just saw it announced on Twitter. I'm excited
http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/
New rules for mulligan
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/new-mulligan-rule-starting-battle-zendikar-prereleases-2015-08-20
Wotc announcement
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/announcing-battle-zendikar-2015-03-09
Full arts
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/battle-zendikar-your-first-look-2015-08-29#rteright
Enemy fetches????
Enemy fetches and ELDRAZI!!!!
Even though most of us new this was happening, it's still very exciting.
Quote from: Quisequise on March 06, 2015, 04:06:39 PM
Even though most of us new this was happening, it's still very exciting.
I figured it was gonna happen as well but awesome to see it actually Announced lol
Dragons vs Eldrazi!!!
I would like to point out that the Eldrazi probably won't be the eldrazi we know and love, MaRo has said Annihilator is very unlikely to return and if we got new Eldrazi they would be different cards.
This will also be the first of the 2 set block cycle won't it?
I doubt it'll be a better Emmy. Wizards isn't advocating printing more new stuff at the power levels of those cards. And let's be honest, none of us want annihilator in standard.
Quote from: Falcon182 on March 06, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
This will also be the first of the 2 set block cycle won't it?
Yes
Quote from: Taysby on March 06, 2015, 04:12:42 PM
So better Emmy?
Possibly. If Emmy is still a beast and doesn't have the shuffle clause, it could be better, especially in reanimator
With this being the first 2 block set.
So my speculations for battle for zendikar block include the following:
Enemy fetches
Eldrazi
Full art lands
4 planeswalkers -
Nissa
Ugin
Sorin
Nahiri
Quote from: Taysby on March 06, 2015, 04:25:30 PM
Emrakul the corrupted. 16
When you cast him {time walk}
Flying
Trample
Annihilator 6
Pro colored spells
Infect
Power and Toughness: 0/1
All you did was tack on infect and one extra mana.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:16:56 PM
And let's be honest, none of us want annihilator in standard.
I loved the Annihilator mechanic. I could see them bringing it back and building a new mechanic to counteract it. Idk what, but if it's supposed to be Eldrazi vs. whoever has beef with them now, it would reason that the Eld would be similar to how we remember them, and there will be better ways to defend against it. Maybe cards that can't be sacrificed, or enchantments that block sacrificing. Imagine being able to put down global "permanents can't be sacrificed" and watching sac heavy decks crumble
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 06, 2015, 05:13:24 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:16:56 PM
And let's be honest, none of us want annihilator in standard.
I loved the Annihilator mechanic. I could see them bringing it back and building a new mechanic to counteract it. Idk what, but if it's supposed to be Eldrazi vs. whoever has beef with them now, it would reason that the Eld would be similar to how we remember them, and there will be better ways to defend against it. Maybe cards that can't be sacrificed, or enchantments that block sacrificing. Imagine being able to put down global "permanents can't be sacrificed" and watching sac heavy decks crumble
I hate hate cards. {Leyline of Sanctity}. {Rest in Peace}. I don't like somebody dropping a card and then your deck doesn't work because of it. I don't like being on either side of that equation. That's part of the reason Modern is having issues. Too many decks that are just near impossible to beat without boarding in hate cards. Then it's no fun playing against them either way.
Doesn't stop Wizards from making it. I'd love to see Slivers vs Eldrazi, but I also love playing against Sliver decks, love to play against hate decks and live challenges. I think the only decks I hate are counter/control. But if magic was meant to be easy, everyone would play it
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 06, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Doesn't stop Wizards from making it. I'd love to see Slivers vs Eldrazi, but I also love playing against Sliver decks, love to play against hate decks and live challenges. I think the only decks I hate are counter/control. But if magic was meant to be easy, everyone would play it
You're right, but you said "imagine" so I gave you my two cents.
I like challenging games, there's nothing challenging about a game where the results are set in stone. My idea of a challenge is both decks have a chance of winning, and that's determined by actually playing the game instead of wether or not you can get {Leyline of Sanctity} out.
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 06, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
With this being the first 2 block set.
So my speculations for battle for zendikar block include the following:
Enemy fetches
Eldrazi
Full art lands
4 planeswalkers -
Nissa
Ugin
Sorin
Nahiri
A pic shows Gideon So he'll be there!
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 06, 2015, 06:06:16 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 06, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
With this being the first 2 block set.
So my speculations for battle for zendikar block include the following:
Enemy fetches
Eldrazi
Full art lands
4 planeswalkers -
Nissa
Ugin
Sorin
Nahiri
A pic shows Gideon So he'll be there!
Is said pic a promo for Origins though?
Nope.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/content/battle-zendikar-card-set-archive-products-game-info
Make sure you look at pic in landscape mode! Shows eldrazi!
Just remember. The Eldrazi Titans we "see" are actually just shadows or projections of themselves...
If they were to ever truly manifest on a plane, I think that the plane itself would crumble...
I am on the tectonic edge of my seat!
I am so stoked!
Does this have a release date?
Quote from: particle on March 06, 2015, 08:14:44 PM
Does this have a release date?
Re-read the name of the post... Lol! ;)
Quote from: Taysby on March 06, 2015, 07:27:16 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 04:47:55 PM
Quote from: Taysby on March 06, 2015, 04:25:30 PM
Emrakul the corrupted. 16
When you cast him {time walk}
Flying
Trample
Annihilator 6
Pro colored spells
Infect
Power and Toughness: 0/1
All you did was tack on infect and one extra mana.
{darksteel colossus}
{blightsteel colossus}
So you're saying your idea wasn't even original? ;)
We all know Wizards isn't bring back infect anytime soon.
Quote from: Taysby on March 06, 2015, 09:54:35 PM
Maybe... ;)
No wait. You're the one that came up with it originally!
I didn't read the 1st 2 pages so idk if anyone else brought this up but ...
Why would we get enemy fetches on BoZ? That means fetches in 2 different blocks ... Idk that seems very odd to me
Eldrazi Planeswalker!
I'll show myself out.......
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on March 06, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
Eldrazi Planeswalker!
I'll show myself out.......
No stay. I can get behind that.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 11:27:31 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on March 06, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
Eldrazi Planeswalker!
I'll show myself out.......
No stay. I can get behind that.
I don't think that's possible considering the Eldrazi already go from Plane to Plane killing everything and leaving they're all already planeswalkers. Just not in the sense you're referring to
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Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 06, 2015, 11:27:31 PM
Quote from: Phoenix X30 on March 06, 2015, 11:12:11 PM
Eldrazi Planeswalker!
I'll show myself out.......
No stay. I can get behind that.
I don't think that's possible considering the Eldrazi already go from Plane to Plane killing everything and leaving they're all already planeswalkers. Just not in the sense you're referring to
Emmrakul the "some flashy follow up name"
10 drop
15 loyalty
+2 exile 7 cards off target players deck and exile 1 permanent
-3 exile chosen card from your deck
-20 restart the game with all cards exiled with Emrakul Under your control
Eldrazi planeswalker guy (20)
+1 wipe the board of all permanents other than eldrazi pw
0 draw 5 cards
-4 put 5 permanents from your hand Into play
-15, target opponent forfeits their deck. This is now totally legal.
We're totally making Un-set walkers aren't we.
Curious how this will effect the price of zen boxes.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 07, 2015, 11:47:41 AM
not to be a Debbie downer, bUT just because they said that were going back to zendikar doesnt mean that they've confirmed Zendikar fetches...
Exactly what I've been saying!!! It'd be so weird if we had 2 blocks in a row with fetches!
They are aiming to make more profit this year than ever.
It will have fetches and vengevine
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 07, 2015, 02:29:40 PM
They are aiming to make more profit this year than ever.
It will have fetches and vengevine
A {Spell Pierce} reprint would be nice too.
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I'm guessing this confirms Gideon, but those don't look like the Big Three...
Yeah. I said that on page 2. 😜
New Eldrazi? Yay!
The middle one looks like {Ulamog the Infinite Gyre} with his minions surrounding him
So is it possible in the first set they kill Ulamog (if its him), then Emmy and Kozzy return from wherever they are? Then JTMS appears and takes them all on lol?
Anyone think Kiora will be there?
I can see Kiora in here bc it's her home plane but who knows at this point.
I think there's a solid chance she will be in it. Either way, I'm PUMPED :D
I am so down for another cycle of kiora :)
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 07, 2015, 05:52:17 PM
I am so down for another cycle of kiora :)
Ditto. But it seems like they're setting this up to have way too many walkers...maybe they'll break the rules and there'll be more than 4?
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 07, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on March 07, 2015, 05:52:17 PM
I am so down for another cycle of kiora :)
Ditto. But it seems like they're setting this up to have way too many walkers...maybe they'll break the rules and there'll be more than 4?
Problem with that is its the first two set block
Default is 10 walkers a year.
Might be more more this year..
Figure "year" starts when dragons comes out. When bfz comes out in October Theros will rotate out. Then when the next block comes out in April 2016 khans/fate will rotate out.
Dragons has 2, origins has 5.. That's 7 before bfz comes out. So at least 3 in bfz
Or Since m15 was 5, Khans 2, fate 1, dragons 2. they will start year off with Origins (5)
But then again origins will rotate out with dragons.
So maybe they start BFZ out as the year. Such a pita!
Need common walkers
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 07, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
Default is 10 walkers a year.
Might be more more this year..
Figure "year" starts when dragons comes out. When bfz comes out in October Theros will rotate out. Then when the next block comes out in April 2016 khans/fate will rotate out.
Dragons has 2, origins has 5.. That's 7 before bfz comes out. So at least 3 in bfz
Or Since m15 was 5, Khans 2, fate 1, dragons 2. they will start year off with Origins (5)
But then again origins will rotate out with dragons.
So maybe they start BFZ out as the year. Such a pita!
Mark has said going forward that each block is going to have a baseline of 5 walkers, so that is what I would expect for BFZ. I think they have always started the "year" as the fall set, because that is how they rotate.
Yeah... He was asked today on tumblr about going to the 2 set blocks how many plants walkers and is response was default is 10 a year.
So that would be 5 block.
brb, selling stuffs from my backyard
I kind a have a feeling we won't see the eldrazi.
More like a group that wants to bring them back and a group trying to stop that.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on March 07, 2015, 03:02:18 PM
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I'm guessing this confirms Gideon, but those don't look like the Big Three...
New three?
I take back what I said
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I'm guessing this confirms Gideon, but those don't look like the Big Three...
New three?
They're kinda ugly...
List of walkers involved or could be involved
{kiora,}
{Gideon,}
{nissa,}
{sorin,}
{jace,}
{chandra,}
{ugin,}
{nahiri,}
So yeah lots to choose from, did I miss any?
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 09, 2015, 04:31:49 PM
List of walkers involved or could be involved
{kiora,}
{Gideon,}
{nissa,}
{sorin,}
{jace,}
{chandra,}
{ugin,}
{nahiri,}
So yeah lots to choose from, did I miss any?
Did Gideon talk to Ral?
Also Dack's been on every plane at some point or another
Man, I really hope they bring Ugin back for this set...I think it would be pretty neat if they did.
Sarkhan was involved with this plane, though I highly doubt they'd bring him back.
I mean ugin is back, and ima guess he's going to communicate with sorin on this at some point, is nahiri alive, anyone know?
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on March 09, 2015, 05:23:30 PM
I mean ugin is back, and ima guess he's going to communicate with sorin on this at some point, is nahiri alive, anyone know?
Already has communicated with sorin I think
(http://i.imgur.com/lK561eH.png)
Is that not him in the foreground?
It totally is, so yeah nahiri is all we need confirmation on
Yeah most likely we will get 2 ugins this cycle seeing the specificity of that card not referring to ugin spirit dragon, just ugin pw
I'm hoping for another Nahiri card, let alone a confirmation this time. I love the C14 PW.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 10, 2015, 07:51:20 PM
I hope they do another Phyrexian vs. mirrodin thing...
Is {Koth of the Hammer} still alive?
{Darksteel Plate}?
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 12:59:19 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 10, 2015, 07:51:20 PM
I hope they do another Phyrexian vs. mirrodin thing...
Is {Koth of the Hammer} still alive?
{Darksteel Plate}?
"Koth escaped alive into the bowels of the furnace layers. He hopes that the Mirran resistance can one day overthrow the Phyrexians."
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 11, 2015, 10:50:21 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 11, 2015, 12:59:19 AM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on March 10, 2015, 07:51:20 PM
I hope they do another Phyrexian vs. mirrodin thing...
Is {Koth of the Hammer} still alive?
{Darksteel Plate}?
"Koth escaped alive into the bowels of the furnace layers. He hopes that the Mirran resistance can one day overthrow the Phyrexians."
Okay awesome. Thanks. I'd like to see him again.
#bringbackmirrodin
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on March 11, 2015, 01:42:23 PM
#bringbackmirrodin
#bringbacknewphyrexiasothatmirrodincanbereborn
I'm assuming nahiri will be in bfz. A lot of the Kor creature were in the last set so it would fit very well. How about the saprolings? 0/1 tap sac for a colorless mana. Will they come back? I have a feeling there will be a very limited amount of eldrazi but I do think atleast 1 of the big 3 will make an appearance. Possibly as a planeswalker.
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on March 17, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
I'm assuming nahiri will be in bfz. A lot of the Kor creature were in the last set so it would fit very well. How about the saprolings? 0/1 tap sac for a colorless mana. Will they come back? I have a feeling there will be a very limited amount of eldrazi but I do think atleast 1 of the big 3 will make an appearance. Possibly as a planeswalker.
*Eldrazi spawn. Not Saprolings.
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on March 17, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
I'm assuming nahiri will be in bfz. A lot of the Kor creature were in the last set so it would fit very well. How about the saprolings? 0/1 tap sac for a colorless mana. Will they come back? I have a feeling there will be a very limited amount of eldrazi but I do think atleast 1 of the big 3 will make an appearance. Possibly as a planeswalker.
You're thinking of the eldrazi spawn, such as seen in {Skittering Invasion}. I feel that will either be in BFZ or MM2.
Also, welcome back.
Thanks. Eldrazi spawn is what I was thinking. Was driving and texting :P which I don't condone.
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on March 17, 2015, 08:28:38 PM
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on March 17, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
I'm assuming nahiri will be in bfz. A lot of the Kor creature were in the last set so it would fit very well. How about the saprolings? 0/1 tap sac for a colorless mana. Will they come back? I have a feeling there will be a very limited amount of eldrazi but I do think atleast 1 of the big 3 will make an appearance. Possibly as a planeswalker.
You're thinking of the eldrazi spawn, such as seen in {Skittering Invasion}. I feel that will either be in BFZ or MM2.
Also, welcome back.
Beat you to it ;)
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Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on March 17, 2015, 08:28:38 PM
Quote from: Vampyvyrus on March 17, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
I'm assuming nahiri will be in bfz. A lot of the Kor creature were in the last set so it would fit very well. How about the saprolings? 0/1 tap sac for a colorless mana. Will they come back? I have a feeling there will be a very limited amount of eldrazi but I do think atleast 1 of the big 3 will make an appearance. Possibly as a planeswalker.
You're thinking of the eldrazi spawn, such as seen in {Skittering Invasion}. I feel that will either be in BFZ or MM2.
Also, welcome back.
Beat you to it ;)
:P
Eldrazi planeswalker, scary ass concept lol
Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, scary ass concept lol
I don't think the Eldrazi can hold a spark (similar to the Phyrexians). Not to mention there is almost no need for a spark because they kind of just bash through the Blind Eternities anyways.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 17, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
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THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
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Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
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THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
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Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
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THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
EDUCATION ACQUIRED. However that's essentially the same thing so there's no way there's going to be an eldrazi PW because that's redundant
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Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
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THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
EDUCATION ACQUIRED. However that's essentially the same thing so there's no way there's going to be an eldrazi PW because that's redundant
Yeah, pretty much. Here is what Doug said on his blog about the topic: http://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt17vx4zF The important take away is that we can't get an Eldrazi planeswalker card.
The Eldrazi do traverse the Blind Eternities and they are able to move from plane to plane. In a nit-picky technical sense I wouldn't use the term "planeswalkers" for them, though, as I don't think that they have "sparks," and I don't think they possess sentience in the way we think of it. They don't grow up with unignited sparks and eventually gain the power to planeswalk, and all that.
It's kind of like, a car is a vehicle that can move from place to place, and so is an airplane. So is an airplane basically a car? I mean, if you really squint and get in a metaphorical mood, then kind of? But the real answer is no, not really—it's another kind of thing that can accomplish a similar task. The Eldrazi aren't a subset of the set of all planeswalkers. Planeswalkers and the Eldrazi are both members of the set of all things that can travel from one plane to another.
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Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
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THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
EDUCATION ACQUIRED. However that's essentially the same thing so there's no way there's going to be an eldrazi PW because that's redundant
Yeah, pretty much. Here is what Doug said on his blog about the topic: http://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt17vx4zF The important take away is that we can't get an Eldrazi planeswalker card.
The Eldrazi do traverse the Blind Eternities and they are able to move from plane to plane. In a nit-picky technical sense I wouldn't use the term "planeswalkers" for them, though, as I don't think that they have "sparks," and I don't think they possess sentience in the way we think of it. They don't grow up with unignited sparks and eventually gain the power to planeswalk, and all that.
It's kind of like, a car is a vehicle that can move from place to place, and so is an airplane. So is an airplane basically a car? I mean, if you really squint and get in a metaphorical mood, then kind of? But the real answer is no, not really—it's another kind of thing that can accomplish a similar task. The Eldrazi aren't a subset of the set of all planeswalkers. Planeswalkers and the Eldrazi are both members of the set of all things that can travel from one plane to another.
Yeah. You're completely right. But a lot of other people that are saying this the only way to get through to them is calling them almost walkers
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Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
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THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
EDUCATION ACQUIRED. However that's essentially the same thing so there's no way there's going to be an eldrazi PW because that's redundant
Yeah, pretty much. Here is what Doug said on his blog about the topic: http://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt17vx4zF The important take away is that we can't get an Eldrazi planeswalker card.
The Eldrazi do traverse the Blind Eternities and they are able to move from plane to plane. In a nit-picky technical sense I wouldn't use the term "planeswalkers" for them, though, as I don't think that they have "sparks," and I don't think they possess sentience in the way we think of it. They don't grow up with unignited sparks and eventually gain the power to planeswalk, and all that.
It's kind of like, a car is a vehicle that can move from place to place, and so is an airplane. So is an airplane basically a car? I mean, if you really squint and get in a metaphorical mood, then kind of? But the real answer is no, not really—it's another kind of thing that can accomplish a similar task. The Eldrazi aren't a subset of the set of all planeswalkers. Planeswalkers and the Eldrazi are both members of the set of all things that can travel from one plane to another.
The Eldrazi Titans also technically don't manifest on the plane. Only their shadow and their underlings do. What we represented in the cards {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} {Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre} and {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth} are just their shadows, projections of their power.
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Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
Fix'd.
THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
EDUCATION ACQUIRED. However that's essentially the same thing so there's no way there's going to be an eldrazi PW because that's redundant
Yeah, pretty much. Here is what Doug said on his blog about the topic: http://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt17vx4zF The important take away is that we can't get an Eldrazi planeswalker card.
The Eldrazi do traverse the Blind Eternities and they are able to move from plane to plane. In a nit-picky technical sense I wouldn't use the term "planeswalkers" for them, though, as I don't think that they have "sparks," and I don't think they possess sentience in the way we think of it. They don't grow up with unignited sparks and eventually gain the power to planeswalk, and all that.
It's kind of like, a car is a vehicle that can move from place to place, and so is an airplane. So is an airplane basically a car? I mean, if you really squint and get in a metaphorical mood, then kind of? But the real answer is no, not really—it's another kind of thing that can accomplish a similar task. The Eldrazi aren't a subset of the set of all planeswalkers. Planeswalkers and the Eldrazi are both members of the set of all things that can travel from one plane to another.
The Eldrazi Titans also technically don't manifest on the plane. Only their shadow and their underlings do. What we represented in the cards {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} {Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre} and {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth} are just their shadows, projections of their power.
Imagine we actually would get to play with their Blind Eternity self, influencing the plane (game) with their powers. Much like the pw we have now, but subtly different. As I'm thinking about it it would be hard to balance though... They are not on the plane like the pw, so how do you influence them? Would need some epic power. And the only zone in existence which could harbor them would be the command zone. Which would cause cards to influence that zone, which we DON'T want. Maybe it could be a new subgame of commander, where your commander uses abilities from the zone, while only casting shadows on the b/f. Kinda like your role in Vampire: the card game, if anyone knows that one.
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Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
Fix'd.
THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
EDUCATION ACQUIRED. However that's essentially the same thing so there's no way there's going to be an eldrazi PW because that's redundant
Yeah, pretty much. Here is what Doug said on his blog about the topic: http://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt17vx4zF The important take away is that we can't get an Eldrazi planeswalker card.
The Eldrazi do traverse the Blind Eternities and they are able to move from plane to plane. In a nit-picky technical sense I wouldn't use the term "planeswalkers" for them, though, as I don't think that they have "sparks," and I don't think they possess sentience in the way we think of it. They don't grow up with unignited sparks and eventually gain the power to planeswalk, and all that.
It's kind of like, a car is a vehicle that can move from place to place, and so is an airplane. So is an airplane basically a car? I mean, if you really squint and get in a metaphorical mood, then kind of? But the real answer is no, not really—it's another kind of thing that can accomplish a similar task. The Eldrazi aren't a subset of the set of all planeswalkers. Planeswalkers and the Eldrazi are both members of the set of all things that can travel from one plane to another.
The Eldrazi Titans also technically don't manifest on the plane. Only their shadow and their underlings do. What we represented in the cards {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} {Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre} and {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth} are just their shadows, projections of their power.
Kind of like Nicol Bolas after the cataclysm
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Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 17, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
Quote from: Distriimuir on March 17, 2015, 09:56:33 PM
Eldrazi planeswalker, badass concept lol
Fix'd.
THEYRE ALL PLANESWALKERS READ THEIR FRICKEN LORE IVE HEARD THIS LIKE NINE TIMES IN THE PAST THREE DAYS AND AS SOMEONE WHO READ THE LORE THIS MAKES ME DISTRESSED THAT NO ONE ELSE SEEMS TO HAVE READ IT GET SOME EDUCATION
Except they're not. They are born of the Blind Eternities and can therefore travel through them, devouring mana from various planes. GET SOME EDUCATION.
EDUCATION ACQUIRED. However that's essentially the same thing so there's no way there's going to be an eldrazi PW because that's redundant
Yeah, pretty much. Here is what Doug said on his blog about the topic: http://tmblr.co/ZUrCEt17vx4zF The important take away is that we can't get an Eldrazi planeswalker card.
The Eldrazi do traverse the Blind Eternities and they are able to move from plane to plane. In a nit-picky technical sense I wouldn't use the term "planeswalkers" for them, though, as I don't think that they have "sparks," and I don't think they possess sentience in the way we think of it. They don't grow up with unignited sparks and eventually gain the power to planeswalk, and all that.
It's kind of like, a car is a vehicle that can move from place to place, and so is an airplane. So is an airplane basically a car? I mean, if you really squint and get in a metaphorical mood, then kind of? But the real answer is no, not really—it's another kind of thing that can accomplish a similar task. The Eldrazi aren't a subset of the set of all planeswalkers. Planeswalkers and the Eldrazi are both members of the set of all things that can travel from one plane to another.
The Eldrazi Titans also technically don't manifest on the plane. Only their shadow and their underlings do. What we represented in the cards {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn} {Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre} and {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth} are just their shadows, projections of their power.
You give me real eldrazi. I make good deck. Deal?
I don't think it's the lack of real eldrazi that keeps you from making a good deck. 😝😝😝😝😝😝
Gogo quotes """""""""""""""""""
Are they the book smart ones?
Quote from: Taysby on March 18, 2015, 01:05:42 PM
But can you imagine tron with read eladrazi's? 😍
😈😈😈
They are mana drainers right?
How about an ability that whenever an opponent taps a land for mana, you add that mana to your pool, your pool does not empty during phases AND the land doesn't untap to account for the leeching??
Kinda uber {Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 18, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
They are mana drainers right?
How about an ability that whenever an opponent taps a land for mana, you add that mana to your pool, your pool does not empty during phases AND the land doesn't untap to account for the leeching??
Kinda uber {Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
Vorinclex is already uber. We done need more effects like his.
Quote from: particle on March 18, 2015, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 18, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
They are mana drainers right?
How about an ability that whenever an opponent taps a land for mana, you add that mana to your pool, your pool does not empty during phases AND the land doesn't untap to account for the leeching??
Kinda uber {Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
Vorinclex is already uber. We done need more effects like his.
I think we need more.
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 18, 2015, 05:01:35 PM
Quote from: particle on March 18, 2015, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 18, 2015, 03:04:51 PM
They are mana drainers right?
How about an ability that whenever an opponent taps a land for mana, you add that mana to your pool, your pool does not empty during phases AND the land doesn't untap to account for the leeching??
Kinda uber {Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger}
Vorinclex is already uber. We done need more effects like his.
I think we need more.
That's a card that screams not fun to play against. Not interested.
I love a challenge
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 18, 2015, 07:12:53 PM
I love a challenge
There's a line between challenge and slaughter. It usually coincides with fun and not fun.
I find unconquerable odds fun. Idk I'm weird.
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 18, 2015, 07:22:00 PM
I find unconquerable odds fun. Idk I'm weird.
To each their own.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 18, 2015, 07:23:22 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 18, 2015, 07:22:00 PM
I find unconquerable odds fun. Idk I'm weird.
To each their own.
Kinda like when you've beaten someone when they've amassed a google of life (that's a real number, go educate yourself) because they've forgotten about other win-cons
Just so you know that Google is a search engine. Googol is a number which is a 1 followed by 100 zeroes. Educate yourself.
Quote from: Rpbarber on March 18, 2015, 11:48:58 PM
Just so you know that Google is a search engine. Googol is a number which is a 1 followed by 100 zeroes. Educate yourself.
GET SOME EDUCATION M80!!!
Quote from: Rpbarber on March 18, 2015, 11:48:58 PM
Just so you know that Google is a search engine. Googol is a number which is a 1 followed by 100 zeroes. Educate yourself.
Homonym, homophone... Easy mistake 10^100 search engine lol
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
Fun fact: Google was named after googol
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 19, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
And commander damage, infect...
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Quote from: Kaylesh on March 19, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
And commander damage, infect...
{Mycoloth} with 250 Saprolings devoured and {doubling season} on the field, along with {Kresh the Blood Braided}
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 19, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
{Biorhythm}
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 19, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 19, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 19, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
And commander damage, infect...
{Mycoloth} with 250 Saprolings devoured and {doubling season} on the field, along with {Kresh the Blood Braided}
Make sure to flicker Myco each turn!
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 20, 2015, 03:28:42 AM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 19, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 19, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 19, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
And commander damage, infect...
{Mycoloth} with 250 Saprolings devoured and {doubling season} on the field, along with {Kresh the Blood Braided}
Make sure to flicker Myco each turn!
If your in Jund colors already might as well use {thromok, the insatiable} instead of mycoloth for exponential counters.
Quote from: particle on March 20, 2015, 09:46:09 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 20, 2015, 03:28:42 AM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 19, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 19, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 19, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
And commander damage, infect...
{Mycoloth} with 250 Saprolings devoured and {doubling season} on the field, along with {Kresh the Blood Braided}
Make sure to flicker Myco each turn!
If your in Jund colors already might as well use {thromok, the insatiable} instead of mycoloth for exponential counters.
The main point of Myco is that he devours a ton of Saps, gets really big, and then drops floods of saps on my upkeeps. They feed my {Deathspore thallid}'s ability too.
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 20, 2015, 10:08:27 AM
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Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 19, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on March 19, 2015, 03:09:23 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 19, 2015, 10:33:21 AM
How would one get down someone with Googol life to naught without decking themselves or infinite combos??
O wait: {elixir of immortality}
And commander damage, infect...
{Mycoloth} with 250 Saprolings devoured and {doubling season} on the field, along with {Kresh the Blood Braided}
Make sure to flicker Myco each turn!
If your in Jund colors already might as well use {thromok, the insatiable} instead of mycoloth for exponential counters.
The main point of Myco is that he devours a ton of Saps, gets really big, and then drops floods of saps on my upkeeps. They feed my {Deathspore thallid}'s ability too.
And if you flicker him, he can eat his own Saprolings again, doubling the +1/+1 counters each turn.
Unstickied?
Quote from: Taysby on March 20, 2015, 04:21:24 PM
Because screw zendikar, that's why. ;)
Without Zendikar your Tron deck wouldn't exist.
So since they are reprinting the Eldrazi gods in MM2 would it be a good assumption that they won't show up in this set?
Quote from: Munchlax on May 06, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
So since they are reprinting the Eldrazi gods in MM2 would it be a good assumption that they won't show up in this set?
Or maybe a different version of them, or a set of different maybe more powerful eldrazi?
Quote from: Ace on May 06, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 06, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
So since they are reprinting the Eldrazi gods in MM2 would it be a good assumption that they won't show up in this set?
Or maybe a different version of them, or a set of different maybe more powerful eldrazi?
Maybe, as for the first question, MaRo said on Blogatog that if they redid the Eldrazi they likely wouldn't have Anihilator because it is hard to develop and is hard to incorporate beyond 8+ drops
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 06, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
Quote from: Ace on May 06, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 06, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
So since they are reprinting the Eldrazi gods in MM2 would it be a good assumption that they won't show up in this set?
Or maybe a different version of them, or a set of different maybe more powerful eldrazi?
Maybe, as for the first question, MaRo said on Blogatog that if they redid the Eldrazi they likely wouldn't have Anihilator because it is hard to develop and is hard to incorporate beyond 8+ drops
this
they pretty much confirmed annihilator will not be coming back
Quote from: Ace on May 06, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 06, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
So since they are reprinting the Eldrazi gods in MM2 would it be a good assumption that they won't show up in this set?
Or maybe a different version of them, or a set of different maybe more powerful eldrazi?
Maybe Eldrazi Plainswalkers
Quote from: LinkToThePast on May 09, 2015, 06:57:08 PM
Quote from: Ace on May 06, 2015, 04:41:00 PM
Quote from: Munchlax on May 06, 2015, 04:39:29 PM
So since they are reprinting the Eldrazi gods in MM2 would it be a good assumption that they won't show up in this set?
Or maybe a different version of them, or a set of different maybe more powerful eldrazi?
Maybe Eldrazi Plainswalkers
The lore will have to change...
Inquisition of kozilek reprint maybe?
Quote from: Mason2311 on June 11, 2015, 01:45:50 AM
Inquisition of kozilek reprint maybe?
I sure hope so
I do too and sorry for no spoiler lol
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 06, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Doesn't stop Wizards from making it. I'd love to see Slivers vs Eldrazi, but I also love playing against Sliver decks, love to play against hate decks and live challenges. I think the only decks I hate are counter/control. But if magic was meant to be easy, everyone would play it
I would LOVE to see Slivers vs. Eldrazi 😈
Quote from: The Keeper on June 23, 2015, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 06, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Doesn't stop Wizards from making it. I'd love to see Slivers vs Eldrazi, but I also love playing against Sliver decks, love to play against hate decks and live challenges. I think the only decks I hate are counter/control. But if magic was meant to be easy, everyone would play it
I would LOVE to see Slivers vs. Eldrazi 😈
I'll put all my money down on Eldrazi.
Quote from: Noblellama on June 23, 2015, 02:02:37 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 23, 2015, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: The Keeper on June 23, 2015, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 06, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Doesn't stop Wizards from making it. I'd love to see Slivers vs Eldrazi, but I also love playing against Sliver decks, love to play against hate decks and live challenges. I think the only decks I hate are counter/control. But if magic was meant to be easy, everyone would play it
I would LOVE to see Slivers vs. Eldrazi 😈
I'll put all my money down on Eldrazi.
Well it aint like were "Battle for Zendikar"ing against Bronze Sables, they already own Tarkir and M15 so they settled those two planes...
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 23, 2015, 01:43:01 PM
Quote from: The Keeper on June 23, 2015, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 06, 2015, 05:56:36 PM
Doesn't stop Wizards from making it. I'd love to see Slivers vs Eldrazi, but I also love playing against Sliver decks, love to play against hate decks and live challenges. I think the only decks I hate are counter/control. But if magic was meant to be easy, everyone would play it
I would LOVE to see Slivers vs. Eldrazi 😈
I'll put all my money down on Eldrazi.
I never saw quite how powerful Eldrazi can be. I only had 1 card and that was Ulamog's crusher. However, I've been playing Slivers since I first learned MTG so I really think Slivers would win. It would be long and arduous though.
As far as storyline is concerned Eldrazi would win hands down. As far as cards are concerned Eldrazi would win. {Emmrakul the Aoens Torn} gets through {Sliver Hivelord} quite nicely.
However decks are a different story. If you counted just in flavour cards for each deck Eldrazi would be much too slow. However Tron is a Modern deck that places in tournaments quite often. Haven't seen a sliver deck do so.
Gotta say if they bring back a variation of or annihilator ... then I think it would be an awesome thing if they made a way for the sac to be reversed like spell say
{1}{W}{U}
Instant
The next time you are forced to sac by an opponent, that opponent sacs instead
Quote from: MommaB on June 25, 2015, 04:53:55 PM
Gotta say if they bring back a variation of or annihilator ... then I think it would be an awesome thing if they made a way for the sac to be reversed like spell say
{1}{W}{U}
Instant
The next time you are forced to sac by an opponent, that opponent sacs instead
If this didn't say draw a card on it or something and actually cost 3 it would be so bad.
I meant a variation of the idea the may fit into all the colors bc WotC does like to throw weird cards in just for draft purposes and if the eldrazi do end up with an annihilator like ability, then they'll most likely throw in some odd cards only useful in draft purposes... It's just the way they are lol
Didn't MaRo say way back that annihilator is like 9 on the Storm Scale? I don't think they're reprinting Annihilator in BfZ, unless they just reprint the big titans but they just did that in MM15 so I doubt it
Quote from: Taysby on June 26, 2015, 01:45:00 PM
They said they are not reprinting annihilator.
This.
What if bfz had no fetches and no favorite reprints from z.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 27, 2015, 12:48:42 PM
What if bfz had no fetches and no favorite reprints from z.
So many sad faces...
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 27, 2015, 12:48:42 PM
What if bfz had no fetches and no favorite reprints from z.
I have a feeling that the fetches will be reprinted since they are bringing back these painlands in Origins...who knows though.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 27, 2015, 12:48:42 PM
What if bfz had no fetches and no favorite reprints from z.
What if sad.
May I point out that there are goblins on Zendikar so goblin RDW Standard is going to be a deck
Quote from: Munchlax on June 27, 2015, 08:02:52 PM
May I point out that there are goblins on Zendikar so goblin RDW Standard is going to be a deck
{goblin Rabblemaster} reprint!
If they reprint rabble master
WOTC really wants you to play mono red
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on June 28, 2015, 12:59:28 PM
If they reprint rabble master
WOTC really wants you to play mono red
Lol this!
I feel like Khans BfZ Standard will be like the old dual deck Gobos vs. Elves! Lol
Yes
There would be SO much rage if they weren't reprinted
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 04, 2015, 01:01:35 PM
I had a dream last night that the zendikar lands in this next set are a cycle of enemy colored storage lands....
All day I've been thinking about it and it may actually make sense. Zendikar gave us enemy fetches which was a first, makes sense to think they'd give us enemy storage, which have never existed before.
Please dont be.
It's funny, I was just thinking we will get the full arts because that's an expectation and along with the name is only thing needed to sell BFZ. And I too think it will be a new land cycle, I really want enemy manlands :( BW specifically.
If you look back Wotc waited until the blue ON fetches hit 80-100 and I think they see the Kahns reprint buying them some time & dropping the zen prices short term. Maybe 1 or 2 blacks after BFZ to keep sales high.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 05, 2015, 02:40:26 PM
Yeah I agree with you. It is highly unlikely that zendikar will have the fetches directly after Khans. Just because Return to ravnica had the shock lands I don't believe they're going to continuously print the cards that were previously famous. Everybody is hoping for like Vengevine or bloodghast reprints but realistically they won't do that. It'd be sets like MM2015 that would have Noble Hierarchs, not Return to Alara. Manlands I'd say are a definite. No doubt in my mind about that...
Incoming: unplayable UR and BG manland :P
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 05, 2015, 04:28:21 PM
Green black will be
Entered tapped
taps for G or B
{GB} becomes a 1/4 free And black ooze with deathtouch. If it kills, place a +1/+1 counter
Gotta remember we there is that giant bog. Grul Draz or whatever the name is
Black White
Gonna turn into a spirit that has p/t equal to creatures in your graveyard
Red blue
elemental? That gets bigger when you cast instant or sorcery
Green Blue
NO IDEA WHATSOEVER
WHite red
becomes a soldier/etc
when it deals damage, put a 1/1 soldier token
Green blue
Kraken or mutant
Deals damage draws cards equal
That sounds right lol
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 08, 2015, 09:50:18 AM
That sounds a bit over powered haha
maybe if it was a 1/1 or 2/2. I imagine it being a kraken or some other large aquatic figure.
Yea true but they would attach a high activation cost to it and bam instant bummer hahaha
I had a dream they were full art shocks, not fetches and they were in like ktk fetches.
Quote from: Falcon182 on March 06, 2015, 04:13:23 PM
This will also be the first of the 2 set block cycle won't it?
Yes it will
I think it's likely that we will see Zendi fetches in BFZ BLOCK, but in the second set (not Battle for Zendikar itself). WotC doesn't really like fetches in standard due to the amount of mana fixing it provides combined with the amount of shuffling it causes. Due to that, they probably want to keep all 10 fetches in Standard together for as little time as possible, which means it'd be likely to see them in the /second/ set. If there's any place to reprint these lands, it's in this block, and if they're in the second set, ten-fetch standard will only exist for three months.
Standard: the format that just sucks compared to the rest
Overhearing that Maro wants no more t1 mana dork in standard is sad
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 21, 2015, 01:52:31 PM
Standard: the format that just sucks compared to the rest
Overhearing that Maro wants no more t1 mana dork in standard is sad
He what?
He's encouraged development to not have turn 1 mana dorks in standard
Because?
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/106100196288/why-are-recent-manadorks-more-than-1-cmc-the-only
L2Google&read dammit
Doesn't feel that detrimental though...oh well.
Wait.., no more elvish mystic? ;(
Sp...when do spoilers start up?
Not for a while, but we did get a spoiler yesterday.
https://twitter.com/MTGGoldfish/status/624382637579325440/photo/1
The fakeness
Still, like the art. Like DTK art better, but it really trumps the "default" {evolving wilds}
Quote from: Remillo on July 24, 2015, 12:31:44 PM
Not for a while, but we did get a spoiler yesterday.
https://twitter.com/MTGGoldfish/status/624382637579325440/photo/1
Fetchlands confirmed!!?!?!?!?! 😱
So if we get landfall again, or a similar mechanic, does {The Great Aurora} become a good card?
Quote from: Nymuera on July 25, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
So if we get landfall again, or a similar mechanic, does {The Great Aurora} become a good card?
Lol not even close TGA is the definition of cool EDH card that sucks ass in constructed
I'm more excited about {Sword of the Animist}. It's a really great card to use.
Quote from: Nymuera on July 25, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
So if we get landfall again, or a similar mechanic, does {The Great Aurora} become a good card?
It's just edh gold
If anything just {villainous wealth} for 10
Quote from: Mattao19 on July 25, 2015, 01:36:33 PM
Quote from: Nymuera on July 25, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
So if we get landfall again, or a similar mechanic, does {The Great Aurora} become a good card?
Lol not even close TGA is the definition of cool EDH card that sucks ass in constructed
{the great aurora} + {living lore}! Building it!
Quote from: Nymuera on July 25, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
So if we get landfall again, or a similar mechanic, does {The Great Aurora} become a good card?
Thing with landfall is, that you shuffle all permanents into your deck. There is no landfall ability to trigger unless you sneak the permanent in by means of an O-Ring. By that time, your combo becomes unstable.
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 26, 2015, 02:53:58 AM
Quote from: Nymuera on July 25, 2015, 01:31:49 PM
So if we get landfall again, or a similar mechanic, does {The Great Aurora} become a good card?
Thing with landfall is, that you shuffle all permanents into your deck. There is no landfall ability to trigger unless you sneak the permanent in by means of an O-Ring. By that time, your combo becomes unstable.
Lands with landfall
Whatever dies to murderous cut
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 29, 2015, 02:54:54 PM
Whatever dies to murderous cut
DIES TO REMOVAL WORST CARD EVER.
(http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/oblivionsower.jpg)
Image, for reference
Quote from: Taysby on July 29, 2015, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 29, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
It's a 5/8 for 6 with the ability to ramp.....artifacts don't have those type of numbers....
At 6 mana you don't need to ramp anymore except in edh. And most of the time you'll only hit 1 or 2 lands. There was some uncertainty about rarity. It better be a rare, or it'll be a worse mythic than {comet storm} in mms2
Remilio posted a pic,
Icon looks red to me...
The icon is also different from the "spoiled" damaged parking-lot fetch. So can we confirm fake?
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 29, 2015, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 29, 2015, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 29, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
It's a 5/8 for 6 with the ability to ramp.....artifacts don't have those type of numbers....
At 6 mana you don't need to ramp anymore except in edh. And most of the time you'll only hit 1 or 2 lands. There was some uncertainty about rarity. It better be a rare, or it'll be a worse mythic than {comet storm} in mms2
Remilio posted a pic,
Icon looks red to me...
The icon is also different from the "spoiled" damaged parking-lot fetch. So can we confirm fake?
It's not fake if you google and see zenikar vs eldrazi
The red set indicator is for the duel deck only
Polukranos was red for hero vs monsters but is a rare in theros set
If it interacts with {Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver} like Partical brought up in rules it will be a really cool card. Not sold on it being good even then but it could help you ramp while playing two very proactive cards which sounds good when you're trying to hit Eldrazi mana. I dunno. Without that interaction it's still a limited bomb.
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 29, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 29, 2015, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 29, 2015, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 29, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
It's a 5/8 for 6 with the ability to ramp.....artifacts don't have those type of numbers....
At 6 mana you don't need to ramp anymore except in edh. And most of the time you'll only hit 1 or 2 lands. There was some uncertainty about rarity. It better be a rare, or it'll be a worse mythic than {comet storm} in mms2
Remilio posted a pic,
Icon looks red to me...
The icon is also different from the "spoiled" damaged parking-lot fetch. So can we confirm fake?
It's not fake if you google and see zenikar vs eldrazi
The red set indicator is for the duel deck only
Polukranos was red for hero vs monsters but is a rare in theros set
Ah, doh.
I didn't think this one was fake, but the fetch. Since that one had horizontal Hedrons facing outward, and the DD vertical. I just missed the fact that it was the DD print. Silly me.
Since that is the case, it could well be rare in BFZ.
(The fact that duel decks actually have rarity is a whole different thing, since all DD's have the same content, no 1-of is rarer then another, but I imagine it's about power lvl?)
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 29, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 29, 2015, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 29, 2015, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 29, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
It's a 5/8 for 6 with the ability to ramp.....artifacts don't have those type of numbers....
At 6 mana you don't need to ramp anymore except in edh. And most of the time you'll only hit 1 or 2 lands. There was some uncertainty about rarity. It better be a rare, or it'll be a worse mythic than {comet storm} in mms2
Remilio posted a pic,
Icon looks red to me...
The icon is also different from the "spoiled" damaged parking-lot fetch. So can we confirm fake?
It's not fake if you google and see zenikar vs eldrazi
The red set indicator is for the duel deck only
Polukranos was red for hero vs monsters but is a rare in theros set
{Polukranos, World Eater} was a mythic in THS.
Quote from: Cender on July 30, 2015, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 29, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 29, 2015, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 29, 2015, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 29, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
It's a 5/8 for 6 with the ability to ramp.....artifacts don't have those type of numbers....
At 6 mana you don't need to ramp anymore except in edh. And most of the time you'll only hit 1 or 2 lands. There was some uncertainty about rarity. It better be a rare, or it'll be a worse mythic than {comet storm} in mms2
Remilio posted a pic,
Icon looks red to me...
The icon is also different from the "spoiled" damaged parking-lot fetch. So can we confirm fake?
It's not fake if you google and see zenikar vs eldrazi
The red set indicator is for the duel deck only
Polukranos was red for hero vs monsters but is a rare in theros set
{Polukranos, World Eater} was a mythic in THS.
Hard for a legendary creature with a name ("polukranos") to not be mythic these days...
Quote from: Cender on July 30, 2015, 05:28:40 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on July 29, 2015, 05:05:45 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on July 29, 2015, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: Taysby on July 29, 2015, 04:24:12 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on July 29, 2015, 01:13:40 PM
It's a 5/8 for 6 with the ability to ramp.....artifacts don't have those type of numbers....
At 6 mana you don't need to ramp anymore except in edh. And most of the time you'll only hit 1 or 2 lands. There was some uncertainty about rarity. It better be a rare, or it'll be a worse mythic than {comet storm} in mms2
Remilio posted a pic,
Icon looks red to me...
The icon is also different from the "spoiled" damaged parking-lot fetch. So can we confirm fake?
Oops totally right
It's not fake if you google and see zenikar vs eldrazi
The red set indicator is for the duel deck only
Polukranos was red for hero vs monsters but is a rare in theros set
{Polukranos, World Eater} was a mythic in THS.
Oops
Totally right
Bfz releases its first junk mythic
Remember the boners for Zurgo nonbellbitch
Full art lands confirmed!! Fetches also not coming back!! Get them before spike!! New cycle of lands!!
Edit: http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/125946926763/first-of-all-love-your-work-secondly-any-chance
So ktk fetches will spike to won't they
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 05, 2015, 04:34:49 PM
So ktk fetches will spike to won't they
Eh, maybe a few bucks. Their price isn't really tied into Zen fetches.
so much for trying to outsell khans
That will probably be their biggest seller for a minute out of expansions/core sets
But wait. All 2 mana walkers just 2 color so yeah
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 05, 2015, 08:29:17 PM
But wait. All 2 mana walkers just 2 color so yeah
Wait, what??
And like on full art lands. The prettiness!
Underwhelmed by these two factors
- first Eldrazi mythic is meeeeeeh
- no fetches
KTK block in russian was expensive and seeing how this is seeming to have less eternal value already (no fetches) I may have to just skip BFZ as a set to collect. Hopefully they can spoil some stuff that will make people say "take my money"
Most of the magic community is tapped out from modern masters it seems. Origins prices are silly right now due to hype, I'm just wondering if we will get any motivation with bfz or if we are heading downhill for a minute with standard
I see the Holday Gift Box comes with 20 full art lands. Are there going to be full art lands in the fat pack too?
Quote from: Rasser on August 06, 2015, 05:25:00 PM
I see the Holday Gift Box comes with 20 full art lands. Are there going to be full art lands in the fat pack too?
It doesn't specify that they are full art lands, only that they are BFZ lands. The fact that they are only giving 20 in the box leads me to that conclusion however. Also they increased MSRP by $5 and included a 5th pack. Net effect is the box plus 20 lands costs $5 whereas before the box plus 80 lands cost $4
Anybody remember if zen fat packs had full arts in them?
Guys I talked too locally said old zen fat packs had full arts in them
Anybody think they will do hidden treasures again
Quote from: Boomer17 on August 06, 2015, 10:44:07 PM
Anybody think they will do hidden treasures again
Nope. Unless it's a one time spoiler like {magister of worth} type.
Quote from: Boomer17 on August 06, 2015, 10:43:47 PM
Guys I talked too locally said old zen fat packs had full arts in them
Yes, the old zen fatpacks had full arts, I could see them including full art lands but at a lower count. We will see, all I know is I'm stoked :D
I kind of hate you right now taysby
Quote from: Taysby on August 07, 2015, 12:17:37 AM
Maro lied. Fetchlands are reprinted. Albeit a little different. Many that's what he meant by the old fetchlands aren't reprinted. They've been updated to how magic is now.
http://m.imgur.com/a/Ks5py
LOL!!
Why primal command? That cycle is from lowryn.
Link plox ?
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 17, 2015, 07:44:52 PM
Link plox ?
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/spoilers/164-battle-for-zendikar
Okay so the mechanic Ingest makes it sound like {Oblivion Sower} for /sure/ steals all lands from exile. I'm looking forward to more cool interactions like that.
Like the {Retreat to Kazandu}.
Hear me out here...
T1 Mountain into {Faithless Looting} discarding {It That Betrays}
T2 Swamp into {Forerunner of Slaughter}
T3 {Reanimate} {It That Betrays} use Forerunners haste ability.
Attack for 11, annihilator 2 on T3 at the earliest simple play.
Win.
Edit: Also..... allies..... good god.
Quote from: Taysby on August 17, 2015, 06:19:51 PM
Allies are back, and {primal command} confirmed. does that also mean cryptic?
Primal is only confirmed to be in the duel deck...
Quote from: Taysby on August 17, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
So was nissa
If I get the origin story straight, Nissa is from Zendikar but walked to Lorwyn after having a vision about the Eldrazi.
Quote from: VQMracing on August 05, 2015, 03:52:31 PM
Full art lands confirmed!! Fetches also not coming back!! Get them before spike!! New cycle of lands!!
Edit: http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/125946926763/first-of-all-love-your-work-secondly-any-chance
Just thought I'd share.
(http://33.media.tumblr.com/5ff82884881d971f140225e060d45f33/tumblr_nsnfqo5lqy1s9rpajo1_500.gif)
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/new-mulligan-rule-starting-battle-zendikar-prereleases-2015-08-20
Quote from: Rass on August 22, 2015, 11:26:44 AM
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/new-mulligan-rule-starting-battle-zendikar-prereleases-2015-08-20
Interesting. I'll have to start testing it myself.
Yay fat packs confirmed to have full art lands
Fresh from Worlds at PAX:
Guardian of Tazeem 3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, tap target creature an opponent controls. If that land is an Island, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
4/5
Image for reference:
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/2c7a981b3a284ff90ac2446ccfeaf783/tumblr_ntrkigdBnE1txuc44o1_1280.png)
LANDFALL IS BACK YAAAAY
Nice new pic lammmmaaa
Isn't that the wrong set symbol? Or am I insane?
Edit: I'm insane. Good to know.
You're insane
Quote from: Remillo on August 27, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
Fresh from Worlds at PAX:
Guardian of Tazeem 3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, tap target creature an opponent controls. If that land is an Island, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
4/5
A brick house in limited. 10/10 would draft again.
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on August 27, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 27, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
Fresh from Worlds at PAX:
Guardian of Tazeem 3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, tap target creature an opponent controls. If that land is an Island, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
4/5
A brick house in limited. 10/10 would draft again.
Psssssssh dies to removal
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 27, 2015, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on August 27, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 27, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
Fresh from Worlds at PAX:
Guardian of Tazeem 3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, tap target creature an opponent controls. If that land is an Island, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
4/5
A brick house in limited. 10/10 would draft again.
Psssssssh dies to removal
Psssssssssssssssssshhhhhh dies to damnation
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 27, 2015, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on August 27, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 27, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
Fresh from Worlds at PAX:
Guardian of Tazeem 3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, tap target creature an opponent controls. If that land is an Island, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
4/5
A brick house in limited. 10/10 would draft again.
Psssssssh dies to removal
Take my +1 and get out.
Quote from: Deebiia on August 27, 2015, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 27, 2015, 09:04:34 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on August 27, 2015, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: Remillo on August 27, 2015, 07:14:20 PM
Fresh from Worlds at PAX:
Guardian of Tazeem 3UU
Creature - Sphinx
Flying
Landfall - Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, tap target creature an opponent controls. If that land is an Island, that creature doesn't untap during its controller's next untap step.
4/5
A brick house in limited. 10/10 would draft again.
Psssssssh dies to removal
Take my +1 and get out.
Right back atcha
wish I knew how to link, at pax try just showed us Ulamog the ceaseless hunger. Exiles top 20 cards of opponent when it etb. Costs ten.
New Ulamog spoiled ... among other things.
Wheeeeee I love spoiler season.
Quote from: Distriimuir on August 29, 2015, 10:03:43 PM
wish I knew how to link, at pax try just showed us Ulamog the ceaseless hunger. Exiles top 20 cards of opponent when it etb. Costs ten.
It's on the battle for zendikar spoiler at http://mythicspoiler.com
Wheeeeeeee
Mmmmm.... New Ulamog.... So frighteningly yummy....
Holy .poo. Ulamog....I started to giggle when I saw this....yay for eldrazi!
This set looks so cool! New {Ulamong the infinite gyre} is maybe even better than the old one.
Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Honestly, new ulamog is better imo. Exiles two instead of destroy one, still indestructible, and while no annilihator, exile 20. Attack three times, win. He's freaking outstanding.
it looks like annihilator is gone huh
Finally a good Gideon
Not quite as good as shocks but a welcome addition
they have land types!!!! So they're fetchable!!! They'll be insane in std and might see minor Mdn play!!
Nissa just got a lot better
Any link. Didn't see them on mythic
Mythicspoiler.com
They're up there now
those lands
Sexy full arts, and the dual lands! Not the best but it's enough for me! So down for this set. The flavor, the cards, I'm a happy spellslinger.
Meh. The duels are ok.
Anyone else feel like they're over doing it trying to print money? They're cheapening the whole game I feel.
Quote from: Falcon182 on August 29, 2015, 11:52:37 PM
Anyone else feel like they're over doing it trying to print money? They're cheapening the whole game I feel.
Lol felt this way since way before.
Idc! Those full art shocks and fetches are so sexy!!!! I want all of them!
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 29, 2015, 11:55:35 PM
Idc! Those full art shocks and fetches are so sexy!!!! I want all of them!
Where do you see the full art shocks? I'm blind
http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/steamvents.html
So although you can open them in BFZ packs the shocks and fetches aren't std legal
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 30, 2015, 12:07:18 AM
http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/steamvents.html
So although you can open them in BFZ packs the shocks and fetches aren't std legal
*spits out drink*
*orders 10 cases*
Interesting thanks.
Honestly guys screw Santa this day should be the new Christmas! lol
Wait wtf
Will it just be Mesa and vents or will it be the whole cycle?
From people's comments. Sounded like two ten set land cycle.
Quote from: Splicer on August 30, 2015, 12:18:40 AM
Will it just be Mesa and vents or will it be the whole cycle?
Probably the cycle. But like they said they would be more frequent than premium mythics
Like uh
Will that decrease our actual mythic count per box to the actual mythics from the set
How many cases do we buy...
I need adult supervision
Question is are they gonna up the prices on the boxes
This will be the first box i buy since m15
And in that m15 box i pulled foil nissa and foil hivelord
Lets hope im just lucky with these things
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tOuJSELlss8
Go to fifty minute for the land part
So who else's social media blew up?
How rare is a premium mythic
Is it like trying to pull a foil mythic ?
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 30, 2015, 01:08:59 AM
How rare is a premium mythic
Is it like trying to pull a foil mythic ?
Ya
It's gonna be a foil mythic - average of 1 per case
Ouch.
Ugh....
How pissed if you buy a case and just get one of the new lands..
What do you mean? That's the average?
More so : if you buy a case and get the terrible eldrazi from duel deck as your mythic foil 😖😖😖
So anyone have the actual math ratio?
They said at premium mythic rarity = mythic foil
Which I've heard from many lgs that it's usually one mythic rare per case for most sets (with exception of mm15)
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 30, 2015, 01:16:59 AM
More so : if you buy a case and get the terrible eldrazi from duel deck as your mythic foil 😖😖😖
Oh come now I'm hoping I'd still get a set mythic in addition, don't make me queasy
Hey I got an mm2 box with only 2 mythics - 1 was comet storm and my best rares were 2 day breaks: the potential to open a 💩 box is very real
If you wanna make money, don't get into magic lol
I will cry for you.
That really sucks.
God I want to buy a case. But I'm also at the brink of quitting.
I have 72 Ktk fetches I'm about to sell but I don't knowwwwwww it's hardddddd
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 30, 2015, 01:29:31 AM
If you wanna make money, don't get into magic lol
Lol not trying to make money just trying not to go broke.
You have 72 Ktk fetches???! Damn son
Quote from: Rass on August 30, 2015, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 30, 2015, 01:29:31 AM
If you wanna make money, don't get into magic lol
Lol not trying to make money just trying not to go broke.
No need for the full arts except vanity 😝
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 30, 2015, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: Rass on August 30, 2015, 01:34:15 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 30, 2015, 01:29:31 AM
If you wanna make money, don't get into magic lol
Lol not trying to make money just trying not to go broke.
No need for the full arts except vanity 😝
Trade fodder
Looks like I should park my Eldrazi EDH building project for a bit... New Uli might make an even better commander than {Kozilek, Butcher of Truth}...
So the prerelease packs are still gonna be separate boxes that don't come from booster boxes right? So no full art fetches in prerelease?
Whats the msrp?
They are printed in English only, but can be opened in packs of all languages.
Sadness. Full art fetches only in English .
Quote from: Popper23345 on August 30, 2015, 09:12:42 AM
Whats the msrp?
I believe it's the same as it has been. $4 a pack
YUS
Quote from: Noblellama on August 30, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
What's this about full art fetches???
Quote from: Rass on August 30, 2015, 12:38:28 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tOuJSELlss8
Go to fifty minute for the land part
Quote from: Noblellama on August 30, 2015, 11:14:07 AM
What's this about full art fetches???
Llama so late to the hype train like a llamer
Full art, foily fetches... Why they have to ruin full art by making it foily??
It'll be terrible mm15 foiling ;)
Idk about you guys but the new land cycle looks amazing. Especially with fetches in standard. New Ulamog is awesome.
I've never wanted to be an elitist as badly as I do right now.
I need to get a second job just to pay for these amazingly beautiful lands.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/battle-zendikar-your-first-look-2015-08-29#rteright
Just buy on eBay at $175+
Is anyone else as retarded excited as me about these full art foil fetches and shocks? I also do like the new duals......especially in a dual color deck where I may have more basics. Maybe as a 1 of in some tri-color decks. Either way, I am not sure I will run more than 1 or 2 in any modern deck. But I am in dire need of the full art foils.......all of them lol
Quote from: cltrn81 on August 31, 2015, 10:26:14 AM
Is anyone else as retarded excited as me about these full art foil fetches and shocks? I also do like the new duals......especially in a dual color deck where I may have more basics. Maybe as a 1 of in some tri-color decks. Either way, I am not sure I will run more than 1 or 2 in any modern deck. But I am in dire need of the full art foils.......all of them lol
You'll be first on my list to talk to when i hit one
Just ordered my playsets of shocks and fetches. Don't really care for the duels from this set.
Quote from: Rass on August 31, 2015, 10:30:48 AM
Just ordered my playsets of shocks and fetches. Don't really care for the duels from this set.
Ordered the foil full art fetches and shocks !?
How much did that run you !?!?!
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 31, 2015, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: Rass on August 31, 2015, 10:30:48 AM
Just ordered my playsets of shocks and fetches. Don't really care for the duels from this set.
Ordered the foil full art fetches and shocks !?
How much did that run you !?!?!
I was kidding. It would probably be a second mortgage.
I'm too cheap to order the regular fetches.
Quote from: Rass on August 31, 2015, 10:32:54 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 31, 2015, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: Rass on August 31, 2015, 10:30:48 AM
Just ordered my playsets of shocks and fetches. Don't really care for the duels from this set.
Ordered the foil full art fetches and shocks !?
How much did that run you !?!?!
I was kidding. It would probably be a second mortgage.
I'm too cheap to order the regular fetches.
Man I was like omg big pimp on campus over here
The new duals could be useful so long as you do not draw them lol. But cracking a fetch with 2 basics would be nice to only lose 1 life instead of 3 for a traditional shock land untapped.
Quote from: cltrn81 on August 31, 2015, 10:48:10 AM
The new duals could be useful so long as you do not draw them lol. But cracking a fetch with 2 basics would be nice to only lose 1 life instead of 3 for a traditional shock land untapped.
I thought fetches brought shocks in untapped for free anyway
I'm so behind lol
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on August 31, 2015, 10:58:47 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on August 31, 2015, 10:48:10 AM
The new duals could be useful so long as you do not draw them lol. But cracking a fetch with 2 basics would be nice to only lose 1 life instead of 3 for a traditional shock land untapped.
I thought fetches brought shocks in untapped for free anyway
I'm so behind lol
If you can get away with it 😬😬😬
I did have a dream that I cracked a foil full art {Steam Vents} during BFZ prerelease. However this dream also had such silly things as,
It's 2HG and my mom and I are facing family friends, but one of them wasn't there yet and we were playing anyway, then the other got there and just started building a deck.
One of the staff members calling a smoke break and basically everyone getting up mid game and leaving.
Oh hell yes
Well, annihalator is hard to balance so we decided to give people a chance to run aggro/mill....
(Was what MaRo didn't say)...
How is 10 CMC aggro? :P
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 31, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Well, annihalator is hard to balance so we decided to give people a chance to run aggro/mill....
(Was what MaRo didn't say)...
Yo, do you work for WotC?
If so... Then im reeeeeaAaallly behind on this forum thing
Quote from: Popper23345 on August 31, 2015, 12:59:31 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on August 31, 2015, 12:33:12 PM
Well, annihalator is hard to balance so we decided to give people a chance to run aggro/mill....
(Was what MaRo didn't say)...
Yo, do you work for WotC?
If so... Then im reeeeeaAaallly behind on this forum thing
I wish... But then I probably wouldn't be allowed to say this :)
Quote from: cltrn81 on August 31, 2015, 12:40:12 PM
How is 10 CMC aggro? :P
It's a lot more aggressive then {sphinx's tutelage}... And there are bound to be ways to cheat him out.
Just paid $580 for my preordered case. Come on October
10 Cmc can be aggro with {see the unwritten}
Simic eldrazi mill - calling it!
Quote from: LinkToThePast on August 31, 2015, 02:24:31 PM
Just paid $580 for my preordered case. Come on October
What's a case
6 boxes I believe
Msrp for a box is usually 120+ tax
My lgs is 100 per box
600 per case
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 31, 2015, 04:15:17 PM
Msrp for a box is usually 120+ tax
MSRP on an In-Print box of Magic is about $90 USD. Most stores just put an up-charge on them for no reason.
Quote from: Remillo on August 31, 2015, 04:29:20 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 31, 2015, 04:15:17 PM
Msrp for a box is usually 120+ tax
MSRP on an In-Print box of Magic is about $90 USD. Most stores just put an up-charge on them for no reason.
Because money
I paid 97 a box. My lgs usually sells boxes at 105 but since I got a case he gave a pretty good discount
What turn is the fastest that {omnath locus of rage} could get out in edh?
For reference hes {3}{R}{R}{G}{G}
Maybe something like
T1 forest, {elvish mystic}
T2 mountain, {sol ring}, {llanowar elves}
T3 mountain, omnath?
And then get a 5/5 elemental for every land you play :). Edh ftw
Quote from: Popper23345 on August 31, 2015, 10:50:00 PM
What turn is the fastest that {omnath locus of rage} could get out in edh?
For reference hes {3}{R}{R}{G}{G}
Maybe something like
T1 forest, {elvish mystic}
T2 mountain, {sol ring}, {llanowar elves}
T3 mountain, omnath?
And then get a 5/5 elemental for every land you play :). Edh ftw
T1 land {Sol Ring} -> {Copper Myr}
T2 land exile {Simian Spirit Guide} and {Elvish Spirit Guide} cast Omnath lol
I'm the right deck that could be SOOO consistent! Lol jk 😂
New spoils
I think the ally leader is better than lantern...Lantern selling fast but....I just don't know about it, could be pretty oppressive with first strikes
Ulamog doesn't have an anti reanimation clause. I think I found my deck of choice already. Time will tell.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 01, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
Ulamog doesn't have an anti reanimation clause. I think I found my deck of choice already. Time will tell.
Please tell me you are not thinking Ulamog whip in standard.. Whip rotates..
Salt city llama
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 02, 2015, 01:37:51 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 01, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
Ulamog doesn't have an anti reanimation clause. I think I found my deck of choice already. Time will tell.
Please tell me you are not thinking Ulamog whip in standard.. Whip rotates..
{Fearsome Awakening}, {Necromantic Summons}.
Why take for a turn what you can have for eternity?
I'm well aware of rotations. Trying to work out discard/self mill without M15/Theros goodies is hard.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 02, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 02, 2015, 01:37:51 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 01, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
Ulamog doesn't have an anti reanimation clause. I think I found my deck of choice already. Time will tell.
Please tell me you are not thinking Ulamog whip in standard.. Whip rotates..
{Fearsome Awakening}, {Necromantic Summons}.
Why take for a turn what you can have for eternity?
I'm well aware of rotations. Trying to work out discard/self mill without M15/Theros goodies is hard.
G/B ramp reanimator? Sultai for self mill? I'm in!
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 02, 2015, 07:17:02 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 02, 2015, 05:59:27 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 02, 2015, 01:37:51 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 01, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
Ulamog doesn't have an anti reanimation clause. I think I found my deck of choice already. Time will tell.
Please tell me you are not thinking Ulamog whip in standard.. Whip rotates..
{Fearsome Awakening}, {Necromantic Summons}.
Why take for a turn what you can have for eternity?
I'm well aware of rotations. Trying to work out discard/self mill without M15/Theros goodies is hard.
G/B ramp reanimator? Sultai for self mill? I'm in!
Sultai reanimator is going to be my first attempt. I had an okay shell around {Stormtide Leviathan} but I didn't try it out too much cause I was too busy Jalira polymorphing.
Just found out that I have a concert the weekend of the pre release in philly so that sucks.
I'm partial to nulamog myself lol
{godless shrine} full art spoiled. Kinda spicy.
Not sure if magic lore would tell us if this is possible or not....... Would be cool if they make an Eldrazi planeswalker.
Emrakul, <insert cool name> CMC=a lot
+6 do something cool
-10 do something cooler
-25 rips the world into tiny pieces
Loyalty=a lot
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 03, 2015, 02:22:14 PM
Not sure if magic lore would tell us if this is possible or not....... Would be cool if they make an Eldrazi planeswalker.
Emrakul, <insert cool name> CMC=a lot
+6 do something cool
-10 do something cooler
-25 rips the world into tiny pieces
Loyalty=a lot
No clue if possible. But i think it would be a safe bet that you wouldn't see anything with a plus 6. {Bolas, planeswalker} is just oppressive and he has a plus 3. Even plus 2 abilities are really strong at keeping the walker alive. If anything it could work maybe like {Gideon, Champion of Justice}. Eldrazi love to sac those drone things so maybe.
Emmy, the adorable {10}
+1 you may sacrifice any number of colorless creatures you control. Put 1 loyalty counter on emmy, the adorable for each creature sacrificed this way.
0 target player sacrifices a colored permanent of your choosing.
-20 exile all colored permanents target player controls, and their library. Then shuffle their graveyard into their library.
9 starting loyalty.
Eldrazi are all "Planeswalkers" as they can travel through the blind eternities
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 03, 2015, 02:22:14 PM
Not sure if magic lore would tell us if this is possible or not....... Would be cool if they make an Eldrazi planeswalker.
Emrakul, <insert cool name> CMC=a lot
+6 do something cool
-10 do something cooler
-25 rips the world into tiny pieces
Loyalty=a lot
MaRo said there won't be an Eldrazi Planeswalker iirc
Ohh goodie maybe that means Tibalt reprint!
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 03, 2015, 08:46:13 PM
Ohh goodie maybe that means Tibalt reprint!
You mean remake, right? Right? *twitches*
I dunno...Tibalt and delve, maybe some red reanimator action
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 03, 2015, 09:51:04 PM
I dunno...Tibalt and delve, maybe some red reanimator action
But the discard is at random.
Still fills gy for delve :P
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 03, 2015, 09:56:36 PM
Still fills gy for delve :P
Or fills your gy with your delve spells.
Played the duel deck, and random discard is really messed up. As often as not, you'll lose the spell you wanted to keep.
But 2 drop planes walker!
Quote from: Taysby on September 04, 2015, 11:20:36 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 04, 2015, 01:43:20 AM
But 2 drop planes walker!
{jace, vryn's prodigy}
{kytheon forgot the rest of his name}
:P
Was just thinking, all ORI walkers are 3- CMC plus some effort.
I was being sarcastic about tibalt lol
Need more real spoilers. This spec game on mtg finance feels stale currently
Should i buy a box and a fat pack so i can get the lands also? Or hould i open two boxes and try to get something valuable?
Because you get one full art with each pack right?
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 05, 2015, 05:28:22 PM
Should i buy a box and a fat pack so i can get the lands also? Or hould i open two boxes and try to get something valuable?
Because you get one full art with each pack right?
Two boxes. Plus with the boxes you have a chance at the packs foils being lands.
Quote from: redwolv on September 05, 2015, 05:44:39 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 05, 2015, 05:28:22 PM
Should i buy a box and a fat pack so i can get the lands also? Or hould i open two boxes and try to get something valuable?
Because you get one full art with each pack right?
Two boxes. Plus with the boxes you have a chance at the packs foils being lands.
Anyone wanna come down to keno and help me draft 2 boxes?
Lol
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 05, 2015, 05:46:39 PM
Quote from: redwolv on September 05, 2015, 05:44:39 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 05, 2015, 05:28:22 PM
Should i buy a box and a fat pack so i can get the lands also? Or hould i open two boxes and try to get something valuable?
Because you get one full art with each pack right?
Two boxes. Plus with the boxes you have a chance at the packs foils being lands.
Anyone wanna come down to keno and help me draft 2 boxes?
I play for keeps. Haha
Yes! But I don't know if I'll be able to. Where's keno?
Quote from: Splicer on September 05, 2015, 05:48:21 PM
Yes! But I don't know if I'll be able to. Where's keno?
South eastern wisconsin. Really close to the lake
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 05, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: Splicer on September 05, 2015, 05:48:21 PM
Yes! But I don't know if I'll be able to. Where's keno?
South eastern wisconsin. Really close to the lake
Just drive down to chicago.
Sadly I won't be able to make it, post your pulls though!
Quote from: Rass on September 05, 2015, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 05, 2015, 06:12:24 PM
Quote from: Splicer on September 05, 2015, 05:48:21 PM
Yes! But I don't know if I'll be able to. Where's keno?
South eastern wisconsin. Really close to the lake
Just drive down to chicago.
Im only 15. I still have my permit, and none of my parents will come with :/
Quote from: Splicer on September 05, 2015, 07:25:22 PM
Sadly I won't be able to make it, post your pulls though!
I will on October 2nd or 3rd :)
Anyone find the cheapest place to get a case yet?
Think 600 for a case locally or something like that
How much do different language boxes cost?
Usually 120+ where I live (Los Angeles)
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 05, 2015, 08:35:55 PM
Think 600 for a case locally or something like that
Wasn't sure if somewhere online was cheaper.
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 05, 2015, 08:37:17 PM
How much do different language boxes cost?
For me 90 English 120 any other language
Hmm,
One in english and one in a dofferent language? Sounds fun 😁
Quote from: Rass on September 05, 2015, 08:27:36 PM
Anyone find the cheapest place to get a case yet?
Cheapest I could find (in like a 15 minute search) was $620. But eBay had single boxes for $101. I'm not sure how eBay works anymore
Quote from: Taysby on September 05, 2015, 08:29:41 PM
Buying a jap box for those foil basics. XD
Have one Russian pre ordered looking for a Japanese or German.
I think that UB death touch + ingest + draw/exile is a nice touch for control shells
Quote from: particle on September 06, 2015, 08:39:53 AM
Quote from: Taysby on September 05, 2015, 08:29:41 PM
Buying a jap box for those foil basics. XD
Have one Russian pre ordered looking for a Japanese or German.
Which language would be the best, value wise? Bcuz i want a foreign box, but have no experience with foreign prices
#value
Russian
Mkay... If i get a russian FOIL full art BASIC LAND.... Ill have you to thank muggs :)
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 06, 2015, 10:04:12 PM
Mkay... If i get a russian full art mesa.... Ill have you to thank muggs :)
These full art lands will only be in English
Fixed it
That kinda sucks though
New card? It's pretty bad
Have to disagree mustachio
1/1 for 2 not flying
Deathtouch all day on other 1/1s
Two colors and the other ability you have to either be in sultai colors or generally aren't pulling off until turn 5
Which seems really lackluster
Sure late game it's a cute mana sink, but 5 mana... Nah if it were like 3 mana and had a bigger drawback it woulda been cute
I think
For reference:
Deep Sea Scavenger
UB
Creature - Eldrazi Drone
Devoid
Deathtouch
Ingest (Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, that player exiles the top card of his or her library.)
3UB: Draw a card. Each opponent exiles the top card of their library.
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 07, 2015, 08:29:14 AM
For reference:
Deep Sea Scavenger
UB
Creature - Eldrazi Drone
Devoid
Deathtouch
Ingest (Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, that player exiles the top card of his or her library.)
3UB: Draw a card. Each opponent exiles the top card of their library.
I think I can see it work in a UB control shell.
Too bad {Jorubai Murk Lurker} rotates out though.
But with {sphynx's tutelage}, Jace, and all the other mill things, UB control mill could be a thing.
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 07, 2015, 08:32:18 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 07, 2015, 08:29:14 AM
For reference:
Deep Sea Scavenger
UB
Creature - Eldrazi Drone
Devoid
Deathtouch
Ingest (Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, that player exiles the top card of his or her library.)
3UB: Draw a card. Each opponent exiles the top card of their library.
I think I can see it work in a UB control shell.
Too bad {Jorubai Murk Lurker} rotates out though.
But with {sphynx's tutelage}, Jace, and all the other mill things, UB control mill could be a thing.
I don't think a control shell cares about a crappy creature that would be better spent on a card, a lot of the times the control deck doesn't even want cheap creatures because they don't want the opponent able to interact with their board generally.
And if it get through it gets one card per turn... Just. No.
Everytime I read it, I just think of how much better
{baleful strix is}
Legacy vs standard lol
Also a lot of good simic stuff, here's hoping to good b items or I might be going bant
If there's maybe a way to use it in some blue black midrange mayyyybe I just don't see it
Why would you not just run a {hangarback}
In that spot in all situations
For me as a bug player - I don't mind death touch raptors and eldrazi
Means I won't be attacked aggressively ;)
It's not that I want it to be bad
And if you show me in organized play that it's good I'll revoke my statement
But God so many bad rares
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 07, 2015, 11:27:05 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 07, 2015, 08:32:18 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 07, 2015, 08:29:14 AM
For reference:
Deep Sea Scavenger
UB
Creature - Eldrazi Drone
Devoid
Deathtouch
Ingest (Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, that player exiles the top card of his or her library.)
3UB: draw, each opponent exiles top.
I don't think a control shell cares about a crappy creature that would be better spent on a card, a lot of the times the control deck doesn't even want cheap creatures because they don't want the opponent able to interact with their board generally.
And if it get through it gets one card per turn... Just. No
Actually, with tutelage online you'll be looking at {3}{U}{B}: draw & mill 3+.
Seems an ok mana sink when looking at mill..
Fight emblem + deathmist
Value
Quote from: bravado883 on September 07, 2015, 01:15:54 PM
Ummm, did everyone miss the "enemy manlands" announcement? I'm like, pooping myself over here. Also, a 3{W}{W} destroy all non-land creatures and the other two planeswalkers. And now that esper gets basically all the mana, you can believe I will be using {Ojutai's Command} to rebuy Deep Sea Scavenger. That card is value-town, I pretty much love it.
Esper will love the death touch
Doesn't die to ultimate price!
YESS KIORA AND ON PLANESWALKERS YAYY IM SO HYPED
Her art is terrible but her library filter
Feed the delve!
New Nixilis staple for {Nekusar, the mind razer} EDH?
http://i.imgur.com/63lWpEx.jpg
Green is getting nice toys
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 07, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
http://i.imgur.com/63lWpEx.jpg
Green is getting nice toys
Noice!
two new planeswalkers were spoiled. And how did Ob Nilixis get his spark back. On another note, his final ability is pretty good
Just noticed the new duals will have multiple land types like the shocks. So you can fetch or farseek them.
Quote from: adventus on September 07, 2015, 08:17:24 PM
Just noticed the new duals will have multiple land types like the shocks. So you can fetch or farseek them.
That's why I'm optimistic about them.
New mainlands are cool
Desolation twin {10}
When desolation twin enters the battle field, but a 10/10 token into play named desplation twin
P/t
10/10
:O
Two 10/10s for 10 at rare!?!?!
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 07, 2015, 09:46:47 PM
Desolation twin {10}
When desolation twin enters the battle field, but a 10/10 token into play named desplation twin
P/t
10/10
:O
Two 10/10s for 10 at rare!?!?!
Let me correct you real quick the text is "when you cast desolation twin put a 10/10 token" etc. so it's not an enter the board ability it's simply a casting trigger therefore, you wanna try and counter my 10/10 guy? That's fine, because I get my 10/10 token regardless fool.
That crux of fate is lookin mighty nice
Some cute things coming in today:
Temple of the Forsaken Gods
Land
T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
T: Add 2 to your mana pool. Use this mana only to cast Colorless spells and only if you control seven or more lands.
Smothering Abomination 2BB
Creature - Eldrazi
Devoid
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice a creature.
Whenever you sacrifice a creature, draw a card.
4/3
Zada, Hedron Grinder 3R
Legendary Creature - Goblin Ally
Whenever you cast an instant or sorcery spell that targets only Zada, Hedron Grinder, copy that spell for each other creature you control that the spell could target. Each copy targets a different one of those creatures.
3/3
Quote from: Taysby on September 08, 2015, 12:05:47 PM
More like {false temple of the false gods} because it's so bad XD
But it has a regular {T} to add {1}
So ou can use it early and late game
Plus this format is gonna like mana ramp woth landfall triggers
Quote from: Taysby on September 08, 2015, 12:05:47 PM
More like {false temple of the false gods} because it's so bad XD
Turn 1 hangarback tho
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 08, 2015, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: Taysby on September 08, 2015, 12:05:47 PM
More like {false temple of the false gods} because it's so bad XD
Turn 1 hangarback tho
Need 7 or more lands to enable the T: 2. It's a Temple of the False Gods that can tap for mana early but needs more lands to put 'online'.
I was hoping for some more colors on the Ally legendary. Still no shot at a full tribal ally with matching commander.
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 08, 2015, 02:42:44 PM
I was hoping for some more colors on the Ally legendary. Still no shot at a full tribal ally with matching commander.
Might as well keep using {Karona, False God} for the buff.
Quote from: Remillo on September 08, 2015, 02:26:57 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 08, 2015, 01:52:16 PM
Quote from: Taysby on September 08, 2015, 12:05:47 PM
More like {false temple of the false gods} because it's so bad XD
Turn 1 hangarback tho
Need 7 or more lands to enable the T: 2. It's a Temple of the False Gods that can tap for mana early but needs more lands to put 'online'.
Ah, selective reading
Full art {Sacred Foundry} spoiled and go
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 08, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
Full art {Sacred Foundry} spoiled and go
Will not be standard legal.
There is also gonna be full art enemy fetchlands. If you look close you will notice the symbols are different.
Quote from: redwolv on September 08, 2015, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 08, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
Full art {Sacred Foundry} spoiled and go
Will not be standard legal.
I know they wont be standard legal...just pointing out that it was spoiled :)
(http://i58.tinypic.com/a3cvop.jpg)
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 08, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: redwolv on September 08, 2015, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 08, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
Full art {Sacred Foundry} spoiled and go
Will not be standard legal.
I know they wont be standard legal...just pointing out that it was spoiled :)
Wasn't sure. I missed that bit of info when it was first accouned, was pretty sad they wouldn't be standard legal. Just wannted to make sure you where in the loop cause I know it bugs me when I am not.
Quote from: redwolv on September 08, 2015, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 08, 2015, 03:49:14 PM
Quote from: redwolv on September 08, 2015, 03:31:09 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 08, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
Full art {Sacred Foundry} spoiled and go
Will not be standard legal.
I know they wont be standard legal...just pointing out that it was spoiled :)
Wasn't sure. I missed that bit of info when it was first accouned, was pretty sad they wouldn't be standard legal. Just wannted to make sure you where in the loop cause I know it bugs me when I am not.
If they were standard legal, at /that/ rarity, you'd see some stupid prices and many people, myself included, would be upset.
Quote from: Taysby on September 08, 2015, 09:16:51 PM
Then people would use the old version. :/
Would still be crazy.
They probs still will be super crazy, just.. Not AS super crazy
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 08, 2015, 09:27:28 PM
They probs still will be super crazy, just.. Not AS super crazy
Agreed.
😳😳😳
Full art flooded strand as an expedition. I definitely need new pants this time.
So, it looks like Battle for Zendikar's Expedition prints are all ten Fetches, all ten Shocks and the five Discount Double Check lands from BFZ.
Now to speculate on OGW's... We know five of them will be DDC lands.
Quote from: Remillo on September 09, 2015, 01:50:36 PM
So, it looks like Battle for Zendikar's Expedition prints are all ten Fetches, all ten Shocks and the five Discount Double Check lands from BFZ.
Now to speculate on OGW's... We know five of them will be DDC lands.
TO Expand:
We know for almost certain that we're getting the other 5 DDC Lands in Oath, as WotC doesn't print partial cycles anymore. This means we'll have them there and in the Expeditions prints for that set. That's 5 of the 20 slots.
We're likely to see a full, 10-card cycle for the Oath Expeditions, which gives us a few options: Original Check Lands, Manlands from original Zendikar (Worldwake?) and Battle for Zendikar, Theros Temples or Shadowmoor-block Filter Lands. I'm not including the Tri-Lands because it wouldn't make sense to print lands in Expeditions that weren't originally at Rare.
That leaves an awkward 5 slots. Logic says this will be the Mirrodin Fast Lands, as that's really the only 5-card cycle of Rare Lands in recent years. Unless they dip down to Uncommon for Lorwyn Vivds or print 5 Five-color lands, (OR PRINT QUAD LANDS IN OATH?) that's probably what they are. There is one other possibility that I barely even want to type out... Terese Nielsen Basics?
So, some speculation.
Quote from: Remillo on September 09, 2015, 01:58:35 PM
Quote from: Remillo on September 09, 2015, 01:50:36 PM
So, it looks like Battle for Zendikar's Expedition prints are all ten Fetches, all ten Shocks and the five Discount Double Check lands from BFZ.
Now to speculate on OGW's... We know five of them will be DDC lands.
TO Expand:
We know for almost certain that we're getting the other 5 DDC Lands in Oath, as WotC doesn't print partial cycles anymore. This means we'll have them there and in the Expeditions prints for that set. That's 5 of the 20 slots.
We're likely to see a full, 10-card cycle for the Oath Expeditions, which gives us a few options: Original Check Lands, Manlands from original Zendikar (Worldwake?) and Battle for Zendikar, Theros Temples or Shadowmoor-block Filter Lands. I'm not including the Tri-Lands because it wouldn't make sense to print lands in Expeditions that weren't originally at Rare.
That leaves an awkward 5 slots. Logic says this will be the Mirrodin Fast Lands, as that's really the only 5-card cycle of Rare Lands in recent years. Unless they dip down to Uncommon for Lorwyn Vivds or print 5 Five-color lands, (OR PRINT QUAD LANDS IN OATH?) that's probably what they are. There is one other possibility that I barely even want to type out... Terese Nielsen Basics?
So, some speculation.
Don't say terese Nielsen... I'm out of pants.
I thought he said they are going to do a total of 40 lands 25 this set then 15 next set.
So basically: most of bfz will be worthless
(Going by khans & how fetches have affected those prices)
Which they will
Wasn't that the point of the expeditions?
Drive up sales, like Wonka did with the Golden Ticket?
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 09, 2015, 04:49:20 PM
I'm interested to see pricing. If thwyre really 300$ boxes have a change to pay for 3 more boxes theoretically.....
Please recheck and resubmit
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 09, 2015, 03:23:00 PM
So basically: most of bfz will be worthless
(Going by khans & how fetches have affected those prices)
This kind of makes me not want to get a case
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 09, 2015, 05:46:38 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 09, 2015, 03:23:00 PM
So basically: most of bfz will be worthless
(Going by khans & how fetches have affected those prices)
This kind of makes me not want to get a case
This kind of wants me to get two foreign boxes instead of english...
I agree, As a foreign buyer, I know my cards will be traditionally worth more just due to rarity
So going for the random box of Russian always seems a better idea
This might be the block where you dont splurge on booster packs at all. Buy a few hoping to get lucky but by and large it might be better to just buy singles for a while.
Lots spec say this is the sealed product to hold on to
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 10, 2015, 03:14:53 AM
Lots spec say this is the sealed product to hold on to
Can imagine. Uncracked it has the potential for any full art expedition. Lottery appeal. Pretty much like the treasure packs a LGS in our country made. Entire revised set including P9, and other "goodies" randomly packed. Bought two, got pretty much junk. (Best value? I think that'd be Russian {hollow dogs}). So: closed it COULD contain a {black lotus} Revised, now, it's a collection of junk.
Yeah
You won't profit from a box
Seems like wiz wants to reduce price of standard singles by putting eternal chase cards in standard product so people just cash out on em
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 10, 2015, 03:36:17 AM
Yeah
You won't profit from a box
Seems like wiz wants to reduce price of standard singles by putting eternal chase cards in standard product so people just cash out on em
It does increase the appeal of competitive play, which wizards seems to want.
Anyone else getting a bit excited for the allies? Rally is basicly constellation.
This is kinda annoying, part of the fun of playing standard is value trading and speculating.
Not it's like oh...
.05 - 4$
Not fun at all.
{siege rhino} should be way more valuable
Does anyone get the feeling that the uncommons feel way better than most of the rares?
Anyway I really like skyrider elf
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 10, 2015, 10:00:27 AM
Does anyone get the feeling that the uncommons feel way better than most of the rares?
Anyway I really like skyrider elf
I have been feeling that way myself.
That elf is pretty solid. A 2/2 flyer for GU is nice, ability to give him more mana of different colors to make him bigger? Very nice.
Quote from: Noblellama on September 10, 2015, 09:41:45 AM
What if...?
What if wizards showed us the fetches and shocks as a tease to make us buy tons of battle for zendikar only to not put them in until the next set?
They never said which cycle would be in which set, only that they were spoiled for expeditions, a collector set that would be split across 2 expansions...
He said 25 in this set and 15 in the next. This is what I got from the video from pax
A few more goodies were spoiled. Another green mythic and a mythic eldrazi. And that {Misty Rainforest} artwork :D
Quote from: Noblellama on September 10, 2015, 12:44:47 PM
Oh Hedron Network, you so silly...
I would like to know what you guys/gals think of Hedron Network.
Link for reference: http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/hedronnetwork.html
Any particular usefulness?
Quote from: Deebiia on September 10, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on September 10, 2015, 12:44:47 PM
Oh Hedron Network, you so silly...
I would like to know what you guys/gals think of Hedron Network.
Link for reference: http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/hedronnetwork.html
Any particular usefulness?
Summon creatures with good etb. Then summon this guy then sac him.
Seems really really good
1 power too high
Quote from: bravado883 on September 10, 2015, 09:46:42 AM
{Felidar Sovereign} reprint. Sweet.
From a mythic rare to a rare
$2 pre order
Hope you weren't holding on to that card for value
{Hedron Network} seems weird. It doesn't bounce {Seige Rhino} but that might be better in the long run as three+ value card combos don't get far often. I honestly don't know where it will go. Sideboard mass Eldrazi "nope" button? Push mono red and white weenies through some late game stuff? Seems like a bad {Detention Sphere} that could be better but would rather catch everything. If it was "when enters exile all creatures" we'd be in business.
Verdict: mediocre. Pretty viable EDH card.
Why does {Felidar Sovereign} come in when {Sunbond} and {Ajani's Pridemate} rotate out? D: At least maybe now I can get one.
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 10, 2015, 03:23:34 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 10, 2015, 03:14:53 AM
Lots spec say this is the sealed product to hold on to
Can imagine. Uncracked it has the potential for any full art expedition. Lottery appeal. Pretty much like the treasure packs a LGS in our country made. Entire revised set including P9, and other "goodies" randomly packed. Bought two, got pretty much junk. (Best value? I think that'd be Russian {hollow dogs}). So: closed it COULD contain a {black lotus} Revised, now, it's a collection of junk.
So sealed boxes will end up being worthh more than the opened boxes?
Yes
So should i keep an english box sealed, or a foreign box sealed
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 10, 2015, 08:49:59 PM
So should i keep an english box sealed, or a foreign box sealed
What language are we talking foreign wise?
Most likely russian
Nah open those immediately to sell on singles hype
Since chase lands are in English it'll be best to buy a box to save when oath comes out or whenever it's at its lowest
^that makes sense :)
Open a foil gideon and sell for profit :
👌🏽
I need yall to tell me not to open a case, because in my mind I think I can move the singles fast enough
I mean khans didn't drop until fate came out
Wingmate was 17 for a while
I mean open a case for $600
Pull 1 chase land. (Maybe) @ 120-200
Pull 1 mythic foil
6 rare foils
Foil full art basic lands
Full art basics
Chase mythics and rares - the more opened the less value
Rest is bulk
So gotta ask is that worth $600 or more if you're looking to profit on a case
Quote from: Potticus on September 11, 2015, 01:04:39 AM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 11, 2015, 12:07:45 AM
I mean open a case for $600
Pull 1 chase land. (Maybe) @ 120-200
Pull 1 mythic foil
6 rare foils
Foil full art basic lands
Full art basics
Chase mythics and rares - the more opened the less value
Rest is bulk
So gotta ask is that worth $600 or more if you're looking to profit on a case
Misty Rainforest and Flooded Strand will be $250 AT MINIMUM on launch, with a realistic price range of $400-500.
All the fetches will be worth $200+ the crappy tango lands will probably be $100-200 depending on color. You guys are seriously underestimating the pricing of these. My friends who are foil collectors of high end stuff are preparing on paying $2000 for a playset of Misty Rainforst and Flooded Strands
:o
Quote from: Deebiia on September 10, 2015, 12:55:33 PM
Quote from: Noblellama on September 10, 2015, 12:44:47 PM
Oh Hedron Network, you so silly...
I would like to know what you guys/gals think of Hedron Network.
Link for reference: http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/hedronnetwork.html
Any particular usefulness?
Thinking of a way to abuse with {worldgorger dragon} in EDH.
Drop gorger, exile all your stuff, drop network, get your stuff back, exile all over P5.
Now to give EVERY creature P5+...
Oh, yeah, and shut down Mayael. That's a use ;)
{Sylvan Scrying} getting a reprint
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 11, 2015, 10:39:13 AM
{Sylvan Scrying} getting a reprint
After I spend $20 for my Tron set lol :'(
Yay a bad red mythic
But holy cow that red blue sorcery is the jam
What's with all of these terrible mythic Phoenixs
Quote from: bravado883 on September 11, 2015, 11:32:19 AM
It's an instant. And, yeah, it's wonderful. Refreshing on SCG now to preorder cheap. Remand/Unsummon + Magma Spray? That get's around protection and uncounterable stuff? Cost reduction with {Herald of Kozilek}? Exiles stuff for Processors? Literally hits every box on the checklist of awesome.
Does it have legs against {Kolaghans Command} however?
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 11, 2015, 12:29:02 PM
Have phoenix ever been "good"??? I've yet to see one that has been great except "Chandra phoenix". Side note, new {awakening zone} for 4 that makes 1/1 and be sac to fetch an eldrazi. Hmmmm....
{mutavault}.
What's the point of a card being mythic if no one wants to play it...
Oooh were Gunna make this card harder to get... But.... It's something no one wants anyways ooooooohh
At least secret rares in yugioh are usually pretty good if not extremely valuable.
Agreed
Quote from: Taysby on September 11, 2015, 01:28:10 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 11, 2015, 12:51:12 PM
What's the point of a card being mythic if no one wants to play it...
Oooh were Gunna make this card harder to get... But.... It's something no one wants anyways ooooooohh
At least secret rares in yugioh are usually pretty good if not extremely valuable.
Because of the limited environment.
Fine, but that really really makes mythic rare kind of stupid imo
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 06, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
With this being the first 2 block set.
So my speculations for battle for zendikar block include the following:
Enemy fetches
Eldrazi
Full art lands
4 planeswalkers -
Nissa
Ugin
Sorin
Nahiri
Looking back, dead on except for the walkers.
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 12, 2015, 04:50:07 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 06, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
With this being the first 2 block set.
So my speculations for battle for zendikar block include the following:
Enemy fetches
Eldrazi
Full art lands
4 planeswalkers -
Nissa
Ugin
Sorin
Nahiri
Looking back, dead on except for the walkers.
To be fair, Zendikar having Eldrazi and Full art Lands (and the name being BATTLE for Zendikar) is a given. The Enemy Fetches is a debatable thing as they aren't a part of the actual sets, but a promotional thing. And you at least got some of the walkers right.
Does anyone else want {dispel} back...
I would love Dispel back!
We seem to be lacking some blue counters
Quote from: Remillo on September 12, 2015, 09:25:55 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 12, 2015, 04:50:07 AM
Quote from: Avnger345 on March 06, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
With this being the first 2 block set.
So my speculations for battle for zendikar block include the following:
Enemy fetches
Eldrazi
Full art lands
4 planeswalkers -
Nissa
Ugin
Sorin
Nahiri
Looking back, dead on except for the walkers.
To be fair, Zendikar having Eldrazi and Full art Lands (and the name being BATTLE for Zendikar) is a given. The Enemy Fetches is a debatable thing as they aren't a part of the actual sets, but a promotional thing. And you at least got some of the walkers right.
It wasn't my call, but the walkers are Gideon, Ob and Kiora right? The mentioned ones pop in gatewatch if I'm not mistaken.
And yeah, strictly no fetches reprinted except for the promo's. However, I feel MaRo manipulated quite a bit when he claimed no fetches..
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 13, 2015, 12:28:19 AM
We seem to be lacking some blue counters
We do still have a lot though.
{negate}
{clash of wills}
{silumagar scorn}
{contradict}
{subborn denial}
{cancel}
{bone to ash}
I think i am missing some still. One that is like, counter unless they pay 3. But I will miss dissipate.
Basically only real counter we get is cancel? Kind of weak
Dissipate and dissolve going out are pretty weak
We will get something better than that tbh I can see a dissolve reprint now that scry is evergreen
Anyone know when the full list of cards will be spoiled?
So on friday?
{Dissipate}
Quote from: bravado883 on September 13, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
I saw on MTGsalvation.com that we're getting:
{1}{U}{U}: Counter target spell.
Awaken 3--{4}{U}{U}
Unconfirmed but certainly seems plausible. Pretty good if true.
I'm not a big fan of the awaken ability, a simple creature wipe will wipe your mana base as you turn it into creatures. Still can't get over how bad that new downfall is
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 13, 2015, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: bravado883 on September 13, 2015, 06:46:07 PM
I saw on MTGsalvation.com that we're getting:
{1}{U}{U}: Counter target spell.
Awaken 3--{4}{U}{U}
Unconfirmed but certainly seems plausible. Pretty good if true.
I'm not a big fan of the awaken ability, a simple creature wipe will wipe your mana base as you turn it into creatures. Still can't get over how bad that new downfall is
Hoping {Terra Eternal} gets reprinted in that case :p
seeing how this set is developing:
no inquistion of kozilek most likely
no goblin guide most likely
no celestial mantle(?)
im sure terra eternal would be too OP, unless they make more exile spells
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 14, 2015, 01:56:21 AM
seeing how this set is developing:
no inquistion of kozilek most likely
no goblin guide most likely
no celestial mantle(?)
im sure terra eternal would be too OP, unless they make more exile spells
I don't play standard, but I think a lot of the Awaken costs are way too high for {Terra Eternal} to be OP. On the other hand.... Casual {Terra Eternal} with Awaken spells.......... Mmmm. Smells like a stupid gimmick deck waiting to happen.
Ninja Edit: Err.... Nissa's ult would be OP. Understood now.
With how they want to slow the format down, and seeing what cards are being printed, it just seems like these classic "THEY WILL REPRINT FOR SURE" seems inaccurate now for a lot of items.
Yay another awful rare!
{sign in blood} is better than that crap
And if not {night's whisper} is
i know its too much to ask or to expect but i remember journey into nyx expansion have god packs
was thinking if there will be god packs for fetches or god packs for shocks
{Dragonmaster Outcast} reprint
Quote from: bravado883 on September 14, 2015, 09:20:21 AM
Wow...Crumble to Dust. {Sowing Salt} reprint with Devoid (and at {3}{R}).
So pissed! My 2 modern decks ... Tron and Scapeshift :'(
A Legendary U/W merfolk just spoiled ( I like this card, not gonna lie) and a new eldrazi spoiled.
NEW ELDRAZI OMG YESSSSS
{Dragonmaster Outcast} reprint is kinda cool.
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 14, 2015, 12:44:10 PM
{Dragonmaster Outcast} reprint is kinda cool.
Totally. Glad you mentioned that.
The lands as always are super nice.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 14, 2015, 03:01:26 PM
I don't think outcasts price is gonna drop much tho
Normally I'd agree with you here. However, when I think about how much this set is going to be opened, it makes me believe otherwise.
Crumble to Dust
3R
Sorcery
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Exile target nonbasic land. Search its controller's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with the same name as that land and exile them. Then that player shuffles his or library.
http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/crumbletodust.html
Woah.....
Quote from: Deebiia on September 14, 2015, 03:25:34 PM
Crumble to Dust
3R
Sorcery
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Exile target nonbasic land. Search its controller's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with the same name as that land and exile them. Then that player shuffles his or library.
http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/crumbletodust.html
Woah.....
Man, I am so excited to play this, targeting Urza's Tower!
Quote from: blackychan1 on September 14, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on September 14, 2015, 03:25:34 PM
Crumble to Dust
3R
Sorcery
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Exile target nonbasic land. Search its controller's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with the same name as that land and exile them. Then that player shuffles his or library.
http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/crumbletodust.html
Woah.....
Man, I am so excited to play this, targeting Urza's Tower!
That's the first thing everyone is thinking I bet.
Quote from: blackychan1 on September 14, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
Quote from: Deebiia on September 14, 2015, 03:25:34 PM
Crumble to Dust
3R
Sorcery
Devoid (This card has no color.)
Exile target nonbasic land. Search its controller's graveyard, hand, and library for any number of cards with the same name as that land and exile them. Then that player shuffles his or library.
http://mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/crumbletodust.html
Woah.....
Man, I am so excited to play this, targeting Urza's Tower!
{Sowing salt} is kind of bad against tron. It's possible tron plays it because it can be hit by stirrings and will replace every instance of sowing salt in modern but I don't think this will see much play
Buy a case, pick from them randomly don't stop till you hit the chase land.
Save the rest
There are few good rares.. I kinda liked journey to nyx better
At least there are 162 cards left that have not been spoiled
Buy my Russian box
Crack
Sell staples
Hopefully open a chase card
Foil Russian basic full sets :)
Maybe an expedition card, not gonna spend $600 on a case to potentially open one up
Quote from: Potticus on September 14, 2015, 07:16:30 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 14, 2015, 07:03:11 PM
Buy my Russian box
Crack
Sell staples
Hopefully open a chase card
Foil Russian basic full sets :)
Maybe an expedition card, not gonna spend $600 on a case to potentially open one up
Or open that lag land and cry
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 14, 2015, 07:24:05 PM
Quote from: Potticus on September 14, 2015, 07:16:30 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 14, 2015, 07:03:11 PM
Buy my Russian box
Crack
Sell staples
Hopefully open a chase card
Foil Russian basic full sets :)
Maybe an expedition card, not gonna spend $600 on a case to potentially open one up
Or open that discount DAAAAAA-ble check land and cry
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 14, 2015, 07:49:47 PM
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 14, 2015, 07:31:12 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 14, 2015, 07:24:05 PM
Quote from: Potticus on September 14, 2015, 07:16:30 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 14, 2015, 07:03:11 PM
Buy my Russian box
Crack
Sell staples
Hopefully open a chase card
Foil Russian basic full sets :)
Maybe an expedition card, not gonna spend $600 on a case to potentially open one up
Or open that slow lagging discount tango land and cry
Just buy the set
eBay item number
121755950748
{Horribly Awry} 😀
{Spawning Bed}😐
I would have said that it was really good, if it didn't say creature...
Quote from: Noblellama on September 14, 2015, 12:41:18 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 14, 2015, 11:10:29 AM
A Legendary U/W merfolk just spoiled ( I like this card, not gonna lie) and a new eldrazi spoiled.
That merfolk, holy cow
So many possibilities
That Merfolk + {Jeskai Ascendancy} is happening
(http://i.imgur.com/HfMCKqJ.png)
Ugins insight possibly foreshadowing the other two eldrazi titans and Ugin for the next set?
The flavor text makes me so excited for the story of how it all plays out. I need to know what the other two are up to!!!
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 15, 2015, 03:25:06 PM
Now... when I read that I completely took it in a different interpretation. I thought Ulamog ate the other 2. So instead of Ugin warning them about the other 2, he meant it along the lines of there WERE 3, now there is one... meaning that it's possible to kill them and therefore not to lose hope
Or he's telling Jace "Yo, there were two more back when I first had to deal with them, don't talk to me about how powerful just Ulamog is."
But then again, Jace tried to square off against Emrakul back in original Zendi block, didn't he?
Fml at me Counterspell I mean it's solid but I already miss dissolve :'(
Spoiled over on Twitter:
Scour from Existence {7}
Instant (Common)
Exile Target Permanent.
Limited is going to be hilarious.
^is that a joke?
Put that in the LRR strictly worse cube
Quote from: Popper23345 on September 15, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
^is that a joke?
Put that in the LRR strictly worse cube
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CO-LmCiWUAEzV1J.png)
Slow slow standard
Rare cancel
That's stupid
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 15, 2015, 07:20:10 PM
Rare cancel
That's stupid
I'm so pissed!! I mean it's all we get and 6 mana counter a spell I make a creature is kinda cool but it's not a good card :(
More evidence of Slow Standard?
(http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/blightedcataract.jpg)
Blighted Cataract
Land
T: Add 1
5U, T, Sac: Draw 2
Quote from: Remillo on September 15, 2015, 08:53:56 PM
More evidence of Slow Standard?
(http://www.mythicspoiler.com/bfz/cards/blightedcataract.jpg)
Blighted Cataract
Land
T: Add 1
5U, T, Sac: Draw 2
I actually like that. Sounds awesome in control with {Radiant Fountain} gone.
I think it'll see modern control play its a land that draws 2 ... That's insane!
#{desolatelighthouse}
#6cmctoohigh
#standardcardforsure
Can we talk about {Quarantine Field}? I sort of love it in EDH. Although I sort of don't. Someone help.
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 15, 2015, 07:56:42 PM
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 15, 2015, 07:20:10 PM
Rare cancel
That's stupid
I'm so pissed!! I mean it's all we get and 6 mana counter a spell I make a creature is kinda cool but it's not a good card :(
Waste your mana over a cAncel war
wizards does not make good counterspells anymore......period
and I am ok with that lol
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 16, 2015, 08:25:55 AM
wizards does not make good counterspells anymore......period
and I am ok with that lol
Lol not okay.
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 16, 2015, 08:25:55 AM
wizards does not make good counterspells anymore......period
and I am ok with that lol
Horribly Awry was almost the best counterspell in Modern. Almost.
Wow...{Drana, Liberator of Malakir}...
Quote from: Noblellama on September 16, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 16, 2015, 10:54:02 AM
Wow...{Drana, Liberator of Malakir}...
little late for those counters...
Benthic Infiltrator looks like fun :)
Devoid 1/4 for {2}{U} and cant be blocked WITH ingest
1st Strike ;)
Complete disregard looks fun
{Beastcaller Expert}... there's the creature ramp
Rattleclaw
This is fun:
Part the Water Veil 4UU
Sorcery
Take an extra turn after this one. Exile Part the Water Veil.
Awaken 6 - 6UUU
Love taking extra turns
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 17, 2015, 08:50:35 AM
Just realized something...
Ula, Emeria, and Cosi the 3 gods of Zendikar that the Merfolk and Kor follow are namef after the 3 Eldrazi gods... flavorrrrr
Ula - ulamog
Emeria - Emrakul
Cosi - Kozilek
Edit: Shrine of the Forsaken God's literally says this exact thing... but I didn't know that hahahaha
That's old news bro!!! lol
Nahiri was pissed when she found out zendikar was worshipping them lol
Sire of stagnation
New eldrazi mythic
4UB
Reverse landfall they exile 2 you draw 2
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on September 17, 2015, 11:02:32 AM
Sire of stagnation
New eldrazi mythic
4UB
Reverse landfall they exile 2 you draw 2
Nice. Fight the fetches! Though he might come a bit late for that...
He's still gonna find a slot in my {Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker}-EDH.
Those Expedition lands...wowowowow
FML!!! They released all the art to the shocks/fetches and .love. me they look gorgeous!! So much for saving money ....
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 17, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
FML!!! They released all the art to the shocks/fetches and .love. me they look gorgeous!! So much for saving money ....
They look sooooooo good *throws money at computer screen*
The foothills 😻💸💸💸💸💸
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 17, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 17, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
FML!!! They released all the art to the shocks/fetches and .love. me they look gorgeous!! So much for saving money ....
They look sooooooo good *throws money at computer screen*
I've gotta say I never really understood the whole full art blah, but I find myself in love with these.
Which gets me thinking, was there a set before Zendikar with full arts, because I think I remember a beautiful forest I had.. Could it be Un-series or starter series?
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 17, 2015, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 17, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 17, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
FML!!! They released all the art to the shocks/fetches and .love. me they look gorgeous!! So much for saving money ....
They look sooooooo good *throws money at computer screen*
I've gotta say I never really understood the whole full art blah, but I find myself in love with these.
Which gets me thinking, was there a set before Zendikar with full arts, because I think I remember a beautiful forest I had.. Could it be Un-series or starter series?
There's this: http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=35004
And this:
http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=14608
Quote from: particle on September 17, 2015, 04:19:10 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 17, 2015, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 17, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 17, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
FML!!! They released all the art to the shocks/fetches and .love. me they look gorgeous!! So much for saving money ....
They look sooooooo good *throws money at computer screen*
I've gotta say I never really understood the whole full art blah, but I find myself in love with these.
Which gets me thinking, was there a set before Zendikar with full arts, because I think I remember a beautiful forest I had.. Could it be Un-series or starter series?
There's this: http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=35004
And this:
http://sales.starcitygames.com/carddisplay.php?product=14608
Unglued
Quote from: Estel2931 on September 17, 2015, 12:14:35 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 17, 2015, 12:11:32 PM
FML!!! They released all the art to the shocks/fetches and .love. me they look gorgeous!! So much for saving money ....
They look sooooooo good *throws money at computer screen*
*throws bank account at computer screen* LOVE THEM, especially that {Scalding Tarn}...
I'm really disappointed with this set. I think it's mostly crap, with no good reprints.
The land in your gravitar is reprinted
Ok I'm excited about that lol but the rest is kind of meh.
Edh playable angel spoiled.
Aka junk rare
Ooo ooo
Fetch and get a plains
2 fer 1!
....... Gosh dang it
-First time in zendikar
-A plane of treasures
-All junk rares
Play plains. Get fetch into play, get something else into hand. Crack fetch, get plains, get something else into field.
So bad.
Quote from: griffin131 on September 18, 2015, 10:49:19 AM
Play plains. Get fetch into play, get something else into hand. Crack fetch, get plains, get something else into field.
So bad.
Pull all the lands!!
Looks like full spoilers are out
Looks like we get {Dispel} back
But that {bane of bala ged}. Annihilator is basically back. Except it exiles.
I really hope that I'm wrong but this set looks awful in constructed. Obviously there's a few cards that stand out as awesome sauce but the majority of this set looks unplayable :( but then again I'm awful at evaluating cards lol
Full spoilers out now
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 18, 2015, 12:11:41 PM
I really hope that I'm wrong but this set looks awful in constructed. Obviously there's a few cards that stand out as awesome sauce but the majority of this set looks unplayable :( but then again I'm awful at evaluating cards lol
Usually spoilers excite me, and all I play is standard. This set is incredibly bad
Their like, let's get all these crap ideas out now while We have chase cards because we'll sell it anyway
Agreed! I mean the power level on these cards are so disappointing!
No instant draw spells. No 1R 2 damage spells.
I hope I'm wrong but this will be Khand block constructed with lands for BFZ lol
Battle for mehdiokar
Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 18, 2015, 01:57:08 PM
Battle for mehdiokar
I hate being negative about a new set cuz they put a lot into bringing us new stuff and they keep the game fresh.
However, yea that is a true statement Muggs
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 18, 2015, 06:30:25 PM
{Emeria Shepard} and {Sakura-tribe elder} infinite :-) soooooo that's a new edh thing. All edh run Steve anyway, so I'm sure Emeria will be a new include
As long as you're finding Plains (or have Prismatic Omen)
So, tron gets a common colorless exile spell?
{7}: exile target permanent.
??
Quote from: Kaylesh on September 19, 2015, 08:37:08 AM
So, tron gets a common colorless exile spell?
{7}: exile target permanent.
??
Honestly that's the only spell I actually considered for Tron. It's just Karns -3 but instant speed and can 2 for 1 Twin :D it'd be a 1-of but it seems good I just don't know how good!
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 19, 2015, 09:08:31 AM
Haha I love how 90% of these 7 drop eldrazi cards people are like... could be good for tron. It's like 7 is the magical number that determines trons approval.
Tron = 7 after all :)
Tron = 7 ?
Tron has 4 letters in it
Which means tron = 4
So by using the communitive property 7 = 4
Now take the equal sign and make the lines one line ( = becomes - )
Which makes 7 = 4 become 7 - 4
And 7 - 4 equals 3
How many sides are there on a triangle?
Alluminatti confirmed
HalfLife 3 confirmed.
Popper you revealed our secret prepare to be {Terminated}
Quote from: Mattao19 on September 19, 2015, 11:42:58 AM
Popper you revealed our secret prepare to be {Terminated}
Not before i {redirect} that threat back to you
Unstickied?
Yea, the set is completely spoiled, so there isnt a need for it to be stickies anymore
Okay? This set kinda sucks. Not to be negative but it looks like garbage. Those chase fetches are going to go through the roof thanks to this crappy set.
Yep. So many people talking about buying boxes/cases last night.
Any sleepers you guys are noticing? Foil commons can be good pick ups early. For example {gurmag angler} foil was under $1 before peeps realized it was awesome in modern
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 19, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
Any sleepers you guys are noticing? Foil commons can be good pick ups early. For example {gurmag angler} foil was under $1 before peeps realized it was awesome in modern
Strictly because it's not legendary?
it's hard to kill a 5/5 that you potentially play for 1 with delve
Legacy and modern play
Turn 2 5/5 for 1.
Fetch, {Thought Scour}.
Fetch, {Thought Scour}, {Gurmag Angler}.
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 19, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
Any sleepers you guys are noticing? Foil commons can be good pick ups early. For example {gurmag angler} foil was under $1 before peeps realized it was awesome in modern
Off the top of my head I'd say {Crumble to Dust}, {Scour from Existence} and {Titan's Presence} are the chase commons/uncommons.{Scour from Existence} especially.
There is /a lot/ of exile in this set.
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 19, 2015, 04:18:18 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on September 19, 2015, 03:18:41 PM
Any sleepers you guys are noticing? Foil commons can be good pick ups early. For example {gurmag angler} foil was under $1 before peeps realized it was awesome in modern
Off the top of my head I'd say {Crumble to Dust}, {Scour from Existence} and {Titan's Presence} are the chase commons/uncommons.{Scour from Existence} especially.
There is /a lot/ of exile in this set.
Also {Retreat to Coralhelm} will be a chase uncommon. I imagine foils will be pricey since it combos with {Knight of the Reliquary}. People already discovered this so not much money to be made speculating , just hope that you're lucky ;)
Quote from: GlowackAttack on September 21, 2015, 02:50:49 PM
Is anybody else disappointed in all the computer animated artwork that wizards has been doing lately? Is this gonna turn into Pokémon where every single card is CGI?
Not disappointed, but I do dislike that all of the art is digital. It is probably inexpensive to do versus the old art, so I can understand it.
BFZ list updated but links from curly brackets need to be updated too