Myths

Started by FlickerYourOwnIdentity, September 14, 2013, 10:36:29 PM

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Apathy Reactor

Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 01:01:52 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:57:52 AM
He has literally been spotted in the mountains a ways to the north of me tons of times. Ô.ô super duper creepy
Yeah, he's mostly spotted by tourists who haven't been to the woods before. Funnily enough, there are usually bear tracks nearby the places he's seen. He must have an animal familiar...
we do have bears here but no, most sightings are by people who have been living in the mountains in cabins for a while

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

What if it turned out that all of the Bigfoot sightings are members of a secret cult dedicated to Bigfoot, just wearing costumes and walking around? MIND=BLOWN

Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth

Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 01:05:41 AM
Quote from: Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth on September 15, 2013, 01:04:59 AM
What if it turned out that all of the Bigfoot sightings are members of a secret cult dedicated to Bigfoot, just wearing costumes and walking around? MIND=BLOWN
Or worse the Bigfoot industry!!
No!!!

#noided

Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:26:54 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:20:26 AM
Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:12:01 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 12:06:17 AM
I had it open before you broke everything

Quote from: IceScythe on September 14, 2013, 11:58:24 PM
Everything that Dudecore has claimed of my beliefs is also his "opinion" not a scientific fact.

What is your point? And you've got a respect for science? Perfect. Why do you believe in god then?
yes, I do have a respect for science. there is scientific evidence to support the fact that God exists.

Please explain. I'm more then interested in hearing what scientific proof there is.
the Earth is positioned in the perfect orbit to have temperatures that support life, our DNA makeup is far too complex to be some random string of primordial sewage that got smarter over the years, there has yet to be another planet with life on it, fossils of sea creatures have been found atop mountains and this supports the theory of the great flood, there is evil in the world, a direct result of the fall of man, and there is good in the world, which is a direct result of God.

You seriously believe that these are all "proof" that God exists? I don't normally like to argue about religion, but all of those things have more than enough scientific reasoning behind them.

Anoobass

Jumping in late to this thread but I feel like posting my opinions.  Lets see how much I can remember...

As far as Bigfoot and such, this is how I see it.  A lot of hunters have said to have spotted him.  Here's the problem, hunters have weapons, weapons kill humans and animals equally easily.  A Bigfoot corpse would go for hundreds of thousands to a museum, let alone millions on the black market.  So why would a person NOT shoot him?  Seems illogical.

Chupacabra, now this one is a little harder for me to explain logically.  First of all I don't know enough information about it, but I'll try my best.  So a small monkey like creature in central/souther America runs around sucking the blood out goats at night.  Now most of the stories I hear say that the goats don't have puncture wounds (from teeth I would assume), so I don't understand how an animal could just have no blood for no reason whatsoever.  Need to read up more about this tbh...

On to the ocean/sea...
Yes it is way more likely that there are creatures we do not fully know about in the ocean due to the fact that we can't survive too deep which is where most of the new species we discover are from.  So easy to say there are probably hundreds of unidentified species in the dark depths of the ocean we will never know about. 

Loch Ness monster,
Everyone has heard of nessy, but the only pictures and videos taken have been blurry or disproven by the photographer.  I will explain why I don't believe she exists and it's very simple.  The Loch Ness doesn't have a sufficient food supply to deal with a creature as large as the supposed nessy.  Some say that there are underwater caves and such that lead to the ocean but, if that were true, y would nessy come back to a place with no food if it could go to the ocean and have a plentiful supply, doesn't make sense whatsoever.

Alien life,
I bring this up because so many people believe them to exist.  This is my take on the subject.  If you look at a picture of the galaxy alone, our sun is barely visible.  Now you're telling me that in the entire UNIVERSE! this is the only planet with life?  Highly unlikely...  As far as aliens coming to this planet in space ships, blasphemy.  If this were true, I think there would be a much, MUCH larger facility then the "area 51" (which does exist but not for alien research) attempting to capture and reverse engineer the engine capabilities of these aircraft.  After all, supposedly the closest planet capable of sustaining life is like 30 light years away.  Much too far to send a ship without some sort of high speed engine/wormhole device.

An not to bring up the forgotten but as far as the religion/no religion debate, I lie somewhere in the middle leaning toward icescythes side.  I believe that a higher power does exist.  I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.  However, I was raised in a Christian household as after asking my dad and sister several times, "what makes our religion right, and everyone else's wrong?" And not getting a straightforward answer.  I decline to believe everything written in the bible/Koran/any other "holy book" because there doesn't seem to be sufficient evidence to explain which religion is the one getting you into "heaven", there is no way all of them are correct so I don't believe in them.

And that is my entire belief on these subjects.

TL;DR - go back up there and READ EVERYTHING THAT I WROTE U LAZY ASSCLOWN!

rarehuntertay

Every society based upon a religion has a flood myth.

Apathy Reactor

Bigfoot seems feasible, I just don't know why I haven't seen one. I imagine that if i ever sight one then I'd probably believe it

Dudecore

Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.

This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.

Apathy Reactor

Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 08:46:34 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.

This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.

Dudecore

Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 09:07:10 AM
Quote from: Dudecore on September 15, 2013, 08:46:34 AM
Quote from: Anoobass on September 15, 2013, 04:54:43 AM
(...)I have had the Big Bang explained to me several times but it just seems illogical.

This is an argument from personal incredulity. Because you found something difficult to understand, you act as though its probably not true.
hey Dudecore, it is called a theory for a reason.

Hey iceScythe. Look up the word "scientific theory" and notice how it does not say "hypothesis". A theory is a model that consists of facts, and gives science a basis to compare other facts about the known universe.

Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge. This is significantly different from the word "theory" in common usage, which implies that something is unsubstantiated or speculative. (Pulled from reading 2 seconds of the Wikipedia page on Scientific theory)

Also, you're guilty of committing an equivocation fallacy. Where you assume that both usages of the word "theory" apply to all the usages of the word theory.

Gravity is a theory and Germs are a theory. The Big Bang theory is the best model available to explain the formation of the universe.

Mlerner12

Quote from: IceScythe on September 15, 2013, 12:44:57 AM
No seriously, I'm done fighting. It is pointless to attempt to move an unmovable mass.
Aww, I'm offended. I'm going to go cry now. Thanks a lot, ice! ,_,

rarehuntertay

Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
Every society based upon a religion has a flood myth.
No....several Native American societies dont
Name 10 and I'll do research

MarduArrow

Ah back to the whole "God" thing, personally I am an atheist, I do not believe ther is a higher power or "god" however my beliefs are flexible, I do believe in ghosts and spirits, I even have a shadow person following me, I believe people can have supernatural abilities, being an empath (able to feel what other people are feeling) runs in my family, as does witching for water and bodies, a very close friend of mine believes in Greek mythology, she is also a Wiccan, she sees through the eyes of others sometimes (she has seen through mine I felt it), we both occasionally glimpse the future in our dreams, people believe what they will to explain the unexplainable

Mikefrompluto

Quote from: ConanEdo on September 15, 2013, 08:12:03 AM
Quote from: rarehuntertay on September 15, 2013, 07:26:21 AM
Every society based upon a religion has a flood myth.
No....several Native American societies dont

You sure about that? Think carefully before you answer.

rarehuntertay

Also is the myth that several ancient cultures have been visited by aliens. Depicted in cave drawings, hieroglyphs, sarcophagi. From Peru, Aztecs, Mayans, Egyptians, and Hebrews while enslaved by Babylon, all have these images written down...