It's a thing.
http://www.mythicspoiler.com/cpy/index.html
Vote condemnation, destroy everything. Seems fair.
HOLY COW I NEED THAT ANGEL.
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on February 03, 2014, 12:46:22 AM
HOLY COW I NEED THAT ANGEL.
one of them is going for 1000 bucks on ebay.
WTF? I could proxy my own for 50¢!
What's the point of Cogwork guy?
Quote from: Taysby on February 03, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
Take it in your first pack, then in the second pack, use it to take the foil mythic and the normal mythic all in one go.
Sick!
Quote from: Mishra, Artificer Extraordinaire on February 03, 2014, 05:23:06 PM
Quote from: Taysby on February 03, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
Take it in your first pack, then in the second pack, use it to take the foil mythic and the normal mythic all in one go.
Sick!
Lol, it will become THE draft pick in our cube
Wasn't that angel in another thread were someone pulled it from a theros pack?
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 03, 2014, 05:29:25 PM
Wasn't that angel in another thread were someone pulled it from a theros pack?
Yep
I feel like this set wil be strictly for limited
If its restricted to a format, that's gonna annoy me greatly. The Magister is perfect for my Kaalia EDH deck!
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on February 03, 2014, 11:47:00 PM
If its restricted to a format, that's gonna annoy me greatly. The Magister is perfect for my Kaalia EDH deck!
The cards will most likely be legal in Legacy and EDH.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 04, 2014, 11:50:18 AM
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on February 03, 2014, 11:47:00 PM
If its restricted to a format, that's gonna annoy me greatly. The Magister is perfect for my Kaalia EDH deck!
The cards will most likely be legal in Legacy and EDH.
even the draft guy? Well, I guess in other formats he's a vanila 3/3
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 04, 2014, 02:56:33 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 04, 2014, 11:50:18 AM
Quote from: xStrayKnightx on February 03, 2014, 11:47:00 PM
If its restricted to a format, that's gonna annoy me greatly. The Magister is perfect for my Kaalia EDH deck!
The cards will most likely be legal in Legacy and EDH.
even the draft guy? Well, I guess in other formats he's a vanila 3/3
I would assume so. Isn't that how every other supplemental product is?
:/ I reeeeeeeally like that angel.
But if its not like Modern or something. Is a no go ;~;
http://socialmtg.tumblr.com/post/75661977235/can-a-card-have-an-ability-that-only-works-outside-the
Looks like Cogwork Librarian is real...
http://wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1429
Can anybody crack this? The title is clearly conspiracy...
Must be coming out June or July 6.
210 cards
Mrsp - $3.99
Quote from: Rasser on February 13, 2014, 12:22:41 AM
Must be coming out June or July 6.
210 cards
Mrsp - $3.99
Agreed. The author's name should be Wizards of the Coast. This appears not to be a simple substitution cipher since there are inconsistencies (notably x and g).
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/the-rumor-mill/491516-update-2-13-2014-announced-magic-the-gathering
Somebody cracked it. It's officially the multiplayer draft set!
Plain text version.
plain text to avoid the storm of ads on that link:
Pick. Plot. Play!
Experience a Magic format where the intrigues begin long before the first spells are cast! Revolutionary new abilities impact every part of the play experience, starting with the draft itself.
Cogwork Librarian—One of the sixty new Magic cards in Conspiracy.
The first-ever multiplayer-focused booster set has new Magic cards with new mechanics that enhance multiplayer play. Returning favorites from throughout Magic's history round out the set and cultivate an environment of deception and treachery. The Magic: The Gathering–Conspiracy set is designed to be drafted with six to eight players who then split into groups of three or four players for free-for-all multiplayer games.
Set Name: Magic: The Gathering–Conspiracy
Number of Cards: 210 Release Date: June 6, 2014
Three-Letter Abbreviation: CNS
Twitter Hashtag: #MTGCNS
Initial Concept and Game Design: Shawn Main (lead), Dan Helland, David Humpherys, Kenneth Nagle, and Matt Tabak
Final Game Design and Development: David Humpherys (lead), Dan Emmons, K. Joseph Huber, Sam Stoddard, and Gavin Verhey, with contributions from Matt Tabak
Languages: English, Japanese, Chinese Simplified
Available in: Booster Packs
Key Points:
Multiplayer Booster Draft Format
15 Card Booster Packs (MSRP $3.99)
36 Packs per Display
Black-Bordered Cards
Release event promo card at participating WPN locations.
***Important to note that this info was not officially released from WoTC, but posted on Reddit. It may be inaccurate/changed by WoTC before released.
Quote from: Taysby on February 13, 2014, 12:29:01 AM
That link is russian...
Made me laugh. :) that's not Russian.
Must... Buy... 900000000.... boxes....
The official announcement has been made uncoded! http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1430
What's interesting to note is that some of the new cards in Conspiracy won't even be Vintage legal. That's the first time in a long time that they've done that.
Discuss!
So this set obviously has some reprints, so what are they? Will they be mostly good filler draft cards like {Kami of Ancient Law} (you know fun things that have multiple purposes) or could we see a few high profile reprints?
Second question: Will this be like a normal set where it is easily available at MSRP or will it be like Modern Masters where it is $200-300 a box?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on February 15, 2014, 10:05:26 AM
So this set obviously has some reprints, so what are they? Will they be mostly good filler draft cards like {Kami of Ancient Law} (you know fun things that have multiple purposes) or could we see a few high profile reprints?
Second question: Will this be like a normal set where it is easily available at MSRP or will it be like Modern Masters where it is $200-300 a box?
1st question: I'm expecting a little of both. It's designed for limited, so expect cards that are essential in limited (Kami of ancient law is a good example - a grizzly bear with a relevant activated ability). I'm sure that they will spice it up with something high-demand for all players to increase sales. I'm already hearing speculations at my lgs of possibly fetch lands or other high value staples for pricey formats. You won't see {Tarmagoyf}, because he kinda sucks in limited, but who knows, maybe {Bitterblossum} will show up as a mythic.
2nd question: it's tough to say. It's supposed to be 3.99 a pack, but the print run is limited (kind of like MMa). My store owner was saying that it's even kind of a pain for sellers like him, because they have a very limited time window to buy product. I'm hoping price will stay reasonable, but it's possible it will jump to MMa-levels.
Quote from: Testset on February 15, 2014, 03:52:27 PM
I must say, that draft structure sounds like a lot of hard feelings waiting to happen. Free-for-all with prizes at stake?
It depends on how they handle it. I've done it before a couple of different ways with friends (including prizes) and had a blast.
MaRo confirmed that Conspiracy takes place on a particular plane. He didn't say which one, though.
Quote from: Brawler_1337 on February 15, 2014, 11:31:17 PM
MaRo confirmed that Conspiracy takes place on a particular plane. He didn't say which one, though.
I'm guessing Alara since Magister of Worth and Cogwork Librarian both seem very Esper.
Perhaps it is a drafting set, if you collect it all, it turns out to be a well balanced cube
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 16, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
Perhaps it is a drafting set, if you collect it all, it turns out to be a well balanced cube
The set symbol is a cube, after all.
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 16, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
Perhaps it is a drafting set, if you collect it all, it turns out to be a well balanced cube
The set is designed for drafting, whether it becomes a cube or not, IDK, but I hope so!
Quote from: Gorzo on February 17, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 16, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
Perhaps it is a drafting set, if you collect it all, it turns out to be a well balanced cube
The set symbol is a cube, after all.
It is? It looked like a hexagonal lollipop to me...
Quote from: abstractApathist on February 17, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 17, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 16, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
Perhaps it is a drafting set, if you collect it all, it turns out to be a well balanced cube
The set symbol is a cube, after all.
It is? It looked like a hexagonal lollipop to me...
It looks like a cube full of magic sitting on a pedestal to me.
But then again, I'm a very strange person.
Edit: there should be hexagonal lollipops. I want one now.
Quote from: Gorzo on February 17, 2014, 07:26:41 PM
Quote from: abstractApathist on February 17, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 17, 2014, 12:36:37 AM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 16, 2014, 09:32:14 PM
Perhaps it is a drafting set, if you collect it all, it turns out to be a well balanced cube
The set symbol is a cube, after all.
It is? It looked like a hexagonal lollipop to me...
It looks like a cube full of magic sitting on a pedestal to me.
But then again, I'm a very strange person.
Edit: there should be hexagonal lollipops. I want one now.
There's a magical place called Japan where everything silly you can imagine is available for purchase there
Lol
Wut??
http://bit.ly/1oXssiy
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 20, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
Lol
Wut??
http://bit.ly/1oXssiy
Haha I'm sure that's totally legit :P
Quote from: Gorzo on February 20, 2014, 05:25:06 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 20, 2014, 04:50:40 PM
Lol
Wut??
http://bit.ly/1oXssiy
Haha I'm sure that's totally legit :P
It may indeed be legit. At least, the fonts and wording look right at a glance.
To explain why the price is so high, this isn't just any foil rare. This is an almost one-of-a-kind foil card with a serial number on the back. So far as I know, only three of these have been found. It's a serious collector's item, not just another promo.
I am still highly skeptical and doubt it's legitimacy. It's a set that hasn't even had cards revealed yet except for two. Foil looks weird. Set symbol foil in text box looks off-center to me.
I've been wrong plenty of times before, though. But I certainly wouldn't risk money on something that feels this fishy. Just my opinion.
Someone at WOTC is getting grilled for that
Quote from: Muggywuggy on February 20, 2014, 10:28:39 PM
Someone at WOTC is getting grilled for that
It was undoubtedly revealed on purpose. WotC has been revealing Conspiracy in glimpses and codes (Tabak confirming via acronym, a coded announcment...), and this and how it's related to cogwork librarian fit in perfectly.
I don't think there will be any for the next month... Journey into nyx spoilers starting next week.
Mah. Gersh. *votes condenmation*
I gotta say, I AM PSYCHED FOR THIS SETTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT MULTIPLAYER LIMITED AHOY
Aaaaaaarrrg!!!!!!! A whole thread full of Conspiracy theorists. It burns!! IT BURNS!!!!!!!!!!
Supposedly, Dack Fayden will be in the set.
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/4683a5973f0c0f8a839bbe7046d5f7e0/tumblr_n3ygkqhxrx1qc29lyo1_500.jpg)
The multiverse's greatest thief, in its greatest conspiracy?
Or are you Conspiracy Therosists? :P
http://mythicspoiler.com/cpy/cards/dackfayden.html
FFFFFF WHAT COLOURS ARE IT?????
Seems dimir.. Just how i like em
Twhats your reasoning?
Quote from: MisterJH on April 16, 2014, 11:05:05 PM
Twhats your reasoning?
There was a video on youtube called something like conspiratorial activity at PAX east. The people there chose between cards they could have spoiled, either a new card type, planeswalker, legendary creature, or something else can't remember. They spoiled a conspiracy card type and then one of the guys there went on a "quest" in which he got a picture of dack fayden at the end
I can't wait for dack
I want the D
Quote from: Taysby on April 20, 2014, 11:54:55 PM
More of deck has been spoiled!
you mean half of dack fayden?
Quote from: gtfotis on April 20, 2014, 10:38:47 PM
I want the D
Bro a man who ever says they want the d I applaud you for being open there is nothing wrong with that.
But jk even tho I don't mind people sexuality I don't think ur like that I just had to say some thing.
MaRo says spoilers begin in 5 weeks.
Dack Spoiled:
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/78d275627e76c0b9993770f48e1a6697/tumblr_n4erl3NjI21ssx0ojo1_500.jpg)
Source: go to this article: https://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/293 scroll down to 2 and type in "paliano". It's weird, but it works.
Humna humna humna... Love.
I think its uh... Not too good? Unless you ult?
His -2 is really limited and his +1 gives no advantage, even his ult isnt for sure useful... If his +1 had you discard 1 card hed be a billion times better, as is hes well.. Tibalt-like
I really want to keep an open mind about dack honestly. He's coming in a set geared entirely towards limited play. The -2 COULD be good depending on what's in the set, but it isn't flexible. His +1 is good to me because he's going to get you what you need rather quickly, mitigating your pointless top decks, and his pop.. Well, I don't know. Knowing U/R it seems useful, but still you have to cast a spell that targets to see some stuff happen
Guys, he won't be legal in many constructed formats. He is specifically designed for multiplayer and he is quite good in EDH. He is a turn three "take someone's mana rock". He can also be used to loot (which helps you find lands and answers to threats your opponents play) and if you ulti him the game can get ridiculous. This isn't a planeswalker designed for Standard playability, he is strictly designed for casual players.
Quote from: MisterJH on April 21, 2014, 10:39:57 PM
His -2 is really limited and his +1 gives no advantage, even his ult isnt for sure useful... If his +1 had you discard 1 card hed be a billion times better, as is hes well.. Tibalt-like
But its not at random
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on April 21, 2014, 10:59:05 PM
Guys, he won't be legal in many constructed formats. He is specifically designed for multiplayer and he is quite good in EDH. He is a turn three "take someone's mana rock". He can also be used to loot (which helps you find lands and answers to threats your opponents play) and if you ulti him the game can get ridiculous. This isn't a planeswalker designed for Standard playability, he is strictly designed for casual players.
He'll be legal in legacy. Probably won't see play but maybe someone will break him somehow.
If you played {R} {W} {U} Have that blue card from Journey into Nyx (can't remember the name) that reduces the cost by 1 per target, use his ult, play something like {Glimpse the Sun God}
I think he is beastly, nice way to filter your deck and only a 3 drop. I think you guys are being a little hard on him.
Quote from: Stoneco1d869 on April 22, 2014, 12:53:57 AM
I think he is beastly, nice way to filter your deck and only a 3 drop. I think you guys are being a little hard on him.
In legacy 3 mana is a lot... But like I said, I'm sure he'll find a home somewhere. ;-)
In EDH he's very good. Artifacts are the main source of ramp in most EDH decks. Stealing someone's {Sol Ring} or {Gilded Lotus} is a pretty useful ability. And drawing 3 cards a turn is so good, even if you discard 2 after. Who cares if you have to get rid of 2 useless cards a turn when you replace your draw with {Ancestral Recall}? His ult is interesting.
I think hell be super fun in EDH for sure
Ill probably get a couple just cuz
I wanted him to be dimir though
I think most of you are forgetting that in Legacy, people play Jittes and Swords of Cash and Money (mostly Jitte) because voltroning {True-Name Nemesis} is busted. Let's also not forget that Vintage decks tend to use a lot of artifacts (most of the P9 are artifacts). I think Dack has the potential to make a splash in those formats.
I think nekusar EDH has a new friend
But 3 mana to steal an artifact when they have better steals where you can take the creatures?
Quote from: MisterJH on April 22, 2014, 01:41:33 PM
But 3 mana to steal an artifact when they have better steals where you can take the creatures?
Still cheaper than steal spells actually cost. Remember that you keep the artifact after you take it with Dack. Any control magic effect that costs less than 4 mana is actually just an Act of Treason. Here, you get to steal a problematic artifact, be it a Batterskull, Jitte, Sword, he'll, even a Cranial Plating or an Artifact land. Legacy has so many great targets for his -2, he's going to be awesome. Even if he just steals something and dies, that's some fun advantage you get. In EDH, dropping him turn 3 almost guarantees that you nab a Mana Rock and +1 him out of danger fairly quickly.
Careful Study/Faithless Looting every turn is nothing to laugh at, either. In draft, where we'll be seeing him most (Conspiracy and Cube), that can find you what you need incredibly quickly. If you draft something in the Reanimator archetype, he also allows you to just dump things in to your graveyard. In EDH, it's still powerful. Filtering through unneeded cards each turn and Grixis Reanimator filling the graveyard are pretty strong.
His Ult is hilarious. We'll never see it happen in Legacy, but EDH might see it more often. It turns any sort of removal, burn, or even Auras in to steal spells. He goes great with removal that specifies 'you don't control' or 'an opponent controls', since the original spell will fizzle once you nab the creature. With any hard removal, it allows you to nab the creature, then kill it, giving you control over any dies/leaves the battlefield triggers. Or combo him with Curse of the Swine. Steal all your guys, then turn them in to Pigs.
Dack is sweet.
Quote from: Remillo on April 22, 2014, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: MisterJH on April 22, 2014, 01:41:33 PM
But 3 mana to steal an artifact when they have better steals where you can take the creatures?
Still cheaper than steal spells actually cost. Remember that you keep the artifact after you take it with Dack. Any control magic effect that costs less than 4 mana is actually just an Act of Treason. Here, you get to steal a problematic artifact, be it a Batterskull, Jitte, Sword, he'll, even a Cranial Plating or an Artifact land. Legacy has so many great targets for his -2, he's going to be awesome. Even if he just steals something and dies, that's some fun advantage you get. In EDH, dropping him turn 3 almost guarantees that you nab a Mana Rock and +1 him out of danger fairly quickly.
Careful Study/Faithless Looting every turn is nothing to laugh at, either. In draft, where we'll be seeing him most (Conspiracy and Cube), that can find you what you need incredibly quickly. If you draft something in the Reanimator archetype, he also allows you to just dump things in to your graveyard. In EDH, it's still powerful. Filtering through unneeded cards each turn and Grixis Reanimator filling the graveyard are pretty strong.
His Ult is hilarious. We'll never see it happen in Legacy, but EDH might see it more often. It turns any sort of removal, burn, or even Auras in to steal spells. He goes great with removal that specifies 'you don't control' or 'an opponent controls', since the original spell will fizzle once you nab the creature. With any hard removal, it allows you to nab the creature, then kill it, giving you control over any dies/leaves the battlefield triggers. Or combo him with Curse of the Swine. Steal all your guys, then turn them in to Pigs.
Dack is sweet.
Not to mention, you can Path or Swords something, and YOU get the benefit.
{Scouring sands} anyone?
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on April 22, 2014, 09:31:15 PM
{Scouring sands} anyone?
Doesn't Target. A spell will only trigger the Emblem's ability if it specifically has the word "Target" in the text.
However the new strive mechanic.. Or {hidden strings} or.. Well you get the point
Of course idk if strive specifies you must target your own creatures
There is going to be a new card type, named...Conspiracy. MaRo confirms.
It will probably be a draft specific card type not usable in constructed formats.
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on April 23, 2014, 09:17:56 PM
It will probably be a draft specific card type not usable in constructed formats.
Cube?
Quote from: Taysby on April 23, 2014, 09:16:29 PM
More food for goyf? Ughhhhhh..,
Actually, that's how someone got MaRo to confirm the card. They asked if {Tarmagoyf}'s reminder text would receive an errata and he said no, because reminder text just has to be correct at the time of the printing, but doesn't matter after.
They spoiled the booster box, it's beautiful 😍
Pretty freaking cool!
http://www.magicspoiler.com/conspiracy/
Quote from: Taysby on April 29, 2014, 05:24:33 PM
Breigo is a disappointment. Aren't they supposed to spoil the good cards?
Taysby, do you play edh?
Again, NOT EVERY CARD IS MADE FOR STANDARD AND MODERN. In fact, this set won't even be legal in either of those formats. He is still decent in Limited because he is a 4 drop 2/4 flyer, even if you cant use the blinking.
Quote from: Taysby on April 29, 2014, 08:19:34 PM
Buy if that's one of the better cards, this set is kind of a dissapointment...
...for you. The set seems pretty awesome so far to me. I really like Mr. Blinkly and having {Clockwork Librarian} is pretty cool, he will go straight into my Peasant cube.
This set looks like so much fun, I am excite
A guy who blinks and returns under your control is pretty wicked, you can permanently steal creatures with an act of treason
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 02, 2014, 12:52:30 PM
A guy who blinks and returns under your control is pretty wicked, you can permanently steal creatures with an act of treason
he says return them under their owner's control, so this doesn't work. if you blink a stolen creature it will return on their side.
Quote from: particle on May 02, 2014, 05:20:28 PM
Quote from: Muggywuggy on May 02, 2014, 12:52:30 PM
A guy who blinks and returns under your control is pretty wicked, you can permanently steal creatures with an act of treason
he says return them under their owner's control, so this doesn't work. if you blink a stolen creature it will return on their side.
Yea misread him
Conspiracy preview week is in two weeks.
Anyone see the back of tip card?
How do I add a pic?
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 11, 2014, 08:59:40 PM
Anyone see the back of tip card?
How do I add a pic?
(http://media-dominaria.cursecdn.com/attachments/128/282/635340752636667608.jpg)
Really thought the first word on that card was prick.
Will conspiracy be allowed in other formats? I am confused..
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 13, 2014, 08:55:33 PM
Will conspiracy be allowed in other formats? I am confused..
Legacy and Vintage yes
Maybe EDH but not sure since I don't play EDH .... yet
Quote from: Ibtrickey on May 13, 2014, 08:55:33 PM
Will conspiracy be allowed in other formats? I am confused..
My guess
Standard - no
Modern - no
Legacy - yes
I hope it's legal for edh, I want Breigo in my Reaper King deck so hard!
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/299a
" There are sixty-five new cards in Conspiracy. Fifty-two of the new cards will be legal in Legacy and Vintage; thirteen cards will not."
As for EDH, it will depend on what the independent council who make the rules for EDH says (http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php)
There rule thus far is, "Commander is played with vintage legal cards, with some exceptions." So.....?
The non vintage and legacy legal cards are probably ones that reference draft, like the cog work librarian.
Quote from: Falcon182 on May 13, 2014, 09:39:01 PM
The non vintage and legacy legal cards are probably ones that reference draft, like the cog work librarian.
nope, that's not true- cards like that are simply nonfunctional. for example, {command tower} is indeed legal in legacy, but to quote Hanna: "it does nothing".
Quote from: Taysby on May 13, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 13, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/299a
" There are sixty-five new cards in Conspiracy. Fifty-two of the new cards will be legal in Legacy and Vintage; thirteen cards will not."
As for EDH, it will depend on what the independent council who make the rules for EDH says (http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php)
There rule thus far is, "Commander is played with vintage legal cards, with some exceptions." So.....?
That link goes to the modern deck list, not conspiracy.
Oops: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1430
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/ur/2014/SelvalaExplorerReturned.jpg)
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/daily/li/2014/hz79yq3dc1_ct.jpg)
They look so fake right now haha
set symbol on those cards doesnt look the conspiracy cube.
Quote from: particle on May 14, 2014, 10:10:03 AM
set symbol on those cards doesnt look the conspiracy cube.
It's the vintage masters set symbol; they're releasing all the new conspiracy cards in VM because conspiracy isn't being released online.
Check out Cedric Phillips article for vintage masters today on starcity games. Preview card is JtMS. Same set symbol as the cards listed in prior posts, when library, draw, and a few other words highlighted.
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/28488_Vintage-Masters-Preview-Jace-the-Mind-Sculptor.html
That symbol reminds me of dka
That Tyrant Choice card! Hmmmm I has to has it!
NEW CONSPIRACY SPOILER! And boy, does she have EDH written all over her!
(http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/cns/asdfsc3wfas234/IldtzvGTaO_EN.jpg)
Lord Lordy she's a beaut.
I'd tap dat
Quote from: Mattao19 on May 15, 2014, 01:52:18 AM
I'd tap dat
I laughed at this for about 5 seconds. That may not sound like a long time, but realistically 5 seconds is a pretty decent laugh.
seems like its just more infinite combo {triskelion} fodder.
Holy cow that seems soooo good!
I'm going to be watching {Flayer of the Hatebound} and other undying creatures skyrocket like mad in price soon. Get them when they are cheap
The set is obviously geared toward multiplayer and I can't wait to draft this.
I think {geralf's messenger}, {hound of griselbrand}, {mikaus, the unhallowed}, and {flayer of the hate bound} are good pickups. Thoughts?
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on May 15, 2014, 05:10:20 PM
I think {geralf's messenger}, {hound of griselbrand}, {mikaus, the unhallowed}, and {flayer of the hate bound} are good pickups. Thoughts?
She'll be fun in limited, awesome in EDH, but won't effect prices of existing cards IMO.
Any mention of limited printing?
Any word of a release date?
Quote from: Rass on May 15, 2014, 05:16:09 PM
Any mention of limited printing?
I think that they have said they are willing to print more if need be, kind of like the Commander decks.
Quote from: Falcon182 on May 15, 2014, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on May 15, 2014, 05:10:20 PM
I think {geralf's messenger}, {hound of griselbrand}, {mikaus, the unhallowed}, and {flayer of the hate bound} are good pickups. Thoughts?
She'll be fun in limited, awesome in EDH, but won't effect prices of existing cards IMO.
Yea I agree
new conspiracy spoiler:
twitter.com/WotcPurvis/status/467369800407465984/photo/1
FLUFFIES FOR EVERYONE
🐕💨 Squirl!
Yes! 😆😆😆😆
just noticed {magister of worth} got nonpromo art.
Anyone check the spoilers? Like 30 cards spoiled. CONSPIRACIES HAVE BEEN SPOILED!
I'm in love with this set. It is beyond cool.
Quote from: FustyDavorite on May 17, 2014, 05:37:38 PM
I'm in love with this set. It is beyond cool.
Pretty much sums it up
Quote from: Taysby on May 17, 2014, 05:51:09 PM
I need this set!
but what is up with the cogwork cards. Add another pack? Do you have to buy it? secret agendas. do you write the card name on a piece of paper? some of these things are super confusing, but a lot of them look like a lot of fun! with a lot of value!
Well you usually use it In drafting, but you could do a {Booster Tutor} depending your group
Reprinting Basandra... The most beautiful magic card.. Ever..
This set looks amazing, I am going to build a cube out of it. Already getting together the cards that have been announced as reprints.
Hmmm... Gamestar on tcgplayer has Dack Fayden for preorder... $59.99. Doubt it'll stay there.
{Exploration} Reprint!
Ohmygod
{Exploration}, {Rout}, {Misdirection} reprints with new and amazing art!!!
Rout has some interesting flavour text, hmm.
Super stoked about the {Exploration} reprint though. That will be amazing in my {Kruphix} edh, though I'm torn between the old and new versions.
Quote from: Taysby on May 20, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
I need this set. Now. What's the msrp?
$3.99 a pack.. Just like current prices
These drafting cards are interesting. I'm wondering how shops will do this. With the card you can draft another pack {lore seeker} Do you call a judge and the store throws in another pack for you? Otherwise your spending like $3.50 for everyone to have more cards. Or the other one {whispergear sneak}. Draft the card face up. During the draft you may turn it face down and look at an unopened booster pack or a pack that is currently not being looked at. So you stop the draft to tell the guy across the table you want to look at the sealed booster pack that's sitting in front of him. Interesting..
Quote from: Taysby on May 20, 2014, 06:59:10 PM
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 20, 2014, 06:01:38 PM
Quote from: Taysby on May 20, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
I need this set. Now. What's the msrp?
$3.99 a pack.. Just like current prices
Oh, I thought it was a block set that you make packs from, like a normal cube...
You can literally open any pack you want. I might let people open packs from my other cube while we draft this, lol.
That {Rout} art is so good..... Do want.
I like the conspiracy type cards how they use the command zone... Interesting if you daft a couple of them.
I kinda like {advantageous proclaimation} (starting deck size is 5 less) ...
{worldknit} ( as long as every card in your card pool started the game in your library or command zone. Lands you control have tap "add one mana of any color to your mana pool"
So you have to use every card you draft for it to work, but then odds are worse.
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 20, 2014, 08:23:26 PM
I like the conspiracy type cards how they use the command zone... Interesting if you daft a couple of them.
I kinda like {advantageous proclaimation} (starting deck size is 5 less) ...
{worldknit} ( as long as every card in your card pool started the game in your library or command zone. Lands you control have tap "add one mana of any color to your mana pool"
So you have to use every card you draft for it to work, but then odds are worse.
The coolest thing about {Worldknit} though is trying to evaluate it, and deciding whether or not you should draft it. I just want to see the look of horror on a Pro's face as they open one pack one, and sit there thinking about all the upsides, downsides and other options.
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This land is bonkers in multiplayer...
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 21, 2014, 06:45:07 AM
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This land is bonkers in multiplayer...
Only in draft. I have a feeling this won't be legal in Vintage/Legacy. Or, if it is, it won't do anything, a la {command tower}
Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 21, 2014, 06:50:08 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 21, 2014, 06:45:07 AM
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This land is bonkers in multiplayer...
Only in draft. I have a feeling this won't be legal in Vintage/Legacy. Or, if it is, it won't do anything, a la {command tower}
But EDH...The reason I said it is bonkers is because of diplomacy that the card entails. I really like when multiplayer forces interactions among players.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 21, 2014, 06:56:13 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 21, 2014, 06:50:08 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 21, 2014, 06:45:07 AM
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This land is bonkers in multiplayer...
Only in draft. I have a feeling this won't be legal in Vintage/Legacy. Or, if it is, it won't do anything, a la {command tower}
But EDH...The reason I said it is bonkers is because of diplomacy that the card entails. I really like when multiplayer forces interactions among players.
It still wouldn't work in EDH, unless you have an EDH draft or they errata the card. The colors are chosen when the card is drafted, not any other time.
Ooh, EDH draft sounds fun.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 21, 2014, 07:06:59 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 21, 2014, 06:56:13 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on May 21, 2014, 06:50:08 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on May 21, 2014, 06:45:07 AM
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This land is bonkers in multiplayer...
Only in draft. I have a feeling this won't be legal in Vintage/Legacy. Or, if it is, it won't do anything, a la {command tower}
But EDH...The reason I said it is bonkers is because of diplomacy that the card entails. I really like when multiplayer forces interactions among players.
It still wouldn't work in EDH, unless you have an EDH draft or they errata the card. The colors are chosen when the card is drafted, not any other time.
You're right, I misread the card. I thought it said as you play the land, but it is as you draft it.
This set will be awesome for cube. I should make 1 now....
I've been wanting a {decimate}, guess I'll be more likely to get one now!
i love the hidden agendas! all the conspiracies seems cool!
Does anyone else think the conspiracy that lets you name a card and spend mana of any color to cast cards with that name is pickable in the 3-6 range? It seems very good for playing a totally off color bomb.
Conspiracy boxes are preordering at $120, so it looks like we won't get screwed like with Modern Masters.
Still, more than a normal expansion. I wish I could buy 1 but I have a modern deck to build....
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 21, 2014, 08:51:03 PM
Still, more than a normal expansion. I wish I could buy 1 but I have a modern deck to build....
No, that is the normal for SCG. $144 is the technical MSRP for this and all normal expansions.
I thought most boxes were ~100?
Quote from: E.kann1 on May 21, 2014, 09:42:36 PM
I thought most boxes were ~100?
On Amazon and such, but many LGSs and some online (like SCG, they are notorious for being expensive) stores still sell at $120. That is what is normal in my area if you went to a card shop.
2 of the lgs I go to sell boxes for $100. But I go to another store to buy my boxes. They guy I buy from sells cards, comics, and coins. Also all other collectible stuff. No area to play and only has about 100 singles for purchase. But he sells boxes for $79.95. This guy is awesome. And now a store pissed him off so he is buying board games now and he told me he has a few board games that are only like $0.36 above the price the distributor paid and sold them for. He's just looking to sell product. He also has xwing minatures. Sells all the small ships for under $9 and the medium ships that retail for $29.99 sells those for under $17.
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 22, 2014, 06:57:19 AM
2 of the lgs I go to sell boxes for $100. But I go to another store to buy my boxes. They guy I buy from sells cards, comics, and coins. Also all other collectible stuff. No area to play and only has about 100 singles for purchase. But he sells boxes for $79.95. This guy is awesome. And now a store pissed him off so he is buying board games now and he told me he has a few board games that are only like $0.36 above the price the distributor paid and sold them for. He's just looking to sell product. He also has xwing minatures. Sells all the small ships for under $9 and the medium ships that retail for $29.99 sells those for under $17.
That's pretty great. Stores pay $72.50 for a box straight from WoTC (I assume more if from a distributer), so those are some small profit margins.
MaRo: That is correct. Each Conspiracy pack has one draft matters card which is in the pack in lieu of a basic land.
Interesting....
Muzzio looks amaaaaaaaazing in edh!!
More spoilers. :3
Can I draft a cog work librarian and wait say 2 packs before taking the extra card or do I have to take it from the next pack I get?
Quote from: Vindog on May 23, 2014, 02:15:10 PM
Can I draft a cog work librarian and wait say 2 packs before taking the extra card or do I have to take it from the next pack I get?
I would say yes.. Anytime during the draft you can use him. He goes back into the pack when you do.
Quote from: Avnger345 on May 23, 2014, 05:49:43 PM
Quote from: Vindog on May 23, 2014, 02:15:10 PM
Can I draft a cog work librarian and wait say 2 packs before taking the extra card or do I have to take it from the next pack I get?
I would say yes.. Anytime during the draft you can use him. He goes back into the pack when you do.
My goal for Conspiracy is to take an entire pack and put in 15 {Cogwork Librarian}s....Just for the lols.
{Deathreap Ritual} looks really good for EDH.
Damnit, I just finished my cube too...Stop it wizards :)
{compulsive research} ftw.
can i play these cards in standard format?
i love the art for selvala explorer returned
No you cannot. They will be for legacy and vintage only, except the conspiracy cards which are only legal in drafting. Usually the whole set of cards is released a week or 2 before pre-releases and actual release right?
Wizards put out a draft vid with BDM, kenji, Kathleen de vere, marshal sutcliff, and some others. Check it out!
Also, limited resources put out a podcast (1:30) all about drafting conspiracy.
Full spoiler at midnight!!!! (I knew this earlier this week, MaRo said so on Blogatog, but forgot to post, sorry :( )
Umm.."tidalslimshady asked: Are you able to say when we get the full spoiler for conspiracy
MaRo:The full spoiler will be going up on Monday."
Where is it MaRo??
Welp.
Quote from: Taysby on June 02, 2014, 12:09:34 AM
California time. That's in an hour.
No, the site goes by Eastern time. The July 2nd articles are already up.
Quote from: Taysby on June 02, 2014, 12:11:47 AM
? Why? They're based in Washington...
The server is on the Eastern seaboard.
Edit: I messaged him on Tumblr and will be refreshing the card image gallery rapidly, so we will see...
ITS UP!!!!
Edit: Holy .poo. {Stifle}!!!!
Holy .poo. {Pernicious Deed}!!!!
Quote from: Taysby on June 02, 2014, 01:15:55 AM
I didn't see pernicious.
You didn't look very closely :P
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Quote from: GlowackAttack on June 02, 2014, 01:24:44 AM
So I figured out why the packs are filled with so many goodies... Each box will have 24 packs, not 36. That way you can draft 8 people per box, duh.. Hahahaha
Yeah. Imagine pulling a foil {Brainstorm} (currently at $200 on TCG), foil {Stifle} ($100 on SCG) or a foil {Pernicious Deed} ($60-80 on SCG, depending on Judge or pack foil). This set will be bonkers.
Set spoiled
Unanchored
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 02, 2014, 12:26:35 AM
ITS UP!!!!
Edit: Holy .poo. {Stifle}!!!!
Holy .poo. {Pernicious Deed}!!!!
wowzers!
Quote from: Taysby on June 02, 2014, 11:33:31 AM
Why is {stifle} in the set? It seems like it isn't good in draft...
It's very good in this set. Every card just about has an activated or triggered ability to use it on. Having 1 instead of 4 is kinda weak though.
Quote from: GlowackAttack on June 02, 2014, 01:24:44 AM
So I figured out why the packs are filled with so many goodies... Each box will have 24 packs, not 36. That way you can draft 8 people per box, duh.. Hahahaha
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1430
Says 36 packs per box on the bottom. Has it changed?
Quote from: Rass on June 02, 2014, 05:54:54 PM
Quote from: GlowackAttack on June 02, 2014, 01:24:44 AM
So I figured out why the packs are filled with so many goodies... Each box will have 24 packs, not 36. That way you can draft 8 people per box, duh.. Hahahaha
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1430
Says 36 packs per box on the bottom. Has it changed?
http://www.miniaturemarket.com/woca75340.html
found another site saying 36 packs.
So...crunching the numbers, so I could build a cube and something odd came up. In an article, ( https://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/300 ) it was mentioned that there would be 10 mythics, 35 rares, 60 uncommons, and 80 commons. For those of us who can, that adds up to 185 out of the 210 cards in the set. This was originally explained by saying that the "Draft Matters" cards would go in the basic land slot, but that accounts for 12 cards, leaving 13 cards unaccounted for. 13 is an odd number, but it also happens to be the number of Conspiracy cards in the set. So this leads me to the assumption that Conspiracies will also be put into a weird slot (such as the basic land slot, like the "Draft Matters" cards).
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 03, 2014, 06:34:53 PM
So...crunching the numbers, so I could build a cube and something odd came up. In an article, ( https://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/300 ) it was mentioned that there would be 10 mythics, 35 rares, 60 uncommons, and 80 commons. For those of us who can, that adds up to 185 out of the 210 cards in the set. This was originally explained by saying that the "Draft Matters" cards would go in the basic land slot, but that accounts for 12 cards, leaving 13 cards unaccounted for. 13 is an odd number, but it also happens to be the number of Conspiracy cards in the set. So this leads me to the assumption that Conspiracies will also be put into a weird slot (such as the basic land slot, like the "Draft Matters" cards).
I think the Conspiracies and Draft Matters cards will both replace the land slot. I remember somewhere that a Conspiracy or a Draft Matters card will be in every pack.
That would be the logical conclusion, but we can confirm it tomorrow when I crack my box. Cant wait
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on June 05, 2014, 06:45:00 PM
That would be the logical conclusion, but we can confirm it tomorrow when I crack my box. Cant wait
I hope crack means draft... if not... why would you do something terrible like that?? :P :D ;)
I'm going to buy three. One to open, one to draft, and one to hold onto
Quote from: Sparkle Ninja on June 05, 2014, 07:03:01 PM
I'm going to buy three. One to open, one to draft, and one to hold onto
Holding will be EXTREMELY long term bc WotC said they'll reprint it on demand. So just be careful with it :P
there are whispers that fetch lands may actually be in conspiracy...
Quote from: particle on June 05, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
there are whispers that fetch lands may actually be in conspiracy...
The whole set has been releases though ..
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 05, 2014, 10:47:04 PM
Quote from: particle on June 05, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
there are whispers that fetch lands may actually be in conspiracy...
The whole set has been releases though ..
Ssshhhhhhhhhhh... It's a CONSPIRACY ;)
Quote from: Mattao19 on June 05, 2014, 10:47:04 PM
Quote from: particle on June 05, 2014, 10:20:42 PM
there are whispers that fetch lands may actually be in conspiracy...
thats what they want you to think.
The whole set has been releases though ..