Has anyone else seen this picture of Avycyn the archangel floating around, I'm far too lazy to post a link, but not too lazy to say that if this just so happens to be the actual Avycyn, she sucks.
3www
6/6
Flying, pro-demons
All humans you control have pro-no humans.
Here be the thread dedicated to all things AR.
Ready, GO!
Quote from: JakeyWakey on March 15, 2012, 10:51:34 AM
Has anyone else seen this picture of Avycyn the archangel floating around, I'm far too lazy to post a link, but not too lazy to say that if this just so happens to be the actual Avycyn, she sucks.
3www
6/6
Flying, pro-demons
All humans you control have pro-no humans.
That's lame if that is true. I don't think she would even see EDH play.
I think that depends on your meta. I mean do you know how many Olivia EDH I've seen around? Although vamps are fun, I'd still rather be playing {Tsabo Tavoc}. She's a beast!
I'm calling shenanigans. From the sites I saw, they don't have her listed I only saw the pic in google images.
It's gotta be fake... First off she was trapped in the {helvault} by a demon so I doubt she would be pro demons. Her other ability is lame as well. If that's her actual abilities than I would much rather have {angelic overseer}
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on March 15, 2012, 02:39:06 PM
It's gotta be fake... First off she was trapped in the {helvault} by a demon so I doubt she would be pro demons. Her other ability is lame as well. If that's her actual abilities than I would much rather have {angelic overseer}
Omg yes
I hope this isn't the real Avacyn, and good point on the pro-demons part. Is skirsdag a demon?? Cause that is who supposedly trapped her. Either way, I really really hope she's got more bang than that. I mean not even indestructible, I would hat to see her be a {victim of night}.
Quote from: JakeyWakey on March 15, 2012, 10:51:34 AM
Has anyone else seen this picture of Avycyn the archangel floating around, I'm far too lazy to post a link, but not too lazy to say that if this just so happens to be the actual Avycyn, she sucks.
3www
6/6
Flying, pro-demons
All humans you control have pro-no humans.
it may be lame, unfortunately it fits flavourwise. It may be close if not legit.
Spoilers don't start till April and if that's the real card that means there was a leak and wizards would be making a big deal about it. That being said I saw the card and I can saw its not real but if it's was or close to the real one it would be a bad card.
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on March 15, 2012, 02:39:06 PM
It's gotta be fake... First off she was trapped in the {helvault} by a demon so I doubt she would be pro demons. Her other ability is lame as well. If that's her actual abilities than I would much rather have {angelic overseer}
Well, she spent all of her time locking away devils and demons. Its was just one Kick-Ass demon, Griselbrand, the most powerful demon EVAR, that got her sucked into the 'vault. See more here:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/stf/178
(Aside: can anyone tell me what happened to Lilianna's tat's?)
It was confirmed fake.
My favioret fake I saw was called avacyn, returned and it was on an {Emrakul, the aeons torn} card with Emrakuls name replaced by avacyn and annailator 6 with repent 6 instead.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 15, 2012, 08:40:45 PM
My favioret fake I saw was called avacyn, returned and it was on an {Emrakul, the aeons torn} card with Emrakuls name replaced by avacyn and annailator 6 with repent 6 instead.
I saw that, it was pretty funny
So, if Avacyn is restored, and there are no more DFCs, then there are no more Werewolves. If that's true, then did she get rid of vampires, zombies and spirits too?
Quote from: BlackJester on March 15, 2012, 11:54:03 PM
So, if Avacyn is restored, and there are no more DFCs, then there are no more Werewolves. If that's true, then did she get rid of vampires, zombies and spirits too?
She is supposed to create a balance between light and dark. That's what sorin created her for. So there will be zombie, vamps, and the rumor is a werewolf that is always a werewolf.
Wouldn't that just be a wolf then? π
Sorry to interrupt. Kinda related....where can i read the Magic Lore fully detailed up to now..? :D
Wikipedia?
Theres no official site? D: dam alright brb gonna read.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 16, 2012, 12:44:01 AM
Wouldn't that just be a wolf then? π
It's supposed to be a legendary werewolf. The first werewolf type of kind of thing.
It's confirmed that there are not going to be any dfc's right? I think it would be cool to have werewolves, or vamps the flip to humans and stay that way.
I'm still shamelessly holding out for Pirates! But of course, due to fate, now that I've mentioned it, it will never happen. π
Quote from: Spikepit on March 16, 2012, 03:16:07 AM
I'm still shamelessly holding out for Pirates! But of course, due to fate, now that I've mentioned it, it will never happen. π
You know, they COULD do a nautical theme, but it would probably be a blue heavy set. π
Quote from: BlackJester on March 16, 2012, 10:24:16 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on March 16, 2012, 03:16:07 AM
I'm still shamelessly holding out for Pirates! But of course, due to fate, now that I've mentioned it, it will never happen. π
You know, they COULD do a nautical theme, but it would probably be a blue heavy set. π
...Kiora?
Storyline wise, I think there is going to be a piece of legendary equipment "Liliana's Veil". Liliana should be joining forces with Avacyn to take down Griselbrand. (W/B joining forces, eh Sorin? *wink,wink*)
So, if B/W are working together, could we expect to see other enemy colors working together? U/R Pirates? G/U Sea-beasts?
Edit: I just had an idea, Player/Planeswalker equipment!! W00t! They experimented with something similar with land "equipment" (fortification, {Darksteel Garrison}) ;D
Quote from: BlackJester on March 16, 2012, 11:51:10 AM
Storyline wise, I think there is going to be a piece of legendary equipment "Liliana's Veil". Liliana should be joining forces with Avacyn to take down Griselbrand. (W/B joining forces, eh Sorin? *wink,wink*)
So, if B/W are working together, could we expect to see other enemy colors working together? U/R Pirates? G/U Sea-beasts?
Edit: I just had an idea, Player/Planeswalker equipment!! W00t! They experimented with something similar with land "equipment" (fortification, {Darksteel Garrison}) ;D
The storyline for this can go many ways, and the set is going to be huge. I can actually see a very strange turn of events such as this, look at Rise of the Eldrazi. Sure, we were expecting the monsters, but we got a lot more than that. Just like right now, we're expecting a full on war against the darkness, and redemption, but how will it play out???
If its pro-demons or {Emrakul} it's fake or a joke.
So apparently my brother has been doing research and it is predicted that there may be a possibility of 5 PW in avacyn restored and m13, the dak guy, seen in faithless looting, and the reason he is on innastrad to begin with some chick named kweefa, or something like that. We may also see a new garruk, an in veil cursed one, or he may die :(. And then we may see a new Lilliana freed from the demons who own her soul.
Could a demon be planeswalkwr? = D
Oh and that Merfolk chick that is on all the planes walker posters but has never been printed.
I'm guessing there will be a 5 pw cycle every other set. Chandra is booooooring. Dak is the man :P.
Quote from: Guypocolypse on March 19, 2012, 11:29:10 PM
Could a demon be planeswalkwr? = D
No, but some of the older more powerful can cross into other planes.
Does anybody know if there is going to be a new novel
Quote from: Rasser on March 20, 2012, 01:28:02 AM
Does anybody know if there is going to be a new novel
There always Is but usually not til the last set of a block so as not to spoiler.
in the first post take a look at the small pic
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/17/17/72/98/avacyn10.gif&imgrefurl=http://teamsuperscoopup.forumotion.com/t65-avacyn-out-of-the-rock&usg=__ZtthKevYG_UOWSwuN7DMNUC6bCI=&h=523&w=375&sz=109&hl=de&start=89&sig2=AXQzE8vNDdtMr1hZ-A-Xhw&zoom=1&tbnid=cj_2dRzgTVHU-M:&tbnh=142&tbnw=111&ei=kXhoT_PwJIPzsga-yaWLCA&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=953&vpy=266&dur=446&hovh=265&hovw=190&tx=142&ty=171&sig=109671639550453137745&page=5&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:89
Avacyn pw (with some stupid abilities = fake) but it is a nice idea
Quote from: remasuri ger on March 20, 2012, 08:33:16 AM
in the first post take a look at the small pic
http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/17/17/72/98/avacyn10.gif&imgrefurl=http://teamsuperscoopup.forumotion.com/t65-avacyn-out-of-the-rock&usg=__ZtthKevYG_UOWSwuN7DMNUC6bCI=&h=523&w=375&sz=109&hl=de&start=89&sig2=AXQzE8vNDdtMr1hZ-A-Xhw&zoom=1&tbnid=cj_2dRzgTVHU-M:&tbnh=142&tbnw=111&ei=kXhoT_PwJIPzsga-yaWLCA&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=953&vpy=266&dur=446&hovh=265&hovw=190&tx=142&ty=171&sig=109671639550453137745&page=5&ndsp=25&ved=1t:429,r:17,s:89
Avacyn pw (with some stupid abilities = fake) but it is a nice idea
π
That's {Emrakul, the Aeons Torn}! LOL
The flying spaghetti monster strikes again!!
Bwahahahahahaha!! All hail Xenu! Supreme ruler of the universe!!
Quote from: NillaWafers on March 20, 2012, 11:29:11 AM
The flying spaghetti monster strikes again!!
Bwahahahahahaha!! All hail Xenu! Supreme ruler of the universe!!
My atheist sense is tingling....
When will be get a zombie planeswalker?! D:!!!!
Holy FRAK!!! O_o
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/933
Quote from: BlackJester on March 21, 2012, 02:48:19 AM
Holy FRAK!!! O_o
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/933
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
Quote from: BlackJester on March 21, 2012, 02:48:19 AM
Holy FRAK!!! O_o
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/933
Man, those promos have gotten good.
Wait wait i got alot of sites blocked at school(but noy gathering!!*irish jig*) but what all the commotion about? Cant view the link
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on March 21, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Wait wait i got alot of sites blocked at school(but noy gathering!!*irish jig*) but what all the commotion about? Cant view the link
**SPOILER**
It is a video about the breaking open of Helvault. Avacyn is freed, so is Griselbrand. Liliana's gonna take him on. Metric Tonnes of angels and demons/devils abound. Werewolves become servants for Avacyn. And for Prereleases, some locations will get and actual, scale model of Helvault that will only be opened when players accomplish certain task during. Once opened, there are goodies for everyone attending!!! SICK!!
When is the prerelease? And is griselband becoming a card he looks friction' sick!
W/R werewolves???
Gonna be sick!!!!!
Took me till now to finally watch it. Not going to lie, wasn't impressed...
Haha just kidding! My god am I pumped, too bad the army is sending me away for a few months from prelease to game day... FML
Quote from: Hays413 on March 21, 2012, 09:17:55 PM
Took me till now to finally watch it. Not going to lie, wasn't impressed...
Haha just kidding! My god am I pumped, too bad the army is sending me away for a few months from prelease to game day... FML
Get dishonorably discharged! That's what I'd do:/
Quote from: Mblitz on March 21, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
Quote from: Hays413 on March 21, 2012, 09:17:55 PM
Took me till now to finally watch it. Not going to lie, wasn't impressed...
Haha just kidding! My god am I pumped, too bad the army is sending me away for a few months from prelease to game day... FML
Get dishonorably discharged! That's what I'd do:/
Hahaha that's a good one.
Lol that's what my friend told ne to do! Join the marines smoke some weed, get dishonorably discharged, go home a disgrace yada yada yada!
Quote from: BlackJester on March 21, 2012, 11:34:47 AM
Quote from: BadLuckIrish on March 21, 2012, 10:59:21 AM
Wait wait i got alot of sites blocked at school(but noy gathering!!*irish jig*) but what all the commotion about? Cant view the link
**SPOILER**
It is a video about the breaking open of Helvault. Avacyn is freed, so is Griselbrand. Liliana's gonna take him on. Metric Tonnes of angels and demons/devils abound. Werewolves become servants for Avacyn. And for Prereleases, some locations will get and actual, scale model of Helvault that will only be opened when players accomplish certain task during. Once opened, there are goodies for everyone attending!!! SICK!!
***SPOILER***
... and Grieselbrand looks HARDCORE!!! A hook for a left hand and a mallet for a right?! Finally, demons in force!!! Morover, Im pretty sure the ππ₯ PW from Duels of the Planeswaklers is in it, used as a pawn of Liliana!!! Man, 'dis gon b gud!'
I have my Playset of {sulfur falls} waiting for the U/R Planeswalker. He should be a good fit in delver decks.
Whats the YouTube videos name
Quote from: Theroguard on March 22, 2012, 10:24:44 AM
Whats the YouTube videos name
Avacyn Restored Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=OyCNSD71iME
Quote from: Mblitz on March 21, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
When is the prerelease? And is griselband becoming a card he looks friction' sick!
Still unanswered::)
Quote from: Mblitz on March 22, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: Mblitz on March 21, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
When is the prerelease? And is griselband becoming a card he looks friction' sick!
Still unanswered::)
Tha Deets:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/avacynrestored/productinfo
Prereleases: April 28-29, 2012
Release Date: May 4, 2012
Game Day: May 26-27, 2012
Pro Tour Avacyn Restored: May 11-13, 2012 in Barcelona, Spain
Answered. 8)
Ok and is hook man brand Aka griselbrand becoming a card?
Quote from: BlackJester on March 22, 2012, 03:08:42 PM
Quote from: Mblitz on March 22, 2012, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: Mblitz on March 21, 2012, 03:53:35 PM
When is the prerelease? And is griselband becoming a card he looks friction' sick!
Still unanswered::)
Tha Deets:
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/avacynrestored/productinfo
Prereleases: April 28-29, 2012
Release Date: May 4, 2012
Game Day: May 26-27, 2012
Pro Tour Avacyn Restored: May 11-13, 2012 in Barcelona, Spain
Answered. 8)
Did someone say deets?
http://www.deet.com/
Anyone pre paid for a box or case yet. I got an email the other day.
Quote from: Richardalcala on March 29, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
Anyone pre paid for a box or case yet. I got an email the other day.
I got a case about a month ago from starcity games. I play all formats so I like to have multiple copies of cards.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 29, 2012, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Richardalcala on March 29, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
Anyone pre paid for a box or case yet. I got an email the other day.
I got a case about a month ago from starcity games. I play all formats so I like to have multiple copies of cards.
I think he meant a box of AVR.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 29, 2012, 05:54:15 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 29, 2012, 05:30:26 PM
Quote from: Richardalcala on March 29, 2012, 03:32:24 PM
Anyone pre paid for a box or case yet. I got an email the other day.
I got a case about a month ago from starcity games. I play all formats so I like to have multiple copies of cards.
That's what I'm talking about. Starcity games had avacyn restored for pre-sale for about a month now.
I think he meant a box of AVR.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 29, 2012, 11:49:56 PM
That's what I'm talking about. Starcity games had avacyn restored for pre-sale for about a month now.
How much is a case? I'm too lazy to check.
Quote from: BlackJester on March 30, 2012, 01:16:43 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on March 29, 2012, 11:49:56 PM
That's what I'm talking about. Starcity games had avacyn restored for pre-sale for about a month now.
How much is a case? I'm too lazy to check.
I paid over $650 American. After taxes and shipping of course.
524. For a case if you pre order off alter reality games. Not sure about shipping though. I will probally just get a box or two.
I got next day shipping. That's what really shot the price up.
Just pre-ordered my complete common/uncommon playset on eBay for $38 with shipping. I find these are the best deals. There is always great uncommons and sometimes one uncommon playset could return your entire purchase.....{sensei's diving top} would be a good example.....image buying a Kamigawa playset for $30 back then.
I still have to give Proph props for introducing me to this concept.
Side note: Tomorrow should be the first round of spoilers right?
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 01, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
Just pre-ordered my complete common/uncommon playset on eBay for $38 with shipping. I find these are the best deals. There is always great uncommons and sometimes one uncommon playset could return your entire purchase.....{sensei's diving top} would be a good example.....image buying a Kamigawa playset for $30 back then.
I still have to give Proph props for introducing me to this concept.
Side note: Tomorrow should be the first round of spoilers right?
I love doing this. Me and a buddy split a com/uncommon box off eBay 10 bucks. Apiece Can't beat it.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 01, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
Just pre-ordered my complete common/uncommon playset on eBay for $38 with shipping. I find these are the best deals. There is always great uncommons and sometimes one uncommon playset could return your entire purchase.....{sensei's diving top} would be a good example.....image buying a Kamigawa playset for $30 back then.
I still have to give Proph props for introducing me to this concept.
Side note: Tomorrow should be the first round of spoilers right?
April 9th.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 01, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
Just pre-ordered my complete common/uncommon playset on eBay for $38 with shipping. I find these are the best deals. There is always great uncommons and sometimes one uncommon playset could return your entire purchase.....{sensei's diving top} would be a good example.....image buying a Kamigawa playset for $30 back then.
I still have to give Proph props for introducing me to this concept.
Side note: Tomorrow should be the first round of spoilers right?
No problem. Hint: Since I don't use eBay I don't do this myself. ξ
Quote from: BlackJester on April 01, 2012, 12:07:47 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 01, 2012, 11:20:34 AM
Just pre-ordered my complete common/uncommon playset on eBay for $38 with shipping. I find these are the best deals. There is always great uncommons and sometimes one uncommon playset could return your entire purchase.....{sensei's diving top} would be a good example.....image buying a Kamigawa playset for $30 back then.
I still have to give Proph props for introducing me to this concept.
Side note: Tomorrow should be the first round of spoilers right?
April 9th.
What a great birthday present for myself
Are you ready to meet your savior? You're not ready:
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I understand EVERYTHING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
She is so epic she has her on FB page
For those of you who don't have facebook:
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Avacyn, Angel of Hope 5WWW
Legendary Creature - Angel (M)
Flying, vigilance
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and all other permanents you control are indestructible.
8/8
Quote from: Prophylaxis on April 02, 2012, 08:56:11 PM
For those of you who don't have facebook:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showpost.php?p=8171457&postcount=451
Avacyn, Angel of Hope 5WWW
Legendary Creature - Angel (M)
Flying, vigilance
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and all other permanents you control are indestructible.
8/8
If someone used this against me
Stage 1: before readingπ
Stage 2: While readingπ¨
Stage 3: After reading π±π±π±π±
Great reanimator target!
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 09:10:20 PM
Great reanimator target!
Frites = No. 1 deck
Get yer {Grafdigger's Cage} and frites duals ready, as they will go up in price.
Though they might just run {Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite}..
Should change her name to {avacyn, angel of hope she doesn't tragic slip}
Honestly I'm still disappointed, aside from {heartless summoning} {birthing pod} and frite decks, she's useless, and those decks already have creatures just as potent as she, and aren't winning a whole lot. But I'm sure she'll be a good addition to these decks. Who knows maybe this is what they need to be more consistent in top 8.
Yea saw her today kinda want just one for my gideons weinie deck and does anyone know where to get the novels And what are the called
Quote from: Killin88 on April 02, 2012, 11:43:10 PM
Yea saw her today kinda want just one for my gideons weinie deck and does anyone know where to get the novels And what are the called
There is no novel for innistrad block.
Quote from: Prophylaxis on April 03, 2012, 01:53:59 AM
Quote from: Killin88 on April 02, 2012, 11:43:10 PM
Yea saw her today kinda want just one for my gideons weinie deck and does anyone know where to get the novels And what are the called
There is no novel for innistrad block.
Yet? I haven't found any confirmation yay or nay.
PS I am hereby EXCITED about {Avacyn, Angel of Hope}!!!
If you update your database, the link will work.
Quote from: Piotr on April 03, 2012, 08:46:23 AM
If you update your database, the link will work.
I got an angel of SOMETHING alright. π
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 08:34:38 PM
Are you ready to meet your savior? You're not ready:
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Woah.
Pretty cool? I think she's a little too much though, CMC wise.
Without ramp I don't see her being very Standard worthy, and pulling her a a pre-release would be VERY hard to run, in Limited you have 18 lands, 22 other cards, that's the best way to make Limited decks IMO. To cast her you would need almost half! I don't deny the fact that she is a frekin' TANK though! But Triple White is hard...
She obviously got printed for commander duh :p
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 03, 2012, 12:54:17 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 02, 2012, 08:34:38 PM
Are you ready to meet your savior? You're not ready:
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Woah.
Pretty cool? I think she's a little too much though, CMC wise.
Without ramp I don't see her being very Standard worthy, and pulling her a a pre-release would be VERY hard to run, in Limited you have 18 lands, 22 other cards, that's the best way to make Limited decks IMO. To cast her you would need almost half! I don't deny the fact that she is a frekin' TANK though! But Triple White is hard...
I'm thinking green/white token ramp decks are coming. With birds and llanowars she can be out on turn 4
Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 03, 2012, 12:54:17 PM
Woah.
Pretty cool? I think she's a little too much though, CMC wise.
Without ramp I don't see her being very Standard worthy, and pulling her a a pre-release would be VERY hard to run, in Limited you have 18 lands, 22 other cards, that's the best way to make Limited decks IMO. To cast her you would need almost half! I don't deny the fact that she is a frekin' TANK though! But Triple White is hard...
True, but Limited does play slower... FWIW
Definitely think she a little overpowered.
Everyone just sideboards 4x {tragic slips}, 4x {black suns zenith}, from now on I guess.
And my infect deck may get played a little more before they rotate out. Lol
She's out of this world on the coo factor by all means, art flavor and function.
Her playability is obviously in question, but sometimes that's not what's so important. MTG is about having fun ultimately and she's so sweet.
Anybody thought of cool ways to use her yet? My half serious one was to cast her at instant speed in response to a {Day of Judgement}. Silly I know, but imagine the look on the other guys face. "I just paid four mana to kill my own creatures."
{Quicksilver Amulet}. π
Quote from: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 07:49:30 PM
{Quicksilver Amulet}. π
This is what I thought at first too, then I saw the preorder price online (15 dollars on http://www.starcitygames.com/ )and it dawned on me. LEGACY REANIMATOR!!!
Quote from: darkarts981 on April 03, 2012, 08:38:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 07:49:30 PM
{Quicksilver Amulet}. π
This is what I thought at first too, then I saw the preorder price online (15 dollars on http://www.starcitygames.com/ )and it dawned on me. LEGACY REANIMATOR!!!
True, true. I just like the idea of windmill slapping her down on the table in response to a {NNevinyrral's Disk} going BOOM! XD
Quote from: BlackJester on April 03, 2012, 07:49:30 PM
{Quicksilver Amulet}. π
{Quicksilver amulet} can be used as an instant?
{avacyn, angel of hope} is $15 on star city
To the person asking about cool ways to use her...it may not be as effective as elesh norn or Iona, but sue could be a replacement in the u/w urzatron eldrazi build by luis Scott Vargas. Gifts ungiven her and unburial rights. She could be a half decent modern card if ramped or reanimated properly.
Quote from: Clint9119 on April 05, 2012, 02:57:02 AM
To the person asking about cool ways to use her...it may not be as effective as elesh norn or Iona, but sue could be a replacement in the u/w urzatron eldrazi build by luis Scott Vargas. Gifts ungiven her and unburial rights. She could be a half decent modern card if ramped or reanimated properly.
She'll no doubt see play in standard too. Probably naya pod, wolf run white, and frites!
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=405773
Personally, I'm excited about her, because my Standard Unburial Rites deck can get her out turn two. :D
Quote from: Dawnk41 on April 05, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
Personally, I'm excited about her, because my Standard Unburial Rites deck can get her out turn two. :D
I'm pretty sure that this is the deck I referred to as frites, what's you build?
Quote from: Dawnk41 on April 05, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
Personally, I'm excited about her, because my Standard Unburial Rites deck can get her out turn two. :D
Yeah? Do tell!
Quote from: BlackJester on April 05, 2012, 01:22:12 PM
Quote from: Dawnk41 on April 05, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
Personally, I'm excited about her, because my Standard Unburial Rites deck can get her out turn two. :D
Yeah? Do tell!
Oh yes please! Do tell!
Crazy crazy stuff from PAX panel:
Soulbind
Miracles
Tons of Amazing Angels
Miracle: massive spells that you can cast for dirt cheap if it is the first card you draw that turn.
Think 5 damage for R kind of cheap.
Thunderous Wrath - 4RR, Instant, Thunderous Wrath deals 5 damage to target creature or player. Miracle R (You may cast this card for its Miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn)
πππ
Next card: Silverblade Paladin - 1WW, 2/2, Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. They remain paired as long as you control both of them). As long as Silverblade Paladin is paired with another creature, both creatures have double strike.
Restoration Angel - 3W, Flash, Flying, 3/4, When Restoration Angel enters the battlefield, you may exile target non-angel creature you control then return that creature to the battlefield under your control.
~Venser would be proud.
Sigarda, Host of Herons - 2GWW - Flying, Hexproof, 5/5, spells and abilities your opponents control can't cause you to sacrifice permanents
~Counter-Braids!
Consider yourselves spoiled!
Quote from: BlackJester on April 07, 2012, 05:24:02 PM
Crazy crazy stuff from PAX panel:
Soulbind
Miracles
Tons of Amazing Angels
What is pax?
Penny Arcade Expo. Google that bad-boy!
Quote from: BlackJester on April 07, 2012, 05:53:43 PM
Miracle: massive spells that you can cast for dirt cheap if it is the first card you draw that turn.
Think 5 damage for R kind of cheap.
Love this ability
Where are you finding these cards Jestah!?
Demonlord of ashmouth
2BB
Flying,
When Demonlord of ashmouth comes into the battlefield, exile it unless ou sacrifice a creature
Undying
5/4
Quote from: Clearmario on April 07, 2012, 07:41:00 PM
Demonlord of ashmouth
2BB
Flying,
When Demonlord of ashmouth comes into the battlefield, exile it unless ou sacrifice a creature
Undying
5/4
Now I know this one!
Quote from: Clearmario on April 07, 2012, 07:41:00 PM
Demonlord of ashmouth
2BB
Flying,
When Demonlord of ashmouth comes into the battlefield, exile it unless ou sacrifice a creature
Undying
5/4
Thanks, I missed that one.
Do they still do sealed deck tournaments for prereleases, or draft tournaments or something??
Quote from: Harmon74 on April 07, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
Do they still do sealed deck tournaments for prereleases, or draft tournaments or something??
Yea
Quote from: Harmon74 on April 07, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
Do they still do sealed deck tournaments for prereleases, or draft tournaments or something??
Awwww yeah! This prerelease is going to be OFF THA CHAIN!!!π±π
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/933
Also, for those who have Facebook, the preview cards are all posted there. Otherwise, you'll have to wait until the Monday edition of DailyMtG. Which actually goes live Sunday night.
Database Updated with the latest spoilers.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 07, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
Next card: Silverblade Paladin - 1WW, 2/2, Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. They remain paired as long as you control both of them). As long as Silverblade Paladin is paired with another creature, both creatures have double strike.
Reminds me of a very powerful card from scars block.... *cough {mirran crusader} *cough
Quote from: Greg54js on April 08, 2012, 04:17:16 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 07, 2012, 06:26:44 PM
Next card: Silverblade Paladin - 1WW, 2/2, Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters the battlefield. They remain paired as long as you control both of them). As long as Silverblade Paladin is paired with another creature, both creatures have double strike.
Reminds me of a very powerful card from scars block.... *cough {mirran crusader} *cough
Baby Crusader ξ
Soulbond seems like strictly better Banding
Quote from: Piotr on April 08, 2012, 03:56:33 AM
Database Updated with the latest spoilers.
I think that calls for a beer for Piotr!!!!! Keep the updates coming and we all should keep the beer coming as a show of thanks :)
Im sooo nervous about the prices
What are you guys' thoughts on Miracle as a mechanic? Do you think people will cheat with it?
I like the sense of excitement it would build. Also, top decking on turn one and do 5 damage? Lolwut
Quote from: BlackJester on April 08, 2012, 12:47:49 AM
Quote from: Harmon74 on April 07, 2012, 09:07:02 PM
Do they still do sealed deck tournaments for prereleases, or draft tournaments or something??
Awwww yeah! This prerelease is going to be OFF THA CHAIN!!!π±π
Check it:
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/933
Aww yeah!
Quote from: SpiritedAway on April 08, 2012, 12:28:39 PM
What are you guys' thoughts on Miracle as a mechanic? Do you think people will cheat with it?
I like the sense of excitement it would build. Also, top decking on turn one and do 5 damage? Lolwut
No more than people might have cheated with {Delver of Secrets}.
Also, it'd have to be second turn because you'd need a land in play.
Impretty sure you could play it on turn one as long as you can prove it was the card you drew. The ability says "you may cast this card" not "as you draw"
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 08, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Impretty sure you could play it on turn one as long as you can prove it was the card you drew. The ability says "you may cast this card" not "as you draw"
The exact wording:
Thunderous Wrath - 4RR, Instant, Thunderous Wrath deals 5 damage to target creature or player. Miracle R (You may cast this card for its Miracle cost
when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn)
~Sorry, Fart Sculptor
That is a lame ability IMO
Quote from: BlackJester on April 08, 2012, 05:13:23 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 08, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Impretty sure you could play it on turn one as long as you can prove it was the card you drew. The ability says "you may cast this card" not "as you draw"
The exact wording:
Thunderous Wrath - 4RR, Instant, Thunderous Wrath deals 5 damage to target creature or player. Miracle R (You may cast this card for its Miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn)
~Sorry, Fart Sculptor
So would you just set your 1st card drawn on your turn to the side so you can keep it on the up and up?
Quote from: Harmon74 on April 08, 2012, 05:23:37 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 08, 2012, 05:13:23 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 08, 2012, 04:46:44 PM
Impretty sure you could play it on turn one as long as you can prove it was the card you drew. The ability says "you may cast this card" not "as you draw"
The exact wording:
Thunderous Wrath - 4RR, Instant, Thunderous Wrath deals 5 damage to target creature or player. Miracle R (You may cast this card for its Miracle cost when you draw it if it's the first card you drew this turn)
~Sorry, Fart Sculptor
So would you just set your 1st card drawn on your turn to the side so you can keep it on the up and up?
No. During your draw step, when you draw your first card for the turn, and it's a Miracle card, you may reveal it pay the Miracle cost, and put it on the stack. If you don't cast it when this triggers, it goes to your hand and you can no longer cast it for it's miracle cost.
You can only cast if for cheap right when you draw it, at no other time.
Ohhh so you can cast it on any turn so long as it is the first card you draw and you have the mana to cast it. That is not too bad.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 08, 2012, 05:50:19 PM
Ohhh so you can cast it on any turn so long as it is the first card you draw and you have the mana to cast it. That is not too bad.
I personally think that it's awesome!!
Thank you for the correction bj, and I gotta say this set looks pretty cool, at least the first couple of cards do, lol. The one thing I noticed that has me bugging is that it looks like there may be a lack of planeswalkers according to the pack art. I may be wrong, but PWs usually show up on pack art, and aside from the devil looking dude in an old suit (not the grislebrand one) the others don't look very "PWish" to me.
I've heard there are three this set.
AWSOME!!!!!
Quote from: BlackJester on April 08, 2012, 09:56:05 PM
I've heard there are three this set.
Yeah, I heard that one is this U/R guy who's in the comics, Dack Fayden!
But aren't they usually on the booster pack art?!!!
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 08, 2012, 10:21:01 PM
But aren't they usually on the booster pack art?!!!
Sometimes they like to keep them under wraps.
SPOILER
Griselbrand
4BBBB
Legendary creature- demon ( mythic)
Flying , lifelink
Pay 7 life, draw 7 cards
7/7
I saw this on tcgplayer so idk if it's 100% accurate
Temporal mastery
5UU
Sorcery mythic
Take an extra turn after this one. Exile ~
Miracle 1U
Banishing stroke
5W
Instant( uncommon)
Put target artifact, creature, or enchantment on the bottom of it's owner's library
Miracle W
Where are you getting these!!?
On the tcgplayer forum, a mod is posting them, I just posted the more interesting ones. And this set seems broken
Check www.dailymtg.com
Spoiled card list to date.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 08, 2012, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 08, 2012, 10:21:01 PM
But aren't they usually on the booster pack art?!!!
Sometimes they like to keep them "under wraps."
XD I see what you did there
So with a card like demonic taskmaster, if you have only two of them in play, do you not have to sacrifice them during your upkeep?
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 09, 2012, 01:16:10 AM
So with a card like demonic taskmaster, if you have only two of them in play, do you not have to sacrifice them during your upkeep?
If you have two of them in play (on the battlefield) each one will cause you to sac the other.
Is anyone else super depressed at the two main creatures both won't be playable in standard ? Also..seeing as there is supposed to be 3 planeswalkers...(black jester quote I believe) might we be in for an even more powerful liliana ?
Thalia's PW spark ignites.
Taking a guess, mostly because I want it to happen lol
Quote from: Clint9119 on April 09, 2012, 02:03:47 AM
Is anyone else super depressed at the two main creatures both won't be playable in standard ? Also..seeing as there is supposed to be 3 planeswalkers...(black jester quote I believe) might we be in for an even more powerful liliana ?
I don't think Lilliana will be any more powerful till grislebrand is dead, so, and I hope not, probably not. And with heartless summoning, both of the big creatures are playable in standard. Or even pod decks until return to ravnica comes out.
All Hail Avacyn
I was not too impressed with Avacyn, but I like the demon guy. Almost love, actually, I think I'll build an EDH deck with him as the leader of the pack ;)
I'm a bit puzzled about this whole miracle thing. If I am to cast the card when I draw it, it would seem to me that the new time walk is pretty useless as I cannot cast sorceries in draw phase, hmm?
You can cast miricles anytime
Database Updated with the latest spoilers.
Miracles are to run rampant in Legacy and what not. One word......{brainstorm}. Hell even {noxious revival} may see some play.
Alls I gotta say is {Ponder} plus {Temporal Mastery} is my jam. {Time Walk} here I come.
Quote from: SpiritedAway on April 09, 2012, 11:08:56 AM
Alls I gotta say is {Ponder} plus {Temporal Mastery} is my jam. {Time Walk} here I come.
Ponder is what will make that miracle **** broken holy god the format just broke
So Lilliana did kill grislebrand. Who knows what we're going to see from her new found freedom? I hope the make a chain veil equipment, one that makes swords and jittes look like fodder.
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 09, 2012, 12:54:57 PM
So Lilliana did kill grislebrand. Who knows what we're going to see from her new found freedom? I hope the make a chain veil equipment, one that makes swords and jittes look like fodder.
I could be wrong, but I believe that griselbrand is only the second of the four demons that she gave her soul to
Quote from: Nobbert on April 09, 2012, 01:28:18 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 09, 2012, 12:54:57 PM
So Lilliana did kill grislebrand. Who knows what we're going to see from her new found freedom? I hope the make a chain veil equipment, one that makes swords and jittes look like fodder.
I could be wrong, but I believe that griselbrand is only the second of the four demons that she gave her soul to
87% sure this is two. She's only killed two
Bump that to 100%
PAX East Compiled Info:
Avacyn has three main flights of angels, each will have their own legendary angel card.
There are griffs in AVR β kind of like griffons, but they have heron heads.
Tamed werewolves (wolfir) also, still werewolves but the rage curse is lifted.
Soulbond is a new mechanic in AVR.
Another mechanic introduced β Miracles! These cards have a new frame treatment to help make sure you know to reveal it when you draw. There are no black miracles.
Black and red have cool things like demons for black, and haste for humans.
http://www.magicspoiler.com/avacyn-restored-spoiler/
No black miracles
Lame
Quote from: Hays413 on April 09, 2012, 02:56:50 AM
Thalia's PW spark ignites.
Taking a guess, mostly because I want it to happen lol
Did you watch the trailer on YouTube? After seeing that u think that it's quite possible!
C'mon! No comments on the recently released cards!!! Moon silver spear!!!! And a black card that cost Xb, players sac creatures unless they pay X life for each creature! A green enchantment that gets counters whenever a creature you control attacks, remove counters for any color of mana! I'm starting to think this set is gonna be major OP!
What's up with that black sorcery, and that blue creature? Why do those cards look different??
Quote from: Harmon74 on April 10, 2012, 01:24:37 AM
What's up with that black sorcery, and that blue creature? Why do those cards look different??
They are Special event cards. Special versions of cards that you can only get by participating in specific events.
The Black one would be AWESOME In a creatureless deck.
Heck, even against a swarm deck, if you play it for X=1 it can be pretty potent.
Database Updated.
It just occurred to me that they could be bringing back the P9 as miracle cards!!!! They have {time walk} now let's see the rest.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 10, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
It just occurred to me that they could be bringing back the P9 as miracle cards!!!! They have {time walk} now let's see the rest.
Oh god... a black lotus miracle?
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 10, 2012, 10:47:53 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 10, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
It just occurred to me that they could be bringing back the P9 as miracle cards!!!! They have {time walk} now let's see the rest.
Oh god... a black lotus miracle?
I see it as an arti that costs 3 to cast.....0 to cast and sacrifice as a miracle but the mana does not empty til end of first main phase.
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 10, 2012, 10:47:53 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 10, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
It just occurred to me that they could be bringing back the P9 as miracle cards!!!! They have {time walk} now let's see the rest.
Oh god... a black lotus miracle?
Six of the p9 are mana sources. Not helpful during your draw step. π
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 09, 2012, 09:40:12 PM
PAX East Compiled Info:
Avacyn has three main flights of angels, each will have their own legendary angel card.
There are griffs in AVR β kind of like griffons, but they have heron heads.
Tamed werewolves (wolfir) also, still werewolves but the rage curse is lifted.
Soulbond is a new mechanic in AVR.
Another mechanic introduced β Miracles! These cards have a new frame treatment to help make sure you know to reveal it when you draw. There are no black miracles.
Black and red have cool things like demons for black, and haste for humans.
http://www.magicspoiler.com/avacyn-restored-spoiler/
No black miracles
Lame
Well I dunno but it's not going to have any black as I previously stated
Also I just picked up on this...
{Temporal mastery} is already pre-ordering around 40$
But if my instincts and research yields well, it looks like it'll be in that blue black structure deck
Via this
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/lone-revenant/
{killing wave} currently at $2 preorder. I'm thinking if getting a playset in case it ends up like BSZ. What you guys think?
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on April 10, 2012, 12:06:29 PM
{killing wave} currently at $2 preorder. I'm thinking if getting a playset in case it ends up like BSZ. What you guys think?
I'm glad someone else thinks so, I think it'll be really good one way or the other
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 10, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on April 10, 2012, 12:06:29 PM
{killing wave} currently at $2 preorder. I'm thinking if getting a playset in case it ends up like BSZ. What you guys think?
I'm glad someone else thinks so, I think it'll be really good one way or the other
I like {killing wave} more then BSZ.
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 10, 2012, 11:00:40 AM
Well I dunno but it's not going to have any black as I previously stated
Also I just picked up on this...
{Temporal mastery} is already pre-ordering around 40$
But if my instincts and research yields well, it looks like it'll be in that blue black structure deck
Via this
http://www.magicspoiler.com/mtg-spoiler/lone-revenant/
My Jester-senses are telling me no.
They tend to know what the chase rares are and not include them in intro packs. Event decks maybe.
The inteo packs are usually junk....IMO.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 10, 2012, 02:15:53 PM
The inteo packs are usually junk....IMO.
^this
And I re-read the verbage jester, I think they just meant here's other spoilers in the same color.. Kinda misleading tho
Oh well?
{Vampiric tutor}, and {mystical tutor} are going to be so awesome with miracles!
Quote from: Harmon74 on April 10, 2012, 05:18:51 PM
{Vampiric tutor}, and {mystical tutor} are going to be so awesome with miracles!
I thought the same. Good thing those are only Vintage legal. I don't have the cash to play vintage anyway :)
I just had a {BRAINSTORM}! (not really)
Quote from: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
I just had a {BRAINSTORM}! (not really)
Another good one.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 05:58:10 PM
I just had a {BRAINSTORM}! (not really)
Beat you to it see page 12 :P
{Reclaim}&/or {Noxious Revival} on a stick (AKA {Isochron Scepter}).
So thoughts about {horrorcane}? I think it may see play in multiplayer and edh but not suitable for standard
Am I the only one who's days for the next month will revolve waiting for spoilers at the end of the day.
Quote from: Greg54js on April 10, 2012, 08:45:53 PM
So thoughts about {horrorcane}? I think it may see play in multiplayer and edh but not suitable for standard
Fake. I can't see R&D giving black two scalable sweep spells in the same set, three in Standard.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on April 10, 2012, 08:45:53 PM
So thoughts about {horrorcane}? I think it may see play in multiplayer and edh but not suitable for standard
Fake. I can't see R&D giving black two scalable sweep spells in the same set, three in Standard.
Well it's on the spoilers. I doubt they'd give us fake spoilers...
You can use this site for spoilers.
http://mtgsalvation.com/avacyn-restored-spoiler.html
Quote from: Greg54js on April 11, 2012, 05:09:27 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on April 10, 2012, 08:45:53 PM
So thoughts about {horrorcane}? I think it may see play in multiplayer and edh but not suitable for standard
Fake. I can't see R&D giving black two scalable sweep spells in the same set, three in Standard.
Well it's on the spoilers. I doubt they'd give us fake spoilers...
There are a lot of sites that show fake spoilers. There are a couple of sites that WotC likes and gives previews to them, but not every site.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 10, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 10, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on April 10, 2012, 12:06:29 PM
{killing wave} currently at $2 preorder. I'm thinking if getting a playset in case it ends up like BSZ. What you guys think?
I'm glad someone else thinks so, I think it'll be really good one way or the other
I like {killing wave} more then BSZ.
I think killing wave is kinda useless, it's a sweep card that doesn't reall "level" the playing field like a "sweep" is supposed to. It's an aggro sweep card, which most aggros avoid main decking, and in control decks, your opponents life total is rarely a concern. I still think BSZ beats this out of the water. I pick a play set of {doom blades}, and or {victim of night} over it 9 times out of 10. It all sounds good, but an experienced player will pay the life for the one creature you need dead, if he can afford it.
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 11, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 10, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 10, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on April 10, 2012, 12:06:29 PM
{killing wave} currently at $2 preorder. I'm thinking if getting a playset in case it ends up like BSZ. What you guys think?
I'm glad someone else thinks so, I think it'll be really good one way or the other
I like {killing wave} more then BSZ.
I think killing wave is kinda useless, it's a sweep card that doesn't reall "level" the playing field like a "sweep" is supposed to. It's an aggro sweep card, which most aggros avoid main decking, and in control decks, your opponents life total is rarely a concern. I still think BSZ beats this out of the water. I pick a play set of {doom blades}, and or {victim of night} over it 9 times out of 10. It all sounds good, but an experienced player will pay the life for the one creature you need dead, if he can afford it.
I like it, it favors a couple of large fatties while hosing tokens and weenies. This will play into Black for AVR.
Database Updated. You need to be on the latest iMtG 1.24.1, previous versions no longer supported ;)
Quote from: BlackJester on April 11, 2012, 11:22:10 AM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 11, 2012, 10:51:42 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 10, 2012, 12:55:59 PM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 10, 2012, 12:49:57 PM
Quote from: MaDeM MaD on April 10, 2012, 12:06:29 PM
{killing wave} currently at $2 preorder. I'm thinking if getting a playset in case it ends up like BSZ. What you guys think?
I'm glad someone else thinks so, I think it'll be really good one way or the other
I like {killing wave} more then BSZ.
I think killing wave is kinda useless, it's a sweep card that doesn't reall "level" the playing field like a "sweep" is supposed to. It's an aggro sweep card, which most aggros avoid main decking, and in control decks, your opponents life total is rarely a concern. I still think BSZ beats this out of the water. I pick a play set of {doom blades}, and or {victim of night} over it 9 times out of 10. It all sounds good, but an experienced player will pay the life for the one creature you need dead, if he can afford it.
I like it, it favors a couple of large fatties while hosing tokens and weenies. This will play into Black for AVR.
I was thinking of running it in my Standard B/U Zombie deck. I could just play it for 3 and chuck my crawlers or messengersξ
Quote from: Greg54js on April 11, 2012, 05:09:27 AM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 10, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on April 10, 2012, 08:45:53 PM
So thoughts about {horrorcane}? I think it may see play in multiplayer and edh but not suitable for standard
Fake. I can't see R&D giving black two scalable sweep spells in the same set, three in Standard.
Well it's on the spoilers. I doubt they'd give us fake spoilers...
It's a fake! The pic is on the normal {killing wave}!!
Have y'all seen the new one drop devil?
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 11, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Have y'all seen the new one drop devil?
Uh huh....me likey. I am just wondering if he is better than {goblin guide} for my Legacy deck.
Four damage for R! Aww yeah!
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 11, 2012, 03:50:45 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 11, 2012, 03:49:06 PM
Have y'all seen the new one drop devil?
Uh huh....me likey. I am just wondering if he is better than {goblin guide} for my Legacy deck.
Keep both if you have {spark elemental} replace that.
What is this drop devil you speak of?
Quote from: Harmon74 on April 11, 2012, 05:15:10 PM
What is this drop devil you speak of?
Google "Vexing Devil".
4 copies or 4 damage? ππ
Quote from: BlackJester on April 11, 2012, 05:51:23 PM
4 copies or 4 damage? ππ
Copies, I assume. Or maybe both.
I WANT!!!
God it's awful. At least it doesn't have undying...
Now I've finally gotta build that u/r deck I've been procrastinating
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
Facepalm
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 11, 2012, 06:29:10 PM
God it's awful. At least it doesn't have undying...
Or haste!! πππ
Quote from: Nobbert on April 11, 2012, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
Facepalm
This. idontwanttoliveonthisearthanymore.png
Quote from: loop-s-pool on April 11, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 11, 2012, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
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Satan is the author of confusion
So god made google
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First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
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Quote from: loop-s-pool on April 11, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 11, 2012, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
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Just for the record, she's 5WWW and has vigilance plus flying in addition to the indestructible permanents thing. She's also, you know, in the official image gallery on the mtg site...
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Quote from: loop-s-pool on April 11, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Nobbert on April 11, 2012, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
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Just for the record, she's 5WWW and has vigilance plus flying in addition to the indestructible permanents thing. She's also, you know, in the official image gallery on the mtg site...
I'm speaking soley for myself here but I was speaking out of contempt of the new user's comment about Avacyn without reading any of the thread. I'm pretty sure we all saw Avacyn.
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
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Quote from: Alex2911 on April 11, 2012, 07:11:32 PM
First off, I did NOT read all fifteen pages of this. But Avacyn is going to be a card.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
8/8
3www(someone double check this for me. I forget If it's 3www or 4www)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope and other permanents you control are indestructible.
Hope this helps.
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I know, loop. I was too. But I felt I should correct him anyway.
Sweet! Fresh new Planeswalker! It's blue, and the best part, IT'S NOT JACE!!! πππ
She hails all the way from Kamagawa, a Moonfolk:
{Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/td/190
Quote from: BlackJester on April 12, 2012, 12:21:43 AM
Sweet! Fresh new Planeswalker! It's blue, and the best part, IT'S NOT JACE!!! πππ
She hails all the way from Kamagawa, a Moonfolk.
I love her emblem plus day of judgement, Infinite Days :)
I also realized forbidden alchemy just got 100x better
I love the new plaineswalker. {Thought scour} and her emblem is the new {ancestral recall}.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 12, 2012, 12:21:43 AM
Sweet! Fresh new Planeswalker! It's blue, and the best part, IT'S NOT JACE!!! πππ
She hails all the way from Kamagawa, a Moonfolk:
{Tamiyo, the Moon Sage}
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/td/190
OH MY GOD!!!!!
But wtf is she doing on innistrad lol
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 12, 2012, 12:51:01 AM
But wtf is she doing on innistrad lol
Studying the moon, apparently.
Quote from: TBNL on April 12, 2012, 12:52:29 AM
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 12, 2012, 12:51:01 AM
But wtf is she doing on innistrad lol
Studying the moon, apparently.
There IS some crazy π© goin' down with their moon. {Helvault} is a chunk of moon, after all. π
Spoiler: the innistrad moon is nicol bolas' secret moonbase and it's full of baddies.
That's no moon.
Also, Database Updated.
Im glad im not the only one whos excited about {vexing devil} . Yaay for devils!
New PW... I don't like her face! Lol meh, I don't really like blue, but if I had her, I'd prolly use her.
I think the new PW is horrible!!!! Wow an {icy manipulator} for 5 mana. The thing that upsets me the most is that this means the U/R PW proly won't happen now.
I think she'll be found in every conTROLL deck. I mean, who needs { snapcatser Mage}s when you can have infinite {mana leak}s?
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 12, 2012, 08:48:14 AM
I think the new PW is horrible!!!! Wow an {icy manipulator} for 5 mana. The thing that upsets me the most is that this means the U/R PW proly won't happen now.
o.m.g. Y u suck so muc {tamiya moon Mage} :(((((
Quote from: Killin88 on April 12, 2012, 10:00:43 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 12, 2012, 08:48:14 AM
I think the new PW is horrible!!!! Wow an {icy manipulator} for 5 mana. The thing that upsets me the most is that this means the U/R PW proly won't happen now.
o.m.g. Y u suck so muc {tamiya moon Mage} :(((((
But she doesn't! Her last ability gives her the potential to be completely broken. We are gonna see so infinite {mana leak}ing going on
Quote from: Greg54js on April 12, 2012, 11:04:00 AM
But she doesn't! Her last ability gives her the potential to be completely broken. We are gonna see so infinite {mana leak}ing going on
Yea by what turn 8? Any decent deck would plow through by then. IDK we will see.....I don't like her either way.
Proliferate is helpful... So maybe turn 6ish. It'd have to be a G/U deck tho
The point of PWs ultimates are supposed to be broken.
I think we'll see a U/R PW in Ravnica.
Her first ability is the same as {Ajani Vengeant}'s.
Edit: it's BETTER than Ajani's.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 12, 2012, 12:00:56 PM
The point of PWs ultimates are supposed to be broken.
I think we'll see a U/R PW in Ravnica.
Her first ability is the same as {Ajani Vengeant}'s.
Edit: it's BETTER than Ajani's.
+ land destruction ftw
Bah! I π‘ LD!
Quote from: BlackJester on April 12, 2012, 12:40:51 PM
Bah! I π‘ LD!
LD is fun, but only when your doing though.
Quote from: Piotr on April 12, 2012, 05:19:13 AM
That's no moon.
Also, Database Updated.
At first before I saw the previous context I thought you were talking to me. XP
I am digging {Demonic Taskmaster} he can be a one man wrecking crew. Notice it does not say to sacrifice him if you can't sacrifice another creature. A 4/3 flyer for 2 colorless and 1 black is nuts. I see that guy in an old school mono black control deck that destroys hands, creatures, and controls the board. {Killing Wave} will be awesome with this guy too since you won't have many creatures on the board.
It's a MIRACLE!!
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/s6c3z/exclusive_preview_for_reddit_revenge_of_the_hunted/
Awsome
Quote from: BlackJester on April 12, 2012, 03:28:46 PM
It's a MIRACLE!!
http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/s6c3z/exclusive_preview_for_reddit_revenge_of_the_hunted/
Bigolly it is a miracle!!!!
Playsets of {revenge of the hunted} are going for as low as 6.45 with shipping on eBay. Just trying to decide it is going to be a junk rare under a buck or not.
Bring forth the second Planeswalker!
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/190
The first ever two-mana Planeswalker! π₯π₯
Quote from: BlackJester on April 13, 2012, 12:49:03 AM
Bring forth the second Planeswalker!
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/190
The first ever two-mana Planeswalker! π₯π₯
HOLY F******************!!!!!!
I like the new plaineswalker.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 13, 2012, 01:12:41 AM
I like the new plaineswalker.
Ditto. Great for multiplayer, methinks.
He seems... Underwhelming to me. I like em big. I like em chunky. {Venser, the Sojourner}
I like both the planeswalkers so I plan on using both in my commander deck
I hope we are allowed to say boner on here because the new PW gave me one
You are allowed to say 'boner', even if you may regret it in 10 years time when you grow up.
Also, Database Updated ;)
Thats IT! I am sticking to U/R DELVER!!!!
Quote from: Guypocolypse on April 13, 2012, 07:12:42 AM
Thats IT! I am sticking to U/R DELVER!!!!
Yea, same! It's going to be F*CKING OUT OF HAND!!!!
Am I the only one that feels the flavor of these two PW's seems just random and nothing to do with the story. I mean Avacyn, G-brand, Lili, Thalia, Sorin, Mikey, this is where the story is revolving around. So I would say quite frankly, who the F are these two? Nothing against the cards themselves, they look good in the proper decks, but for me flavor wise, just junk. Seems like the design team drew a couple PW's out of a hat with the intention of making up flimsy stories. Tamiyo is there to study the moon? Give me a freakin' break! That's just weak. Ugh, my tiny rant for the day.
Its gonna be soo beast already and they only revealed 40 cards
Quote from: Hays413 on April 13, 2012, 07:41:26 AM
Am I the only one that feels the flavor of these two PW's seems just random and nothing to do with the story. I mean Avacyn, G-brand, Lili, Thalia, Sorin, Mikey, this is where the story is revolving around. So I would say quite frankly, who the F are these two? Nothing against the cards themselves, they look good in the proper decks, but for me flavor wise, just junk. Seems like the design team drew a couple PW's out of a hat with the intention of making up flimsy stories. Tamiyo is there to study the moon? Give me a freakin' break! That's just weak. Ugh, my tiny rant for the day.
I am unimpressed with thes 2 PW....
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Quote from: Hays413 on April 13, 2012, 07:41:26 AM
Am I the only one that feels the flavor of these two PW's seems just random and nothing to do with the story. I mean Avacyn, G-brand, Lili, Thalia, Sorin, Mikey, this is where the story is revolving around. So I would say quite frankly, who the F are these two? Nothing against the cards themselves, they look good in the proper decks, but for me flavor wise, just junk. Seems like the design team drew a couple PW's out of a hat with the intention of making up flimsy stories. Tamiyo is there to study the moon? Give me a freakin' break! That's just weak. Ugh, my tiny rant for the day.
I am unimpressed with thes 2 PW....
Hate the blue, and I agree, completely random, but Tibalt is pretty sweet. I like how fancy he looks, a half-demon Planeswalker on Innistrad following in the wake of a destroyed Hellvault makes a lot more sense than a frekin' Merfolk from Kami! Wth? I like him though.
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Quote from: Hays413 on April 13, 2012, 07:41:26 AM
Am I the only one that feels the flavor of these two PW's seems just random and nothing to do with the story. I mean Avacyn, G-brand, Lili, Thalia, Sorin, Mikey, this is where the story is revolving around. So I would say quite frankly, who the F are these two? Nothing against the cards themselves, they look good in the proper decks, but for me flavor wise, just junk. Seems like the design team drew a couple PW's out of a hat with the intention of making up flimsy stories. Tamiyo is there to study the moon? Give me a freakin' break! That's just weak. Ugh, my tiny rant for the day.
I am unimpressed with thes 2 PW....
Hate the blue, and I agree, completely random, but Tibalt is pretty sweet. I like how fancy he looks, a half-demon Planeswalker on Innistrad following in the wake of a destroyed Hellvault makes a lot more sense than a frekin' Merfolk from Kami! Wth? I like him though.
Oh yea Tibalt isn't THAT bad, some background on him would be nice, maybe some foreshadowing a few months ago too. This is just bad story telling. IMO. And also, there better be 3 PW's cuz I thought Dakk Fayden(sp) was supposed to be here... No check that, 4 PW's. Where's Thalia's spark!?!
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Quote from: InfinitiveDivinity on April 13, 2012, 07:53:20 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 13, 2012, 07:46:31 AM
Quote from: Hays413 on April 13, 2012, 07:41:26 AM
Am I the only one that feels the flavor of these two PW's seems just random and nothing to do with the story. I mean Avacyn, G-brand, Lili, Thalia, Sorin, Mikey, this is where the story is revolving around. So I would say quite frankly, who the F are these two? Nothing against the cards themselves, they look good in the proper decks, but for me flavor wise, just junk. Seems like the design team drew a couple PW's out of a hat with the intention of making up flimsy stories. Tamiyo is there to study the moon? Give me a freakin' break! That's just weak. Ugh, my tiny rant for the day.
I am unimpressed with thes 2 PW....
Hate the blue, and I agree, completely random, but Tibalt is pretty sweet. I like how fancy he looks, a half-demon Planeswalker on Innistrad following in the wake of a destroyed Hellvault makes a lot more sense than a frekin' Merfolk from Kami! Wth? I like him though.
Oh yea Tibalt isn't THAT bad, some background on him would be nice, maybe some foreshadowing a few months ago too. This is just bad story telling. IMO. And also, there better be 3 PW's cuz I thought Dakk Fayden(sp) was supposed to be here... No check that, 4 PW's. Where's Thalia's spark!?!
I want Thalia to spark to, because elspeth is going out soon, and I don't like gideon and he may go out to
Well I don't know, they would spoil the spoilers if there were some introduction to the new PWs. Let's wait and see if there's a proper follow up story wise before throwing rotten tomatoes at them ;)
So I was thinking about how much I like this new guy, and then I remembered {fog}
Quote from: Piotr on April 13, 2012, 09:28:37 AM
Well I don't know, they would spoil the spoilers if there were some introduction to the new PWs. Let's wait and see if there's a proper follow up story wise before throwing rotten tomatoes at them ;)
That's fair enough, but it just feels like they're putting out PW's then making the story after. And I think that's junk. But if they make Thalia a PW, I'll be happy
The blue PW is there studying the moon, the red PW was in the {Helvault}, Dak is going to be in return to Ravinca, and Thalia is not a PW; liliana just used a spell on her to open the {Helvault}.
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 13, 2012, 10:03:38 AM
The blue PW is there studying the moon, the red PW was in the {Helvault}, Dak is going to be in return to Ravinca, and Thalia is not a PW; liliana just used a spell on her to open the {Helvault}.
That's what I'm saying, studying the moon? Come on! What a joke. And I never said Thalia WAS a PW I just want her to be. Dak and ravnica makes way more sense, sweet.
Quote from: Hays413 on April 13, 2012, 10:08:00 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 13, 2012, 10:03:38 AM
The blue PW is there studying the moon, the red PW was in the {Helvault}, Dak is going to be in return to Ravinca, and Thalia is not a PW; liliana just used a spell on her to open the {Helvault}.
That's what I'm saying, studying the moon? Come on! What a joke. And I never said Thalia WAS a PW I just want her to be. Dak and ravnica makes way more sense, sweet.
Just giving a little back story.
http://mtgsalvation.com/avacyn-restored-spoiler.html
New cards are up!!!πππ
I really like the new U/R utility land.ππππ
I like the setup U/R delver is geting
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 13, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
Anyone think that an angel deck might become a very deadly opponent in the meta game soon?
A demon deck may also become popular and deadly. Now if only they'd reprint {dark ritual} or some sort of black mana accel
Quote from: Greg54js on April 13, 2012, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 13, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
Anyone think that an angel deck might become a very deadly opponent in the meta game soon?
I'm not sure if a clan deck will be so dangerous, yet at least. However I do think heartless summoning wil finally see its full potential with the addition of AVR, I am curious to see what comes next, so far Mage blade is getting most of the love. I figure haunted humans will get some love as well. I haven't seen a shift in power in the meta yet (we're only 40 cards in) but I have a feeling the top tier will only get stronger. Angels have not displayed enough power to change the meta as much as eldrazi did.
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Quote from: Greg54js on April 13, 2012, 03:46:55 PM
Quote from: Alex2911 on April 13, 2012, 03:11:26 PM
Anyone think that an angel deck might become a very deadly opponent in the meta game soon?
I'm not sure if a clan deck will be so dangerous, yet at least. However I do think heartless summoning wil finally see its full potential with the addition of AVR, I am curious to see what comes next, so far Mage blade is getting most of the love. I figure haunted humans will get some love as well. I haven't seen a shift in power in the meta yet (we're only 40 cards in) but I have a feeling the top tier will only get stronger. Angels have not displayed enough power to change the meta as much as eldrazi did.
I agree the {Heartless Summoning} is looking better. Especially w/ B/W or Mono-Black.
I see mono black control making a comeback. We just need them to reprint {hymn to Torach} or {stupor} even.
Do spoilers get released On the weekend?
Quote from: Clearmario on April 14, 2012, 12:23:30 AM
Do spoilers get released On the weekend?
One more week of previews.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 14, 2012, 01:02:33 AM
Quote from: Clearmario on April 14, 2012, 12:23:30 AM
Do spoilers get released On the weekend?
One more week of previews.
I know we have one/ two more weeks but do the continue posting cards on the weekend cuz none have been posted for saturday
Oops! π³
Just a small question this {Gisela Blade of the goldnight}-Angel she doubels all damage
My question is if a Double Strike creature gets a quadro strike
Any damage dealt to an opponent or a permanent they control is doubled, from any source, as long as it deals damage.
I do think that she can be a Great addition but i dont have a Deck to Run her
Desolate lighthouse =)
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 14, 2012, 10:38:49 AM
Desolate lighthouse =)
Love it!! ππππππππππππ!!!!!
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Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 14, 2012, 10:38:49 AM
Desolate lighthouse =)
Love it!! ππππππππππππ!!!!!
I don't even play red blue but I built a red blue deck, if u guys get a chance check It out
Any infin combos yet?
God, I swear the people at WotC were like, "Hey, after coming out with that Delver of Secrets, what cards can we make to give people the perfect deck based around that mechanic?" I mean, it's almost like if you don't play delver you almost don't stand a chance! I hope to see some more NON red blue delver cards...
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 14, 2012, 03:35:09 PM
God, I swear the people at WotC were like, "Hey, after coming out with that Delver of Secrets, what cards can we make to give people the perfect deck based around that mechanic?" I mean, it's almost like if you don't play delver you almost don't stand a chance! I hope to see some more NON red blue delver cards...
*cough* humans! Delver is going to be crazy though!!
Quote from: darkarts981 on April 14, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 14, 2012, 03:35:09 PM
God, I swear the people at WotC were like, "Hey, after coming out with that Delver of Secrets, what cards can we make to give people the perfect deck based around that mechanic?" I mean, it's almost like if you don't play delver you almost don't stand a chance! I hope to see some more NON red blue delver cards...
*cough* humans! Delver is going to be crazy though!!
My thinking is that we already know that there was one planeswalker for each color except for white in this block, with {Liliana of the Veil} for black, {Garruk Relentless} for green, {Tibalt, the Feing-Blooded} for red, and {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} for blue. Maybe a white human could get a spark to complete the five colors! *Cough*thalia*cough*
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 14, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: darkarts981 on April 14, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 14, 2012, 03:35:09 PM
God, I swear the people at WotC were like, "Hey, after coming out with that Delver of Secrets, what cards can we make to give people the perfect deck based around that mechanic?" I mean, it's almost like if you don't play delver you almost don't stand a chance! I hope to see some more NON red blue delver cards...
*cough* humans! Delver is going to be crazy though!!
My thinking is that we already know that there was one planeswalker for each color except for white in this block, with {Liliana of the Veil} for black, {Garruk Relentless} for green, {Tibalt, the Feing-Blooded} for red, and {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} for blue. Maybe a white human could get a spark to complete the five colors! *Cough*thalia*cough*
AVR was confirmed to have 2 planeswalkers.
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Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 14, 2012, 03:43:35 PM
Quote from: darkarts981 on April 14, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 14, 2012, 03:35:09 PM
God, I swear the people at WotC were like, "Hey, after coming out with that Delver of Secrets, what cards can we make to give people the perfect deck based around that mechanic?" I mean, it's almost like if you don't play delver you almost don't stand a chance! I hope to see some more NON red blue delver cards...
*cough* humans! Delver is going to be crazy though!!
My thinking is that we already know that there was one planeswalker for each color except for white in this block, with {Liliana of the Veil} for black, {Garruk Relentless} for green, {Tibalt, the Feing-Blooded} for red, and {Tamiyo, the Moon Sage} for blue. Maybe a white human could get a spark to complete the five colors! *Cough*thalia*cough*
AVR was confirmed to have 2 planeswalkers.
Oh, okay, I thought I heard 3. Thanks!
{Sorin, lord of Innastrad} is the white Planeswalker
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 14, 2012, 04:59:16 PM
{Sorin, lord of Innastrad} is the white Planeswalker
Ah, I forgot about him, thanks!
Have y'all seen {Reforge the Soul}? It's a 5 drop {Wheel of Fortune} with a miracle cost of 2!
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 14, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Have y'all seen {Reforge the Soul}? It's a 5 drop {Wheel of Fortune} with a miracle cost of 2!
I looked on mtg salvation and they said this card is awesome, how is it any different from {time reversal} besides shuffling your graveyard into your deck
Quote from: Clearmario on April 15, 2012, 01:21:42 AM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 14, 2012, 11:32:17 PM
Have y'all seen {Reforge the Soul}? It's a 5 drop {Wheel of Fortune} with a miracle cost of 2!
I looked on mtg salvation and they said this card is awesome, how is it any different from {time reversal} besides shuffling your graveyard into your deck
Because it can reset your hand while making your opponent discard his hand and his/her current game plan. Also in frites it is really good. Or any reanimater deck for that matter.
Have y'all seen the new spoilers? There are some good stuff.
Since when has green been known as being strong in the unblockable department????
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 16, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Since when has green been known as being strong in the unblockable department????
Well there is trample and landwalk but that's about it.
I don't play green and I like {wolfir silverheart}. Pair that with the {silverblade paladin} or with the the new {champion of lambholt} seems like fun. Plus {Appetite for brains} is such a flavorful card and has its uses. {decent into madness} is Intresting to say the least. {goldnight redeemer} seems like a limited or pod card. {Nephalia smuggler} would be better if his ability costed 3 and not 4.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 16, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Since when has green been known as being strong in the unblockable department????
{Lure}, making all your other creatures "unblockable".
Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 16, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Since when has green been known as being strong in the unblockable department????
{Lure}, making all your other creatures "unblockable".
I get {lure} cuz it is still trading creature damage. I guess when I think green I think of massive creatures with trample that do not really need to be unblockable. Adding these evasive guys just seems like a shift from the roots of green. IDK maybe I am being to overly critical.
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Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 01:30:40 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 16, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
Since when has green been known as being strong in the unblockable department????
{Lure}, making all your other creatures "unblockable".
I get {lure} cuz it is still trading creature damage. I guess when I think green I think of massive creatures with trample that do not really need to be unblockable. Adding these evasive guys just seems like a shift from the roots of green. IDK maybe I am being to overly critical.
ROOTS of green. I see what you did there π
Of which evasive green guys are you referring?
Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
Of which evasive green guys are you referring?
Probably {champion of lambholt}
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 16, 2012, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
Of which evasive green guys are you referring?
Probably {champion of lambholt}
Oh, because precedent was set conditional unblockable with {Aura Gnarlid}, {Battering Wurm}, and {Skarrgan Pit-Skull}. I like to think of it as "Bullying". Similar to Intimidate, but more combat related.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 02:35:19 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 16, 2012, 02:20:59 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 02:19:23 PM
Of which evasive green guys are you referring?
Probably {champion of lambholt}
Oh, because precedent was set conditional unblockable with {Aura Gnarlid}, {Battering Wurm}, and {Skarrgan Pit-Skull}. I like to think of it as "Bullying". Similar to Intimidate, but more combat related.
Yea those did come to mind and I suppose the "bullying" analogy does justify it.
Yeah. I think "Intimidation" fits better, but that's already in use. I still don't get how a tiny 2/2 ghost ({Spectral Rider}} can intimidate a massive 6/6 green wurm. ??? :-\
Mtg salvation posted a new land. It's the red and white land that gives a creature you control +2/+0 haste and vigilance
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 16, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
Mtg salvation posted a new land. It's the red and white land that gives a creature you control +2/+0 haste and vigilance
SHUT THE FFFFFFront door!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 16, 2012, 03:52:44 PM
Quote from: ChrisRodriguez on April 16, 2012, 03:43:59 PM
Mtg salvation posted a new land. It's the red and white land that gives a creature you control +2/+0 haste and vigilance
SHUT THE FFFFFFront door!!!!!!!!!
Yup and it just cost WR and tapping the utility land.
That land is gonna be ridiculous in my R/W double strike deck!!!!! Boros FTW
Boros is gonna be good. Especially when "return to Ravinca" comes out in October.
That land just screams "use me for double strike dummy". The haste and vigilance is just in added benefit.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 03:28:04 PM
Yeah. I think "Intimidation" fits better, but that's already in use. I still don't get how a tiny 2/2 ghost ({Spectral Rider}} can intimidate a massive 6/6 green wurm. ??? :-\
Because its a g-g-g ghost!
RW and tap it, really I feel for stensia blood halls to be like 5cmc to use it and for that rediculous ability for r/w is totally unbalanced
Quote from: BlackJester on April 16, 2012, 03:28:04 PM
Yeah. I think "Intimidation" fits better, but that's already in use. I still don't get how a tiny 2/2 ghost ({Spectral Rider}} can intimidate a massive 6/6 green wurm. ??? :-\
{bellowing tanglewurm}
Meh let him intimidate and hit for two, when you can hit for 20+ the next turn :)
I like the land, it's legit, I just don't like that's have to activate it before declaring attackers! Well to get the full benefits at least. I'll still use it though!
Database Updated.
I fear I'm going to love this AVR a little too much. My gf and friends shall disown me through embarrassment.
Quote from: Spikepit on April 17, 2012, 10:07:11 PM
I fear I'm going to love this AVR a little too much. My gf and friends shall disown me through embarrassment.
Just wait til we go back to see Orzhov. ππ
SPLAT!!!
(that was my brain]
Quote from: BlackJester on April 18, 2012, 01:10:40 AM
Quote from: Spikepit on April 17, 2012, 10:07:11 PM
I fear I'm going to love this AVR a little too much. My gf and friends shall disown me through embarrassment.
Just wait til we go back to see Orzhov. ππ
I will be crazed
Okay has anyone seen {praetor's gambit} because I freaked when they replaced unholy strength forth that bastardized one in 12 for 2cmc?
But the same thing with the potential of intimidate for 1(B)
Omg infect got dumb again
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 18, 2012, 09:58:04 AM
Okay has anyone seen {praetor's gambit} because I freaked when they replaced unholy strength forth that bastardized one in 12 for 2cmc?
But the same thing with the potential of intimidate for 1(B)
Omg infect got dumb again
Google is not giving me praetor's gambit. Where is it?
I mana black enchant creature enchanted creature gets +2/+1 and has intimidate if enchanted creature is the only creature you control
Salvation forums spoiler page
Let me link
http://mtgsalvation.com/avacyn-restored-spoiler.html#Black
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 18, 2012, 12:52:03 PM
Salvation forums spoiler page
Let me link
http://mtgsalvation.com/avacyn-restored-spoiler.html#Black
Oh {Predator's Gambit}! lulz ;)
Predator =/= Praetor
How bout the G/U utility land? It's name has still not been released but the text is up on mtgsalv. Giving everything flash until end of turn could be interesting
Quote from: Greg54js on April 18, 2012, 04:18:50 PM
How bout the G/U utility land? It's name has still not been released but the text is up on mtgsalv. Giving everything flash until end of turn could be interesting
Sure but you already tapped 3 lands to get flash. Good late game I suppose.
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 18, 2012, 04:47:41 PM
Quote from: Greg54js on April 18, 2012, 04:18:50 PM
How bout the G/U utility land? It's name has still not been released but the text is up on mtgsalv. Giving everything flash until end of turn could be interesting
Sure but you already tapped 3 lands to get flash. Good late game I suppose.
Is that not the same logic with the u/r utility land, Does essentially tapping 4 mana to drop and pick up a card worth it or is that trash competitively
Anyone else hear about cavern of souls?
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 18, 2012, 06:25:25 PM
Anyone else hear about cavern of souls?
Yeah, it's crazy as hell!!
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 18, 2012, 06:25:25 PM
Anyone else hear about cavern of souls?
Would you care to share this with the rest o the class? Hmmm?
Quote from: BlackJester on April 18, 2012, 11:45:54 PM
Quote from: 1337m00nm4n on April 18, 2012, 06:25:25 PM
Anyone else hear about cavern of souls?
Would you care to share this with the rest o the class? Hmmm?
This might have been sarcastic and definitely wasn't referring to me, but for those who don't know it's:
Land
As Cavern of Souls enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
(T): add 1 to your mana pool
(T): add one mana of any color to your mana pool, use this mana only to cast a creature spell of the chosen type, a spell cast using this mana can't be countered
HOLY HELL BATMAN!! π±π±π±
Quote from: BlackJester on April 19, 2012, 12:49:01 AM
HOLY HELL BATMAN!! π±π±π±
And thus, Jester needs a change of pants
I heard there's going to be some serious angel power in AR... Like over 150 angels... That true?
More Demons!!!
Quote from: LINKofDREAMS on April 19, 2012, 05:32:11 AM
I heard there's going to be some serious angel power in AR... Like over 150 angels... That true?
Definitely under 150.. The set is only 244 cards
{Desolate Lighthouse}... holy ξ!!!
This card is too good!
"Everything in your hand is now a {Think Twice}"
Umm, okay? This thing wins frekin games!
{Misthollow Griffin} 2β£π¦π¦
Creature - Griffin M
Flying
You may cast Misthollow Griffin from exile
βββββββββββββ
{Archwing Dragon} 2β£π₯π₯
Creature - Dragon R
Flying, haste
At the beginning of the end step, return Archwing Dragon to its owner's hand.
{Sundial of the Infinite} gets more fodder...
{Malignus}. 3β£π₯π₯
Creature - Elemental Spirit M
Malingus' power and toughness Are each equal to half the highest life total amoung your opponents, rounded up.
Damage that would be dealt by Malignus can't be prevented.
{Infinite Reflection} 5β£π¦
Enchantment - Aura R
When Infinite Reflection enters the battlefield attached to a creature, each other nontoken creature you control becomes a copy of that creature.
Nontoken creatures you control enter the battlefield as a copy of enchanted creature.
{Essence of the Wild} of the chain?
Did someone say a board of weenie goblins turning into {Hellrider}s for game?
Quote from: Maximo on April 19, 2012, 12:10:33 PM
Did someone say a board of weenie goblins turning into {Hellrider}s for game?
Holy crap!!! That's insane!!!!
Database Updated.
Yeah, so.... The entire set's posted now...
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/avacynrestored/cig
What are your thoughts everyone?
Did you guys see there's a card called {Spirit Away}! :D
Quote from: SpiritedAway on April 23, 2012, 01:19:07 AM
What are your thoughts everyone?
Did you guys see there's a card called {Spirit Away}! :D
I can barely even process it right now. Too much goodness! I need to stare blankly at the list for a few hours, uninterruptedly.
Already ordered my cards to build a deck with a turn four infinite damage combo, if I can pull it off. Seems pretty simple though.
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 23, 2012, 03:40:24 PM
Already ordered my cards to build a deck with a turn four infinite damage combo, if I can pull it off. Seems pretty simple though.
I'm intrigued... ???
Quote from: BlackJester on April 23, 2012, 03:45:58 PM
Quote from: Jake, Fart Sculptor on April 23, 2012, 03:40:24 PM
Already ordered my cards to build a deck with a turn four infinite damage combo, if I can pull it off. Seems pretty simple though.
I'm intrigued... ???
Same π²
I'll give you a hint, it uses humans and {vigilante justice}
BJ see my post in rules "blinking" for a better clue, and please answer my question!!!
Anyone else feel there are a lot of junk rares in this set?
There's lots of junk rares in any big set, isn't there?
Quote from: Maximo on April 24, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
There's lots of junk rares in any big set, isn't there?
Let me re-phrase......there's not a lot of good rares in this set. {temporal mastery} and {vexing devil} being the star players IMO. The PWs are just meh.....
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 24, 2012, 04:02:36 PM
Anyone else feel there are a lot of junk rares in this set?
"One person's trash... is probably a Johnny card." :P
Of which rares are you referring?
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 24, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Maximo on April 24, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
There's lots of junk rares in any big set, isn't there?
Let me re-phrase......there's not a lot of good rares in this set. {temporal mastery} and {vexing devil} being the star players IMO. The PWs are just meh.....
You dont feel {cavern of souls} is a big player?
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 24, 2012, 04:56:51 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 24, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Maximo on April 24, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
There's lots of junk rares in any big set, isn't there?
Let me re-phrase......there's not a lot of good rares in this set. {temporal mastery} and {vexing devil} being the star players IMO. The PWs are just meh.....
You dont feel {cavern of souls} is a big player?
NM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 24, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Maximo on April 24, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
There's lots of junk rares in any big set, isn't there?
Let me re-phrase......there's not a lot of good rares in this set. {temporal mastery} and {vexing devil} being the star players IMO. The PWs are just meh.....
{Vexing Devil} is solid. I think {Temporal Mastery} is getting a little over-hyped IMHO. Like Sorin, LoI. I DO think there are some good cards this go round, and I think if people can make it past early-game aggro, that some of these high CMC cards are going to be relevant.
I'd also like to try {Griselbrand} with {Heartless Summoning} and cheap stuff.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 24, 2012, 05:16:52 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on April 24, 2012, 04:36:21 PM
Quote from: Maximo on April 24, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
There's lots of junk rares in any big set, isn't there?
Let me re-phrase......there's not a lot of good rares in this set. {temporal mastery} and {vexing devil} being the star players IMO. The PWs are just meh.....
{Vexing Devil} is solid. I think {Temporal Mastery} is getting a little over-hyped IMHO. Like Sorin, LoI. I DO think there are some good cards this go round, and I think if people can make it past early-game aggro, that some of these high CMC cards are going to be relevant.
I'd also like to try {Griselbrand} with {Heartless Summoning} and cheap stuff.
I think outside standard use, lots of great edh cards and themed casual decks
I just realized that with AVR, the power level is crazy. For R/B/U Aggro
T1 {vexing devil} 4/3
T2 {torpor orb}
T3 {treacherous pit-dweller} 4/3 and {faithless looting} *discard 2 creatures
T4 {Skaab ruinator} 5/6 ({vexing devil} + 2 creatures}
T5 {Demonlord of ashmouth} 5/4
This would have to require the perfect hand but it seems quite good
I'm puzzled why is everyone so excited about {Vexing Devil}. It's a bloody sorcery which causes 4 damage to target player. So what, I have 16 left and you're a card out :P
Quote from: Piotr on April 25, 2012, 01:42:11 PM
I'm puzzled why is everyone so excited about {Vexing Devil}. It's a bloody sorcery which causes 4 damage to target player. So what, I have 16 left and you're a card out :P
Me personally would use it in my burn deck, anything else then yah I'm out a card but 4 damage or a 4/3 creature for just 1 mana is crazy
4 damage ONLY to a opponent. It is NEVER a 4/3 creature, unless the creature doesn't make any difference anyway because the opponent has board superiority. It's useless.
Quote from: Piotr on April 25, 2012, 01:49:52 PM
4 damage ONLY to a opponent. It is NEVER a 4/3 creature, unless the creature doesn't make any difference anyway because the opponent has board superiority. It's useless.
Like I was saying though, perfect for a burn deck as a 1st-3rd turn card
Well of course, but I'm pretty sure it's useless in RDW outside Standard.
Quote from: Piotr on April 25, 2012, 01:55:28 PM
Well of course, but I'm pretty sure it's useless in RDW outside Standard.
Yah, but for standard it's pretty good :3
Four damage to a player for R is still pretty good for RDW, I think. I'll leave it up to more knowledgeable players than myself though.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 25, 2012, 01:59:06 PM
Four damage to a player for R is still pretty good for RDW, I think. I'll leave it up to more knowledgeable players than myself though.
4 damage for 1 mana is pretty good
T1 vexxing, take 4. T2 goblin arsonist, goblin grenade. 10 life left after 2 turns? Yeah that's not good.
Quote from: Willthomjr on April 25, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
T1 vexxing, take 4. T2 goblin arsonist, goblin grenade. 10 life left after 2 turns? Yeah that's not good.
I do see one issue with {Vexing Devil}, the more the game progresses, the less impact it has. He's 4 damage early game when your opponent has more life, and a 4/3 when your opponent has drawn into more answers or fatties. I do appreciate what Piotr's saying, in that it's inconsistent because your opponent can chose the lesser of two evils.
I also think that Standard format is what causes the buzzing. We Vintage players players are crotchety old folks with insanely high standards. ;)
Less imPact as the game goes, to an extent. Strictly speaking of standard of course.
A 4/3 for 1 mana in any circumstance is great! Since when is it a bad thing?
I think the hype is appropriate. Not broken, a huge boost and a staple in a RDW for sure
Quote from: Willthomjr on April 25, 2012, 03:02:47 PM
Less imPact as the game goes, to an extent. Strictly speaking of standard of course.
A 4/3 for 1 mana in any circumstance is great! Since when is it a bad thing?
I think the hype is appropriate. Not broken, a huge boost and a staple in a RDW for sure
If your opponent is at 6 life, and can kill you with the creatures on the table, they'll take the 4 damage and you'll wish you had a blocker.
If your opponent has nothing on the table and is looking to stabilize and is sitting at 25 life. They'll take the damage.
If your opponent is at 2 life, but has a {Doom Blade} in hand, they'll let you have a 4/3.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 25, 2012, 02:44:50 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on April 25, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
T1 vexxing, take 4. T2 goblin arsonist, goblin grenade. 10 life left after 2 turns? Yeah that's not good.
I do see one issue with {Vexing Devil}, the more the game progresses, the less impact it has. He's 4 damage early game when your opponent has more life, and a 4/3 when your opponent has drawn into more answers or fatties. I do appreciate what Piotr's saying, in that it's inconsistent because your opponent can chose the lesser of two evils.
I also think that Standard format is what causes the buzzing. We Vintage players players are crotchety old folks with insanely high standards. ;)
Exactly, but it's a sure staple in red decks everywhere in standard
Quote from: BlackJester on April 25, 2012, 02:44:50 PM
I also think that Standard format is what causes the buzzing. We Vintage players players are crotchety old folks with insanely high standards. ;)
Agreed, that is why this set is kinda like meh to me. I do like the black cards like {demonic taskmaster}, {demonlord of ashmouth}, {gloom surgeon}, {dark impostor}, and {treacherous pit-dweller}......I even like {homicidal seclusion} just wish it didn't cost 5 CMC.
Quote from: BlackJester on April 25, 2012, 03:08:10 PM
Quote from: Willthomjr on April 25, 2012, 03:02:47 PM
Less imPact as the game goes, to an extent. Strictly speaking of standard of course.
A 4/3 for 1 mana in any circumstance is great! Since when is it a bad thing?
I think the hype is appropriate. Not broken, a huge boost and a staple in a RDW for sure
If your opponent is at 6 life, and can kill you with the creatures on the table, they'll take the 4 damage and you'll wish you had a blocker.
If your opponent has nothing on the table and is looking to stabilize and is sitting at 25 life. They'll take the damage.
If your opponent is at 2 life, but has a {Doom Blade} in hand, they'll let you have a 4/3.
A lot of ifs. You're playin RDW late you're doing it wrong. <t5-6 win very easily.
All of the points you said ate true. I think first hand the opponent has a really tough choice, thus the buzz.
Quote from: Willthomjr on April 25, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
T1 vexxing, take 4. T2 goblin arsonist, goblin grenade. 10 life left after 2 turns? Yeah that's not good.
You're out 3 cards and I didn't even do anything. I spent zero mana. That's not good, that's brilliant, thank you!
Quote from: Willthomjr on April 25, 2012, 06:00:40 PM
A lot of ifs. You're playin RDW late you're doing it wrong. <t5-6 win very easily.
All of the points you said ate true. I think first hand the opponent has a really tough choice, thus the buzz.
I still think it's a good card, don't get me wrong. Just playing "devil's advocate" ;)
You asked when a 4/3 for 1 is a bad thing, so I gave you some scenarios. I many cases, this guy is a good opener, lousy finisher. With every turn that passes, his value goes down. Still, in a deck that plans to win T4-6, probably won't matter, but I can see players wishing they'd drawn a kill spell instead.
Quote from: Willthomjr on April 25, 2012, 06:00:40 PMI think first hand the opponent has a really tough choice, thus the buzz.
Tough choice? Unless I hold a {Doom Blade}, I take the damage, it's not a choice it's a no brainer. You're not getting to keep a 4/3 crit on T1 unless you're playing a Zombie.
Think about it, you're giving me Dismember for free. Really, thanks!
Really it would have been amazing if it coulda worked with Chandra's Phoenix, however she unfortunately only works when it's a red instant sorcery or pw
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 25, 2012, 06:53:26 PM
Really it would have been amazing if it coulda worked with Chandra's Phoenix, however she unfortunately only works when it's a red instant sorcery or pw
I thought it was a red source? Maybe I'm thinking of a diff card
Quote from: DirtyMustachio on April 25, 2012, 06:53:26 PM
Really it would have been amazing if it coulda worked with {Chandra's Phoenix}, however she unfortunately only works when it's a red instant sorcery or pw
I have played all week with the new cards (proxy) and the thing I can say about them is ... Green are so much Op !
The fact that they can play a 6/6 (Titan in example) on turn 3 it's just horrible ... Then on turn 4 they can soul bound them with the card that give +4/4 to swing for a 10 trample
They can really have over 10 mana around turn 4-5 ( no joke )
I thougt red was going to shine ... But green is 2000% better
Quote from: Dywolf on April 27, 2012, 09:13:37 PM
I have played all week with the new cards (proxy) and the thing I can say about them is ... Green are so much Op !
The fact that they can play a 6/6 (Titan in example) on turn 3 it's just horrible ... Then on turn 4 they can soul bound them with the card that give +4/4 to swing for a 10 trample
They can really have over 10 mana around turn 4-5 ( no joke )
I thougt red was going to shine ... But green is 2000% better
Scary
Prerelease told me that blue is tricky, red is annoying. But green is NASTY
{invisible stalker}
{wolfir silverheart}
I'm thinking of going Simic tomorrow, but I don't wan to decide until I see my pool.
Quote from: Guypocolypse on April 29, 2012, 12:58:30 AM
{invisible stalker}
{wolfir silverheart}
OMG! thanks you just helped me edit the U/G soulbond intro deck!! It's gonna be nasty
Quote from: Greg54js on April 29, 2012, 10:52:21 AM
Quote from: Guypocolypse on April 29, 2012, 12:58:30 AM
{invisible stalker}
{wolfir silverheart}
OMG! thanks you just helped me edit the U/G soulbond intro deck!! It's gonna be nasty
Add {batterskull}