Dragons of Tarkir (Baseless Speculation and Spoilers)

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, November 01, 2014, 09:00:40 PM

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LinkCelestrial

I'd be super stoked to crack one but unless that happens or her price drops I won't be getting one.

Having 6 to start at 4 mana is sweet. However I just don't think her first two abilities are good enough. If it was look at the top three and reveal non-land non-creature, put rest on bottom she'd be so much better. I expect her -2 to be used on {Treasure Cruise} and {Dig Through Time} most often. Could be sick on {Temporal Trespass}.

If her -2 could be used to keep rebounding the same spell...too bad it says from hand.

cltrn81

Narset PW has a big Ole booty at 6 loyalty!   Had to say that 😜

Ekann1

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 01:44:07 PM
Could be sick on {Temporal Trespass}.
Are you sure this works? It exiles as part of resolution, so I'm not sure if it exiles itself or rebounds itself.

Nfidel2k

I'd love to setup a Narset/Soulfire combo if it works. Use Narset to rebound the spell,  then Soulfire the rebound back to hand and do it all over again...

Edit: grumble Soulfire stupid has to be from hand wording...

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: E.kann1 on March 04, 2015, 03:51:35 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 04, 2015, 01:44:07 PM
Could be sick on {Temporal Trespass}.
Are you sure this works? It exiles as part of resolution, so I'm not sure if it exiles itself or rebounds itself.

I actually thought that as I reread my post. Looked it up and it doesn't work. :c

Avnger345

Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.   
Means no fetches!

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.   
Means no fetches!

This block with all 10 fetches would have been ridiculous

cltrn81

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 04, 2015, 05:11:50 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.   
Means no fetches!

This block with all 10 fetches would have been ridiculous
#voiceofreason

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.   
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious

cltrn81

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.   
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
it makes sense for more reasons than this.  To extend this argument.......let me ask this question. .....why bother with this fetch land that gets any basic when you already have 10 that fetches in the block?

Someone will correct me and say with the new changes to rotations....technically this set is paired with M16 as far as "block structure" but I think you guys understand my main point ;)

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.   
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
Assuming 15 Basics, there wouldn't be room for the fetches (number wise). This means the chance of fetches is very low, but not zero.

Edit: just to be realistic most large sets have 20 Basics, but Avacyn Restored only had 15 and Gatecrash didn't have any. Chances are crazy low now (we're talking 1-5% range), but it may still happen.

Spikepit

I think we're clutching at straws if we're still hoping for enemy fetches. I'll gladly cop it on the chin if it happens, but not having any enemy combos in the set and so far a wee smidgen of multicolour hate is my biggest indication to give up on {Marsh Flats} and {Misty Rainforest}. But at least it means we can start hoping for other things now we have the space. Like more 2-3 drop dragons outside {Dragon Hatchling}s.


LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Teysa karlov on March 04, 2015, 06:39:11 PM
The new planeswalker!  https://m.facebook.com/ThePlaneswalkerPantheon/photos/a.138741062998903.1073741838.138614316344911/342132459326428/?type=1&source=48

Reading those comments gave me cancer...broken? OP? {Venser the Sojurner}'a emblem. {Dack Fayden}'s emblem. And those have better alternate abilities. The only real kicker is the loyalty but {Jace, the Living Guildpact} was just one off and everybodu hated him. (I did too until I cracked two and used him). People flip out too much without realizing what it takes to get a PW from 6-9 loyalty vs decks that care. *sighs*

Still want one though...

Avnger345

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 04, 2015, 05:20:40 PM
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on March 04, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 04, 2015, 05:03:23 PM
Evolving wilds reprint at #248/264.   
Means no fetches!
Can you explain why? Not doubting just curious
Assuming 15 Basics, there wouldn't be room for the fetches (number wise). This means the chance of fetches is very low, but not zero.

Edit: just to be realistic most large sets have 20 Basics, but Avacyn Restored only had 15 and Gatecrash didn't have any. Chances are crazy low now (we're talking 1-5% range), but it may still happen.


Looks like only 15 basic.  Forest, island, mountain, plains, swamp.  All alphabetically after evolving wilds.  3 new arts each.
3x5=15

248+15= 263.  So that leaves 1 slot somewhere between.