Ferguson

[NovusOrbis]

Because Tumblr and Twitter are reliable sources.
The hate's getting hilarious here, and the hypocrisy is tantalizing. "You're wrong because I think I'm right and my sources say I'm right." You don't say?  If you're not willing to listen to both arguments you shouldn't pass judgement. If your decision is based entirely off of emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement. It's not the police force as a whole, it's that one officer. Just because one cop is bad doesn't mean they all are. While some people may be protesting peacefully, there are others that are taking advantage of the opportunity to loot, riot, etc. If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals. The tear gas and militarization of the police is a by ptoduct of the ciolence that ensued out of anger, without rationale. We could discuss the severity of the two crimes, but it's all opinion based; impossible to determine a truth. Brown and the officer are both currently innocent and will remain that way until 12 people decide fate. Life's not always fair, guys, everyone here needs to remember that. I understand why people were angry, I'd be extremely upset if something happened to my community. But I also understand that people can lie, make mistakes, and be human.
I'm done for now until more facts become apparent.

[TheRecklessPlaneswalker]

Because Tumblr and Twitter are reliable sources.
The hate's getting hilarious here, and the hypocrisy is tantalizing. "You're wrong because I think I'm right and my sources say I'm right." You don't say?  If you're not willing to listen to both arguments you shouldn't pass judgement. If your decision is based entirely off of emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement. It's not the police force as a whole, it's that one officer. Just because one cop is bad doesn't mean they all are. While some people may be protesting peacefully, there are others that are taking advantage of the opportunity to loot, riot, etc. If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals. The tear gas and militarization of the police is a by ptoduct of the ciolence that ensued out of anger, without rationale. We could discuss the severity of the two crimes, but it's all opinion based; impossible to determine a truth. Brown and the officer are both currently innocent and will remain that way until 12 people decide fate. Life's not always fair, guys, everyone here needs to remember that. I understand why people were angry, I'd be extremely upset if something happened to my community. But I also understand that people can lie, make mistakes, and be human.
I'm done for now until more facts become apparent.

Just a guess, this wasn't directed to me and my opinion?
Were you refering to the guy who posted the pic from twitter?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Because Tumblr and Twitter are reliable sources.
The hate's getting hilarious here, and the hypocrisy is tantalizing. "You're wrong because I think I'm right and my sources say I'm right." You don't say?  If you're not willing to listen to both arguments you shouldn't pass judgement. If your decision is based entirely off of emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement. It's not the police force as a whole, it's that one officer. Just because one cop is bad doesn't mean they all are. While some people may be protesting peacefully, there are others that are taking advantage of the opportunity to loot, riot, etc. If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals. The tear gas and militarization of the police is a by ptoduct of the ciolence that ensued out of anger, without rationale. We could discuss the severity of the two crimes, but it's all opinion based; impossible to determine a truth. Brown and the officer are both currently innocent and will remain that way until 12 people decide fate. Life's not always fair, guys, everyone here needs to remember that. I understand why people were angry, I'd be extremely upset if something happened to my community. But I also understand that people can lie, make mistakes, and be human.
I'm done for now until more facts become apparent.

The post (if you had read it) wasn't about one person killing one person. It was about police using excessive force and teargasing a crowd of protestors that contains children. "if your decision is based entirely off emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement," yeah well the fact is, what the police are doing right now is immoral, unconstitutional and idiotic. As for "Twitter being a reliable source," the same information has been on EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET IN AMERICA, so yeah, I think its probably right. Here are some more sources though:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/ferguson-protests-police-response_n_5677741.html
"Mostly peaceful protesters in the St. Louis suburb, symbolically holding their hands in the air, were met with tear gas and smoke bombs fired so regularly that several reporters on scene noted it was hard to breathe."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/ferguson-police-teargas-rubber-bullets-michael-brown
"A heavily armed, militarised police force fired teargas and rubber bullets to force hundreds of protesters out of the centre of a small Missouri town on Wednesday, as a crackdown on demonstrations over the killing of an unarmed 18-year-old intensified."

Are some of the protesters to blame? Yes, there have been many who have been violent toward police. Should the police confront a protest against excessive force with excessive force? NO! That is idiotic, it only adds more fuel to the fire.

If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals.

Dude you're totally right! Civil disobedience is disgusting, just ask Ghandi, the Framers of our Constitution, Martin Luther King Jr., Susan B. Anthony....

[TheRecklessPlaneswalker]

I think we need a good purge 😈

[NovusOrbis]

Because Tumblr and Twitter are reliable sources.
The hate's getting hilarious here, and the hypocrisy is tantalizing. "You're wrong because I think I'm right and my sources say I'm right." You don't say?  If you're not willing to listen to both arguments you shouldn't pass judgement. If your decision is based entirely off of emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement. It's not the police force as a whole, it's that one officer. Just because one cop is bad doesn't mean they all are. While some people may be protesting peacefully, there are others that are taking advantage of the opportunity to loot, riot, etc. If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals. The tear gas and militarization of the police is a by ptoduct of the ciolence that ensued out of anger, without rationale. We could discuss the severity of the two crimes, but it's all opinion based; impossible to determine a truth. Brown and the officer are both currently innocent and will remain that way until 12 people decide fate. Life's not always fair, guys, everyone here needs to remember that. I understand why people were angry, I'd be extremely upset if something happened to my community. But I also understand that people can lie, make mistakes, and be human.
I'm done for now until more facts become apparent.

The post (if you had read it) wasn't about one person killing one person. It was about police using excessive force and teargasing a crowd of protestors that contains children. "if your decision is based entirely off emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement," yeah well the fact is, what the police are doing right now is immoral, unconstitutional and idiotic. As for "Twitter being a reliable source," the same information has been on EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET IN AMERICA, so yeah, I think its probably right. Here are some more sources though:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/ferguson-protests-police-response_n_5677741.html
"Mostly peaceful protesters in the St. Louis suburb, symbolically holding their hands in the air, were met with tear gas and smoke bombs fired so regularly that several reporters on scene noted it was hard to breathe."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/ferguson-police-teargas-rubber-bullets-michael-brown
"A heavily armed, militarised police force fired teargas and rubber bullets to force hundreds of protesters out of the centre of a small Missouri town on Wednesday, as a crackdown on demonstrations over the killing of an unarmed 18-year-old intensified."

Are some of the protesters to blame? Yes, there have been many who have been violent toward police. Should the police confront a protest against excessive force with excessive force? NO! That is idiotic, it only adds more fuel to the fire.

If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals.

Dude you're totally right! Civil disobedience is disgusting, just ask Ghandi, the Framers of our Constitution, Martin Luther King Jr., Susan B. Anthony....

Did you even read what I posted? Have you read civil disobedience? And have you seen pictures is MLKs protests vs. Pictures of Fergesun? Please reread what I wrote.

[5/9 Turtle]

This entire "incident", like every other "incident", has dwindled down to something that has been going on ever since the beginning of human history.
A white man shoots an African American man, the family of the Aftican American Man gets the town and the media in a uproar. Because that's how the media works, it gets your attention, regardless of what actually happened.
If a white man killed another white man, we wouldn't hear anything about it
If a black man killed another black man, we wouldn't hear anything about it
In this case...
Did the cop kill the black man: Yes, regardless wether it was right or wrong, it has happened.
Ever since the 60's the African American community has demanded equality. Which after an upward battle, was archived and developed throughout the present.
But the second! An issue that involves a member of a white community kills a member of a black community.
The black family plays the race card. Which the rest of the community has worked so hard to avoid. It happens! The media gets a wiff of it and the world goes into a uproar.

Wether the black man has died unjustifiably, he did do an act that did break the law!
Wether the white cop did respond to the black man unjustifiably, it is his job to respond!

This entire issue is an endless loop which will happen to the end of the time, until we can achieve true equality
Where just because of someone's color that a community can uproar...
It's fighting against something we have been able to wipe away.
But is instantly brought back the second all heck breaks lose.



This entire debate isn't something new. The sooner we can all get past it the better.

This ^^^^^^^^

Every group of people( I'm pretty sure white people at some point) have been in this situation.

[TheRecklessPlaneswalker]

This entire "incident", like every other "incident", has dwindled down to something that has been going on ever since the beginning of human history.
A white man shoots an African American man, the family of the Aftican American Man gets the town and the media in a uproar. Because that's how the media works, it gets your attention, regardless of what actually happened.
If a white man killed another white man, we wouldn't hear anything about it
If a black man killed another black man, we wouldn't hear anything about it
In this case...
Did the cop kill the black man: Yes, regardless wether it was right or wrong, it has happened.
Ever since the 60's the African American community has demanded equality. Which after an upward battle, was archived and developed throughout the present.
But the second! An issue that involves a member of a white community kills a member of a black community.
The black family plays the race card. Which the rest of the community has worked so hard to avoid. It happens! The media gets a wiff of it and the world goes into a uproar.

Wether the black man has died unjustifiably, he did do an act that did break the law!
Wether the white cop did respond to the black man unjustifiably, it is his job to respond!

This entire issue is an endless loop which will happen to the end of the time, until we can achieve true equality
Where just because of someone's color that a community can uproar...
It's fighting against something we have been able to wipe away.
But is instantly brought back the second all heck breaks lose.



This entire debate isn't something new. The sooner we can all get past it the better.

This ^^^^^^^^

Every group of people( I'm pretty sure white people at some point) have been in this situation.

Thanks for acknowledging my opinion.it seems the rest of the debaters skipped over it

[MuggyWuggy]

Here's your race card

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5673291

There is an outrage when wrongful death happens and assassinating the character of any one dead is not right.

Whether white or black or brown. The issue is police brutality against minorities and to deny that is happening still is ignorant

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Because Tumblr and Twitter are reliable sources.
The hate's getting hilarious here, and the hypocrisy is tantalizing. "You're wrong because I think I'm right and my sources say I'm right." You don't say?  If you're not willing to listen to both arguments you shouldn't pass judgement. If your decision is based entirely off of emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement. It's not the police force as a whole, it's that one officer. Just because one cop is bad doesn't mean they all are. While some people may be protesting peacefully, there are others that are taking advantage of the opportunity to loot, riot, etc. If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals. The tear gas and militarization of the police is a by ptoduct of the ciolence that ensued out of anger, without rationale. We could discuss the severity of the two crimes, but it's all opinion based; impossible to determine a truth. Brown and the officer are both currently innocent and will remain that way until 12 people decide fate. Life's not always fair, guys, everyone here needs to remember that. I understand why people were angry, I'd be extremely upset if something happened to my community. But I also understand that people can lie, make mistakes, and be human.
I'm done for now until more facts become apparent.

The post (if you had read it) wasn't about one person killing one person. It was about police using excessive force and teargasing a crowd of protestors that contains children. "if your decision is based entirely off emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement," yeah well the fact is, what the police are doing right now is immoral, unconstitutional and idiotic. As for "Twitter being a reliable source," the same information has been on EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET IN AMERICA, so yeah, I think its probably right. Here are some more sources though:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/ferguson-protests-police-response_n_5677741.html
"Mostly peaceful protesters in the St. Louis suburb, symbolically holding their hands in the air, were met with tear gas and smoke bombs fired so regularly that several reporters on scene noted it was hard to breathe."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/ferguson-police-teargas-rubber-bullets-michael-brown
"A heavily armed, militarised police force fired teargas and rubber bullets to force hundreds of protesters out of the centre of a small Missouri town on Wednesday, as a crackdown on demonstrations over the killing of an unarmed 18-year-old intensified."

Are some of the protesters to blame? Yes, there have been many who have been violent toward police. Should the police confront a protest against excessive force with excessive force? NO! That is idiotic, it only adds more fuel to the fire.

If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals.

Dude you're totally right! Civil disobedience is disgusting, just ask Ghandi, the Framers of our Constitution, Martin Luther King Jr., Susan B. Anthony....

Did you even read what I posted? Have you read civil disobedience? And have you seen pictures is MLKs protests vs. Pictures of Fergesun? Please reread what I wrote.

THIS ISN'T ONE PERSON DOING SOMETHING STUPID, THIS HAPPENS FAR TOO OFTEN AND THAT IS WHY YOUR POST ISN'T WORTH READING, IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG. These protests are about a society in which blacks are treated differently by those who are supposed to protect and defend the law.

http://www.nyclu.org/issues/racial-justice/stop-and-frisk-practices
The vast majority of people stopped under the "Stop and Frisk" law are black or latino.

Far too many black children have been killed for no reason (and in many cases the killers get away with it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/fatal-cases
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/15/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/\





So yeah, if this were an isolated event, you would be right, but guess what, the sad reality is that this is an epidemic. Blacks have been treated as unequal forever and you would think that in the twentieth century we would have grown up.

Now let the negs begin!

Edit: shouldn't be relevant, but sadly is: I am white. Just so everyone can put it in perspective.

[MuggyWuggy]

Because Tumblr and Twitter are reliable sources.
The hate's getting hilarious here, and the hypocrisy is tantalizing. "You're wrong because I think I'm right and my sources say I'm right." You don't say?  If you're not willing to listen to both arguments you shouldn't pass judgement. If your decision is based entirely off of emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement. It's not the police force as a whole, it's that one officer. Just because one cop is bad doesn't mean they all are. While some people may be protesting peacefully, there are others that are taking advantage of the opportunity to loot, riot, etc. If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals. The tear gas and militarization of the police is a by ptoduct of the ciolence that ensued out of anger, without rationale. We could discuss the severity of the two crimes, but it's all opinion based; impossible to determine a truth. Brown and the officer are both currently innocent and will remain that way until 12 people decide fate. Life's not always fair, guys, everyone here needs to remember that. I understand why people were angry, I'd be extremely upset if something happened to my community. But I also understand that people can lie, make mistakes, and be human.
I'm done for now until more facts become apparent.

The post (if you had read it) wasn't about one person killing one person. It was about police using excessive force and teargasing a crowd of protestors that contains children. "if your decision is based entirely off emotion, you shouldn't pass judgement," yeah well the fact is, what the police are doing right now is immoral, unconstitutional and idiotic. As for "Twitter being a reliable source," the same information has been on EVERY MAJOR MEDIA OUTLET IN AMERICA, so yeah, I think its probably right. Here are some more sources though:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14/ferguson-protests-police-response_n_5677741.html
"Mostly peaceful protesters in the St. Louis suburb, symbolically holding their hands in the air, were met with tear gas and smoke bombs fired so regularly that several reporters on scene noted it was hard to breathe."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/14/ferguson-police-teargas-rubber-bullets-michael-brown
"A heavily armed, militarised police force fired teargas and rubber bullets to force hundreds of protesters out of the centre of a small Missouri town on Wednesday, as a crackdown on demonstrations over the killing of an unarmed 18-year-old intensified."

Are some of the protesters to blame? Yes, there have been many who have been violent toward police. Should the police confront a protest against excessive force with excessive force? NO! That is idiotic, it only adds more fuel to the fire.

If you think it's right to break laws because you're outraged that one man either made a mistake or is terrible person, are you no better than who commited the crime initially? No, you are equals.

Dude you're totally right! Civil disobedience is disgusting, just ask Ghandi, the Framers of our Constitution, Martin Luther King Jr., Susan B. Anthony....

Did you even read what I posted? Have you read civil disobedience? And have you seen pictures is MLKs protests vs. Pictures of Fergesun? Please reread what I wrote.

THIS ISN'T ONE PERSON DOING SOMETHING STUPID, THIS HAPPENS FAR TOO OFTEN AND THAT IS WHY YOUR POST ISN'T WORTH READING, IT'S COMPLETELY WRONG. These protests are about a society in which blacks are treated differently by those who are supposed to protect and defend the law.

http://www.nyclu.org/issues/racial-justice/stop-and-frisk-practices
The vast majority of people stopped under the "Stop and Frisk" law are black or latino.

Far too many black children have been killed for no reason (and in many cases the killers get away with it)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin
http://www.tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law/fatal-cases
http://www.cnn.com/2014/02/15/justice/florida-loud-music-trial/\





So yeah, if this were an isolated event, you would be right, but guess what, the sad reality is that this is an epidemic. Blacks have been treated as unequal forever and you would think that in the twentieth century we would have grown up.

Now let the negs begin!

Edit: shouldn't be relevant, but sadly is: I am white. Just so everyone can put it in perspective.

Stop providing sources that support your statements!

[MuggyWuggy]

more footage of an officer threatening someone's life while they document what is happening

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/ferguson-cop-points-gun-journalists-im-fing-kill-you/#Zebm8Kx3afSLJAbK.01

YouTube and various sources may be considered biased but raw unedited footage tells the truth more than any official report

[Gocougs509]

Lets be real here. Mr. Brown was no saint. He was a CRIMINAL. If you ask me, criminals shouldn't be classified as having the same rights as law abiding citizens anyways (but that's a discussion for another day). Sure, what happened to him was a bit excessive, and yes the cop should be punished, but there is no need for this kind of uproar. I'm also under the impression that if he was white, this would not be such a big deal.

But anyways, this .poo. is ridiculous and most of these "protestors" deserve to get hit with tear gas, batons, and thrown behind bars. Just my opinion on the whole thing.

[MuggyWuggy]

Once again the issue is not about who the person was who is now dead, the issue is about excessive force and discrimination against minorities by Law enforcement.

This is not about a good cop or bad cop killing a good or bad person; this is about a cop killing a person when he didnt have to

[MuggyWuggy]

And lets be ducking realistic here people: there is far more outrage when a white person dies or a white girl is missing

Stop acting like Caucasians have been discarded and forgotten because we are pointing out some clear issues with those who are meant to protect and serve

[Gocougs509]

And lets be ducking realistic here people: there is far more outrage when a white person dies or a white girl is missing

Stop acting like Caucasians have been discarded and forgotten because we are pointing out some clear issues with those who are meant to protect and serve

Are you actually being serious here...? Because I haven't seen this much outrage over a police shooting in all my life. And I know there have been more innocent men then this one shot to death by police, and a portion of them were no doubt white.

I just think this whole thing is ridiculous. They killed a CRIMINAL! Innocent men and women are dying all over the world every day and we want to freak out and cause chaos over the death of some theif who wasn't contributing to society at all? Please...there are worse things going on. I'll leave this alone with that