Do we all know that there are myths out there. Not ones about gods or demigods, but ones of new species. We have all heard the basic myths such as Bigfoot, werewolf, vampires, etc.. Then there are extravagant ones such as bugman, etc... I don't know a lot of extravagant ones myself, but still. Anyway, what if they aren't myths? What if we were wrong dismissing these mythical creatures as non-existent. You may say we should have seen them by now, or that we would see signs of some sort. But think harder. About possibilities. Think about all the species we have found sitting right under our noses, some things we didn't know existed or were even possible. We may have found many animals, but along with those discoveries are even more species we have yet to uncover. Whose to say these mythical creatures are simply species we haven't uncovered. Or perhaps, we refuse to uncover due to our innermost fear that these creatures are real.
Disscus this possibility.
Oooo. What if god did exist? Then we'd all be killing children for talking back to us, murdering our neighbors for working on the sabbath and begging for forgiveness from a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak, vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent celestial dictator.
I shutter at the thought.
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Oooo. What if god did exist? Then we'd all be killing children for talking back to us, murdering our neighbors for working on the sabbath and begging for forgiveness from a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak, vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent celestial dictator.
I shutter at the thought.
^^ Why I don't believe in organized religion. Some things just don't make sense so I don't shape my beliefs to my religion, I try to shape my religion to my beliefs.
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Quote from: Dudecore on September 14, 2013, 10:50:30 PM
Oooo. What if god did exist? Then we'd all be killing children for talking back to us, murdering our neighbors for working on the sabbath and begging for forgiveness from a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak, vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent celestial dictator.
I shutter at the thought.
And if god wasn't Jehovah?
Not quite sure I understand what you're getting at. I just was making a joke...about how crazy it is to believe in made-up things.
I know that this in this section we can express our feelings, and I will.
I'm personally a Christian. Although I will not refute anything anyone has said, as I wish to be respectful and not start a thread fight, I just want to say that it's not all like that. There are things I don't understand why in my religion, but I guess it's different. Idk what I'm saying.
I respect others opinions. And I will not insult them. I hope I can have the same respect.
But I'll get off this thread, and I apologize if I offended anyone
Quote from: Dudecore on September 14, 2013, 10:50:30 PM
Oooo. What if god did exist? Then we'd all be killing children for talking back to us, murdering our neighbors for working on the sabbath and begging for forgiveness from a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak, vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent celestial dictator.
I shutter at the thought.
I found that quite offensive. :(
While it is true that people are killed in the name of God and heresy and sacrificed to false idols, I did not think that that rant was neccissary or relevant to the topic.
Quote from: DylanW18 on September 14, 2013, 10:58:26 PM
I know that this in this section we can express our feelings, and I will.
I'm personally a Christian. Although I will not refute anything anyone has said, as I wish to be respectful and not start a thread fight, I just want to say that it's not all like that. There are things I don't understand why in my religion, but I guess it's different. Idk what I'm saying.
I respect others opinions. And I will not insult them. I hope I can have the same respect.
But I'll get off this thread, and I apologize if I offended anyone
Everyone should take it easy. It was just a joke. I just listed all the crimes god commits and condones, pulled from the book he wrote (the bible is the literal word of god after all) for comedic effect. It seemed to suite the topic of myths very well.
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My point was that god (if he exists), is a being whose existence is beyond empirical evidence. Your observation is based on the Hebrew interpretation of god, while I think of god as something that may or may not be there, we'll probably never know for sure. It is therefore silly to dismiss him based on the interpretation of an ancient civilization
How do we know a god could exist beyond empirical evidence? I found a fault in the foundation. I can say anything exists then, and we must respect my ideas, and not dismiss them as silly just because I believe them without evidence - like billions of people in this world do. I reject this claim.
:( while I understand it was a joke, it is more hurtful than funny to some people.
I agree that there are things in there even I don't agree with. I'm personally bi sexual and him destroying Sodom and Gommorah is very uncomfortable for me. (Although there are theories that wasn't the only reason, but I digress)
I apologize for not seeing it as a joke, and getting offended.
Agree to disagree?
And +1 for dealing with me
El chupacabre is a big thing in my surrounding territory. It would be neat if they were real.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:03:40 PM
:( while I understand it was a joke, it is more hurtful than funny to some people.
Find a new god you're comfortable, with. Humans have been doing it for millennia. Or just make up your own - no one can prove you wrong!
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I know that this in this section we can express our feelings, and I will.
I'm personally a Christian. Although I will not refute anything anyone has said, as I wish to be respectful and not start a thread fight, I just want to say that it's not all like that. There are things I don't understand why in my religion, but I guess it's different. Idk what I'm saying.
I respect others opinions. And I will not insult them. I hope I can have the same respect.
But I'll get off this thread, and I apologize if I offended anyone
Everyone should take it easy. It was just a joke. I just listed all the crimes god commits and condones, pulled from the book he wrote (the bible is the literal word of god after all) for comedic effect. It seemed to suite the topic of myths very well.
...according to a narrow sect of Christianity that is slowly fading out. Most non-US Christians don't take the Bible literally anymore, nor do most non-Orthodox Jews. Perhaps if this were a fundamentalist dominated forum, your joke might be appropriate, but here it's kind of insulting, as I'd consider people here more sophisticated than that.
Which verse of the bible gives you the authority to interpret the bible as you see fit? Certainly it is not the bible itself, but societies need to outgrow its Iron Age philosophies.
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El chupacabre is a big thing in my surrounding territory. It would be neat if they were real.
Goat sucker...it doesn't have the same ring in English.
It sounds perverted hahah.
I also would like to think that unicorns were real at some point in time. And dragons.
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:( while I understand it was a joke, it is more hurtful than funny to some people.
Find a new god you're comfortable, with. Humans have been doing it for millennia. Or just make up your own - no one can prove you wrong!
I am quite comfortable with THE God. It is your accusations of God that make me uncomfortable.
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:( while I understand it was a joke, it is more hurtful than funny to some people.
Find a new god you're comfortable, with. Humans have been doing it for millennia. Or just make up your own - no one can prove you wrong!
I am quite comfortable with THE God. It is your accusations of God that make me uncomfortable.
I didn't write the bible, presumably your holy book. The god of Abraham did. You've got a bone to pick with him instead.
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:( while I understand it was a joke, it is more hurtful than funny to some people.
Find a new god you're comfortable, with. Humans have been doing it for millennia. Or just make up your own - no one can prove you wrong!
I am quite comfortable with THE God. It is your accusations of God that make me uncomfortable.
There exists a way to hide such uncomfortable comments ;) Asking someone to taper their views and comments is unfair if they aren't breaking iMtG law.
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:( while I understand it was a joke, it is more hurtful than funny to some people.
Find a new god you're comfortable, with. Humans have been doing it for millennia. Or just make up your own - no one can prove you wrong!
I am quite comfortable with THE God. It is your accusations of God that make me uncomfortable.
I didn't write the bible, presumably your holy book. The god of Abraham did. You've got a bone to pick with him instead.
I don't find fault with the Bible, I find fault with your apparent hatred of it. :(
I really think perhaps we should stick to the intended purpose of this thread. We can't change eachother, we believe what we believe. Understanding eachother is vital. And whether or not you agree, regardless of what they say, lets be respectful please
Yes, we should post things reletive to the topic I suppose. I'm sorry for being blunt but when my beliefs are insulted, I feel inclined to respond.
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:( while I understand it was a joke, it is more hurtful than funny to some people.
Find a new god you're comfortable, with. Humans have been doing it for millennia. Or just make up your own - no one can prove you wrong!
I am quite comfortable with THE God. It is your accusations of God that make me uncomfortable.
I didn't write the bible, presumably your holy book. The god of Abraham did. You've got a bone to pick with him instead.
I don't find fault with the Bible, I find fault with your apparent hatred of it. :(
Well I'd hate to upset you further, iMtG does have a cool block feature you may be interested in using on me. If that is not sufficient - surely you can at least read the Old Testament - you may find yourself agreeing my assertion.
Dudecore, me and Icescythe apologized and longer want to talk about it
What if minotaurs were real and they guarded cute little labyrinths that you had to navigate through to save princesses or princes?
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Then my life would be spent slaying minotaurs lol
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on September 14, 2013, 11:23:40 PM
What if minotaurs were real and they guarded cute little labyrinths that you had to navigate through to save princesses or princes?
Wait...they don't already?!?! Thanks for ruining my childhood!
Why did I get - karma? I'm trying to fizzle down the situation
I'm trying to help... Please understand
I assure everyone I'm not trying to make it worse. Please, lets just understand eachother
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Well I was listing some your options...we can discuss it at length - and I will most undoubtably be correct, or you can block me, get over it or be awoken.
You want me to keep my thoughts to myself, but in doing so you oppress me in the same way! I will not block you. I will not convert to agnosticism.
TT.TT
This thread isn't going to listen.
-walks over to Wall Games-
Quote from: DylanW18 on September 14, 2013, 11:34:23 PM
TT.TT
This thread isn't going to listen.
-walks over to Wall Games-
sorry man, it's true though.
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 14, 2013, 11:31:18 PM
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I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Well I was listing some your options...we can discuss it at length - and I will most undoubtably be correct, or you can block me, get over it or be awoken.
What, that your interpretation of an ancient text whose meaning, use as a historic text, and overall context has been the subject of academic debate for centuries? Don't worry guys, Dudecore has it all figured out.
As for the topic at hand, there doesn't seem to be much to debate. What if these things were real has been the subject of speculative fiction for as long as these beings have been a part of popular consciousness.
The bible has been universally rejected as a historical document - except by theologians who merely need the text to be real to justify all the years of mental gymnastics required to grok that the actual creator of the universe - in all it's (alleged) omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence - came to the planet earth to favor a specific tribe, of a specific group of primates. Also this creator god only knew what people on the planet knew at the time, indicating it was written by the same tribalistic, capricious, superstitious people that god favors.
It's a myth, and this is the perfect place for this conversation. The god of Abraham is about as scary a villain that any fiction has ever produced, and people believe it's real to boot.
Quote from: DylanW18 on September 14, 2013, 11:24:49 PM
Then my life would be spent slaying minotaurs lol
You and me both, sir!
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Well I was listing some your options...we can discuss it at length - and I will most undoubtably be correct, or you can block me, get over it or be awoken.
What, that your interpretation of an ancient text whose meaning, use as a historic text, and overall context has been the subject of academic debate for centuries? Don't worry guys, Dudecore has it all figured out.
As for the topic at hand, there doesn't seem to be much to debate. What if these things were real has been the subject of speculative fiction for as long as these beings have been a part of popular consciousness.
The bible has been universally rejected as a historical document - except by theologians who merely need the text to be real to justify all the years of mental gymnastics required to grok that the actual creator of the universe - in all it's (alleged) omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence - came to the planet earth to favor a specific tribe, of a specific group of primates. Also this creator god only knew what people on the planet knew at the time, indicating it was written by the same tribalistic, capricious, superstitious people that god favors.
It's a myth, and this is the perfect place for this conversation. The god of Abraham is about as scary a villain that any fiction has ever produced, and people believe it's real to boot.
Not agreeing or disagreeing with your view but in my school the Bible is actually accepted as a historical reference.
Also to quote Thomas Paine, "a cruel god makes a cruel man"
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Well I was listing some your options...we can discuss it at length - and I will most undoubtably be correct, or you can block me, get over it or be awoken.
What, that your interpretation of an ancient text whose meaning, use as a historic text, and overall context has been the subject of academic debate for centuries? Don't worry guys, Dudecore has it all figured out.
As for the topic at hand, there doesn't seem to be much to debate. What if these things were real has been the subject of speculative fiction for as long as these beings have been a part of popular consciousness.
The bible has been universally rejected as a historical document - except by theologians who merely need the text to be real to justify all the years of mental gymnastics required to grok that the actual creator of the universe - in all it's (alleged) omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence - came to the planet earth to favor a specific tribe, of a specific group of primates. Also this creator god only knew what people on the planet knew at the time, indicating it was written by the same tribalistic, capricious, superstitious people that god favors.
It's a myth, and this is the perfect place for this conversation. The god of Abraham is about as scary a villain that any fiction has ever produced, and people believe it's real to boot.
you sir, really need to reread the old testement and find more than three college biology professors to talk theology with.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:33:01 PM
You want me to keep my thoughts to myself, but in doing so you oppress me in the same way! I will not block you. I will not convert to agnosticism.
I am open to debate, you do not have to block me, engage in conversation with me, or convert to any other such dogmas. I have not oppressed you, unless you consider upsetting your unfounded beliefs in a creator god oppression - then you're merely confused about the definition of "oppress".
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:33:01 PM
You want me to keep my thoughts to myself, but in doing so you oppress me in the same way! I will not block you. I will not convert to agnosticism.
I am open to debate, you do not have to block me, engage in conversation with me, or convert to any other such dogmas. I have not oppressed you, unless you consider upsetting your unfounded beliefs in a creator god oppression - then you're merely confused about the definition of "oppress".
you just commanded me to accept your beliefs as truth or block you only one post back, now you tell me to debate and do as I please. :/
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on September 14, 2013, 11:12:00 PM
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El chupacabre is a big thing in my surrounding territory. It would be neat if they were real.
Goat sucker...it doesn't have the same ring in English.
It sounds perverted hahah.
I also would like to think that unicorns were real at some point in time. And dragons.
They just missed Noah's ark because they were too busy playing Halo: Reach for the stars! Lol.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:41:07 PM
you sir, really need to reread the old testement and find more than three college biology professors to talk theology with.
And you sir need to elaborate on what i said specifically that you disagree with, and not flail weak ad hominem attacks about the nature of my knowledge on the subject.
Also the "Well I was listing some your options...we can discuss it at length - and I will most undoubtably be correct, or you can block me, get over it or be awoken." Is a list of some of your options - plenty more exist, I was avoiding a false dichotomy by listing stuff that in theory could be done to relieve your uncomfortability with the subject matter.
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Well I was listing some your options...we can discuss it at length - and I will most undoubtably be correct, or you can block me, get over it or be awoken.
What, that your interpretation of an ancient text whose meaning, use as a historic text, and overall context has been the subject of academic debate for centuries? Don't worry guys, Dudecore has it all figured out.
As for the topic at hand, there doesn't seem to be much to debate. What if these things were real has been the subject of speculative fiction for as long as these beings have been a part of popular consciousness.
The bible has been universally rejected as a historical document - except by theologians who merely need the text to be real to justify all the years of mental gymnastics required to grok that the actual creator of the universe - in all it's (alleged) omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence - came to the planet earth to favor a specific tribe, of a specific group of primates. Also this creator god only knew what people on the planet knew at the time, indicating it was written by the same tribalistic, capricious, superstitious people that god favors.
It's a myth, and this is the perfect place for this conversation. The god of Abraham is about as scary a villain that any fiction has ever produced, and people believe it's real to boot.
I believe all of the above by Dudecore is specifically what I disagree with.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Last time I checked, that's an opinion- not a scientific fact. Not hating on religion, just saying I hate when people pass their VIEWSas FACTS. Atheist? No... Stormcrowieth. And as the messiah, I dub you unholy to the almighty {Storm Crow}! Lol. But seriously, settle down, ice! Accept Dudecore's opinion! Just...
😎
CHILL OUT
*YEEEAAAAAH*
But really, just settle down... You think this and other people think that. So what? It's not a big deal.
"Well that escalated quickly..."
But in all seriousness, you may disagree with people but let's all calm down. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and opinions on religion, because they are so engrained into who we are, are unlikely to be changed because of an argument on a Magic app. Please either calm down or start a new thread so this thread can go on with its discussion on Myths.
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Last time I checked, that's an opinion- not a scientific fact. Not hating on religion, just saying I hate when people pass their VIEWSas FACTS. Atheist? No... Stormcrowieth. And as the messiah, I dub you unholy to the almighty {Storm Crow}! Lol. But seriously, settle down, ice! Accept Dudecore's opinion! Just...
😎
CHILL OUT
*YEEEAAAAAH*
But really, just settle down... You think this and other people think that. So what? It's not a big deal.
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Last time I checked, that's an opinion- not a scientific fact. Not hating on religion, just saying I hate when people pass their VIEWSas FACTS. Atheist? No... Stormcrowieth. And as the messiah, I dub you unholy to the almighty {Storm Crow}! Lol. But seriously, settle down, ice! Accept Dudecore's opinion! Just...
😎
CHILL OUT
*YEEEAAAAAH*
But really, just settle down... You think this and other people think that. So what? It's not a big deal.
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
I said that too. Settle down! Stop boiling!
*Ba dum Ching}
Okay I'll stop. But really, it's all opinionated- I just think he may or may not exist.
My post is broken!
I just broke the Internet! XD
You did though...what did you do? Does everyone else see this?
What the .love. Did I do???
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 14, 2013, 11:54:21 PM
"Well that escalated quickly..."
But in all seriousness, you may disagree with people but let's all calm down. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and opinions on religion, because they are so engrained into who we are, are unlikely to be changed because of an argument on a Magic app. Please either calm down or start a new thread so this thread can go on with its discussion on Myths.
All good arguments begin with a well placed joke about a space man.
Mlearner, y u do dis? Lol. And why do you tell me to "accept Dudecore's opinion" this dies not make sense to me.
How Did you do that dudecore? I can't quite or anything.
You can quote posts that aren't f***ed up.
Icescythe- I mean, it's what he/she thinks. And they can think whatever, just accept they think differently than you.
Let's get to the next page and see if this corrects itself.
I had it open before you broke everything
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
What is your point? And you've got a respect for science? Perfect. Why do you believe in god then?
I accept that he thinks differently than I, that much is established. I just don't agree to let him walk all over my religion.
woah, this blew up fast 0_0 I haven't had this much success on a forum topic ever.
nonetheless, TIME TO DROP SOME SCIENCE INTO THE BITCH (excuse my french)
There is something called the Endogenous Retrovirus. This is a very sciencey term that I suck at explaining, so instead go look up Zachary Moore's podcast on this virus.
To put this iin a nutshell, the ERT is a virus passed through the blood, carrying diseases all the way from the Black Plague. One of which includes the vHERV. It is a virus that is transmitted through blood or passed down from generations. vHERV is a virus that mutates the DNA in which the creature is still a human, except it has alterations in DNA. (before I go any further this was research conducted by Yale University. LEAVE ME BE!) A vampire is an infected human. A human that has it's brain enchanced. Enhancing reaction times, processing power, muscles, immune system, etc... How does this brain operate at such campacity, well it can't. Unless the nutrients of human/animal (but more prerelavent in human) blood is ingested and spread throughout the system. You might be asking, "But Flicker, blood is high in iron. Much more then any human can ingest without complications." Well my friend, Vampires can ingest 600% more iron then a human can without complications.
Now science story time is over.
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY TO DRINK BLOOD AT HOME IN EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS UNLESS ABSOLUTELY SURE IF YOU ARE A VAMPIRE. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING SICK, AND DYING.
IT IS FIXED! And I don't think they walked over it, I think they just briefly army-crawled and you just sorta flopped down in some mud of not-backing-down. Terrible Metaphors FTW!
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:08:28 AM
woah, this blew up fast 0_0 I haven't had this much success on a forum topic ever.
nonetheless, TIME TO DROP SOME SCIENCE INTO THE BITCH (excuse my french)
There is something called the Endogenous Retrovirus. This is a very sciencey term that I suck at explaining, so instead go look up Zachary Moore's podcast on this virus.
To put this iin a nutshell, the ERT is a virus passed through the blood, carrying diseases all the way from the Black Plague. One of which includes the vHERV. It is a virus that is transmitted through blood or passed down from generations. vHERV is a virus that mutates the DNA in which the creature is still a human, except it has alterations in DNA. (before I go any further this was research conducted by Yale University. LEAVE ME BE!) A vampire is an infected human. A human that has it's brain enchanced. Enhancing reaction times, processing power, muscles, immune system, etc... How does this brain operate at such campacity, well it can't. Unless the nutrients of human/animal (but more prerelavent in human) blood is ingested and spread throughout the system. You might be asking, "But Flicker, blood is high in iron. Much more then any human can ingest without complications." Well my friend, Vampires can ingest 600% more iron then a human can without complications.
Now science story time is over.
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY TO DRINK BLOOD AT HOME IN EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS UNLESS ABSOLUTELY SURE IF YOU ARE A VAMPIRE. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING SICK, AND DYING.
So I should stop dribking my blood? It's very tasty... A little sweet.
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 12:06:38 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 14, 2013, 11:38:39 PM
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 14, 2013, 11:31:18 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 14, 2013, 11:28:05 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:24:25 PM
I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Well I was listing some your options...we can discuss it at length - and I will most undoubtably be correct, or you can block me, get over it or be awoken.
What, that your interpretation of an ancient text whose meaning, use as a historic text, and overall context has been the subject of academic debate for centuries? Don't worry guys, Dudecore has it all figured out.
As for the topic at hand, there doesn't seem to be much to debate. What if these things were real has been the subject of speculative fiction for as long as these beings have been a part of popular consciousness.
The bible has been universally rejected as a historical document - except by theologians who merely need the text to be real to justify all the years of mental gymnastics required to grok that the actual creator of the universe - in all it's (alleged) omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence - came to the planet earth to favor a specific tribe, of a specific group of primates. Also this creator god only knew what people on the planet knew at the time, indicating it was written by the same tribalistic, capricious, superstitious people that god favors.
It's a myth, and this is the perfect place for this conversation. The god of Abraham is about as scary a villain that any fiction has ever produced, and people believe it's real to boot.
The Bible does some validity as a text on the early history of the Hebrews, though to what extent is largely up for debate. At any rate, my point is that you take it to be read literally, and this that is how it was always meant to be read. The obvious fictitious tropes and ideas seem to read like backwards thinking. Did it ever occur to you that it was meant to be used for parable? The very meaning of each passage is subject to debate.
Then my question is: what good reason is there to believe? The god you believe on LITERALLY wrote a book (by inspiring other people) and LITERALLY said you've got to believe in it. If you take the bible as an allegory then Genesis (the creation of the universe) and the Ten Commandments (the law that Christians claim to live by) must also be allegory. If that is true, that stands contrary to gods literal word and the foundation (a collection of reasons) people believe in it in the first place.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:08:28 AM
woah, this blew up fast 0_0 I haven't had this much success on a forum topic ever.
nonetheless, TIME TO DROP SOME SCIENCE INTO THE BITCH (excuse my french)
There is something called the Endogenous Retrovirus. This is a very sciencey term that I suck at explaining, so instead go look up Zachary Moore's podcast on this virus.
To put this iin a nutshell, the ERT is a virus passed through the blood, carrying diseases all the way from the Black Plague. One of which includes the vHERV. It is a virus that is transmitted through blood or passed down from generations. vHERV is a virus that mutates the DNA in which the creature is still a human, except it has alterations in DNA. (before I go any further this was research conducted by Yale University. LEAVE ME BE!) A vampire is an infected human. A human that has it's brain enchanced. Enhancing reaction times, processing power, muscles, immune system, etc... How does this brain operate at such campacity, well it can't. Unless the nutrients of human/animal (but more prerelavent in human) blood is ingested and spread throughout the system. You might be asking, "But Flicker, blood is high in iron. Much more then any human can ingest without complications." Well my friend, Vampires can ingest 600% more iron then a human can without complications.
Now science story time is over.
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY TO DRINK BLOOD AT HOME IN EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS UNLESS ABSOLUTELY SURE IF YOU ARE A VAMPIRE. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING SICK, AND DYING.
I have read articles proving the possibility of vampires before but this one is probably the best. Another cool one was a claim that an enhanced brain that could process faster would account for the majority of "vampiric" symptoms. Increased intelligence, faster reactions, ect.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
I had it open before you broke everything
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
What is your point? And you've got a respect for science? Perfect. Why do you believe in god then?
yes, I do have a respect for science. there is scientific evidence to support the fact that God exists.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 15, 2013, 12:09:21 AM
IT IS FIXED! And I don't think they walked over it, I think they just briefly army-crawled and you just sorta flopped down in some mud of not-backing-down. Terrible Metaphors FTW!
Pg. 4 is still broken though
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 15, 2013, 12:10:43 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:08:28 AM
woah, this blew up fast 0_0 I haven't had this much success on a forum topic ever.
nonetheless, TIME TO DROP SOME SCIENCE INTO THE BITCH (excuse my french)
There is something called the Endogenous Retrovirus. This is a very sciencey term that I suck at explaining, so instead go look up Zachary Moore's podcast on this virus.
To put this iin a nutshell, the ERT is a virus passed through the blood, carrying diseases all the way from the Black Plague. One of which includes the vHERV. It is a virus that is transmitted through blood or passed down from generations. vHERV is a virus that mutates the DNA in which the creature is still a human, except it has alterations in DNA. (before I go any further this was research conducted by Yale University. LEAVE ME BE!) A vampire is an infected human. A human that has it's brain enchanced. Enhancing reaction times, processing power, muscles, immune system, etc... How does this brain operate at such campacity, well it can't. Unless the nutrients of human/animal (but more prerelavent in human) blood is ingested and spread throughout the system. You might be asking, "But Flicker, blood is high in iron. Much more then any human can ingest without complications." Well my friend, Vampires can ingest 600% more iron then a human can without complications.
Now science story time is over.
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY TO DRINK BLOOD AT HOME IN EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS UNLESS ABSOLUTELY SURE IF YOU ARE A VAMPIRE. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING SICK, AND DYING.
So I should stop dribking my blood? It's very tasty... A little sweet.
Why don't you pm me, and we can talk about it...
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:11:53 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:08:28 AM
woah, this blew up fast 0_0 I haven't had this much success on a forum topic ever.
nonetheless, TIME TO DROP SOME SCIENCE INTO THE BITCH (excuse my french)
There is something called the Endogenous Retrovirus. This is a very sciencey term that I suck at explaining, so instead go look up Zachary Moore's podcast on this virus.
To put this iin a nutshell, the ERT is a virus passed through the blood, carrying diseases all the way from the Black Plague. One of which includes the vHERV. It is a virus that is transmitted through blood or passed down from generations. vHERV is a virus that mutates the DNA in which the creature is still a human, except it has alterations in DNA. (before I go any further this was research conducted by Yale University. LEAVE ME BE!) A vampire is an infected human. A human that has it's brain enchanced. Enhancing reaction times, processing power, muscles, immune system, etc... How does this brain operate at such campacity, well it can't. Unless the nutrients of human/animal (but more prerelavent in human) blood is ingested and spread throughout the system. You might be asking, "But Flicker, blood is high in iron. Much more then any human can ingest without complications." Well my friend, Vampires can ingest 600% more iron then a human can without complications.
Now science story time is over.
DISCLAIMER: DO NOT TRY TO DRINK BLOOD AT HOME IN EXCESSIVE AMOUNTS UNLESS ABSOLUTELY SURE IF YOU ARE A VAMPIRE. WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY GETTING SICK, AND DYING.
I have read articles proving the possibility of vampires before but this one is probably the best. Another cool one was a claim that an enhanced brain that could process faster would account for the majority of "vampiric" symptoms. Increased intelligence, faster reactions, ect.
Thank you! I like taking a form of credit for finding other people's work and making it public. :)
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:12:01 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
I had it open before you broke everything
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
What is your point? And you've got a respect for science? Perfect. Why do you believe in god then?
yes, I do have a respect for science. there is scientific evidence to support the fact that God exists.
Please explain. I'm more then interested in hearing what scientific proof there is.
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
''Endogenous retroviruses contribute to the evolution of the host genome and can be associated with disease.'' is the name of the study.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
I know the truth!!! Believe in the Stormcroweithian Church you muggles!
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:12:01 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
I had it open before you broke everything
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
What is your point? And you've got a respect for science? Perfect. Why do you believe in god then?
yes, I do have a respect for science. there is scientific evidence to support the fact that God exists.
Please explain. I'm more then interested in hearing what scientific proof there is.
the Earth is positioned in the perfect orbit to have temperatures that support life, our DNA makeup is far too complex to be some random string of primordial sewage that got smarter over the years, there has yet to be another planet with life on it, fossils of sea creatures have been found atop mountains and this supports the theory of the great flood, there is evil in the world, a direct result of the fall of man, and there is good in the world, which is a direct result of God.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:25:08 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
I know the truth!!! Believe in the Stormcroweithian Church you muggles!
oh, well I was wrong in this regard. Dudecore and Icescythe are bothe deemed wrong in this argument. Argus has show us the way.
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:27:53 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:25:08 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
I know the truth!!! Believe in the Stormcroweithian Church you muggles!
oh, well I was wrong in this regard. Dudecore and Icescythe are bothe deemed wrong in this argument. Argus has show us the way.
*Le baptizes Flicker*
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
Incorrect. One of us can in fact be correct.
If person "A" says:
"The earth is flat"
Then person "B" says:
"I do not believe the earth is flat".
How do we determine who is correct? We use the scientific method, logic and reason, evidence and peer review. We do not say "it's just an opinion, everyone is entitled to their own view of if the earth is flat."
If you claim something like god to be true, you must prove it to me - or I reject the claim. The notion that people believe in the bible is funny to me - its absurd, delusional, and hysterical behavior.
I also do not like being told what I can and cannot talk about. I do not do it to anyone else, do not do it to me.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 15, 2013, 12:28:32 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:27:53 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:25:08 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
I know the truth!!! Believe in the Stormcroweithian Church you muggles!
oh, well I was wrong in this regard. Dudecore and Icescythe are bothe deemed wrong in this argument. Argus has show us the way.
*Le baptizes Flicker*
It is not I who has shown the way but our Messiah, Mlerner. Welcome to the church Flicker.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
Incorrect. One of us can in fact be correct.
If person "A" says:
"The earth is flat"
Then person "B" says:
"I do not believe the earth is flat".
How do we determine who is correct? We use the scientific method, logic and reason, evidence and peer review. We do not say "it's just an opinion, everyone is entitled to their own view of if the earth is flat."
If you claim something like god to be true, you must prove it to me - or I reject the claim. The notion that people believe in the bible is funny to me - its absurd, delusional, and hysterical behavior.
I also do not like being told what I can and cannot talk about. I do not do it to anyone else, do not do it to me.
I just wanted you two to stop fighting. It's giving me a headache
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
Incorrect. One of us can in fact be correct.
If person "A" says:
"The earth is flat"
Then person "B" says:
"I do not believe the earth is flat".
How do we determine who is correct? We use the scientific method, logic and reason, evidence and peer review. We do not say "it's just an opinion, everyone is entitled to their own view of if the earth is flat."
If you claim something like god to be true, you must prove it to me - or I reject the claim. The notion that people believe in the bible is funny to me - its absurd, delusional, and hysterical behavior.
I also do not like being told what I can and cannot talk about. I do not do it to anyone else, do not do it to me.
while I can understand moral, intellectual, and willful reasons of why you reject the Bible, I don't understand why you must antogonize me so.
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 12:33:05 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:31:41 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
Incorrect. One of us can in fact be correct.
If person "A" says:
"The earth is flat"
Then person "B" says:
"I do not believe the earth is flat".
How do we determine who is correct? We use the scientific method, logic and reason, evidence and peer review. We do not say "it's just an opinion, everyone is entitled to their own view of if the earth is flat."
If you claim something like god to be true, you must prove it to me - or I reject the claim. The notion that people believe in the bible is funny to me - its absurd, delusional, and hysterical behavior.
I also do not like being told what I can and cannot talk about. I do not do it to anyone else, do not do it to me.
while I can understand moral, intellectual, and willful reasons of why you reject the Bible, I don't understand why you must antogonize me so.
You keep addressing him for one...
this is true ;)
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:29:24 AM
Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on September 15, 2013, 12:23:29 AM
Stop fighting over religion. We can never know in that regard, we can't force our ideals on ANYBODY. So in a sense, your both right. So stop being stupid and arguing about whose right when it is an opinionated ideal.
Incorrect. One of us can in fact be correct.
If person "A" says:
"The earth is flat"
Then person "B" says:
"I do not believe the earth is flat".
How do we determine who is correct? We use the scientific method, logic and reason, evidence and peer review. We do not say "it's just an opinion, everyone is entitled to their own view of if the earth is flat."
If you claim something like god to be true, you must prove it to me - or I reject the claim. The notion that people believe in the bible is funny to me - its absurd, delusional, and hysterical behavior.
I also do not like being told what I can and cannot talk about. I do not do it to anyone else, do not do it to me.
Actually... They say they BELIEVE and are telling the truth in that... They're both right, technically.
TECHNICALITY BOY STRIKES AGAIN
Maybe I should just block you two for the time being, my headache is getting worse :(
SPEAKING OF SCIENCE!!!! Did you know there is no such thing as a headache?
Alright guys, I apologize for junking up your thread with unrelated posts (I don't apologize for my beliefs) but I'm done discussing religion here, if Dudecore wishes to continue this debate privately, he can pm me.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
the Earth is positioned in the perfect orbit to have temperatures that support life.
⚫How does this prove YOUR god did it, and not a ham sandwich in the phantom zone?
⚫Do you not see the irony in seeing how perfect that is only upon the fact that were able to observe this?
⚫Can this be explained naturally? Of course of can.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
our DNA makeup is far too complex to be some random string of primordial sewage that got smarter over the years.
⚫How does this prove god did it, and not Allah?
⚫You've misrepresented DNA, and then refuted your misrepresentation. We call that a "straw man argument". Look that up in a book, not the one you've been getting your information from thus far.
⚫Can this be explained naturally? Of course of can.
Quotethere has yet to be another planet with life on it,
⚫How does this prove YOUR god did it, and not Zeus?
⚫"if man were meant to fly, he'd be born with wings!" We haven't explored the entire galaxy...this is not sufficient proof of anything. No reason to believe we're alone in the universe.
⚫Can this be explained naturally? Of course of can.
Quotefossils of sea creatures have been found atop mountains and this supports the theory of the great flood,
⚫Outright lie. Worst of all logical fallacies.
⚫The great flood is not a theory.
Quotethere is evil in the world, a direct result of the fall of man, and there is good in the world, which is a direct result of God.
⚫God allows there to be evil, he is powerless to stop it.
⚫The definition of good and evil have changed since the bible was made up. If you're going to live your life based on the word of god - then no one on this message board is going to heaven.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:38:39 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
the Earth is positioned in the perfect orbit to have temperatures that support life.
⚫How does this prove YOUR god did it, and not a ham sandwich in the phantom zone?
⚫Do you not see the irony in seeing how perfect that is only upon the fact that were able to observe this?
⚫Can this be explained naturally? Of course of can.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
our DNA makeup is far too complex to be some random string of primordial sewage that got smarter over the years.
⚫How does this prove god did it, and not Allah?
⚫You've misrepresented DNA, and then refuted your misrepresentation. We call that a "straw man argument". Look that up in a book, not the one you've been getting your information from thus far.
⚫Can this be explained naturally? Of course of can.
Sorry but "ham sandwich in the Phantom Zone"? Hilarious!
So, anyway, Chewbacabra anyone? Jersy Devil? Bigfoot actually lives in my area •~•
no icescythe, by all means keep fighting. I don't mind, I don't think anybody else does either. I'm just getting a headache (that apparently doesn't exist) and I needed to blame something. So I blamed you two, nothing personal, just needed the scapegoat. :)
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass. But on a serious note... Bigfoot lives near me!
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass. But on a serious note... Bigfoot lives near me!
could you ask him why he hasn't replied to any of my fan letters?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass. But on a serious note... Bigfoot lives near me!
could you ask him why he hasn't replied to any of my fan letters?
I can tell you why, lazy bastard doesn't check his inbox. Just sits around, shoots a few beef jerky commercials for spending money, and hits trees with other trees. He's not really that exciting a fellow.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass. But on a serious note... Bigfoot lives near me!
could you ask him why he hasn't replied to any of my fan letters?
I can tell you why, lazy bastard doesn't check his inbox. Just sits around, shoots a few beef jerky commercials for spending money, and hits trees with other trees. He's not really that exciting a fellow.
Makes sense, he doesn't seem like a very motivated guy.
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:49:30 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:48:02 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 12:45:52 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass. But on a serious note... Bigfoot lives near me!
could you ask him why he hasn't replied to any of my fan letters?
I can tell you why, lazy bastard doesn't check his inbox. Just sits around, shoots a few beef jerky commercials for spending money, and hits trees with other trees. He's not really that exciting a fellow.
Makes sense, he doesn't seem like a very motivated guy.
just don't piss him off... Or he'll piss on you. (☆_☆)
He has literally been spotted in the mountains a ways to the north of me tons of times. Ô.ô super duper creepy
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 01:01:52 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:57:52 AM
He has literally been spotted in the mountains a ways to the north of me tons of times. Ô.ô super duper creepy
Yeah, he's mostly spotted by tourists who haven't been to the woods before. Funnily enough, there are usually bear tracks nearby the places he's seen. He must have an animal familiar...
we do have bears here but no, most sightings are by people who have been living in the mountains in cabins for a while
What if it turned out that all of the Bigfoot sightings are members of a secret cult dedicated to Bigfoot, just wearing costumes and walking around? MIND=BLOWN
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 01:04:59 AM
What if it turned out that all of the Bigfoot sightings are members of a secret cult dedicated to Bigfoot, just wearing costumes and walking around? MIND=BLOWN
Or worse the Bigfoot industry!!
No!!!
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:12:01 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
I had it open before you broke everything
Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
What is your point? And you've got a respect for science? Perfect. Why do you believe in god then?
yes, I do have a respect for science. there is scientific evidence to support the fact that God exists.
Please explain. I'm more then interested in hearing what scientific proof there is.
the Earth is positioned in the perfect orbit to have temperatures that support life, our DNA makeup is far too complex to be some random string of primordial sewage that got smarter over the years, there has yet to be another planet with life on it, fossils of sea creatures have been found atop mountains and this supports the theory of the great flood, there is evil in the world, a direct result of the fall of man, and there is good in the world, which is a direct result of God.
You seriously believe that these are all "proof" that God exists? I don't normally like to argue about religion, but all of those things have more than enough scientific reasoning behind them.
Jumping in late to this thread but I feel like posting my opinions. Lets see how much I can remember...
As far as Bigfoot and such, this is how I see it. A lot of hunters have said to have spotted him. Here's the problem, hunters have weapons, weapons kill humans and animals equally easily. A Bigfoot corpse would go for hundreds of thousands to a museum, let alone millions on the black market. So why would a person NOT shoot him? Seems illogical.
Chupacabra, now this one is a little harder for me to explain logically. First of all I don't know enough information about it, but I'll try my best. So a small monkey like creature in central/souther America runs around sucking the blood out goats at night. Now most of the stories I hear say that the goats don't have puncture wounds (from teeth I would assume), so I don't understand how an animal could just have no blood for no reason whatsoever. Need to read up more about this tbh...
On to the ocean/sea...
Yes it is way more likely that there are creatures we do not fully know about in the ocean due to the fact that we can't survive too deep which is where most of the new species we discover are from. So easy to say there are probably hundreds of unidentified species in the dark depths of the ocean we will never know about.
Loch Ness monster,
Everyone has heard of nessy, but the only pictures and videos taken have been blurry or disproven by the photographer. I will explain why I don't believe she exists and it's very simple. The Loch Ness doesn't have a sufficient food supply to deal with a creature as large as the supposed nessy. Some say that there are underwater caves and such that lead to the ocean but, if that were true, y would nessy come back to a place with no food if it could go to the ocean and have a plentiful supply, doesn't make sense whatsoever.
Alien life,
I bring this up because so many people believe them to exist. This is my take on the subject. If you look at a picture of the galaxy alone, our sun is barely visible. Now you're telling me that in the entire UNIVERSE! this is the only planet with life? Highly unlikely... As far as aliens coming to this planet in space ships, blasphemy. If this were true, I think there would be a much, MUCH larger facility then the "area 51" (which does exist but not for alien research) attempting to capture and reverse engineer the engine capabilities of these aircraft. After all, supposedly the closest planet capable of sustaining life is like 30 light years away. Much too far to send a ship without some sort of high speed engine/wormhole device.
An not to bring up the forgotten but as far as the religion/no religion debate, I lie somewhere in the middle leaning toward icescythes side. I believe that a higher power does exist. I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical. However, I was raised in a Christian household as after asking my dad and sister several times, "what makes our religion right, and everyone else's wrong?" And not getting a straightforward answer. I decline to believe everything written in the bible/Koran/any other "holy book" because there doesn't seem to be sufficient evidence to explain which religion is the one getting you into "heaven", there is no way all of them are correct so I don't believe in them.
And that is my entire belief on these subjects.
TL;DR - go back up there and READ EVERYTHING THAT I WROTE U LAZY ASSCLOWN!
Every society based upon a religion has a flood myth.
Bigfoot seems feasible, I just don't know why I haven't seen one. I imagine that if i ever sight one then I'd probably believe it
Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.
This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 08:46:34 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.
This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.
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Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.
This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.
Hey iceScythe. Look up the word "scientific theory" and notice how it does not say "hypothesis". A theory is a model that consists of facts, and gives science a basis to compare other facts about the known universe.
Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge. This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unsubstantiated or speculative. (Pulled from reading 2 seconds of the Wikipedia page on Scientific theory)
Also, you're guilty of committing an equivocation fallacy. Where you assume that both usages of the word "theory" apply to all the usages of the word theory.
Gravity is a theory and Germs are a theory. The Big Bang theory is the best model available to explain the formation of the universe.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass.
Aww, I'm offended. I'm going to go cry now. Thanks a lot, ice! ,_,
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Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
Every society based upon a religion has a flood myth.
No....several Native American societies dont
Name 10 and I'll do research
Ah back to the whole "God" thing, personally I am an atheist, I do not believe ther is a higher power or "god" however my beliefs are flexible, I do believe in ghosts and spirits, I even have a shadow person following me, I believe people can have supernatural abilities, being an empath (able to feel what other people are feeling) runs in my family, as does witching for water and bodies, a very close friend of mine believes in Greek mythology, she is also a Wiccan, she sees through the eyes of others sometimes (she has seen through mine I felt it), we both occasionally glimpse the future in our dreams, people believe what they will to explain the unexplainable
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Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
Every society based upon a religion has a flood myth.
No....several Native American societies dont
You sure about that? Think carefully before you answer.
Also is the myth that several ancient cultures have been visited by aliens. Depicted in cave drawings, hieroglyphs, sarcophagi. From Peru, Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians, and Hebrews while enslaved by Babylon, all have these images written down...
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 11:50:21 AM
Also is the myth that several ancient cultures have been visited by aliens. Depicted in cave drawings, hieroglyphs, sarcophagi. From Peru, Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians, and Hebrews while enslaved by Babylon, all have these images written down...
There is an interesting show on this on the History Channel called 'Ancient Aliens'
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Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.
This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.
Hey iceScythe. Look up the word "scientific theory" and notice how it does not say "hypothesis". A theory is a model that consists of facts, and gives science a basis to compare other facts about the known universe.
Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge. This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unsubstantiated or speculative. (Pulled from reading 2 seconds of the Wikipedia page on Scientific theory)
Also, you're guilty of committing an equivocation fallacy. Where you assume that both usages of the word "theory" apply to all the usages of the word theory.
Gravity is a theory and Germs are a theory. The Big Bang theory is the best model available to explain the formation of the universe.
actually gravity is a Law and the Big Bang is a Theory, Laws can be tested and are proven facts, whereas theories are supported by evidence but can not be proven or tested
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass.
Aww, I'm offended. I'm going to go cry now. Thanks a lot, ice! ,_,
I didn't mean your body, lol I meant Dudecore's knowledge of the universe.
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass.
Aww, I'm offended. I'm going to go cry now. Thanks a lot, ice! ,_,
I didn't mean your body, lol I meant Dudecore's knowledge of the universe.
Lol. Is that Sarcasm I detect?
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I will not block communications with you Dudecore, I just don't understand why you speak these obscenities towards me and tell me that if I don't like it I can block you and get over it. I have read the old testement. The last time I checked, we are all fallen beings in total depravity in need of a savior.
Last time I checked, that's an opinion- not a scientific fact. Not hating on religion, just saying I hate when people pass their VIEWSas FACTS. Atheist? No... Stormcrowieth. And as the messiah, I dub you unholy to the almighty {Storm Crow}! Lol. But seriously, settle down, ice! Accept Dudecore's opinion! Just...
😎
CHILL OUT
*YEEEAAAAAH*
But really, just settle down... You think this and other people think that. So what? It's not a big deal.
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.
This post broke the Internet, in a way. I quoted it. Stupid imtg.
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Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 09:26:40 AM
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Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 08:46:34 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.
This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.
Hey iceScythe. Look up the word "scientific theory" and notice how it does not say "hypothesis". A theory is a model that consists of facts, and gives science a basis to compare other facts about the known universe.
Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge. This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unsubstantiated or speculative. (Pulled from reading 2 seconds of the Wikipedia page on Scientific theory)
Also, you're guilty of committing an equivocation fallacy. Where you assume that both usages of the word "theory" apply to all the usages of the word theory.
Gravity is a theory and Germs are a theory. The Big Bang theory is the best model available to explain the formation of the universe.
actually gravity is a Law and the Big Bang is a Theory, Laws can be tested and are proven facts, whereas theories are supported by evidence but can not be proven or tested
...Actually gravity is a theory...
Laws are part of a theory. There are laws about thermodynamics, I'm sure you've not read any of them. They apply to the Big Bang as well. It's also something that is tested, super colliders and such. The Big Bang happened at the formation of the universe, were unable to test the beginning of life for those reasons.
We can however test it on a small scale.
And I have yet to be presented with a microscopic elephant.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 01:04:48 PM
And I have yet ro be presented with a microscopic elephant.
Well the jokes on me then.
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Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 11:51:27 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 11:50:21 AM
Also is the myth that several ancient cultures have been visited by aliens. Depicted in cave drawings, hieroglyphs, sarcophagi. From Peru, Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians, and Hebrews while enslaved by Babylon, all have these images written down...
There is an interesting pile of bull**** on this on the History Channel called 'Ancient Aliens'
Fixed for you
And what makes it that way?
The main author that they use as the "expert" on ancient aliens, is a man that bends facts and uses hi own interpretation of what the symbols and manuscripts meant. No one in the scientific community believe a word out of his Lying mouth.
I've heard this myth about a blue {Hurricane} worth thousands of dollars...
What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?
What about the Jersey Devil? Flying Minotaur that eats the heads of chickens? Pretty odd.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?
As long as you put 10,000 hours into it.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?
What qualifies someone to an expert on religious scripts? There is no proof those happened either...
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on September 15, 2013, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?
As long as you put 10,000 hours into it.
Nice. Then everyone is an expert on aliens, as there is no proof that they've ever visited this planet. I spent most of my life thinking about things that have never happened, by not thinking about them.
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 03:51:12 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?
What qualifies someone to an expert on religious scripts? There is no proof those happened either...
Touché. I'm also a biblical expert also. I'm racking up all sorts of qualifications.
What I find fascinating about the bible is the descriptions of giants, nephilim (aliens), angels (aliens), demons (aliens), other gods, wheels of fire (ufos), and a god that interacts with his people on a daily basis for hundreds of years, then isn't heard from for thousands (probably because this god committed suicide)... But what I like most is how this book tells us that the power to become a god is inside all of us...
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on September 15, 2013, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 03:45:08 PM
What qualifies someone to be an "expert on aliens"? Do you just have to know abunch of stuff about things that have never happened?
As long as you put 10,000 hours into it.
Nice. Then everyone is an expert on aliens,
Which proves that they'll give just anyone a TV show to talk about aliens on.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:05:44 PM
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Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.
This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.
Hey iceScythe. Look up the word "scientific theory" and notice how it does not say "hypothesis". A theory is a model that consists of facts, and gives science a basis to compare other facts about the known universe.
Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge. This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unsubstantiated or speculative. (Pulled from reading 2 seconds of the Wikipedia page on Scientific theory)
Also, you're guilty of committing an equivocation fallacy. Where you assume that both usages of the word "theory" apply to all the usages of the word theory.
Gravity is a theory and Germs are a theory. The Big Bang theory is the best model available to explain the formation of the universe.
actually gravity is a Law and the Big Bang is a Theory, Laws can be tested and are proven facts, whereas theories are supported by evidence but can not be proven or tested
Incorrect. Theories are most definitely testable otherwise they'd be useless. Einstein's famous Theory of Relativity for example has been tested countless times and been disproven 0 times. Once a theory has been rigorously tested and consistently proven true, it can then become a "law." However, there is no real clean cut definition of a law.
Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.
Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.
Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?
oh... I'm sorry man... I didn't know...
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.
Sorry, I'm not going to debate one side vs the other as we could be here for hours. I just wanted to point out that what you thought of as a theory was incorrect.
Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 07:51:27 PM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.
Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?
Yeah, I'm sorry about what happened btw. The mob with torches and pitchforks was probably a bit much :(
All she wanted to do was hike to a waterfall!!! :(
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 07:53:29 PM
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Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 06:17:26 PM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 06:13:57 PM
Guys. Lets just.... Talk about Bigfoot.
Leave my Aunt alone! What did she ever do but go camping? So apparently if you are a little on the hairy side and enjoy the outdoors you are transformed into some monster!?!?
Yeah, I'm sorry about what happened btw. The mob with torches and pitchforks was probably a bit much :(
All she wanted to do was hike to a waterfall!!! :(
well, at least they never caught her. :)
A little late again but gravity is a theory, and here is the difference between a theory and a law (I'm pretty sure, please correct me if I'm wrong). To prove that gravity is a law, one must toss an apple, or such, into the air and have it come back down. Simple enough, however to be a proven law, one must do it indefinitely. So that makes it a theory.
Please get back to me when you find a way to break gravity ;)
Theory- summarizes a hypothesis or group of hypotheses that have been supported with repeated testing. A theory is valid as long as there is no evidence to dispute it. Therefore, theories can be disproven. Basically, if evidence accumulates to support a hypothesis, then the hypothesis can become accepted as a good explanation of a phenomenon.
Law- generalizes a body of observations. At the time it is made, no exceptions have been found to a law. Scientific laws explain things, but they do not describe them. One way to tell a law and a theory apart is to ask if the description gives you a means to explain 'why'.
Using gravity (which is both Law and Theory) as an example. The Law explains the what WILL happen when you drop the apple, the Theory explains HOW AND WHY.
There is nothing to do that he'll listen to you about. Modern day Christians have found that if they "agree to disagree" or "neither of us can be proven correct" gives them the out. They absolutely refuse to be logical. Fighting against it, tooth and nail, with irrational ideas, goal post moving (IceScyth) and other nonsense.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
There is nothing to do that he'll listen to you about. Modern day Christians have found that if they "agree to disagree" or "neither of us can be proven correct" gives them the out. They absolutely refuse to be logical. Fighting against it, tooth and nail, with irrational ideas, goal post moving (IceScyth) and other nonsense.
That was harsh.
Quote from: Mlerner12 on September 16, 2013, 10:31:05 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
There is nothing to do that he'll listen to you about. Modern day Christians have found that if they "agree to disagree" or "neither of us can be proven correct" gives them the out. They absolutely refuse to be logical. Fighting against it, tooth and nail, with irrational ideas, goal post moving (IceScyth) and other nonsense.
That was harsh.
To be fair, every time IceScyth says to drop it and move on, he picks at Dudecore some more, so...
After its been stated that we can we can test the Big Bang theory.
Goal post move: he needs to see a microscopic elephant. (Trolling?)
After its been stated that gravity is a theory
Goal posts move: we need to disprove gravity for him to believe its a theory.
After all the horrible things in his holy book are appropriately laughed at.
"Lets move on".
I can do this all day. If I wanted to be illogical and using his style of logic (which isn't logic) I can do that too.
I don't understand why everyone is being so rude.
I've got no dog in this fight, I just thought I would clear up they Law/Theory explanation.
Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 11:57:13 PM
A little late again but gravity is a theory, and here is the difference between a theory and a law (I'm pretty sure, please correct me if I'm wrong). To prove that gravity is a law, one must toss an apple, or such, into the air and have it come back down. Simple enough, however to be a proven law, one must do it indefinitely. So that makes it a theory.
In order for something to become a "law" it must be repeatedly proven correct. But like I said before there is no clear definition for it. There is no threshold amount of times it needs to be performed before becoming a law. As long as repeated testing has consistently proven it accurate.
Quote from: Dudecore on September 16, 2013, 10:26:39 AM
There is nothing to do that he'll listen to you about. Modern day Christians have found that if they "agree to disagree" or "neither of us can be proven correct" gives them the out. They absolutely refuse to be logical. Fighting against it, tooth and nail, with irrational ideas, goal post moving (IceScyth) and other nonsense.
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 16, 2013, 07:37:12 AM
Please get back to me when you find a way to break gravity ;)
Superconducting magnets? :)
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 16, 2013, 07:37:12 AM
Please get back to me when you find a way to break gravity ;)
Superconducting magnets? :)
I don't think that disproves gravity, it just proves that magnetic force is stronger than gravity, which my fridge magnets already told me ;)
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Quote from: IceScythe on September 16, 2013, 07:37:12 AM
Please get back to me when you find a way to break gravity ;)
Superconducting magnets? :)
I don't think that disproves gravity, it just proves that magnetic force is stronger than gravity, which my fridge magnets already told me ;)
I didn't mean for it to disprove gravity just that gravity can be "reversed". But you are correct, gravity is the weakest fundamental force by far. According to electromagnetism, a movin charge creates a magnetic field, which can be increased by superconductivity making the electrical resistance equal to zero
As for myths I've always been interested in Nordic Mythology
Quote from: EvACiDe on September 16, 2013, 05:43:26 PM
As for myths I've always been interested in Nordic Mythology
DOVAHKIIN DOVAKHIIN
I love their ragnarok
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Quote from: EvACiDe on September 16, 2013, 05:43:26 PM
As for myths I've always been interested in Nordic Mythology
DOVAHKIIN DOVAKHIIN
Isn't that Dragonborn? Lol
We Nords don't take kindly to you high and mighty elves in our lands!
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 16, 2013, 06:17:42 PM
I love their ragnarok
Me as well! What's better than an ultimate showdown between Gods?
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Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 16, 2013, 06:17:42 PM
I love their ragnarok
Me as well! What's better than an ultimate showdown between Gods?
Exactly. And it also describes the coming of a more god (but the debate is ongoing whether that is original or added on)