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Title: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 07, 2014, 03:26:14 PM
Hey guys,

So I bought two Battle the Horde decks from Game Day and combined them into a 100-card EDH Horde deck. I'm still working on the rules, but it's been more fun than just fishbowling. I also proxied together a planar deck designed for EDH games. So I've been thinking: What if we smash these game types together into one zany co-op game?

For those who do not know Planechase rules, each player has a planar die that they may roll at sorcery speed. The first roll is free, then the next ones cost 1 more for each time the die was rolled previously. If you roll the chaos symbol, the current plane's chaos ability is triggered. If you roll the planeswalker symbol, the current plane is put on the bottom of the planar deck, and the top card is flipped. If you do not own a planar die, you can ask me to do the rolls for you.

Now, with the Horde, you can use up to three Hero cards. I have proxied them all, so if you're interested in using them, ask me and I will post them all. Normally, everyone would take their turns simultaneously, but for the purposes of the forum, we're going to have to have some form of turn order unless we can work out simultaneity. We take three turns before the horde takes its first turn. If the horde would lose life, it mills that many cards. You can target the horde with spells and abilities, even before it takes a turn. Normally, at the beginning of the horde's precombat main phase, it reveals its top two cards and casts them, but I had to adjust this for EDH. I'll go over house rules later. You make all choices for the horde if it must make a decision. Ignore effects that cause impossible actions for the horde like drawing cards. And if a horde permanent would go anywhere except its library or graveyard, the cards are put into the horde's graveyard. We win when there are no more minotaurs under the horde's control and there are no cards in its library.

Now for house rules. I've been testing the format by revealing four to five cards, but I'm thinking for more players, I might go back to the old horde rules of revealing until you hit a non-Minotaur. I'll let people decide on that. The horde counts as a player for most global effects. For example, if a {Grave Pact} is out and the Grave Pact's controller's creature dies, the horde has to sacrifice a creature, too. Horde cards are colorless, as far as I know, meaning {All Is Dust} is useless. The Horde has infinite mana, so cards like {Propaganda} don't work. For cards like {Mind Grind}, each Minotaur counts as a land. However, they cannot be searched with land-searching cards.

For other rules concerns, ask me. If we can't figure out what the card will do, you can cycle it. (For example, I still don't know if the horde can pay life for Killing Wave.)

Phew. That was a mouthful. So, anyone want to try something a little different? I'm playing {Karador, Ghost Chieftain}.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 07, 2014, 04:53:35 PM
il play. this is my first wall game so if i do something wrong i appologize in advance. im playing a {Vish Kal, Blood Arbiter} deck
how many players r u looking for. what do i use for a planar die  because i don't have a planar die so do i just use a regular d6 and only count certain numbers
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 07, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
You can use a regular d6 using 1 as Chaos and 6 as Planeswalk, or vice versa. It doesn't matter what you do as long as the two symbols are on opposite sides of the die. Also, I'm hoping for maybe four players, but fewer is acceptable. I'll have to see what my family is doing about dinner tonight, so that may delay things a bit.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 07, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
ok so how many people are u looking for to start
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 07, 2014, 06:10:46 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 07, 2014, 05:46:39 PM
ok so how many people are u looking for to start
Hopefully 4, but that's optimistic. I can do fewer.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 07, 2014, 06:13:47 PM
pm me when we get enough players
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 07, 2014, 10:12:01 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 07, 2014, 06:13:47 PM
pm me when we get enough players
I'll wait until tomorrow to start, see if anyone else wants to join. We'll start then.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 07:11:41 AM
is iona alowed in this game or do i need to switch her out for something else.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 11:08:38 AM
Quote from: Taysby on March 08, 2014, 12:32:46 AM
The minotaurs are red.  It says so on the playmat.
Huh. I guess I missed that. I skipped right to the special rules.

As for Iona, you can play her if you want, but it will lead to a boring match if you do. I'll allow it, but depending on how you feel, you can cycle her if you want.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 11:33:18 AM
I guess I'm willing to start now. Do you want to use Hero cards?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 11:52:14 AM
what are the hero cards. i have never played a game of horde or planechase. but im ready to play. as for iona il keep her but i wont pick the colors of the deck because she one of my best cards even without the ability. i am ready to start but i can only play for about an hour and a half because im going to see the new 300 movie so i might need to take a break if we dont have it finished by then.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 11:58:03 AM
Okay. I guess we'll play without the hero cards. It'll make things faster, and slightly more difficult for us. I guess we'll have the Minotaurs reveal the top 5 of their library on their turn?

Also, we need to resolve mulligans before revealing the first plane. I guess I'll take first go, to show you how things work. Should we have a combined life total of 40, or 40 a piece?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 11:59:42 AM
40 each and do you count as an opponent
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 11:59:42 AM
40 each and do you count as an opponent
No. We're all on the same team. Also, partial paris mulligans are allowed, one free, since this is casual.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 12:03:58 PM
im keeping my hand
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:16:31 PM
I will mulligan three cards, draw three, then keep.

Our starting plane is... Tazeem.

Tazeem's effects:
"Creatures can't block."

"Whenever you roll chaos, draw a card for each land you control."

Well, this could be problematic.

I'll take my turn, then you take yours.

UT, UK, skip draw (I assume).

Roll the planar die. Get a blank. Play a {Plains}, tap it to roll the planar die again. Roll a Planeswalk. We be walkin' to... Astral Arena.

Astral Arena's effects:
"No more than one creature can attack each combat."

"No more than one creature can block each combat."

"Whenever you roll chaos, Astral Arena deals 2 damage to each creature."

This is a little better.

Pass turn. 40 life, 6 in hand.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 12:19:23 PM
ut uk draw
swamp into {sol ring} into {leaden myr} pass

40/5
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:20:05 PM
You want to roll the planar die, or no?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 12:21:13 PM
opps ya it was a blank
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:23:51 PM
End of first turn cycle before the horde attacks.

UT UK draw

Roll planar die. Get a blank. Tap {Plains} to roll again. Blank. Play {Murmuring Bosk} tapped.

Pass. 40/6
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 12:29:11 PM
ut uk draw
planer die planeswalk.do i wait or keep playing

the rest of my turn is
plains tap sol and myr for 5 to play {pyxis of pandemonium} and {quicksilver amulet} pass

40/3
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:35:10 PM
And the plane we're walking to is... Stensia.

Stensia's effects:
"Whenever a creature deals damage to one or more players for the first time in a turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it."

"Whenever you roll chaos, each creature you control gains "{T}: This creature deals 1 damage to target player" until end of turn."

I presume that doesn't change your play?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 12:36:27 PM
no it doesnt change it
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 12:42:33 PM
End of second turn cycle before the horde attacks.

UT UK draw.

Roll planar die. Get blank. Play {Overgrown Tomb}, shocking myself for 2. Tap {Plains}, {Overgrown Tomb} for {B}, and {Murmuring Bosk} for {B}, pinging myself for 1, to Transmute {Dimir House Guard}, searching for {Solemn Simulacrum}.

Pass. 37/6
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 12:51:48 PM
eot tap pyxis exile top card

ut uk draw tap pyxis again
swamp tap swampx2 and sol ring to play {diabolic tutor} tap myr and plains for {armillitary sphere} pass
not rolling planer die. i like this one
40/2
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 01:00:00 PM
K. Since I don't think anything the horde controls can get exiled, I'll simply mill it for 2. I'll get around to the results later. I'm taking a trip to my LGS.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 01:01:31 PM
ok
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
im back from the movie an ready to play whenever you are
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Splicer on March 08, 2014, 06:06:03 PM
Can I play next game? If yes, do I need my own planar deck?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 08, 2014, 06:21:48 PM
i would like to play again with heros next time
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 08, 2014, 07:55:43 PM
May I join next time?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 08, 2014, 08:21:36 PM
Absolutely, you all can join. And no, you don't need your own planar deck. I've got a 40 card central planar deck.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Splicer on March 08, 2014, 10:09:28 PM
Cool, thanks.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 01:58:38 PM
From Pyxis, the Horde mills Massacre Totem and Minotaur Goreseeker.

Massacre Totem
Artifact
At the beginning of the Horde's precombat main phase, reveal an additional card from the top of the Horde's library. The Horde casts that card.

Hero's Reward—When Massacre Totem is put into a graveyard from anywhere, put the top seven cards of the Horde's library into its graveyard.

Minotaur Goreseeker
Creature—Minotaur
Haste

Minotaur Goreseeker attacks each turn if able.

3/2

The Horde mills seven from Massacre Totem.

Of note, it mills Refreshing Elixir, which when put into a graveyard from anywhere, gives 5 life to each player.

42/6

Here comes the Horde...

The top five cards it reveals are Minotaur Goreseeker, Minotaur Younghorn, Altar of Mogis, Touch of the Horned God, and Unquenchable Fury.

Minotaur Younghorn
Creature—Minotaur
Haste

Minotaur Younghorn attacks each turn if able.

2/2

Altar of Mogis
Artifact
At the beginning of the Horde's precombat main phase, reveal an additional card from the top of the Horde's library. The Horde casts that card.

Hero's Reward—When Altar of Mogis is put into a graveyard from anywhere, the Horde sacrifices two Minotaurs.

Touch of the Horned God
Sorcery
Whenever a Minotaur attacks this turn, it gains deathtouch until end of turn.

Unquenchable Fury
Sorcery
Each Minotaur can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.

And now the Horde swings. I think it would be better for us if Goreseeker attacks you and Younghorn attacks me. What do you think? Also, keep in mind that because of Stensia, the Minotaurs will get +1/+1 counters once they connect.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
il take whatever you want me to im playing lifegain

you typed one of them as a 42/6 is that a typo
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 02:09:50 PM
Awesome. You take three and I'll take two.

40/6

Goreseeker and Younghorn get +1/+1 counters.

Minotaurs end.

UT UK draw.

Roll planar die. Get a blank. Play {Temple of the False God}, which is dead at the moment. I'd rather keep my mana open.

Pass. 40/6
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 02:16:40 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
il take whatever you want me to im playing lifegain

you typed one of them as a 42/6 is that a typo

No. That was my life total after the elixir.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:19:29 PM
ut uk draw
tap sol ring fo sphere getting swamp and plains playing plains tap swampx2 plainsx2 for amulet drop {mikaeus the unhallowed} tap pyxis pass
37/3
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 02:30:39 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:19:29 PM
ut uk draw
tap sol ring fo sphere getting swamp and plains playing plains tap swampx2 plainsx2 for amulet drop {mikaeus the unhallowed} tap pyxis pass
37/3

You're actually at 42/3 because of the Elixir. We both gain 5 life from it.

The Horde mills another Goreseeker from Pyxis.

The Horde reveals 2 Goreseekers, 1 Younghorn, 2 Unquenchable Fury, and a Phoberos Reaver.

Phoberos Reaver
Creature—Minotaur
Haste

Phoberos Reaver attacks each turn if able.

2/3

I think I'll send the Younghorn with the +1/+1 counter and two Goreseekers at you (one with the +1/+1 counter), and the Phoberos Reaver, the third Goreseeker, and the other Younghorn at me. I'm thinking of casting a {Mercy Killing} on the Goreseeker with the +1/+1 counter to save you from a bit of damage. Do you think I should do that, or hold off? Unblocked, that's 10 damage your way and 7 mine.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
i have most of my combo set up so il just take it
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 02:38:42 PM
K, then. You take 10 and I'll take 7.

33/6

UT, UK, draw.

Roll planar die, get a blank.

I've got nothing that can really help me out, but I do have a {Killing Wave}. The problem is, I don't know how it works with the horde. Does the Horde technically have infinite life, or does it have the choice to not pay for each creature? I'm thinking of cycling it so I might be able to get a land. What do you think?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:40:23 PM
cycle it  i need the horde to have creatures
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:43:19 PM
im giving us back the cards from pyxis next turn because when i tutored the two cards i wanted where not in my deck
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
K. I'll cycle it for {0}. Didn't draw poop. I think I'll tap my {Murmuring Bosk} and {Overgrown Tomb} for {G}, and tap my {Plains} to cast {Eternal Witness}, getting back {Killing Wave}. Cycle {Killing Wave} again for {0}. Not what I need, but at least I have a blocker.

Pass. 33/7.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 02:47:37 PM
ut uk draw
swamp tap mry solring and 2x plains/swamp to sac pyxis
putting {grave pact} {it that betrays} and {rhox faithmender} into play
planar die planeswalk pass
32/3
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 03:07:15 PM
Reveal the cards exiled with Pyxis. {Condemn} stays exiled, but {Bojuka Bog} and a {Forest} comes in. {Bojuka Bog} exiles the Horde's graveyard, though that does nothing because it's just put back in the graveyard.

Now I have enough mana to cast {Mercy Killing} again. I can either force the Horde to sacrifice a Minotaur, or make you sac {Leaden Myr} so everyone sacs and you still get a Minotaur plus Elf Warrior tokens.

The horde reveals 6 cards. 2 Goreseeker, 2 Plundered Statue, 1 Refreshing Elixir, and 1 Consuming Rage.

Plundered Statue
Artifact
At the beginning of the Horde's precombat main phase, reveal an additional card from the top of the Horde's library. The Horde casts that card.

Hero's Reward—When Plundered Statue is put into a graveyard from anywhere, each player draws a card.

Refreshing Elixir
Artifact
At the beginning of the Horde's precombat main phase, reveal an additional card from the top of the Horde's library. The Horde casts that card.

Hero's Reward—When Refreshing Elixir is put into a graveyard from anywhere, each player gains 5 life.

Consuming Rage
Sorcery
Whenever a Minotaur attacks this turn, it gets +2/+0 until end of turn. Destroy that creature at end of combat.

How do you think we should distribute the damage? We've got a Goreseeker and a Younghorn with 2 +1/+1 counters on them (5 and 4 power, respectively), a Younghorn, two Goreseekers, and a Phoberos Reaver with 1 counter (3, 4, and 3 power, respectively), and 2 fresh Goreseekers (3 power). And they each get +2/+0, but they all die at the end of combat. Also, remember I have a {Mercy Killing}.

Also, looks like we're planeswalking to... Gavony.

Gavony's effects:
All creatures have vigilance.

Whenever you roll chaos, creatures you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
mercy kill my myr i get it back from mikaeus and i get elf tolken and steal a creature from hord to block and it that betrays can block the biggest one as long as they dont have deathtouch and mika and rhox will block non leathal as well
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
mercy kill my myr i get it back from mikaeus and i get elf tolken and steal a creature from hord to block and it that betrays can block the biggest one as long as they dont have deathtouch and mika and rhox will block non leathal as well

Can do. I will {Mercy Killing} {Leaden Myr}, forcing me to sacrifice my {Eternal Witness} and the Horde to sacrifice the Goreseeker with 2 +1/+1 counters on it, giving that Goreseeker to you. I guess I'll have the Horde swing everything at you. So that's a 6/4, two 6/3s, a 5/4, a 5/3, and two 5/2s at you. I feel like you'll probably survive anyway, but creatures that the Minotaurs kill will be sacrificed anyway, so that sounds like a cool deal.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 03:28:38 PM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 03:13:16 PM
mercy kill my myr i get it back from mikaeus and i get elf tolken and steal a creature from hord to block and it that betrays can block the biggest one as long as they dont have deathtouch and mika and rhox will block non leathal as well

Can do. I will {Mercy Killing} {Leaden Myr}, forcing me to sacrifice my {Eternal Witness} and the Horde to sacrifice the Goreseeker with 2 +1/+1 counters on it, giving that Goreseeker to you. I guess I'll have the Horde swing everything at you. So that's a 6/4, two 6/3s, a 5/4, a 5/3, and two 5/2s at you. I feel like you'll probably survive anyway, but creatures that the Minotaurs kill will be sacrificed anyway, so that sounds like a cool deal.
the elf token and it that betrays block the 6/4 < betrays blocks this one and 6/3 the stolen minotaur blocks the 5/4 and rhox blocks the other 6/3 cuz i get hom back and gain 2 life
so i think if my math is right i lose 8 after gain 2 from rhox
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 03:32:47 PM
Okay, so how many {Grave Pact} triggers do I need to resolve?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 03:34:41 PM
5 in the turn but 4 from blocking. do i get your creatures that you sac
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 03:50:49 PM
No. {It That Betrays} specifies opponents. So you get Minotaurs, but not the {Eternal Witness} I sacrificed earlier.

So it looks like the blocking Goreseeker died, so he undies to the Horde's side. I suppose I'll sac him and three other Goreseekers. You might as well have the most power on the Horde's board.

Now the rest of the Horde is destroyed because it attacked. The Horde's board is now two Plundered Statues (the artifact that draws us a card), one Refreshing Elixir (the artifact that gains us 5 life), and an Altar of Mogis (the artifact that forces the Horde to sacrifice two Minotaurs).

End of the Horde's turn.

UT, UK, draw.
I think I'll tap {Murmuring Bosk} for {W}, pinging me for 1, my {Plains}, and my {Temple of the False God} to cast {Return to Dust} on both Plundered Statues. They go to the graveyard instead of being exiled, so we both get to draw two cards.

Play another {Plains}, tap it, {Forest}, {Bojuka Bog}, and {Overgrown Tomb} for {Solemn Simulacrum}, fetching out a {Swamp} tapped.

Pass. I think Gavony will help with all those Minotaurs you acquired, letting you attack and block with them. It'll also let you attack with {It That Betrays} for a lot, but you will gain control of the artifacts, and if I read them correctly, they don't care whose control they're under to make the Horde cast additional cards. 32/6.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 03:52:20 PM
when a stolen creature dies it gets put back into play under the hordes control
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 03:55:33 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 03:52:20 PM
when a stolen creature dies it gets put back into play under the hordes control
So far as I understand undying, yes. But I made him sacrifice the Minotaur that undied anyway, so you have control of it again. At least, I think you can stack the triggers that way. Have the {Grave Pact} triggers lower on the stack and the Undying triggers higher.

And that's only because you have Mikaeus on the board. Normally, if a stolen Minotaur dies, it just dies.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:01:29 PM
and now the fun begins lol
ut uk draw
{Ancient Tomb} tap tomb and solring and 1plains 2swamp to play {vish kal blood arbiter} then using the myr and swamp/plains to cast {pawn of ulamog} roll planar die blank. how many creatures do you have?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:03:03 PM
Just a {Solemn Simulacrum}. If you're planning on sacrifice shenanigans with {Grave Pact}, I don't mind. Sad Robot lets me draw a card anyway.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:14:35 PM
ok then i sac the strongest minotaur token to vish then sac the next one and the next for ever till vish is about 100/100 and then sac it that betrays after it comes back i sac mika to end the infinite cycle and i get 2 eldrazi spawn from this sac them for mana and play {gold myr}
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:18:49 PM
Holy crap, that does work. At least with {Grave Pact}. Seems like that's game next turn. So are you leaving the Minotaurs under your control, or in the Horde's grave?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:18:57 PM
and i keep the 3 minotaur tokens
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
that is what this deck is built to do steal to infinite and destroy all in sight
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:18:57 PM
and i keep the 3 minotaur tokens
They aren't even tokens. They're actual permanents. Nice work.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:22:17 PM
well in that chase i actualy have leets just say 50 eldrazi spawn tokens because i get one for every nontoken i control dieing so yay land blockers
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:22:52 PM
Should I call it game here, or should we play it out? Not that the Minotaurs stand much of a chance against a 100/100 Vish Kal.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:25:43 PM
well if i block with him i gain 200 heath because of rhox ability so i think we can call it
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:31:52 PM
how many cards were left in the hords deck
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
Seems fine. I'll PM the others to see if they're ready for game 2. Meanwhile, here are the Hero cards we can choose from:

The Philosopher
{2}, {T}: Tap target creature.

The Protector
{T}: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target creature or player this turn.

The Hunter
{T}: Target creature you control gets +1/+1 until end of turn.

The Warrior
{T}: Target creature you control gains haste until end of turn.

The Avenger
{3}, {T}: Target creature you control gains deathtouch until end of turn.

The Harvester
{T}: Draw a card, then discard a card.

The Slayer
You start the game with an additional 7 life.

The General
Exile The General: Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn. Untap them.

The Savant
Exile The Savant: Tap all creatures your opponents control. Those creatures don't untap during their controllers' next untap steps.

The Provider
Exile The Provider: Put two +1/+1 counters on target creature you control. You gain life equal to that creature's toughness.

The Tyrant
Exile The Tyrant: Creatures your opponents control get -1/-1 until end of turn.

The Warmonger
Exile The Warmonger: Creatures you control get +2/+0 and gain haste until end of turn.

The Explorer
You may play an additional land on each of your turns.

The Vanquisher
Your starting hand size is increased by one.
Your maximum hand size is increased by one.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:41:39 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:31:52 PM
how many cards were left in the hords deck
73
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:45:17 PM
i wont use this deck next time as it is to overpowered when i get the many combo out. so il play my {Dromar, the Banisher} deck i dont think that one will be as overpowered as this one is but i havent played it yet so i dont know if it is any good or not. but it should be fun in this format now that we have more players that will help too.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:49:09 PM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:40:41 PM
Seems fine. I'll PM the others to see if they're ready for game 2. Meanwhile, here are the Hero cards we can choose from:

The Philosopher
{2}, {T}: Tap target creature.

The Protector
{T}: Prevent the next 1 damage that would be dealt to target creature or player this turn.

The Hunter
{T}: Target creature you control gets +1/+1 until end of turn.

The Warrior
{T}: Target creature you control gains haste until end of turn.

The Avenger
{3}, {T}: Target creature you control gains deathtouch until end of turn.

The Harvester
{T}: Draw a card, then discard a card.

The Slayer
You start the game with an additional 7 life.

The General
Exile The General: Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn. Untap them.

The Savant
Exile The Savant: Tap all creatures your opponents control. Those creatures don't untap during their controllers' next untap steps.

The Provider
Exile The Provider: Put two +1/+1 counters on target creature you control. You gain life equal to that creature's toughness.

The Tyrant
Exile The Tyrant: Creatures your opponents control get -1/-1 until end of turn.

The Warmonger
Exile The Warmonger: Creatures you control get +2/+0 and gain haste until end of turn.

The Explorer
You may play an additional land on each of your turns.

The Vanquisher
Your starting hand size is increased by one.
Your maximum hand size is increased by one.
does each player get there own hero or is it one for the team? if 1 for the team we should vote on it.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:49:38 PM
Yeah. I'll be playing {Karador} again, but this time I'll start out with The Harvester, The Explorer, and The Vanquisher. The extra card helps get me more land to open up with, The Explorer lets me get to about turn 6 by turn 3, and The Harvester lets me dig through my deck while pitching creatures I need in grave so I can get Karador out sooner.

I also PM'd the others. Hopefully, they'll be ready.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:51:28 PM
And we each get three Heroes, so you can pick whatever. I'm fine with duplicate Heroes, just as long as you remember that you have them.

Also, Heroes are permanents. Remember that, as you can untap them with untap permanent effects.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
I'll play {Progenitus}
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 04:56:16 PM
Can I just play three explorers?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:56:32 PM
I'm fine with you choosing those three. Just remember that you have them, as I don't have duplicate proxies for all of them.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:57:27 PM
Hmm. I never thought about that. I guess I'll just say no, to increase diversity of choices.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 04:58:03 PM
Dangit my deck runs eight creatures
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 04:58:14 PM
ok i choose slayer, explorer, vanquisher
now do i put them on the field at the start of the game or do i play them like the commander
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 04:59:42 PM
Well, if you don't feel like creature buffs, you can always run stuff that affects your opponent's creatures or stuff that buffs yourself.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:00:07 PM
I'll play two explorer and one savant
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:00:18 PM
They start the game on the battlefield.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:01:54 PM
I'm thinking singleton for the Heroes, but that's just me. However, I could make an exception if you really don't feel like running singleton.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:07:06 PM
Please?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:07:41 PM
Okay, I'll allow it.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:08:31 PM
Thank you
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:12:20 PM
So, should we wait for LeavingEden102 or start doing awesomeness? I've already drawn my hand, and it looks awesome.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:13:37 PM
I've drawn mine too
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 05:17:06 PM
iv drawn and am keeping just because it is the most un reasonable thing iv ever drawn an playing extra land each turn make this the best hand ever
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:18:22 PM
I know, right? The Explorer is so OP!
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:19:14 PM
Let's just play.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:20:14 PM
So, should we wait, or start a three player game? Also, how fast should the horde reveal cards? We tried 5 last game, and it may be a little slow for three people.

Scratch that, looks like we're starting. Sorry, LeavingEden. We'll fit you in on the next game.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 05:20:46 PM
turn 3
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:21:07 PM
I don't care my deck is all walkers anyway
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
I meant how many cards. Ah, I guess we'll do 5 a turn and see how badly the Horde gets curb stomped.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:23:42 PM
Ok
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 05:24:25 PM
sounds good
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 05:26:05 PM
this is going to be way to easy though i forgot my hand was op we should play 7-8 cards from hord each turn
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:27:09 PM
Shall we start?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:29:15 PM
And looks like we're starting on... Panopticon! I like this plane.

Panopticon's effects:
When you planeswalk to Panopticon, draw a card.
At the beginning of your draw step, draw an additional card.
Whenever you roll chaos, draw a card.

No one draws a card because of planeswalking to it, because we just start on it.

I guess I will start our turn cycle. UT, UK, skip draw. (I'm sad.)

Tap The Harvester to draw and discard {Harvester of Souls}. And the card I drew makes this hand freaking stupid.

I don't want to roll the planar die, as I like the benefit of drawing more cards during my draw step. So I'll just play a {Godless Shrine} tapped and a Terramorphic Expanse, cracking it for a {Swamp} tapped.

Pass. 40/6
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:30:00 PM
And yeah, I guess we can try seven cards as the speed here.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 05:32:34 PM
draw
{flooded plain} island
pass
47/8
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:36:14 PM
Draw
Island Island {Sulfer Falls}
{Jace Beleren}
+2 Jace. Everyone draw a card.
40/5
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 05:42:06 PM
Hell yeah! Party Jace is busted when the Horde can't draw cards!

UT, UK, draw 2.

Tap The Harvester to draw and discard {Angel of Despair}. Cycle {Killing Wave} for {0} since I still don't know how it works against the horde. This feels like cheating. :)

Play {Forest} and {Bojuka Bog}, targeting the Horde. Tap {Forest} for {Skullclamp}.

Pass. 40/6
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 05:47:18 PM
draw 2
crack flood plain for plains
island swamp
cycle {Addle}{0} pass
discard {baneslayer angel}
pass 47/8
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:47:32 PM
Who's turn is it?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 05:47:51 PM
yours
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 05:57:12 PM
Draw
{Sacred Foundry} shock myself {Sunpetal Grove} {Dragonskull Summit}
{Sorin Lord of Innistrad}
+2 Jace Everyone draw
+1 Sorin 1/1 vampire with Lifelink
38/2
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 06:02:45 PM
UT, UK, draw 2.

Tap The Harvester to draw and discard {Mikaeus, the Unhallowed}. Play {Temple of the False God} and a {Forest}. Tap Temple, {Forest} x2, {Swamp}, {Bojuka Bog}, and {Godless Shrine} to play {Sheoldred, Whispering One}.

Roll planar die just to see what happens. Nothing, actually.

Pass. 40/6.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
draw 2
island plains  tap both for {jace erasure}
tap swamp for {sol ring}
pass 47/7
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 06:13:29 PM
Draw
Forest forest
{garruk caller of beasts}
-3 place down vorinclax.
+2 Jace. Everyone draw
+1 Sorin more vampires
38/1
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 06:27:52 PM
Holy crap, the card I just drew pretty much ends the game come, like, two turns. However, we'll have to play it out because Sheoldred has to survive.

The Horde reveals Descend on the Prey, Consuming Rage, three Minotaur Goreseekers, 1 Reckless Minotaur, and 1 Mogis's Chosen.

Reckless Minotaur
Creature—Minotaur
Haste
~ attacks each turn if able.
At the beginning of the end step, destroy ~.
4/1

Mogis's Chosen
Creature—Minotaur
~ enters the battlefield tapped.
~ attacks each turn if able.
5/4

Minotaur Goreseeker
Creature—Minotaur
Haste
~ attacks each turn if able.
3/2

Consuming Rage
Sorcery
Whenever a Minotaur attacks this turn, it gets +2/+0 until end of turn. Destroy that creature at end of combat.

Descend on the Prey
Sorcery
Whenever a Minotaur attacks this turn, it gains first strike and must be blocked this turn if able.

So how are we going to have these guys swing?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 06:29:58 PM
il take all cuz i have extra 7 and wont need life cus next turn my life total cant change
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 06:30:46 PM
We should have a collective life total
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 06:32:04 PM
tht works to
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 06:32:31 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 06:29:58 PM
il take all cuz i have extra 7 and wont need life cus next turn my life total cant change
okay, I guess I'll send all of them at you. That's 21 coming your way.

All Minotaurs except Mogis's Chosen die, and that ends the turn.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 06:33:49 PM
Actually, if we have a collective life total, we'll have to all block because of Descend on the Prey. In that case, I'll have Sheoldred block one of the Goreseekers so she can survive.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
just use seperate this time and next game we can have collective
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 06:52:34 PM
Who's turn?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 06:52:54 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 06:35:35 PM
just use seperate this time and next game we can have collective
Alright, then. My move.

UT, UK, bring back Mikaeus, draw 2.

Play {Plains} and {Forest}. Tap Temple, plains, and forest for {Heartmender}, and forest x2, swamp, and {Bojuka Bog} for {Greater Good}.

Now to see if I can end it this turn.

Sac {Heartmender} to {Greater Good} enough times to draw most of my deck, trying not to deck myself out. Can't win this turn, but I've got the game winner in my hand now.

Tap {Godless Shrine} for {Sol Ring}. Roll planar die, get a blank. Tap {Sol Ring} to roll again, get chaos. Draw. 1 card left in deck. I need to Planeswalk ASAP so I don't kill myself.

Pass. 40/4, and a ton of cards in grave.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 07:02:31 PM
draw 2 hord mills 2
island plains tap solring and all but 1 island  to play {omniscience} then drop {platinum angel} and {enter the infinite} mill 78 then drop  {Inexorable Tide} and {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} drop well it doesnt really matter till i pop tamiyo and then  {Traumatize} endlessly till the hord is at one card left then play dimir key stone and mill hord for 1 then pass
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 09, 2014, 07:03:11 PM
il sit the next game out though gg guys
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 07:04:20 PM
Walp, that's game on the Horde's upkeep. They have to sac Mogis's Chosen. Go to game three?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 07:05:42 PM
Draw
+2 jace everyone draw
Play {Progenitus}
Play {fervor}
Swing with Progenitus
+the rest of my walkers
38/1
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 07:07:38 PM
Horde's upkeep, sacs Mogis's Chosen, GG.

Game 3, or give it a break for the night?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Sparkle Ninja on March 09, 2014, 07:10:07 PM
Give it a break. I wanna finish my goblin EDH before the next one
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Splicer on March 09, 2014, 07:40:27 PM
I'm ready
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 08:01:02 PM
Maybe tomorrow or we can start later tonight. Eating dinner now.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Splicer on March 09, 2014, 08:14:16 PM
I've got school tomorrow, but I'll be available from 5:00 a.m.-8:00 a.m. and 3:15 p.m.- 9:00 p.m.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 09, 2014, 08:16:52 PM
I'll see if we can get a game started later on tonight. My afternoon on Mondays is usually booked.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
Sorry it took me so long to get an opening. I'm free til around 3 Eastern.

I've been playtesting a bit more and have come to a few conclusions:
1. The Explorer is hella OP for EDH Horde. It allows decks to stabilize too fast for the horde to interact. I think we may have to ban it as a Hero card.
2. Flipping a fixed number of cards is a decent way of doing things, but the original Horde way of flipping until you hit a non-token (in this case, a non-Minotaur) is more unpredictable and generally allows for the horde to swarm at times if it gets too far behind. I haven't tested this method with the full 100 card deck, but it could make for some interesting games, mainly games where the Horde isn't getting curb-stomped all the time.
3. 40 life may be too much. I haven't changed it yet, but there were some games where I stabilized enough to beat the Horde, but if I were at 20 life, I would be dead. The original Horde rules call for 20 collective life, even though it was designed for EDH decks. I'll have to see with coming tests.

So, anyone ready to face the Horde again?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 12:37:35 PM
il play im playing {omnath, locus of mana}
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 12:43:12 PM
Alright. I'll probably play {Karador} again, since that's my favorite deck at the moment. I'll be using The Harvester, The Slayer, and The Vanquisher. You want to wait for anyone else, or should we start a 2 player game?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 12:47:40 PM
il use vanquisher, warmonger, abd provider. let start 2 player
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 01:00:04 PM
Alright then. I'll mulligan 2 cards, then keep.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 01:00:46 PM
i keep
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 01:04:10 PM
forest pass
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 01:07:00 PM
Alright. The Horde has selected its 60 random cards for its library, and we're starting on...

Sokenzan
All creatures get +1/+1 and have haste.

Whenever you roll chaos, untap all creatures that attacked this turn. After this main phase, there is an additional combat phase, followed by an additional main phase.

UT, UK, skip draw.

Roll planar die. Get chaos. Whoopee. Play {Overgrown Tomb} tapped.

Pass. 47/7
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 01:12:52 PM
are we sharing life total?
draw
forest pass
7
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 01:18:53 PM
Yup.

I guess Slayers could stack if multiple people use them.

UT UK draw.

Tap The Harvester to draw and discard {Burnished Hart}.

Play {Plains}, tap it and {Overgrown Tomb} to cast {Sakura-Tribe Elder}.

Swing with Steve for 2. The Horde mills two Phoberos Reavers.

Main 2, roll planar die, get blank.

Pass. 47/6
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 01:24:12 PM
uk ut draw
forest into {omnath locus of mana}
pass 7
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 01:31:33 PM
I guess swinging isn't exactly good right now.

Eh, I guess EoT I'll sac STE to go get a {Forest}.

UT UK draw.

Tap Harvester to draw, discard {Forest}.

Play a {Swamp}. Roll planar die, get chaos. Tap Swamp, Forest, Plains, and {Overgrown Tomb} for {Greater Good}.

Pass. 47/5

Horde's turn. It flips Mogis's Chosen, Minotaur Younghorn, and Consuming Rage. Swings with Younghorn, as Mogis's Chosen enters tapped. Because of Consuming Rage, Younghorn is a 4/2. Do you block?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 01:33:44 PM
no
uk ut draw
forest {oracle of mul daya} second forest tap forest to put a counter on omnath
pass
5
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
I forgot about Sokenzan. Younghorn was actually a 5/3. Younghorn dies at end of combat because of Consuming Rage. End of Minotaur's turn.

UT UK draw.

Tap Harvester to draw, discard {Stinkweed Imp}.

Play a {Plains}. Roll planar die, get Chaos. Why do I always get that when I have no creatures? Tap Plains to roll again. Blank. Tap Forest and Swamp to roll again. Blank.

Pass. 42/5

Minotaurs flip Minotaur Goreseeker, 2 Younghorn, another Mogis's Chosen, Reckless Minotaur, and Touch of the Horned God.

Reckless Minotaur
Creature—Minotaur
Haste
~ attacks each turn if able.
At the beginning of the end step, destroy ~.
4/1

Minotaurs swing. We've got two 3/3s, a 5/2, a 4/3, and a 6/5 headed our way, all with deathtouch. Blocks?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 02:00:05 PM
i would if i had a creature that wasnt crucial to my field but the 2 i have make this deck work so no 
uk ut draw
forest {nykthos shrine to nyx} then tap nykthos and 5 forests to play {mana reflection} the tap last forest to give omnath 2 counters the roll planar die and walk. should i exile provider and target omnath to gain 6 life or wait till next turn and gain more?
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 02:16:28 PM
Quote from: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 02:00:05 PM
i would if i had a creature that wasnt crucial to my field but the 2 i have make this deck work so no 
uk ut draw
forest {nykthos shrine to nyx} then tap nykthos and 5 forests to play {mana reflection} the tap last forest to give omnath 2 counters the roll planar die and walk. should i exile provider and target omnath to gain 6 life or wait till next turn and gain more?
We're walking to... Chaotic Aether!

Chaotic Aether
Phenomenon
When you encounter ~, each blank roll of the planar die is a chaos roll until a player planeswalks away from a plane. (Then planeswalk away from this phenomenon.)

So now that that's out of the way, the next plane is... Never mind, it's another phenomenon. And unfortunately for you, it's Planewide Disaster.

Planewide Disaster
Phenomenon
When you encounter ~, destroy all creatures. (Then planeswalk away from this phenomenon.)

So, board wipe. Next is... Mutual Ephiphany!

Mutual Epiphany
Phenomenon
When you encounter ~, each player draws four cards. (Then planeswalk away from this phenomenon.)

Okay, three phenomena in a row. Next is...

Trail of the Mage Rings
Instant and sorcery spells have rebound. (The spell's controller exiles the spell as it resolves if he or she cast it from his or her hand. At the beginning of that player's next upkeep, he or she may cast that card from exile without paying its mana cost.)
Whenever you roll chaos, you may search your library for an instant or sorcery card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle your library.

Keep in mind we haven't planeswalked away from a plane yet, so we still are under Chaotic Aether.

So now that the board's been wiped and you've drawn four cards, I recommend you use a mana to roll the planar die, then if you get chaos (5/6 chance you do) search for something like {Worldly Tutor} and use your last floating mana to cast it. You can also use The Provider in response to Planewide Disaster, however you still don't keep {Omnath}.

As for our life, we're at 21.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 02:21:32 PM
ok so il roll planar die and we r walking again and we will gain the life from provider being exiled. i also play {rites of flourishing} and play another forest
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Daw. I was hoping for dem searches for advantage. Next is...

The Great Forest
Each creature assigns combat damage equal to its toughness rather than its power.
Whenever you roll chaos, creatures you control get +0/+2 and gain trample until end of turn.

That it?

And we're at 27.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 02:30:35 PM
pass after above post
5
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 02:26:53 PM
Daw. I was hoping for dem searches for advantage.
i give you draw and extra land each turn instead of searches
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 02:42:24 PM
Okay, my move.

UT UK, dredge 5 for my first draw, adding {Stinkweed Imp} to my hand, then draw the second. Of note, I mill {Shriekmaw}.

Tap The Harvester to draw and discard {Stinkweed Imp} again.

Play {Forest} and {Swamp}, tap swamp for {Sol Ring}, tap {Sol Ring}, forest, and plains to play {Wickerbough Elder}.

Roll planar die. Get blank. Tap Swamp to roll again, get planeswalk. We be walkin' to... Never mind, we hit Spatial Merging!

Spatial Merging
Phenomenon
When you encounter ~, reveal cards from the top of your planar deck until you reveal two plane cards. Simultaneously planeswalk to both of them. Put all other cards revealed this way on the bottom of your planar deck in any order.

We're walking to...

Onakke Catacomb
All creatures are black and have deathtouch.
Whenever you roll chaos, creatures you control get +1/+0 and gain first strike until end of turn.

... and Stensia
Whenever a creature deals damage to one or more players for the first time in a turn, put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Whenever you roll chaos, each creature you control gains "{T}: This creature deals 1 damage to target player" until end of turn.

I think I'm done. 27/7

Horde's turn: it reveals Descend on the Prey. Well, without any Minotaurs, that's not going to do anything. Horde turn end.
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 02:58:49 PM
ut uk draw 2
forestx2 tap 2 for {snake basket} then tap 3 for {primal vigor} tap 1 for nykthos adding 8 green mana and tap till 11 mana then sac snake basket for 22 snakes then play {mycoloth} devour all tokens so he gets 88 counters on it so its a 92/92 then i roll planar die and get chaos. exile warmonger so hes a 97/94 first strike and attack then pass
2
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: Brawler_1337 on March 12, 2014, 03:03:08 PM
Welp, that definitely mills the horde out. GG.

I may host this as a regular thing, but I'm going to be busy for the next couple of hours. I might start another game later tonight or tomorrow, if I have enough time.

GG again, man!
Title: Re: Anyone want to try some Minotaur Horde Planechase EDH?
Post by: AdamS on March 12, 2014, 03:06:02 PM
you 2 i find the hord matches very fun and am really glad u host them +1 for a great format