Is Infect OP?

[Coffee Vampire]

Do you think infect is OP? Some think it dumbs down magic, others think it makes it smarter. Some think it should never come back after rotaing, others band together and hope to use infect some day in the future.

What do you think?

[1337m00nm4n]

Eh, I would say it's somewhat overpowered with just the concept of basically cutting down the amount of damage needed to kill to 10, but there are counters against it like counter removal and {melira, sylvok outcast}.

[Willthomjr]

It's interesting to say the least. I came into magic having no idea about infect and can admit its a cheap way to win. But it's a game and when you've been making cards for nearly 20 years, ya gotta change it up I suppose.

[Coffee Vampire]

I know what you mean...I first started and my friend was teaching me to play. All of a sudden be said "you won." (I was using his infect deck). I was like "huh? Ok..."

Of course later I learned he was holding back to help me win one of my first games lol

[Dudecore]

I think that it is foolish from a design standpoint. They messed up a few things on a very short period of time.

1) the only drawback of a Creature should not be its mana cost. ({Primeval Titan} being a notorious culprit)

2) Never let players trade life for mana.

3) Not allowing players to remove counters.

4) The very notion of {Cavern of Souls}.

I don't think Infect is a very good concept, while it does have drawbacks, the very idea is a silly one.

Is it Overpowered? I would say a {Blighted Agent} with swords and some pump spells is a good strategy. I just maintain that infect is a silly concept, and not necessary.

[JaCe BeLeReN]

The biggest reason I think infect could be considered OP is because there is only one card that heals infect. {Leeches}

[scarsabrex]

bit of a generalization i'm going on but infect is not op. otherwise you would see it top 8 alot more major tournaments than it does now.

[Kuberr]

bit of a generalization i'm going on but infect is not op. otherwise you would see it top 8 alot more major tournaments than it does now.

Or because they're better than that? Lol

Pros make the decks you copy. (you being the general net deckers) they don't need to make an infect deck. Though they do use it. Most use {inkmoth nexus}. They make their own decks. Because they know how.

[Dudecore]

Most Wolf Run decks run {Inkmoth Nexus} as a win condition.

[Kuberr]

Most Wolf Run decks run {Inkmoth Nexus} as a win condition.

Eh. I think it's more optional.

[Willthomjr]

Most Wolf Run decks run {Inkmoth Nexus} as a win condition.

Eh. I think it's more optional.

It is optiOnal like everything else. But more than half (75-85%) run them since prime time brings 2 when he drops (usually)

[scarsabrex]

bit of a generalization i'm going on but infect is not op. otherwise you would see it top 8 alot more major tournaments than it does now.

Or because they're better than that? Lol

Pros make the decks you copy. (you being the general net deckers) they don't need to make an infect deck. Though they do use it. Most use {inkmoth nexus}. They make their own decks. Because they know how.

pros aren't better than op cards. if infect was op pros would break it and run rampant. caw blade is the most recent example of this. delver is a halfgood example. if infect was op there'd have either been bigger winnings or obvious bannings. I rest my case.

[Kuberr]

Case? I see your point but you're missing mine.

Pros are not scrubs. They don't take the easy way out. You should watch some pro tours or worlds.

[scarsabrex]

they do take the easy way out. caw blade and delver are my prime examples. and even if you assume they weren't scrubs and that infect was op some slightly talented jerk off would have already piloted the deck to let all other net deckers rush for freedom.

[GoJuDragon]

Please excuse my ignorance, but what's caw blade. From what I've seen it seems just like delver blade