Whoever gets the last post wins!

[Minecraft1]

Yes

[IntoFire]

No!

[MarduArrow]

Yes http://youtu.be/9hJkvwoddxY

[PapaBudz]

That's a good laugh.

[Minecraft1]

Just finished reading Angels and Demons

[rarehuntertay]

Haven't read his newest one yet...

[Destore117]

So what was that about winning this thread?

[Austinist1]

God would be both omnipotent and omniscient. God may have knowledge of the future and the power to change it, but that does not mean God influences life.

I completely agree with this, as long as I understand the wording. I believe he is tryin to say that because God exists and He could change the future, the past, or the present if He wanted to, He chooses not to because that is simply part of His nature, therefore divine preordination or God's plan exists as does our free will. Although our free will only exists because it is decreed by God

In fact!, free will is part of His plan, therefore free will CANNOT exist without divine preordation.

[Mlerner12]

God would be both omnipotent and omniscient. God may have knowledge of the future and the power to change it, but that does not mean God influences life.

I completely agree with this, as long as I understand the wording. I believe he is tryin to say that because God exists and He could change the future, the past, or the present if He wanted to, He chooses not to because that is simply part of His nature, therefore divine preordination or God's plan exists as does our free will. Although our free will only exists because it is decreed by God

In fact!, free will is part of His plan, therefore free will CANNOT exist without divine preordation.

Well it is preplanned, and that is the OPPOSITE of free will. Elaborate in why you think that?

[Minecraft1]

VOTE FOR PEDRO!!!

[Austinist1]

God would be both omnipotent and omniscient. God may have knowledge of the future and the power to change it, but that does not mean God influences life.

I completely agree with this, as long as I understand the wording. I believe he is tryin to say that because God exists and He could change the future, the past, or the present if He wanted to, He chooses not to because that is simply part of His nature, therefore divine preordination or God's plan exists as does our free will. Although our free will only exists because it is decreed by God

In fact!, free will is part of His plan, therefore free will CANNOT exist without divine preordation.

Well it is preplanned, and that is the OPPOSITE of free will. Elaborate in why you think that?

Wrong. Free will is described as (in the sense we are usin it) the ability to choose who to follow as a god, these choices being Satan and God. But it can also be described as  the ability to make and execute decisions upon a thought or action stemming from yourself at any given moment in time. Although, because the divine being we speak of declares that we will have free will, it is true. This applies wether it makes sense to us or not. It simply is.

[MarduArrow]

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[Austinist1]

Elipsis

[Mlerner12]

Brohemufasa

[rarehuntertay]

I choose to follow  {Thassa, God of the Sea} for Modern. She is a god, right? Says so in the name, right?