Jeskai Heroic 60 cards, 0 sideboard 8 {Plains} 7 {Island} 7 {Mountain} 22 lands 3 {Favored Hoplite} 3 {Battlewise Hoplite} 3 {Archetype of Aggression} 2 {Hero of Iroas} 3 {Phalanx Leader} 3 {Fabled Hero} 17 creatures 2 {Boros Charm} 2 {Ajani's Presence} 3 {Aqueous Form} 2 {Hammer of Purphoros} 3 {Coordinated Assault} 3 {Ordeal of Heliod} 3 {Ordeal of Thassa} 3 {Gods Willing} 21 other spells Sideboard |
Quote from: griffin131 on April 26, 2015, 09:03:53 AMYeah, but almost all of the cards won't be standard legal soon. So I'm just calling it modern so people can suggest other modern cards that fit :)
I mean, technically it's Modern just like every Standard deck, but you're not using anything not Standard legal...
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMM8, if you can't afford 2-3 3 dollar cards you have no business playing modernQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMI was going to suggest fetches, but saying no to a $16 investment...Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
Quote from: griffin131 on April 26, 2015, 09:40:09 PMSince when are fetches budget?Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMI was going to suggest fetches, but saying no to a $16 investment...Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 10:09:54 PMQuote from: griffin131 on April 26, 2015, 09:40:09 PMSince when are fetches budget?Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMI was going to suggest fetches, but saying no to a $16 investment...Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
Quote from: Skullguy725 on April 26, 2015, 10:13:59 PMFair enough :)Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 10:09:54 PMQuote from: griffin131 on April 26, 2015, 09:40:09 PMSince when are fetches budget?Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMI was going to suggest fetches, but saying no to a $16 investment...Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
They're not budget, although, you can pick up the khans fetches for about 10 apiece
Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 10:52:19 PMI understand that, but in my opinion, I don't like {Hero of Iroas} enough to make it worth $4 to meQuote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
$3 is cheap. If you can't handle that then you can't play competitive magic in Modern. At least not with this style of deck. $3 is really reasonable.
Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 10:55:24 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 10:52:19 PMI understand that, but in my opinion, I don't like {Hero of Iroas} enough to make it worth $4 to meQuote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
$3 is cheap. If you can't handle that then you can't play competitive magic in Modern. At least not with this style of deck. $3 is really reasonable.
Quote from: Munchlax on April 26, 2015, 10:48:02 PMThe only spell that benefits from {Battlefield Thaumaturge} in this deck is {Ajani's Presence} :(. Every other instant or sorcery has no colorless in its mana cost
{Battlefield Thaumaturge} is this decks best friend. Also, don't play modern until you have a deck that will be able to go toe to toe with true competitive decks. It won't get you anything but sadness trust me I've tried
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 10:56:51 PMYou know, I think {Hero of Iroas} could replace my {Favored Hoplite}s very nicelyQuote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 10:55:24 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 10:52:19 PMI understand that, but in my opinion, I don't like {Hero of Iroas} enough to make it worth $4 to meQuote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
$3 is cheap. If you can't handle that then you can't play competitive magic in Modern. At least not with this style of deck. $3 is really reasonable.
It is key to Heroic in standard. It's how you get {Ordeal of Thassa} to draw you cards the turn you cast it. For {U}.
Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 10:09:54 PMThey're not. Which is why I didn't suggest them.Quote from: griffin131 on April 26, 2015, 09:40:09 PMSince when are fetches budget?Quote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMI was going to suggest fetches, but saying no to a $16 investment...Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
Quote from: Kaalia with haste on April 27, 2015, 07:56:24 AMThen what should I replace? I'm happy with the current decklist, but I would love to find room for a few {Favored Hoplite}
No no no no no never cut favored hoplite! It's THE BEST heroic creature hands down. I played heroic and standard (took apart to get ready for rotation) and believe me it's the best out of all of them.
Quote from: CbStrad on April 27, 2015, 01:15:09 PMYeah, I decided that I want to add a couple to this deckQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 10:56:51 PMThis. I used to not like him, until I used a deck that ran him. He's kinda like {Torrent Elemental} and {Yasova Dragonclaw}; doesn't look like much, but he beats faces when you start using himQuote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 10:55:24 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 10:52:19 PMI understand that, but in my opinion, I don't like {Hero of Iroas} enough to make it worth $4 to meQuote from: Drayton99 on April 26, 2015, 08:48:13 PMQuote from: LinkCelestrial on April 26, 2015, 06:11:50 PMBUDGET Jeskai Heroic
{Hero of Iroas} is a must.
$3 is cheap. If you can't handle that then you can't play competitive magic in Modern. At least not with this style of deck. $3 is really reasonable.
It is key to Heroic in standard. It's how you get {Ordeal of Thassa} to draw you cards the turn you cast it. For {U}.
Quote from: ConanEdo on April 28, 2015, 10:27:12 AMGods willing counters all of those doesn't it? If you give a creature protection from black for instance, then it can't be the target of {Slaughter Pact} so it saves it. Right?
Why are you not running Boggles? It's easy to build (minus the mana base, but no modern is going to have a cheap one) and you don't have to play cards like {God's Willing}. In modern people have bolts, {Abrupt Decay}, {Slaughter Pact}, and {Path to Exile}. There's way too much efficient removal to try and protect your dudes. Heroic works in standard because 3 damage starts at 2 mana, and outright killing starts at 3.
Quote from: Drayton99 on April 28, 2015, 03:11:54 PMRight, but it's inefficient because you have to use a card to protect. Boggles are cheap hexproof creatures so you don't have to waste a card for protectionQuote from: ConanEdo on April 28, 2015, 10:27:12 AMGods willing counters all of those doesn't it? If you give a creature protection from black for instance, then it can't be the target of {Slaughter Pact} so it saves it. Right?
Why are you not running Boggles? It's easy to build (minus the mana base, but no modern is going to have a cheap one) and you don't have to play cards like {God's Willing}. In modern people have bolts, {Abrupt Decay}, {Slaughter Pact}, and {Path to Exile}. There's way too much efficient removal to try and protect your dudes. Heroic works in standard because 3 damage starts at 2 mana, and outright killing starts at 3.
Quote from: ConanEdo on April 28, 2015, 04:13:29 PMQuote from: Spencer Addington on April 28, 2015, 03:47:57 PMNot only that, but you can tap out to play your enchantments on turns 2 and 3 without fear of getting blanked by Bolt or Abrupt Decay. Green also gives you access to Dryad Arbor to protect against Edict effects, something decks like this are vulnerable to.Quote from: Drayton99 on April 28, 2015, 03:11:54 PMRight, but it's inefficient because you have to use a card to protect. Boggles are cheap hexproof creatures so you don't have to waste a card for protectionQuote from: ConanEdo on April 28, 2015, 10:27:12 AMGods willing counters all of those doesn't it? If you give a creature protection from black for instance, then it can't be the target of {Slaughter Pact} so it saves it. Right?
Why are you not running Boggles? It's easy to build (minus the mana base, but no modern is going to have a cheap one) and you don't have to play cards like {God's Willing}. In modern people have bolts, {Abrupt Decay}, {Slaughter Pact}, and {Path to Exile}. There's way too much efficient removal to try and protect your dudes. Heroic works in standard because 3 damage starts at 2 mana, and outright killing starts at 3.
Quote from: MommaB on April 28, 2015, 09:19:05 PMIs it wrong to suggest a deck he might not know about that is in fact better? If I was running a deck and there was one that was very similar in playstyle and was proven better I would appreciate it.Quote from: ConanEdo on April 28, 2015, 04:13:29 PMQuote from: Spencer Addington on April 28, 2015, 03:47:57 PMNot only that, but you can tap out to play your enchantments on turns 2 and 3 without fear of getting blanked by Bolt or Abrupt Decay. Green also gives you access to Dryad Arbor to protect against Edict effects, something decks like this are vulnerable to.Quote from: Drayton99 on April 28, 2015, 03:11:54 PMRight, but it's inefficient because you have to use a card to protect. Boggles are cheap hexproof creatures so you don't have to waste a card for protectionQuote from: ConanEdo on April 28, 2015, 10:27:12 AMGods willing counters all of those doesn't it? If you give a creature protection from black for instance, then it can't be the target of {Slaughter Pact} so it saves it. Right?
Why are you not running Boggles? It's easy to build (minus the mana base, but no modern is going to have a cheap one) and you don't have to play cards like {God's Willing}. In modern people have bolts, {Abrupt Decay}, {Slaughter Pact}, and {Path to Exile}. There's way too much efficient removal to try and protect your dudes. Heroic works in standard because 3 damage starts at 2 mana, and outright killing starts at 3.
All true but isn't the point to help make the deck better and improve the thought of the deck and not say "just run this bc it's better"
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on April 28, 2015, 10:51:08 PM
The problem is some people's delivery comes across as rude. Intended or not.