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ELLERfeller

So we all can agree the system wouldn't work in America right? The most selfish country to my knowledge..

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Rass

Quote from: ELLERfeller on April 27, 2016, 09:15:31 PM
So we all can agree the system wouldn't work in America right? The most selfish country to my knowledge..

I really don't think it will work anywhere. But I don't think a truly free market will either.

redwolv

Quote from: Rass on April 27, 2016, 09:39:08 PM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on April 27, 2016, 09:15:31 PM
So we all can agree the system wouldn't work in America right? The most selfish country to my knowledge..

I really don't think it will work anywhere. But I don't think a truly free market will either.
Agreed. A true free market does work in principle. Once again it fails in pactice But this time it is not because of human nature, but knowledge. A true free market requires consumers to know everything about the quality of a good. The issue is to know everything about the quality of a good is complicated. Something as simple as an apple is easy to a degree, but take something like meat. When you look at a peice of butchered steak there is alot of information. How old was it, if the animal was sick, if the meat was properly handled. In a true free market you would know all this information, but to aquire that requires a lot of information. Sure it could be stamped on the packaging, but if the butcher is making the stamp what stops him from falsifying information.


Both socialism and free market are great ideally but both have their flaws. That is why most economies have traits from both sides.

ELLERfeller

Too cool for your political .poo! -Taysby

redwolv

Quote from: Taysby on April 27, 2016, 10:59:53 PM
Didn't read any of that
TL:DR
Best working economy is a blanced one.
Regulated but free.

LinkCelestrial


Kaylesh

*Wakes up*
Wait, what happened? Seeing discussions on .politics. and economics.

ELLERfeller

Quote from: Taysby on April 28, 2016, 12:48:35 AM
Quote from: ELLERfeller on April 27, 2016, 11:31:34 PM
Too cool for your political .poo! -Taysby
Funny you should say that...

And I just got really behind and didn't feel like taking 10 minutes to get up to speed. XD
I ain't got the time for your political .poo!! - Taysby

LinkCelestrial


ELLERfeller

Karma system is slightly broken on this app. So I can agree with you there!

ELLERfeller

Speaking of that my already low karma took a hit! Just for having an opinion!

Piotr

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 27, 2016, 05:59:34 PM
Quote from: Piotr on April 27, 2016, 04:21:01 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2016, 06:08:06 PM
You call them poisoned. He'd call them optimistic or educated.

They simply do not understand that 2 + 2 = 4 and are falling for a conman who claims he thinks it is possible for 2 + 2 = 5. This trick only works in the reality created for them by the conman in their brains only. In our common shared reality 2 + 2 = 4.

The same applies to Socialists like {Bernie Sanders}.

It is not such a concrete thing as 2 + 2 = 4. It's more like say, the square root of -4. It must exist, according to some equations in advanced physics (I believe it has something to do with quadratic formulas that simplify into the sum of squares. I don't quite remember.), but there are still those that claim it does not exist, and being as an actual value hasn't been found, and a formula where it doesn't work not being found either, neither party is currently right or wrong.

The essence of this is that you are extremely condescending and rude about a group of people that simply don't agree with you about something that has yet to be made black and white. Again I say, if you're so certain save some people time and money and prove them wrong. Their intentions are not to "poison minds" and waste money.

As for the socialists. They simply have an ideal world that has failed to work in reality so far. That doesn't make people like Bernie conmen or idiots. He believes it could work. It's not like  capitalism isn't a flawed system. It's simply the best in practice so far.

Socialism has been tried and tested and it failed. 2 + 2 = 4 and Bernie is a crook and conman.

I could not care less about intentions of idiots, I care about the damage their actions make to innocent people.

Piotr

Quote from: Taysby on April 27, 2016, 10:59:53 PM
Didn't read any of that

I did, many times over. I'm sort of sick and tired of hearing the same crap all over again. 150 years old bullshit.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Piotr on April 28, 2016, 06:48:48 PM
Socialism has been tried and tested and it failed. 2 + 2 = 4 and Bernie is a crook and conman.

I could not care less about intentions of idiots, I care about the damage their actions make to innocent people.

Sweden begs to differ. I do not agree with the words crook and conman

Having a different view than you is not caused by an IQ below 19.

You are right, in the real world impact is more important than intention. However intentions are still very important. That's the difference between an accident and first degree murder.