Waste not

[Teysa karlov]

As some of you will know I'm a massive 8 rack player. And with m15 out in just over a week, come the card {Waste Not}.

It is preordering for £7.99. Do you think this is a reasonable price?

I can only see it really bring useful in 8 rack variants. So I think it's preordering high.

And also a second question.

How much do you think waste not will effect 8 racks standing in the modern meta? 

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I don't think {Waste Not} will be a big thing. Discard decks really need the tempo and giving up turn 2 really sucks, but I could be wrong.

[Teysa karlov]

I don't think {Waste Not} will be a big thing. Discard decks really need the tempo and giving up turn 2 really sucks, but I could be wrong.

True they need tempo. But then I've won games were I have not started discarding my Opp hand  till turn 3 or 4 and won.

Also it keeps them going in the long game with less life lose the bob.

But then bob is bob and epic.

That's why I'm getting as much opinion from this wealth of exp here

[InfinitiveDivinity]

I don't think {Waste Not} will be a big thing. Discard decks really need the tempo and giving up turn 2 really sucks, but I could be wrong.

I feel exactly the same way. The fact that you have to choose specific cards in order for it to operate how you'd like it to really makes it awkward as well. We'll just have to wait and see, but I don't see a loss of a turn 2 to set up a good turn 3 {Wrench Mind} being worth it. The benefit isn't worth the cost, especially being that it is not another rack. There's a reason why {Liliana's Caress} doesn't see play.


Also, Bob shouldn't be in an 8-rack list.

[Stromack]

I don't know what the euro to dollar conversion is, but I'd pay around 5 for waste not.

It's fantastic, and will see play in every variant

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I don't know what the euro to dollar conversion is, but I'd pay around 5 for waste not.

It's fantastic, and will see play in every variant

7.99 euros is equal to $10.87.

[MarduArrow]

I actually think it will do well, kaalia edh with  {Dragon Mage} make it a multiplayer game and it does lots of stuff all at once

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

I actually think it will do well, kaalia edh with  {Dragon Mage} make it a multiplayer game and it does lots of stuff all at once

I was speaking specifically of Modern, in a Nekusar EDH deck this is pretty crazy.

[MarduArrow]

I actually think it will do well, kaalia edh with  {Dragon Mage} make it a multiplayer game and it does lots of stuff all at once

I was speaking specifically of Modern, in a Nekusar EDH deck this is pretty crazy.

That'll work too

[Mattao19]

Bob is what makes 8 rack playable ...

[Hunteroffire9]

As some of you will know I'm a massive 8 rack player. And with m15 out in just over a week, come the card {Waste Not}.

It is preordering for £7.99. Do you think this is a reasonable price?

I can only see it really bring useful in 8 rack variants. So I think it's preordering high.

And also a second question.

How much do you think waste not will effect 8 racks standing in the modern meta?

It's an alright card but on tcgplayer its only 6 American dollars..

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Bob is what makes 8 rack playable ...

I disagree.

[Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth]

Bob is what makes 8 rack playable ...

I disagree.

Bob is what makes 8rack good. Yes, it is playable if you can 1 for 1 them all day with discard and {Raven's Crime}, and win as long as there is a {The Rack} or {Shrieking Affliction} on the board, but Bob makes it so you are functionally drawing a card every turn and your opponent isn't.

[InfinitiveDivinity]

Bob is what makes 8 rack playable ...

I disagree.

Bob is what makes 8rack good. Yes, it is playable if you can 1 for 1 them all day with discard and {Raven's Crime}, and win as long as there is a {The Rack} or {Shrieking Affliction} on the board, but Bob makes it so you are functionally drawing a card every turn and your opponent isn't.

It honestly depends on the list, a list with Bob is going to be struggling to keep him alive most of the time in order to net some cards due to him being your (hopefully) only creature. Dropping him allows you to create a more linear strategy. It sounds weird, but I believe nonBob lists to be a bit more successful. It is a matter of taste also though.

[Mattao19]

Bob is what makes 8 rack playable ...

I disagree.

Bob is what makes 8rack good. Yes, it is playable if you can 1 for 1 them all day with discard and {Raven's Crime}, and win as long as there is a {The Rack} or {Shrieking Affliction} on the board, but Bob makes it so you are functionally drawing a card every turn and your opponent isn't.

This exactly! Well put!! Like Bob makes it so you draw while you're opponent doesn't which is great bc 1 for 1ing only gets you so far