Post Ban Modern Eggs

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, November 21, 2013, 07:30:01 PM

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abstractApathist

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 09, 2013, 09:25:20 PM
Okay, so I got my deck together today and I have been watching deck footage and playtesting the last 4 hours, on top of the research I have been doing in the past few weeks. I think I have enough experience to now comment on the deck but don't think too much of what I have to say. First of all, I am using a pretty normal decklist but I don't have fetches and I am not using {Semblance Anvil}s (I think it slowed the deck down and of course it takes one of your 8 crucial spells out of the deck). I think the deck is doing okay, but will never be the same as before the {Second Sunrise} ban. {Open the Vaults} doesn't return lands, which is a HUGE downside on top of the high cost which REALLY takes away from the consistency, you get less deck thinning and of course your mana slows down. That being said I am pretty consistently comboing off on turn 5 or 6. It's still really good but I don't think its tier one (or maybe even tier 2) any more. I am just using the deck to make me a better player because the deck makes me think, but also because it is really interesting.
While mental excercises are always good, if you want a deck that makes you think and takes a skilled pilot, try out Melira-Pod. It is one of the most versatile decks, yet among the hardest to play correctly.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: abstractApathist on December 09, 2013, 10:51:48 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 09, 2013, 09:25:20 PM
Okay, so I got my deck together today and I have been watching deck footage and playtesting the last 4 hours, on top of the research I have been doing in the past few weeks. I think I have enough experience to now comment on the deck but don't think too much of what I have to say. First of all, I am using a pretty normal decklist but I don't have fetches and I am not using {Semblance Anvil}s (I think it slowed the deck down and of course it takes one of your 8 crucial spells out of the deck). I think the deck is doing okay, but will never be the same as before the {Second Sunrise} ban. {Open the Vaults} doesn't return lands, which is a HUGE downside on top of the high cost which REALLY takes away from the consistency, you get less deck thinning and of course your mana slows down. That being said I am pretty consistently comboing off on turn 5 or 6. It's still really good but I don't think its tier one (or maybe even tier 2) any more. I am just using the deck to make me a better player because the deck makes me think, but also because it is really interesting.
While mental excercises are always good, if you want a deck that makes you think and takes a skilled pilot, try out Melira-Pod. It is one of the most versatile decks, yet among the hardest to play correctly.
Ahh but Eggs can be played for like $60 Melira-Pod costs A LOT more.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: Taysby on December 09, 2013, 10:50:32 PM
Are you using {karak iron works}?  If so, that's slower than {semblance anvil} as far as I can tell  because it costs 1 more.  I'm confused.
I don't use either. I use a playset of {Serum Vision}s, a playset of {Sleight of Hand}s, a playset of {Reshape}s and 2 {Gitaxian Probe}s. Between the draw and the search I can usually get 2 {Lotus Blossom}s out by turn 4 and when I sac them I produce the 6 mana I need to {Open the Vaults}; if I have {Reward the Faithful} I just have extra mana laying around.

abstractApathist

Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: abstractApathist on December 10, 2013, 08:21:04 PM
Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.
I am not going to PTQs or anything with Eggs. I have a Selesnya Hexproof Auras deck that is competitive modern (the one Reid Duke used at the World Championship).

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: abstractApathist on December 10, 2013, 08:21:04 PM
Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.
Okay, so the reason I was scared by the price tag of Pod was the first two decklists I looked at had $555 and $800. Being a poor high school student with the only source of income being 7.5 hours a week at minimum wage, I knew I couldn't afford it. Last night I looked back into it and realized that like $150 buys you the list the rest is just land, half of which I own and the other half stuff I need for other decks anyways. So I have decided to start making Pod.

Mlerner12

Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 14, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on December 10, 2013, 08:21:04 PM
Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.
Okay, so the reason I was scared by the price tag of Pod was the first two decklists I looked at had $555 and $800. Being a poor high school student with the only source of income being 7.5 hours a week at minimum wage, I knew I couldn't afford it. Last night I looked back into it and realized that like $150 buys you the list the rest is just land, half of which I own and the other half stuff I need for other decks anyways. So I have decided to start making Pod.
Good luck and welcome to the hardest deck in modern :D
It is definitely NOT the hardest.

Mlerner12

Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 14, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 14, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on December 10, 2013, 08:21:04 PM
Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.
Okay, so the reason I was scared by the price tag of Pod was the first two decklists I looked at had $555 and $800. Being a poor high school student with the only source of income being 7.5 hours a week at minimum wage, I knew I couldn't afford it. Last night I looked back into it and realized that like $150 buys you the list the rest is just land, half of which I own and the other half stuff I need for other decks anyways. So I have decided to start making Pod.
Good luck and welcome to the hardest deck in modern :D
It is definitely NOT the hardest.
And would the hardest be then?
Err... Something else? ;)

Mlerner12

Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 14, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 14, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 14, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on December 10, 2013, 08:21:04 PM
Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.
Okay, so the reason I was scared by the price tag of Pod was the first two decklists I looked at had $555 and $800. Being a poor high school student with the only source of income being 7.5 hours a week at minimum wage, I knew I couldn't afford it. Last night I looked back into it and realized that like $150 buys you the list the rest is just land, half of which I own and the other half stuff I need for other decks anyways. So I have decided to start making Pod.
Good luck and welcome to the hardest deck in modern :D
It is definitely NOT the hardest.
And would the hardest be then?
Err... Something else? ;)
The reason Pod is so versatile and also so hard to pilot is that you are essentially playing a deck of one-ofs and tutors. The intricate ways in which these cards can interact is great, but also means you have to keep track of them all. That means a lot of decision-making when it comes to say, {{Chord of Calling}}, which can essentially summon almost half your deck. Knowing which card is best and can pressure the opponent is essential. Put it to you this way: it's a deck that is non-linear, that you can't goldfish it. How many other decks that are 29-31 creatures can you say that?
Eh, yeah, sounds pretty hard

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

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Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:59:02 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 14, 2013, 03:49:25 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mlerner12 on December 14, 2013, 03:40:26 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on December 14, 2013, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 14, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on December 10, 2013, 08:21:04 PM
Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.
Okay, so the reason I was scared by the price tag of Pod was the first two decklists I looked at had $555 and $800. Being a poor high school student with the only source of income being 7.5 hours a week at minimum wage, I knew I couldn't afford it. Last night I looked back into it and realized that like $150 buys you the list the rest is just land, half of which I own and the other half stuff I need for other decks anyways. So I have decided to start making Pod.
Good luck and welcome to the hardest deck in modern :D
It is definitely NOT the hardest.
And would the hardest be then?
Err... Something else? ;)
The reason Pod is so versatile and also so hard to pilot is that you are essentially playing a deck of one-ofs and tutors. The intricate ways in which these cards can interact is great, but also means you have to keep track of them all. That means a lot of decision-making when it comes to say, {{Chord of Calling}}, which can essentially summon almost half your deck. Knowing which card is best and can pressure the opponent is essential. Put it to you this way: it's a deck that is non-linear, that you can't goldfish it. How many other decks that are 29-31 creatures can you say that?
Yeah, I hope to have it together by my birthday (April 2) because I want to finish a couple of EDH decks, possibly a legacy deck (its a cheap combo, so not ridiculous) and buy the rest of my Selesnya Modern ($350 worth of lands :( ). That gives me PLENTY of time to watch pros and learn. I am also probably going to print proxies so I can learn to play the deck. But of course, any tips on how to use the deck are welcome. I am going to use Josh McClain's decklist (http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/eventcoverage/gpdet13/welcome) to start and tweak it to my playstyle.

abstractApathist

With pod, practice makes perfect is exactly right. Also, you really oughta memorize your decklist because you can {Chord of Calling} for something smaller than what you pay for, but you have to get an exact mana cost with {Birthing Pod}. Knowing exactly what creature to pod off and what to pod for requires complete knowledge of your deck.

Silent1236

Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on December 14, 2013, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on December 10, 2013, 08:21:04 PM
Melira-Pod may cost a lot more, but that's the modern format in a nutshell. If you don't have the budget to play modern, I would recommend playing a different format rather than trying to make a mediocre budget deck work (like post-ban eggs). Tryingto take a less-than-great deck to most modern events results in defeat.
Okay, so the reason I was scared by the price tag of Pod was the first two decklists I looked at had $555 and $800. Being a poor high school student with the only source of income being 7.5 hours a week at minimum wage, I knew I couldn't afford it. Last night I looked back into it and realized that like $150 buys you the list the rest is just land, half of which I own and the other half stuff I need for other decks anyways. So I have decided to start making Pod.

Welcome to non-standard MtG haha. 

fj76ts4

April 2nd birthday? Have your parents ever gone "IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY TODAY" a day early and then "april fools"?

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: fj76ts4 on December 14, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
April 2nd birthday? Have your parents ever gone "IT'S YOUR BIRTHDAY TODAY" a day early and then "april fools"?
No, but my mom went into labor late on March 31 and was scared that I would be born on April Fool's day. Lucky for her (or unlucky because of how long labor was) I was born on April 2 at like 6 AM.

Dstyle1

With pod work in learning the pod chains.
Memorize how much life you need to how much mana you have available.

When you cord with a wall if roots out you can use the wall mana and tap it for chord to essentially gain 2 mana.

If you chord for eternal witness then you can choose the chord as your return target. Then next turn chord for an angel, blink witness, get chord back, etc...,

In game theory always comes down to... Do I go aggro or go for the combo. That's the nicest thing about pod I'd that it can do both. Just tough to know which position your in.  Welcome to pod >:D