Ferguson

[Rass]

the issue is about excessive force and discrimination against minorities by Law enforcement.

So true. But until a full investigation is done and we hear from all parties and witnesses we are just jumping to a conclusion.

[Rass]

the issue is about excessive force and discrimination against minorities by Law enforcement.

So true. But until a full investigation is done and we hear from all parties and witnesses we are just jumping to a conclusion.

Hence why i've been saying for now i'm on the cops side, but that is open to change.

You are doing the same thing.

[MuggyWuggy]

And lets be ducking realistic here people: there is far more outrage when a white person dies or a white girl is missing

Stop acting like Caucasians have been discarded and forgotten because we are pointing out some clear issues with those who are meant to protect and serve

Are you actually being serious here...? Because I haven't seen this much outrage over a police shooting in all my life. And I know there have been more innocent men then this one shot to death by police, and a portion of them were no doubt white.

I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. They killed a CRIMINAL! Innocent men and women are dying all over the world every day and we want to freak out and cause chaos over the death of some theif who wasn't contributing to society at all? Please...there are worse things going on. I'll leave this alone with that

HE STOLE $4 WORTH OF BLUNTS.

No life deserves to be ended for $4

[TheRecklessPlaneswalker]

And lets be ducking realistic here people: there is far more outrage when a white person dies or a white girl is missing

Stop acting like Caucasians have been discarded and forgotten because we are pointing out some clear issues with those who are meant to protect and serve

Are you actually being serious here...? Because I haven't seen this much outrage over a police shooting in all my life. And I know there have been more innocent men then this one shot to death by police, and a portion of them were no doubt white.

I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. They killed a CRIMINAL! Innocent men and women are dying all over the world every day and we want to freak out and cause chaos over the death of some theif who wasn't contributing to society at all? Please...there are worse things going on. I'll leave this alone with that

HE STOLE $4 WORTH OF BLUNTS.

No life deserves to be ended for $4

No one deserves to be robbed ethier.

[NovusOrbis]

Because Tumblr and Twitter are reliable sources.
The hate's getting hilarious here, and the hypocrisy is tantalizing. "You're wrong because I think I'm right and my sources say I'm right." You don't say?  If you're not willing to listen to both arguments you shouldn't pass judgement. If your decision is based entirely off of emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement. It's not the police force as a whole, it's that one officer. Just because one cop is bad doesn't mean they all are. While some people may be protesting peacefully, there are others that are taking advantage of the opportunity to loot, riot, etc. If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals. The tear gas and militarization of the police is a by ptoduct of the ciolence that ensued out of anger, without rationale. We could discuss the severity of the two crimes, but it's all opinion based; impossible to determine a truth. Brown and the officer are both currently innocent and will remain that way until 12 people decide fate. Life's not always fair, guys, everyone here needs to remember that. I understand why people were angry, I'd be extremely upset if something happened to my community. But I also understand that people can lie, make mistakes, and be human.
I'm done for now until more facts become apparent.

The post (if you had read it) wasn't about one person killing one person. It was about police using excessive force and teargasing a crowd of protestors that contains children. "if your decision is based entirely off emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement," yeah well the fact is, what the police are doing right now is immoral, unconstitutional and idiotic. As for "Twitter being a reliable source," the same information has been on EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET IN AMERICA, so yeah, I think its probably right. Here are some more sources though:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/ferguson-protests-police-response_n_5677741.html
"Mostly peaceful protesters in the St. Louis suburb, symbolically holding their hands in the air, were met with tear gas and smoke bombs fired so regularly that several reporters on scene noted it was hard to breathe."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/ferguson-police-teargas-rubber-bullets-michael-brown
"A heavily armed, militarised police force fired teargas and rubber bullets to force hundreds of protesters out of the centre of a small Missouri town on Wednesday, as a crackdown on demonstrations over the killing of an unarmed 18-year-old intensified."

Are some of the protesters to blame? Yes, there have been many who have been violent toward police. Should the police confront a protest against excessive force with excessive force? NO! That is idiotic, it only adds more fuel to the fire.

If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals.

Dude you're totally right! Civil disobedience is disgusting, just ask Ghandi, the Framers of our Constitution, Martin Luther King Jr., Susan B. Anthony....

Did you even read what I posted? Have you read civil disobedience? And have you seen pictures is MLKs protests vs. Pictures of Fergesun? Please reread what I wrote.

THIS ISN'T ONE PERSON DOING SOMETHING STUPID, THIS HAPPENS FAR TOO OFTEN AND THAT IS WHY YOUR POST ISN'T WORTH READING, IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG. These protests are about a society in which blacks are treated differently by those who are supposed to protect and defend the law.

http://www.nyclu.org/issues/racial-justice/stop-and-frisk-practices
The vast majority of people stopped under the "Stop and Frisk" law are black or latino.

Far too many black children have been killed for no reason (and in many cases the killers get away with it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/fatal-cases
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/15/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/\





So yeah, if this were an isolated event, you would be right, but guess what, the sad reality is that this is an epidemic. Blacks have been treated as unequal forever and you would think that in the twentieth century we would have grown up.

Now let the negs begin!

Edit: shouldn't be relevant, but sadly is: I am white. Just so everyone can put it in perspective.

I was talking about the difference between peaceful protests and riots. And how people are jumping to conclusions even though it's still debate until the Grand Jury decides if there is enough information for a case. while you bring up statistics, it's important to remember that correlation does not imply causation. Fergesun is a predominantly black community, But there are protestors of multiple ethnicities; and there should be. I'm sure any community regardless of skin color would be upset if a cop abused his power and an innocent man is killed. This isn't an issue about race, and shouldn't be, but people make it about race, and it allows racism to exist.

On an unrelated note it's the 21st, not 20th century. Zimmerman was also found not guilty, regardless of Treyvon's status of minor.

[Distriimuir]

And lets be ducking realistic here people: there is far more outrage when a white person dies or a white girl is missing

Stop acting like Caucasians have been discarded and forgotten because we are pointing out some clear issues with those who are meant to protect and serve

Are you actually being serious here...? Because I haven't seen this much outrage over a police shooting in all my life. And I know there have been more innocent men then this one shot to death by police, and a portion of them were no doubt white.

I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. They killed a CRIMINAL! Innocent men and women are dying all over the world every day and we want to freak out and cause chaos over the death of some theif who wasn't contributing to society at all? Please...there are worse things going on. I'll leave this alone with that

HE STOLE $4 WORTH OF BLUNTS.

No life deserves to be ended for $4

It doesn't, but he's not the most perfect person in society like you are making him sound like.
Also, isn't doing drugs in the state he was in illegal?  I'm more than happy to believe otherwise if i'm wrong though.

His main point is, try and figure out the deaths of the people that did nothing, before the people that did something.  it's just prioritizing.

Using Cigar wraps are not equal to doing drugs kid.

[MuggyWuggy]

No where have I stated he was a "perfect person"

You're still justifying that someone's death is OK because they smoked marijuana

Empathy. Get some.

[MuggyWuggy]

You're such an idiot it's wonderful.

Marajuana.

Clearly hooked on phonics did not work for you

[Distriimuir]

See? More and more proof hes a troll. Can't even state an opinion without mommy or daddy or Fox News telling him. Or spell for that matter.

[MuggyWuggy]

Im calling you an idiot because you attempted to correct me with an incorrect spelling

Get off the forums of radical thought before your magic cards are taken away for a week

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

On an unrelated note it's the 21st, not 20th century.

Lol, I have been out of school far too long....

"Correlation doesn't imply causation," actually in most cases it does and especially when all the statistics point to the same thing. Is it just random that all of those facts line up? Extremely unlikely.

[Ekann1]

You're such an idiot it's wonderful.

I may not always agree with him either, but BE NICE. Wasn't this thread created to talk about the topic, not the people arguing/discussing?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Im calling you an idiot because you attempted to correct me with an incorrect spelling

Get off the forums of radical thought before your magic cards are taken away for a week

Any time we want Taysby to take a break we can just use the magic word: sex

[Mattao19]

Im calling you an idiot because you attempted to correct me with an incorrect spelling

Get off the forums of radical thought before your magic cards are taken away for a week

Any time we want Taysby to take a break we can just use the magic word: sex

Lmfao!!

[MuggyWuggy]

You're such an idiot it's wonderful.

I may not always agree with him either, but BE NICE. Wasn't this thread created to talk about the topic, not the people arguing/discussing?

I refuse to be nice when someone just throws in spin and only chooses to troll. If he wants to be snarky and correct my spelling incorrectly, get ready for a  {Lash of the Whip}