it would be
{U}{U}
As an additional cost reveal a dragon card from your hand
Counter target spell unless it's owner pays {3}
If it's additional cost was paid, counter that spell instead.
Nope, the modes are {Force Spike} if no dragons, {Counterspell} if you own or reveal a dragon.
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Quote from: bravado883 on March 09, 2015, 10:59:05 AM
Curious to see what counterspell we get. I won't complain if it's bad b/c WotC gave me tons of awesome, but PLEASE PLEASE no more {Cancel}.
Do you like {U}{U} cancel a spell of you own or reveal a dragon?
it would be
{U}{U}
As an additional cost reveal a dragon card from your hand
Counter target spell unless it's owner pays {3}
If it's additional cost was paid, counter that spell instead.
Nope, the modes are {Force Spike} if no dragons, {Counterspell} if you own or reveal a dragon.
how do you know? Why wouldn't it be 3? It's speculation....
My apologies for not clarifying. I was referring to the newly spoiled card, {Silumgar's Scorn} and not speculating.
Maybe if blue has some decent dragons other than two legendaries
Link I helped your post ;)
Considering it was completely redundant
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 09, 2015, 01:38:04 PM
Link I helped your post ;)
Considering it was completely redundant
There's also the option of going U/W control. Some of the white dragons look good and all the U/W ones do.
You're trying too hard
Are you really gonna run sun ray dragon in constructed and bring that to an actual GP?
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 09, 2015, 01:45:14 PM
You're trying too hard
Are you really gonna run sun ray dragon in constructed and bring that to an actual GP?
Touché. We need a blue inclusive flash equivalent of {Dragon Hatchling}. Preferably one with power. Or a dragon version of {Guard Gomoza}/{Fog Bank}.
Hedonist's Trove
5BB
Enchantment
When Hedonist's Trove enteres the battlefield, exile all cards in target's opponents graveyard.
You may play land cards exiled by Hedonist's Trove.
One per turn, you may cast a nonland card exiled by Hedonist's Trove.
Ew
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 09, 2015, 02:15:46 PM
Hedonist's Trove
5BB
Enchantment
When Hedonist's Trove enteres the battlefield, exile all cards in target's opponents graveyard.
You may play land cards exiled by Hedonist's Trove.
One per turn, you may cast a nonland card exiled by Hedonist's Trove.
Ew
Such jank!! I like that you can cast a spell on your opponents turns as well.
Quote from: particle on March 09, 2015, 02:46:34 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 09, 2015, 02:15:46 PM
Hedonist's Trove
5BB
Enchantment
When Hedonist's Trove enteres the battlefield, exile all cards in target's opponents graveyard.
You may play land cards exiled by Hedonist's Trove.
One per turn, you may cast a nonland card exiled by Hedonist's Trove.
Ew
Such jank!! I like that you can cast a spell on your opponents turns as well.
Damn. Too bad 7 mana is a little unplayable...
That thing is EDH gold
Could happen in standard
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 09, 2015, 03:17:19 PM
That thing is EDH gold
Could happen in standard
EDH ... Hellz Ya!
Standard .... Hell the Eff No lol
By then they've delved it all away
I just realized with this printing of Sarkhan, he has represented all but one color...
Work well with {Scion of the Ur-Dragon}
Quote from: Noblellama on March 10, 2015, 05:03:25 AM
Funny heated debate about the card being fake
Thx to Kaylesh for showing this page, they got a little bit of everything...
https://m.facebook.com/ThePlaneswalkerPantheon/photos/a.138741062998903.1073741838.138614316344911/344080845798256/?type=1&source=46&ref=bookmark
Nice debate indeed :)
Avatar of the resolute seems kind of silly, esp with both anafenza
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 10, 2015, 11:08:50 AM
Avatar of the resolute seems kind of silly, esp with anafenza
Seems like {Garruk's Companion} got a super-buff
Forget yoked ox, think about {nyx-fleece ram} cards already good
{Warbringer} dash costs {2} less? I can see a janky deck with the dragon that's gives things +2/+0 whenever something enters that just continually dashes. Would be super fun.
Okay guys, inspired by a rules question.
{Dragon Tempest} + {Descent of Dragons} + {Battlefield Thurmaturge} = damage equal to the number of creatures you control squared. For {R}{R}. Like damn! I can't decide if I want to go Temur with this and add Sarkhan as an alt Wincon or just go Izzet/Jeskai and play tokens. Temur sounds more fun.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 10, 2015, 11:46:52 AM
Okay guys, inspired by a rules question.
{Dragon Tempest} + {Descent of Dragons} + {Battlefield Thurmaturge} = damage equal to the number of creatures you control squared. For {R}{R}. Like damn! I can't decide if I want to go Temur with this and add Sarkhan as an alt Wincon or just go Izzet/Jeskai and play tokens. Temur sounds more fun.
Had too look that one up, but you are totally right. X dragons enter the field dealing X damage, where X is the number of creatures you sacced. For {R}{R}! I feel like Wizards has had set loose some major power in this block. First the double dragon infinite, now this...
Has it ever been so huge?
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 10, 2015, 12:03:49 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 10, 2015, 11:46:52 AM
Okay guys, inspired by a rules question.
{Dragon Tempest} + {Descent of Dragons} + {Battlefield Thurmaturge} = damage equal to the number of creatures you control squared. For {R}{R}. Like damn! I can't decide if I want to go Temur with this and add Sarkhan as an alt Wincon or just go Izzet/Jeskai and play tokens. Temur sounds more fun.
Had too look that one up, but you are totally right. X dragons enter the field dealing X damage, where X is the number of creatures you sacced. For {R}{R}! I feel like Wizards has had set loose some major power in this block. First the double dragon infinite, now this...
Has it ever been so huge?
On top of that, you still have 4/4 flying dragons to beat down with after the damage explosion. Like wow if that goes off it'll be dangerous. The downside is that there's no realistic way to take advantage of the damage output quickly. I mean,
T1 Island/mountain and your pick of one drop creature.
T2 whichever land you didn't play last turn. {Battlefield Thurmaturge}/{Dragon Tempest}
T3 mountain, whichever one you didn't play last turn. Another one drop creature.
T4 any land {Dragon Fodder}, {Descent of Dragons}.
Damage output of 25 with 5 4/4 dragons. But that's a /perfect/ and /uninterrupted/ hand. I see it being a turn 6 deck. The problem is all the spells you need to cast are two drops and all the token generators are {Dragon Fodder} and {Hordeling Outburst}. I really think {Ornithopter} will shine in this deck. I'm going to make a post in Combo Corner so we can discuss there and not clog up this thread.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 10, 2015, 11:20:24 AM
That's ridiculous...
And also, the new 2 drop enchant that allows butt-scooting and walls to attack. {yoked ox} foils are gonna skyrocket. I'm buying 10
Why the hell would you run {Yoked Ox} when there's {Lagonna-Band Trailblazer}? C'mon now.
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That's ridiculous...
And also, the new 2 drop enchant that allows butt-scooting and walls to attack. {yoked ox} foils are gonna skyrocket. I'm buying 10
Play both?
Why the hell would you run {Yoked Ox} when there's {Lagonna-Band Trailblazer}? C'mon now.
New {fabricate} for dragons tho
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 10, 2015, 04:18:07 PM
Oh mah gawd... instant speed as well. Mono red dragon edh is gonna be a thing. :'(
Get your {Ziralan of the claw} now
The mothership has just release an article about the tokens of DTK.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/tokens-dragons-tarkir-2015-03-10
I want that Zombie token for my Nekusar EDH!!!
What a cute goblin lol
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 10, 2015, 06:55:17 PM
What a cute goblin lol
You could alter him and make him into "Evil Santa"
Have we seen the card that makes the X/X Zombie Horror yet?
Quote from: The1337Magician on March 10, 2015, 08:57:17 PM
Have we seen the card that makes the X/X Zombie Horror yet?
I don't think so, should be interesting.
New spoilers are out.
Crap mana artifacts and an over priced artifact creature.
Quote from: Sto5rm on March 11, 2015, 11:04:46 AM
New spoilers are out.
Crap mana artifacts and an over priced artifact creature.
Disappointed. However we will soon have {Duress}, {Despise} and {Thoughtsieze} in standard.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 11:21:18 AM
Quote from: Sto5rm on March 11, 2015, 11:04:46 AM
New spoilers are out.
Crap mana artifacts and an over priced artifact creature.
Disappointed. However we will soon have {Duress}, {Despise} and {Thoughtsieze} in standard.
And {waste not}. Mono black hand disruption with some big fatty as the wincon?
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Quote from: Sto5rm on March 11, 2015, 11:04:46 AM
New spoilers are out.
Crap mana artifacts and an over priced artifact creature.
Disappointed. However we will soon have {Duress}, {Despise} and {Thoughtsieze} in standard.
And {waste not}. Mono black hand disruption with some big fatty as the wincon?
The BR dragon lord could be used as a finisher... Time to brew!!!
You could add in that exile graveyard cast thing
I think the Elder Dragon with the 10 damage clause is more relevant. By hey, run both.
Lol t1 Taylor swift
T2 taylor swift 2, thoughtseize (proc swiftys)
T3 waste not, duress. (Proc swiftys)
T4 profit
T1 {Thoughtsieze}/{Duress}/{Despise}
T2 {Waste Not}
T3 {Dark Deal} + later steps if enough mana is produced.
T4 {Master of the Feast} + {Thoughtsieze}/{Duress}/{Despise}
T5 {Liliana Vess}
Looks pretty good. Maybe splash blue for {Dakra Mystic}, {Siren of the Silent Song} and {Treasure Cruise}/{Dig Through Time}.
Yeah they already up to $5...
Disappointed, thought something with the name Scion of Ugin would be more badass than a 4/4 flyer for {6}
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 11, 2015, 01:25:08 PM
But it's colorless!!! So sweet. It's gonna be bananas, I know it. Any "protection" from whatever doesn't apply. Thiz is a great segue into eldrazi colorless without annihilator.
It's still a 4/4 frame that will crumple into a tin can as soon as it gets in combat with one. Also it's an old formula. There are a lot of {6} for 4/4 flying in artifact. {Gold Forged Sentinel} off the top of my head.
Disappointing. Was hoping for something for {Ensoul Artifact}.
The new surrak makes me sad
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Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 11, 2015, 01:25:08 PM
But it's colorless!!! So sweet. It's gonna be bananas, I know it. Any "protection" from whatever doesn't apply. Thiz is a great segue into eldrazi colorless without annihilator.
It's still a 4/4 frame that will crumple into a tin can as soon as it gets in combat with one. Also it's an old formula. There are a lot of {6} for 4/4 flying in artifact. {Gold Forged Sentinel} off the top of my head.
Disappointing. Was hoping for something for {Ensoul Artifact}.
No put that sentinel in a party full of uncommon dragons. I'm betting this is a D+, C- by LR standards. Makes your deck when things have gone awry.
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 11, 2015, 01:49:41 PM
The new surrak makes me sad
Wow. New Surrak is... Unimpressive.
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The new surrak makes me sad
Agreed. Why run him when you've got {Polukranos, World Eater} at the same cost with one extra toughness and a much better ability? That's practically a straight comparison as they're both legendary. Disappointed.
Wow they sure put a lot of thought into those monument cards. All of them turn into 4/4 flying ..... wait for it .... wait for it .... dragons. ....big surprise there. I mean seriously how about give them so flavor associated with their colors like the keyrunes did????
And I am not typically negative about new cards.
Quote from: cltrn81 on March 11, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
Wow they sure put a lot of thought into those monument cards. All of them turn into 4/4 flying ..... wait for it .... wait for it .... dragons. ....big surprise there. I mean seriously how about give them so flavor associated with their colors like the keyrunes did????
And I am not typically negative about new cards.
Agreed. Very pathetic.
Still waiting for {vial of dragonfire} to be spoiled. Via
{Renowned Weaponsmith}
I think in rotation with zendikar he will be good assuming eldrazi most likely are back
But I agree
T3 poly, no need for him in that slot.
I'm wondering if {Tapestry of Ages} is good enough for control...
I would say it makes sense that in this alternative dragon led fate, that the khans are scrub versions of themselves: see {zurgo bellstriker}. New anafenza seems fine but otherwise all bad. And my autocorrect just tried to change anafenza to snakebird which is hopefully a spoiler from Apple.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 11, 2015, 03:21:43 PM
I'm wondering if {Tapestry of Ages} is good enough for control...
Definitely worth a Playtest but as a 1 of maximum don't want to be stick with these in hand :D
Guys, double check the art of {Scion of Ugin}. Anything else like that? Weird.
Also, {Tapestry of the Ages} seems like a bad card. {4} initial investment for {2} add draw a card to a non-creature spell? How often can you afford that? And it has to tap. Not very impressive. If it was {1} maybe. If it was just tap hell yes.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 11, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Ugin scion is colorless and not an artifact!!!!! are we missing this???
Which makes it worse! And the art goes past the borders. So weird.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 11, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Ugin scion is colorless and not an artifact!!!!! are we missing this???
Which makes it worse! And the art goes past the borders. So weird.
Maybe the card isn't finished yet
Quote from: Rass on March 11, 2015, 07:58:50 PM
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Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 11, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Ugin scion is colorless and not an artifact!!!!! are we missing this???
Which makes it worse! And the art goes past the borders. So weird.
Maybe the card isn't finished yet
Maybe it goes past the borders because it's the spiritual manifestation of a Planeswalker? Similar to how Nicol Bolas had a spirit form? Could kinda explain why the art goes past the borders...
Also, nonartifact colorless cards kinda do that...
See:
{Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}
We will have to see a colorless wiper between now and zendikar if eldrazi are back
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 11, 2015, 10:17:25 PM
Calling it now. A 2/2 colorless for 3. It's gonna happen
With morph
So slightly in relation to this, has anyone heard about th next set???? Cause if not, the next set is going to be set in Zendikar
Quote from: Kyrosis on March 12, 2015, 01:10:54 AM
So slightly in relation to this, has anyone heard about th next set???? Cause if not, the next set is going to be set in Zendikar
If you look below this topic. There is a subject called battle for zendikar. I'm pretty sure people know.
Also. Scion of Ugin is the only colorless card in set. It's #1.. #2 is anafenza
Didnt see it, sorry. Bt at the same time as you watch the spoilers come out, 5 color dragons in standard is looking pretty awesome
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 11, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
Still waiting for {vial of dragonfire} to be spoiled. Via
{Renowned Weaponsmith}
Spoiled. Aaaaaaand I'm disappointed... Sac for 2 damage.
Edit: I was hoping for X damage based on dragon count...
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 08:05:18 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 11, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
Still waiting for {vial of dragonfire} to be spoiled. Via
{Renowned Weaponsmith}
Spoiled. Aaaaaaand I'm disappointed... Sac for 2 damage.
Edit: I was hoping for X damage based on dragon count...
I mean it was a shitty uncommon what did we really expect right?
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 12, 2015, 08:31:46 AM
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Quote from: Avnger345 on March 11, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
Still waiting for {vial of dragonfire} to be spoiled. Via
{Renowned Weaponsmith}
Spoiled. Aaaaaaand I'm disappointed... Sac for 2 damage.
Edit: I was hoping for X damage based on dragon count...
I mean it was a shitty uncommon what did we really expect right?
True, i guess i was looking for something that maybe used a mechanic for a boost. Wold slash is better and cheaper. Even the reveal/control a dragon for something extra like 4 damage would have made it better than sac for only two damage.
Edit: Now I think I'm going to build a fun deck using the weaponsmith and ensoul artifact just to validate my disappointment.
This set feels a little phoned in. I mean with the *keystone dragons* being the exact same thing, just with different mana symbols, those megamorph Dragons that have the same ability [counter on other dragons], megamorph in general felt just lazy. It just feels like they could have done more, I mean this is a set of .loving. dragons. They even brought back elder dragons, and its just so underwhelming. Even cards they built up like Vial are just poorly done.
On a more happy note, are we going to get Vial Smasher? Maybe that's what turns the key for that card.
Quote from: Mattao19 on March 12, 2015, 08:31:46 AM
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 08:05:18 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 11, 2015, 02:30:19 PM
Still waiting for {vial of dragonfire} to be spoiled. Via
{Renowned Weaponsmith}
Spoiled. Aaaaaaand I'm disappointed... Sac for 2 damage.
Edit: I was hoping for X damage based on dragon count...
I mean it was a shitty uncommon what did we really expect right?
Yeah. Remember how 'great' {Heart-piercer bow} was
{myth realized} spoiled. Seems weird but could be good. {W} enchantment.
Whenever you cast a non creature spell put a lore counter on it.
2{W}: put a lore counter on it.
{W}: becomes a creature w p/t = to lore counters. Could be a reasonable finisher since it survives wraiths but there's lots of enchantment hate.
Quote from: particle on March 12, 2015, 10:04:00 AM
{myth realized} spoiled. Seems weird but could be good. {W} enchantment.
Whenever you cast a non creature spell put a lore counter on it.
2{W}: put a lore counter on it.
{W}: becomes a creature w p/t = to lore counters. Could be a reasonable finisher since it survives wraiths but there's lots of enchantment hate.
I know that I definitely want to play around with it. It has my name all over it.
{Clone Legion} for EDH staple.
{Wandering Tombshell}, what became of {Meandering Townshell}?
Quote from: bravado883 on March 12, 2015, 11:24:56 AM
{Myth Realized} seems super sweet. Could be a solid control card at some point.
It's not necessarily a fair comparison, but it has some similarities to {Celestial Colonnade} role in Modern Jeskai Control.
Dies to {Abrupt decay} puts it out of that running however.
Quote from: Cender on March 12, 2015, 11:36:36 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on March 12, 2015, 11:24:56 AM
{Myth Realized} seems super sweet. Could be a solid control card at some point.
It's not necessarily a fair comparison, but it has some similarities to {Celestial Colonnade} role in Modern Jeskai Control.
Dies to {Abrupt decay} puts it out of that running however.
Yep, I just wish it were indestructible while a creature, because then it could see some serious play
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 12, 2015, 11:39:49 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 12, 2015, 11:39:17 AM
Quote from: Cender on March 12, 2015, 11:36:36 AM
Quote from: bravado883 on March 12, 2015, 11:24:56 AM
{Myth Realized} seems super sweet. Could be a solid control card at some point.
It's not necessarily a fair comparison, but it has some similarities to {Celestial Colonnade} role in Modern Jeskai Control.
Dies to {Abrupt decay} puts it out of that running however.
Yep, I just wish it were indestructible while a creature, because then it could see some serious play
asking a bit much of a one drop aren't we ;-)
Then make it a two drop. The card would be seriously good if it had evasion/didn't die to creature removal/lifelink/etc, but as it is it is a big time and mana investment for a meh reward. Lets be realistic, this isn't a real one drop.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 12, 2015, 11:36:47 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 12, 2015, 11:08:56 AM
{Clone Legion} for edh staple
absolutely not. It's 9 mana in blue. It -MAY- see some fringe play in green/blue decks but I'm pulling the Knowledge Card here, it'll be in amateur edh decks as a potentially cool card but more realistically a card that will sit in your hand an entire match... far from an edh staple. If it costed 6 or 7 then yeah, but not for 9. 9 mana is an {omniscience} not a conditional card that may not even be explosive. That being said, it's a pretty sweet card that I'll end up forcing into my kruphix edh. Glad it's gonna be a 50 cent rare
It seems extremely powerful vs a lot of decks. Maybe I just play against too many Sliver and {Krenko, Mob Boss} decks. Hitting 9 mana hasn't been a problem for my non-infinite {Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind} deck or my {Muzzio, Grand Artificer}. Then again I hardly play "competitive" commander decks. I will take your word for it.
Speaking from a casual players perspective, {Myth Realized} has made me want to make a deck focused around {Soulfire Grand Master} with cards like {Gitixian Probe} and low casting instants with some {guttersnipe}s in as well. Can drop Myth first turn, maybe have two phrexian mana cards in my hand and play them out, next turn have a mountain out for a shock or something, and use the white mana to make a 3/3 2nd turn and swing. It can die easily, but if you stack enough instants you can pump him up pretty fast.
Alternatively, G/W would be cool to use with him. Throw in some {Rancor}--trample cards is what I mean-- and pump cards, like {Invigorate} and you have the makings of a simple, yet versatile attacker/card.
I like the card :p can be used many ways if you think about it.
Thinking about it now the fact that it only costs one to make it a creature could make it dodge the enchantment hate relatively easily. Unlikely they'll have instant speed enchantment removal and instant speed creature removal up. This could be really sweet.
Ok my faith is temporarily restored - need more {Dromoka's Command}. Love the options for only {G}{W}...
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
Ok my faith is temporarily restored - need more {Dromoka's Command}. Love the options for only {G}{W}...
You kidding me? I think it's extemely underwhelming.
Instant speed two mana for a +1/+1 and fight? Fog for the infinite mana crater's claw decks? Enchantment removal? Well I like it at least...
Bolster creature, fight wall, swing for damage
It's good IMO, all the charms are decent
And it fits so nicely into my {Phalanx Leader} deck... Two heroic triggers :)
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
And it fits so nicely into my {Phalanx Leader} deck... Two heroic triggers :)
Only one trigger. You only cast the spell once.
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
And it fits so nicely into my {Phalanx Leader} deck... Two heroic triggers :)
This might be the only thing I like about it,
I also think it's underwhelming.
I get it, for two mana its two okay effects, thing is most cards with fight and cost two mana already do these things. Not in the rare slot.
For two mana I'd rather just {doom blade} something
Quote from: Cender on March 12, 2015, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
And it fits so nicely into my {Phalanx Leader} deck... Two heroic triggers :)
Only one trigger. You only cast the spell once.
Dargonnit... Well two options for heroic triggers :)
Quote from: Cender on March 12, 2015, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
And it fits so nicely into my {Phalanx Leader} deck... Two heroic triggers :)
Only one trigger. You only cast the spell once.
Can it not choose two different creatures?
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 12, 2015, 01:22:24 PM
Quote from: Cender on March 12, 2015, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: Nfidel2k on March 12, 2015, 12:58:43 PM
And it fits so nicely into my {Phalanx Leader} deck... Two heroic triggers :)
Only one trigger. You only cast the spell once.
Can it not choose two different creatures?
Sure, but you can't double trigger the same creature, that's how I read his post, at least. Sorry for the lack of clarification.
I had to re read the card myself and yeah you can't double up but yeah I getcha
I think you're missing the fact that Tasigur is from FRF meaning back when they went to change everything. This means that he was a khan, nothing ever changed that and Silumgar decided to make a necklace out of him for it.
Same with Anafenza. She was probably killed for being a khan and has been a ghost for a while.
Zurgo and co (from Khans) never became khans because that was before there time. That era ended before theirs began.
Make sense?
Poor Sidisi is sad you forgot her, and will exploit your forgetfulness.
Predictions on sleeper cards?
I predict tbere will be another cycle of 2 color creatures non dragon
I predict 100 posts!!!
It says full spoiler updating
{Pacifism} reprint. Me likey.
So mana good cards... {2}{B} for creature tokens get -2/-2? Hate card inbound! I'm very not happy that the Reincarnation card is opponents only. Grr.
Quote from: Cender on March 13, 2015, 11:18:06 AM
{Pacifism} reprint. Me likey.
Yes. New flavor text is awesome as well!
Really like the new {Battle Mastery} art. Badass.
There's a 2/3 for 3 in white that gets +2/+2 for each enchantment on it. Looks good.
I really like the commons and uncommons in this set, it seems they are cutting some of the chaff because of how rotations are going to start working. Really glad to see {Explosive Vegetation} reprint too.
What do we think looks good for prerelease? I think I'll probably play GW or UW.
Doubt I'll go but I'd run G/R or U/B.
Quote from: E.kann1 on March 13, 2015, 03:33:29 PM
What do we think looks good for prerelease? I think I'll probably play GW or UW.
Thinking GW or GR. Like some of the cards there.
I'm going u/b and u/w for prerelease. I want to do g/w also. But don't like the gold dice and really wanted ice blue dice.
When does this hit the database? I want to work on my {Descent of the Dragons} and dragon tribal deck.
Usually dbase is updated between prerelease and release in my experience.
I suggest use substitute cards for the deck construction that match cost, color and type and put the subs in the notes. Won't help with sharing the deck but at least lets you work on the structure. And when the dbase updates, you only have to switch out a few cards.
Blessed reincarnation
3u
Exile a dude, they {polymorph}. Rebound. Instant speed.
Seems good.
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Silumgar's sorcerer
1uu
Wizard
Flash flying exploit
If you exploit counter a spell.
2/1
I like it!
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{tormenting voice} reprint.
Ever seen a dragon plug his ears? Neither have I.
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Reprint of {explosive vegetation}! Hallelujah'
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on March 14, 2015, 10:57:07 AM
Blessed reincarnation
3u
Exile a dude, they {polymorph}. Rebound. Instant speed.
Seems good.
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Silumgar's sorcerer
1uu
Wizard
Flash flying exploit
If you exploit counter a spell.
2/1
I like it!
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{tormenting voice} reprint.
Ever seen a dragon plug his ears? Neither have I.
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Reprint of {explosive vegetation}! Hallelujah'
Check out the time of his last edit!! Lol also ya explosive veggies reprint is great bc they're so hard to find!!
Having reviewed everything, I actually am not highly excited for this. I liked Khans much more, and would rather spend money on MM2. Probably just gonna trade for the few cards i want and pick up a prerelease for the dice and stop.
Totally skipped my russian preorder of Dtk and went with a mm3 preorder
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 14, 2015, 08:37:36 PM
Totally skipped my russian preorder of Dtk and went with a mm3 preorder
Mm3? Damn muggy is on the new hype. Not preordering mm2, straight to 3?
Mm3 has duals
Confirmed
Even better
Clay
Wiz concept: cards made with clay can only be played so many times before they turn to dust. So original duals still worth more due to being "eternal", clay copies will give about 3000-4000 shuffles before ceasing to exist.
This is how they will get around the reserve list, extremely fragile cards
Now that I've looked at it, BR has an insane amount of removal. Trying to decide between that, UW (which is good in FRF) and GW which I just like. Hmm...
Also, I would definitely buy clay original duals... :P