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BlackJester

Quote from: Dudecore on September 12, 2012, 01:20:59 AM
Well 2 junk mythics so far.

I don't like these high CMC cost cards as much as anyone else. That enchantment might see some EDH play, and perhaps limited (since you can pick) and is still better then {staff of nin} (which is a litmus test for bad cards :P
Shhh, don't tell Coffee Vampire. 😁

Coffee Vampire

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I hope your children are safe. Very safe.

Maximo

The angel is on par with {Mikaeus, The Lunarch} to me, but what's the other jank mythic?

Kaleo42

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on September 12, 2012, 01:36:25 AM
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I hope your children are safe. Very safe.

I hid my kids, i hid my wife, and i'mma gunna hide to cause i hear their rapin' everyone up in here!

ToSH

All of a sudden, Kaleo42 was surrounded by lolsroyces and roflcopters.

Kaleo42

Hahaha, i saw an open window and had to go for it.

On topic though, i like the izzet {genesis wave}, hello {temporal master} and {worldfire} and welcome to standard playability.

Gorzo

Am I the the only one who really likes angel of serenity? 5/6 flying + versatile triple {fiend hunter}/{disentomb}?  How is she terrible? It may not be AS ridiculous as some of the other mythics spoiled, but I would love to have her in some of my EDH decks.

Coffee Vampire

Well the thing is, she costs so much and can be easily removed. Why not just use tormod's crypt or day of judgement?

Kaleo42

Quote from: Coffee Vampire on September 12, 2012, 08:07:30 AM
Well the thing is, she costs so much and can be easily removed. Why not just use tormod's crypt or day of judgement?
Because {somberwald sage}, {cloudshift}, {ghostly flicker}, {restoration angel}, and of course {conjurers closet} are all going to be legal.

Coffee Vampire

Yeah there's no denying you can pull some cool stuff with her, but it is more efficient to just get rid of it all at right away with 1 card instead of casting her and flickering and stuff.

Gorzo

{tormods crypt}? Why would that be a replacement for the angel? Are you thinking of using her on your opponent's yard? That's not how I envision the angel being used at all. We're not thinking on the same wavelength at all :P

Here's what I see: I cast my 5/6 flyer and exile your big bomb threat. And my other two targets are my own big bombs in my own graveyard.  Oh you want to kill my huge threat angel and get your bomb back in your hand? Then get ready to deal with my 2 {sublime archangel}s AGAIN next turn, jerkwad. In the meantime, while you deal with that decision, take 5 damage in the air.

Dudecore

Every card has a weakness, her weakness is printed all over her. 1) Cost. 2) Return those creatures to hand. 3) When can you cast her to benefit from its effects? 4) How many do you include in a deck? 5) body doesn't match CMC.

"Good in EDH" doesn't cut it. I'm guilty of it saying it too, there hasn't been a card printed that someone wont say is "good" in EDH.

Kaleo42

Frites! She would be great in a {huntmaster of the fells} or {liliana of the veil} variant of an {unburial rites} deck. And the best part in my oppinion is that all o-ring rules apply, if you flicker her after she targets, it just becomes exile three creature in or off the field.

Gorzo

Quote from: Dudecore on September 12, 2012, 09:25:34 AM
Every card has a weakness, her weakness is printed all over her. 1) Cost. 2) Return those creatures to hand. 3) When can you cast her to benefit from its effects? 4) How many do you include in a deck? 5) body doesn't match CMC.

"Good in EDH" doesn't cut it. I'm guilty of it saying it too, there hasn't been a card printed that someone wont say is "good" in EDH.

I disagree with almost everything you just posted :P
1) sure, cost is high, I'll give you that one. Should be 1 less, maybe 2.
2) return to hand is not bad. Would you rather it return your enemies bomb to the bf? They have to pay costs again, including negative ETB effects. Would you have it reanimate your GY right to the field? Wayyyy overpowered. I think return to hand is right where it should be, a balance for the two options.
3) any time your opponent has stuff on the field to bounce or you have dead things to {revive}? Clear 3 blockers for a fatal swing even?
4) not 4 with its high cost but 2-of or 3-of are very possible, depending on the deck's ability to capitalize from her options.
5) 5/6 flying for 8 is only 1 more than {sphinx of Uthuun} and with a more versatile effect. Flyers are expensive, yo, and you gotta pay for the effect.

And if you think every card can be played in commander, you're playing commander wrong :P {merfolk of the pearl trident}? Must go in my EDH decks! All of them!

But hey, we are all entitled to our own opinions after all.

Maximo

Jester, come on, I know your combo wheels are spinning with that slick little {Faerie Imposter}..