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Started by Taysby, June 18, 2015, 09:04:33 PM

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Kaylesh

Quote from: MommaB on June 27, 2015, 05:02:18 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 26, 2015, 09:48:22 PM
Proxy at fnm? Man thats a kitchen table thing. Any store that allows proxies at a sanctioned event will never get my business again. No matter what the circumstances  I dont care if you own 20 of the card. If you are playing with a proxied version of it you deserve to be dq'd.

I do see the judges decision though... If you had 4 copies of each p9 would you play them or proxy to be able to preserve them ... I guess it's everyone's opinion but there are some expensive pieces of cardboard here ... My LGS has the rule if you proxy you must show the cards first then preserve them and any player has the right to do so, our modern players proxy their tarms bc they're expensive cards
Agree to this. I could even imagine using it like a double-faced card. Just to prevent damage from the tons of shuffles. I mean with fetches you're looking at quite a few riffles each game.

Mr_Fahrenheit

Quote from: MommaB on June 27, 2015, 05:02:18 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 26, 2015, 09:48:22 PM
Proxy at fnm? Man thats a kitchen table thing. Any store that allows proxies at a sanctioned event will never get my business again. No matter what the circumstances  I dont care if you own 20 of the card. If you are playing with a proxied version of it you deserve to be dq'd.

I do see the judges decision though... If you had 4 copies of each p9 would you play them or proxy to be able to preserve them ... I guess it's everyone's opinion but there are some expensive pieces of cardboard here ... My LGS has the rule if you proxy you must show the cards first then preserve them and any player has the right to do so, our modern players proxy their tarms bc they're expensive cards

Yeah ill just borrow my friends playset of goyf to show the judge, then give them back and then i can play with proxies for the next however long. See the way to abuse the system there?

Good luck getting away with that at a GP.

I believe if you want to play the game you use the cards. If you are worried about the value of you collection that much then maybe you should just stick to collecting. Just my 2 cents. This sorta topic is something im passionate about so i apologize if i come across as a douchebag.

MuggyWuggy

Own the cards and play em

Use shocks if you don't have duals

griffin131

Quote from: Taysby on June 26, 2015, 06:47:02 PM
I asked the head judge, and he said as long as I own 4 of any given card, I can proxy it for all future decks and play it at fnm. I just don't like being that chump.
Allowing proxies at a DCI Sanctioned event is a no-no.
Like, pulling DCI sanctioning of the store level no-no.

Kaylesh

Quote from: griffin131 on June 27, 2015, 12:35:45 PM
Quote from: Taysby on June 26, 2015, 06:47:02 PM
I asked the head judge, and he said as long as I own 4 of any given card, I can proxy it for all future decks and play it at fnm. I just don't like being that chump.
Allowing proxies at a DCI Sanctioned event is a no-no.
Like, pulling DCI sanctioning of the store level no-no.
Ok.. Learn something every day.

MuggyWuggy

Dci will pull the rug from under you fast


No more pptqs
No more GPTs
No more/limited prereleases
Limited FNM promos

It can get nasty fast

Falcon182

We do 10 proxy legacy, un sanctioned at my LGS. I like it. It allows a whole lot more people to participate than would otherwise be able to.

Ekann1

Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 27, 2015, 07:37:18 AM
Quote from: MommaB on June 27, 2015, 05:02:18 AM
Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on June 26, 2015, 09:48:22 PM
Proxy at fnm? Man thats a kitchen table thing. Any store that allows proxies at a sanctioned event will never get my business again. No matter what the circumstances  I dont care if you own 20 of the card. If you are playing with a proxied version of it you deserve to be dq'd.

I do see the judges decision though... If you had 4 copies of each p9 would you play them or proxy to be able to preserve them ... I guess it's everyone's opinion but there are some expensive pieces of cardboard here ... My LGS has the rule if you proxy you must show the cards first then preserve them and any player has the right to do so, our modern players proxy their tarms bc they're expensive cards

Yeah ill just borrow my friends playset of goyf to show the judge, then give them back and then i can play with proxies for the next however long. See the way to abuse the system there?

Good luck getting away with that at a GP.

I believe if you want to play the game you use the cards. If you are worried about the value of you collection that much then maybe you should just stick to collecting. Just my 2 cents. This sorta topic is something im passionate about so i apologize if i come across as a douchebag.
And that's why GPs are a different level rules enforcement than FNMs ;)

griffin131

Not that it matters because the proxy rules are the same at any DCI event.

Falcon182

Quote from: griffin131 on June 28, 2015, 11:41:16 AM
Not that it matters because the proxy rules are the same at any DCI event.

A judge can approve a "proxy" if you have the card and it's unplayable due to condition, or marked like a bent foil. It seems like these are on case by case tho.

MuggyWuggy

Kinda wanna make a jund deck

Falcon182

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 28, 2015, 01:56:00 PM
Kinda wanna make a jund deck

Punishing Jund, Legacy? It's not super top tier but has been pretty consistent. Not much beats  {Bloodbraid Elf} In to  {Tarmogoyf} And  {Punishing Fire} matches up well against a fair number of legacy threats.

MuggyWuggy

Yeah just seems a lot of fun, I love the cascade effect

MuggyWuggy

Then again, true name is just nasty

Falcon182

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 28, 2015, 02:16:34 PM
Then again, true name is just nasty

That's why you put things like  {Engineered Plague} and  {Massacre} or  {Marsh Casualties}.