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Started by Stoneco1d869, March 20, 2013, 02:40:26 AM

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Keyeto

Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on March 20, 2013, 06:43:18 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on March 20, 2013, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on March 20, 2013, 05:15:52 PM
Ok so if I pull  {Journey to Nowhere} with Zur could I target  {Animar, Soul of Elements}?

No journey is not an aura. It has a targeting etb effect.

Ok but something like  {Prison Term} would work?
Yes. It works with auras, since in order for them to remain on the field, they have to be enchanting something. They serve no other purpose. So when you "cheat" then into play, like with Zur, the game more or less "forces" them into enchanting something, if there are legal targets. Since this is the case (as opposed to you casting it), the process doesn't target anything.

scarsabrex

Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 07:17:13 PM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on March 20, 2013, 06:43:18 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on March 20, 2013, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on March 20, 2013, 05:15:52 PM
Ok so if I pull  {Journey to Nowhere} with Zur could I target  {Animar, Soul of Elements}?

No journey is not an aura. It has a targeting etb effect.

Ok but something like  {Prison Term} would work?
Yes. It works with auras, since in order for them to remain on the field, they have to be enchanting something. They serve no other purpose. So when you "cheat" then into play, like with Zur, the game more or less "forces" them into enchanting something, if there are legal targets. Since this is the case (as opposed to you casting it), the process doesn't target anything.

Actually still no because of the specific target in question. Animar has protection from white and therefore, cannot be enchanted by white cards by any means.

Greg54js

Quote from: scarsabrex on March 20, 2013, 08:41:34 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 07:17:13 PM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on March 20, 2013, 06:43:18 PM
Quote from: scarsabrex on March 20, 2013, 05:22:38 PM
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on March 20, 2013, 05:15:52 PM
Ok so if I pull  {Journey to Nowhere} with Zur could I target  {Animar, Soul of Elements}?

No journey is not an aura. It has a targeting etb effect.

Ok but something like  {Prison Term} would work?
Yes. It works with auras, since in order for them to remain on the field, they have to be enchanting something. They serve no other purpose. So when you "cheat" then into play, like with Zur, the game more or less "forces" them into enchanting something, if there are legal targets. Since this is the case (as opposed to you casting it), the process doesn't target anything.

Actually still no because of the specific target in question. Animar has protection from white and therefore, cannot be enchanted by white cards by any means.
Yeah scars is right. You may get around the original targeting issue but it doesn't solve the "it falls off anyway cause I'm pro white" problem

Keyeto

Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.

Greg54js

Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.
no worries :) we've got your back

Keyeto

Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.
no worries :) we've got your back
And I'm glad! Been in Rules overload lately lol

Greg54js

Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.
no worries :) we've got your back
And I'm glad! Been in Rules overload lately lol
So I've noticed.. are you an actual judge?

Keyeto

Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.
no worries :) we've got your back
And I'm glad! Been in Rules overload lately lol
So I've noticed.. are you an actual judge?
No, but I have been considering taking the tests to become one. I'll probably at least start in the near future. It'd be pretty cool to be official!

Greg54js

Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.
no worries :) we've got your back
And I'm glad! Been in Rules overload lately lol
So I've noticed.. are you an actual judge?
No, but I have been considering taking the tests to become one. I'll probably at least start in the near future. It'd be pretty cool to be official!
I've been trying to become a rules advisor but it's a lot harder than I realized.. I hope to accomplish it this summer with the help of some local judges

Keyeto

Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.
no worries :) we've got your back
And I'm glad! Been in Rules overload lately lol
So I've noticed.. are you an actual judge?
No, but I have been considering taking the tests to become one. I'll probably at least start in the near future. It'd be pretty cool to be official!
I've been trying to become a rules advisor but it's a lot harder than I realized.. I hope to accomplish it this summer with the help of some local judges
Well, I'll have to keep that in mind. Let me know how it goes, once you get it going! I wish you luck with it!

Greg54js

Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:39:07 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:32:33 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:28:16 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:24:22 PM
Sorry about that guys, I had forgotten Animar was in the equation. Thought it was just a general "would this work" question. Scars is indeed right, protection will save Animar.
no worries :) we've got your back
And I'm glad! Been in Rules overload lately lol
So I've noticed.. are you an actual judge?
No, but I have been considering taking the tests to become one. I'll probably at least start in the near future. It'd be pretty cool to be official!
I've been trying to become a rules advisor but it's a lot harder than I realized.. I hope to accomplish it this summer with the help of some local judges
Well, I'll have to keep that in mind. Let me know how it goes, once you get it going! I wish you luck with it!
I certainly will! You'll have an easier time because you seem to have an intricate knowledge of the rules already

Keyeto

Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
I certainly will! You'll have an easier time because you seem to have an intricate knowledge of the rules already
Why thank you! It's been a bit of hard work, and really starts with knowing what to research. Once you do that enough, you just start to remember the rules, for convenience sake. Some of the trickier ones aren't so hard, once you figure out what rules to apply. I like it though, it's good to have a firm grasp on how the game works. You can use that knowledge to abuse the stack to your advantage against your opponents 😈

Greg54js

Quote from: Keyeto on March 20, 2013, 09:51:10 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on March 20, 2013, 09:41:08 PM
I certainly will! You'll have an easier time because you seem to have an intricate knowledge of the rules already
Why thank you! It's been a bit of hard work, and really starts with knowing what to research. Once you do that enough, you just start to remember the rules, for convenience sake. Some of the trickier ones aren't so hard, once you figure out what rules to apply. I like it though, it's good to have a firm grasp on how the game works. You can use that knowledge to abuse the stack to your advantage against your opponents 😈
So true