THIS! Is the official plane vote for the community set.

[Birdbrain]

Woo gaining supprt one person at a time

i disagree about only nature having{B} though. And about only progress having {R}

Making nature golgari or junk is very limited view and design space. And making progress only USA is the same thing

Can someone else voice there opinion? I'm getting very tired of being the only one voicing there opinion on everything

[MisterJH]

White is neither nature nor progress. And i just think black for the most part is brutalistic and not very sophisticated, such as {bump in the night} or {go for the throat} whereas red is ar least somewhat about efficiency, such as with burn, which related to industry in the example of assembly lines and time reducing inventions and such. Thats my reasoning

[MisterJH]

Not saying youre wrong or i completely disagree, simply detailing my thought processes

[Dudecore]

Red is passionate, not heartless. Sure they're short sighted, it's impulsive and chaotic. Also, red craves freedom, they don't want to be tied down. Red being slave-drivers is a bit of a stretch.

I know you're trying to make things fit, and for the sake of flavor - are making concessions for the colors. The truth is that the color pie, no one thing is clear cut.

[MisterJH]

I need some color pie.
But ya idk its just an idea i had while on the crapper.

[Birdbrain]

Also. There is a subtler side of black. Ever heard of dimir? It's also selfish, and power grabbing. I'm trying to see how black fits for nature, but I'm afraid I'm having trouble seeing it

[Iandtormentor]

I vote flicker's

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Ok again not on track but i thought of this..

{B} Black is the brutality of nature, such as disease starvation and fighting for resources/territory

{G} Green represents the serenity of nature, and the wish to continue as before

{W} Angel-themed, white is divine an above the struggles of the world. White is on the fences basically, and has support for both sides as well as a single mechanic that will work for both

{R} Red represents the brutality of industry. Think back to the industrial age, where workers were stepped on to increase production and wealth.

{U} Blue represents the logical side of industry, and the benefits of advancement instead of the greedy money side.

As you can see, {B}/{G} and {R}/{U} are two sides of the same coin. Just my idea of how to make the set interesting

I can see where you're coming from, but would red work better as a nature side, or an industrial side?  Same as black.

[Dudecore]

Make them ambivalent to the whole thing. {B} will use whatever side that gives them what they want. {R} will be nature leaning, they generally hate artifacts - it can be the swing for vote nature/nurture. {W} can assume a similar position. That's the funny thing about them being allied colors.

It all has to be a big loop. That is how the color pie works.

{W} - uncreative, peace and order.
Friendly with {G} and {U}. More or less indifferent to the whole thing, as long as order is kept.
Enemies with {B} and {R}. Doesn't like black selfishness and red impulsive anarchy.

{U} - creative, logic and technology.
Friendly with {W} and {B}. Blues quest for knowledge, understanding and desire to control has them being friendly with black. Blue likes the way that black extracts information with force.
Enemies with {G} and {R}. Blue doesn't like green because of its stubborn ways. It doesn't share the same desire for knowledge that Blue does. Red is too impulsive and not forward-thinking for blues taste.

[ntheawsome]

Stop turning the set into a color war. Progress can pretty much fit all the colors, and nature can to

[MisterJH]

But for the sake of mechanics and theme there need to be color lines for the set, the question is deciding the split

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

But for the sake of mechanics and theme there need to be color lines for the set, the question is deciding the split

Sure but there will be a very small amount of blue nature cards, such as birds, same as green having a progress like card, remember {harmonize}?
which is why I like kaleo's mech, it could be both nature, and progress, it being very versatile.  Which makes a good mech.
That's why I'm putting up a page of liable mechs that we will vote on for the first set.  Please visit it, this will make the process much easier to follow.
Have fun guys.

[Dudecore]

But for the sake of mechanics and theme there need to be color lines for the set, the question is deciding the split

Sure but there will be a very small amount of blue nature cards, such as birds, same as green having a progress like card, remember {harmonize}?
which is why I like kaleo's mech, it could be both nature, and progress, it being very versatile.  Which makes a good mech.
That's why I'm putting up a page of liable mechs that we will vote on for the first set.  Please visit it, this will make the process much easier to follow.
Have fun guys.

Planar Chaos is a set that specifically set out to stretch the color pie in all directions. Which is a theme onto itself.

[FlickerYourOwnIdentity]

Okay guys, I feel that this section has lost it's intrest so I'm ending this vote in the very near future.  Tell me if you feel there should be more time, if no one says anything then it will most likely end 2 days from now.

[Birdbrain]

What if there was a creature that was born from pure green mana. Was faerie like, only it had bird shaped wings and leaves for feathers

They'd be guardiuns of the wild. They'd be spiritual (green has Shamans and Druids) care about community, yet be wild and savage at times