Waste not

[InfinitiveDivinity]

I've found that {Ensnaring Bridge} does a lot more work in this slot than Bob can.

[Mattao19]

I've found that {Ensnaring Bridge} does a lot more work in this slot than Bob can.

That's why you run both. Usually 4 Bob and 2-3 Ensnaring Bridge.

Why don't you like Bob in here?

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

I'm an 8 rack player and I don't run any dark conifdant. He doesn't improve my strategy but in some decks he would. My strategy is to keep both my opponents hand and my own hand empty so ensnaring bridge can keep me safe while the racks do their thing. Card advantage wouldn't be much help there.

As far as waste not goes, I will be experimenting with it as a 1 or 2 of, but I honestly can't see it sticking around.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

I've found that {Ensnaring Bridge} does a lot more work in this slot than Bob can.

That's why you run both. Usually 4 Bob and 2-3 Ensnaring Bridge.

Why don't you like Bob in here?

Running both makes the deck sluggish. It's pretty much one or the other. All other spots are pretty exclusive and forcing slots takes away from the point of the deck. You can run Bob, but it makes the deck play differently and decisions become more complicated. If Bridge is ran, it should be ran as a 4-of, because it just auto-wins against so many decks. But it can also be pretty fragile. Like I said, it all depends on the play style, but I'm partial to Bridge lists.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

I'm an 8 rack player and I don't run any dark conifdant. He doesn't improve my strategy but in some decks he would. My strategy is to keep both my opponents hand and my own hand empty so ensnaring bridge can keep me safe while the racks do their thing. Card advantage wouldn't be much help there.

As far as waste not goes, I will be experimenting with it as a 1 or 2 of, but I honestly can't see it sticking around.

My point exactly. I guess I'm just extremely biased as to what my idea of an 8-rack list should be, I'm not a big fan of Confidant versions. And you made a point I failed to include, card advantage is precisely what you don't want with Bridge on board.

[Mattao19]

It's not confidant versions .. If you look on mtgtop8.com all the rack decks play 4 Bob also Arijan Van Leeuwen (I can't spell his name lol) ran 4 at PT BNG

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

A little off topic, but: could you imagine if they had reprinted {Liliana of the Veil} how much 8rack would cost? {Mutavault} reprint, {Thoughtseize} reprint, {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth} reprint, and a {Liliana of the Veil} reprint. The only valuable cards that would be left are {Dark Confidant} (which isn't 100% necessary) and {Ensnaring Bridge} which is usually only like 2 or 3 of.

[5/9 Turtle]

What is 8rack?

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

What is 8rack?

A discard deck that features 4 {The Rack} and copies 5-8 of the rack, {Shrieking Affliction}. The goal is to keep your opponent's hand empty with either {The Rack} and/or {Shrieking Affliction} on the board, giving you the win.

[Dmreiss]

{Waste Not} is also getting a lot of attention because it was the player made card.  I could see the price dropping shortly after release (like what happens with most cards in a new set).  I don't believe there will be that many people designing decks around this card if they didn't play 8Rack before.

[Teysa karlov]

My 8 each deck runs 4 dark confident. But I'm thinking of replacing them with waste not

[Teysa karlov]

This is the list I will be running
// Smallpox/8Rack

//Lands:
2 {Buried Ruin}
2 {Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth}
3 {Ghost Quarter}
14 {Swamp}

//Spells:
4 {Ensnaring Bridge}
4 {Wrench Mind}
2 {Bitterblossom}
4 {Shrieking Affliction}
4 {Thoughtseize}
4 {The Rack}
4 {Inquisition of Kozilek}
4 {Liliana of the Veil}
2 {Raven's Crime}
3 {Smallpox}
4 {Waste not}

//Sideboard:
2 {Drown in Sorrow}
2 {Dismember}
1 {Bitterblossom}
2 {Nihil Spellbomb}
2 {Pithing Needle}
2 {Ratchet Bomb}
2 {Torpor Orb}
2 {Surgical Extraction}

[Mattao19]

How do you like bitter blossom in here?

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

Yeh I think bitter blossom is a little counter intuitive here. If you are running 4 copies of ensnaring bridge then you don't want any creatures. Especially since you lose a life every turn getting one the chances are you can't attack with anyway, or they can just block. I would personally prefer these slots filled with discard or maybe even removal for those opposing creatures with annoying abilities. Just my two cents though.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

Yeah. Wouldn't work for my deck though cos I run necrogen mists instead of liliana