Where can Wizards go in regards to new nonbasic lands? It seems like they've done everything there is to do. Lands that become creatures, painlands, lands that make more than one color... What do you guys look for when Wizards announces a new rare landcycle, and what makes or breaks a rare (or possibly mythic) land?
I hope for painlands every single time :(
But what else does WotC have the option to print that they haven't printed already? We have lands that deal us damage in exchange for mana, lands that tap and damage/effect the opponent, and lands that can become creatures.
I'd personally like to see some ETB effects on lands, like they had in Zendikar with nonbasics like {Teetering Peaks}.
I want to see lands that have more spell interaction, or things like {cathedral of war}, things with card effects... Or something that like could sac to copy an instant spell or something cool
Lands that produce pherxian mana I spending 2 life
Jkjk
Who cares about new nonbasics? I just want better art full arts! Basics are where the real gems are!
I doubt we'll see Mirrodin again so soon. I doubt we'll even see Zendikar again that soon. However, I could see them bringing back Scars style lands
Quote from: Silent1236 on February 18, 2013, 07:31:25 PM
Who cares about new nonbasics? I just want better art full arts! Basics are where the real gems are!
Would love full art lands again... I was really hoping that dragon's maze would feature them - it made sense to me that they might, considering the massive popularity of Ravnica and the gorgeous art throughout the set... But then they announced The maze has no basics whatsoever, sooooo probably not gonna have full art basic Ravnica lands in it, huh? :P
Oh wow, full art Ravnica lands would be so good. I still like the Ravnica basics over the Unhinged/Zendikar full arts. Suddenly I don't want Dragon's Maze anymore :P
Quote from: KangaRod on February 19, 2013, 05:55:17 AM
I think the next block will either be a return to Alaria or Zendikar
It'll be neither of those
More like {Urza's Tower} and {Urza's Power Plant}. I'd love it
Quote from: toastani on February 19, 2013, 07:21:45 AM
More like {Urza's Tower} and {Urza's Power Plant}. I'd love it
Something like that would be great. Probably something along the lines of:
{T}: Add {1} to your mana pool. If you control a Forest and a Mountain, add {R}{G} to your mana pool instead.
Quote from: Frothandslosh on February 19, 2013, 04:46:50 PM
Quote from: toastani on February 19, 2013, 07:21:45 AM
More like {Urza's Tower} and {Urza's Power Plant}. I'd love it
This
Something like that would be great. Probably something along the lines of:
{T}: Add {1} to your mana pool. If you control a Forest and a Mountain, add {R}{G} to your mana pool instead.
I see that as too overpowered 2mana from a land
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 04:58:33 PM
I see that as too overpowered 2mana from a land
{Boros Garrison} {Orzhov Basilica} {Rakdos Carnarium} {Simic Growth Chamber}
I'd like to see something like the filter lands from oddyssey
Quote from: Testset on February 19, 2013, 06:34:20 PM
Quote from: izik99 on February 19, 2013, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 04:58:33 PM
I see that as too overpowered 2mana from a land
{Boros Garrison} {Orzhov Basilica} {Rakdos Carnarium} {Simic Growth Chamber}
Not even close in power. Those ones are such a massive tempo setback that I omit them from any deck that can't abuse them.
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There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
Quote from: Gorzo on February 19, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
That would be awesome solely for the fact that I (most likely) wont have to pay $60 a pop for {polluted delta} when i get more serious about legacy. But it also wont be awesome looking at the investment side of playing legacy.
Quote from: Gorzo on February 19, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
I hear they are gonna be in modern mastery witch would not put them into standard.
Quote from: izik99 on February 19, 2013, 05:04:04 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 04:58:33 PM
I see that as too overpowered 2mana from a land
{Boros Garrison} {Orzhov Basilica} {Rakdos Carnarium} {Simic Growth Chamber}
Yes but have to return a land and it comes in tapped. I guess I should have explained a little more.
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 19, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
I hear they are gonna be in modern mastery witch would not put them into standard.
Nope. Not modern legal.
A land that untaps every time you play a creature?
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 19, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 19, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
I hear they are gonna be in modern mastery witch would not put them into standard.
Nope. Not modern legal.
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Quote from: KangaRod on February 19, 2013, 08:05:27 PM
Why wouldn't they have the fetch lands and shock lands in standard at the same time?
If both are standard players can sac the fetch and get a shock and then play dualies like {sun petal grove} without any problems, making 3 color decks have extremely possible mana fixing.
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 19, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 19, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
I hear they are gonna be in modern mastery witch would not put them into standard.
Nope. Not modern legal.
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No fetchlands are in Modern Masters because the Zendikar ones are past Alara block and the Onslaught ones were never Modern legal.
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 20, 2013, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 19, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 19, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
I hear they are gonna be in modern mastery witch would not put them into standard.
Nope. Not modern legal.
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No fetchlands are in Modern Masters because the Zendikar ones are past Alara block and the Onslaught ones were never Modern legal.
Will Modern Masters solely be reprints of cards in the modern frame?
ALL cards printed are in modern frame
Quote from: Hays413 on February 20, 2013, 10:39:54 AM
ALL cards printed are in modern frame
No, I meant will MM only be reprints of cards already in the modern frame. I.E. nothing before Mirrodin will be in MM.
If so, then the Onslaught fetches will not be in Mosern Masters.
What do you guys think of legendary lands? Do you think any will be creeping into Standard any time soon?
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 20, 2013, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:14:37 PM
Quote from: Bozo_Law on February 19, 2013, 08:12:18 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 19, 2013, 08:08:14 PM
Quote from: Gorzo on February 19, 2013, 06:49:21 PM
There are rumors floating about that there may be a reprint of the onslaught fetch lands so modern players will have access to them. Now, they will never have both fetch lands and shocks in standard at the same time, so it won't happen until after RTR rotates out (at the earliest if at all) but here's my theory. We will eventually return to zendikar, no sooner than fall 2014. When we do, perhaps it will feature the onslaught fetch lands in place of the original zendikar fetch lands, which have likely been ravaged by the Eldrazi at this point.
I hear they are gonna be in modern mastery witch would not put them into standard.
Nope. Not modern legal.
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No fetchlands are in Modern Masters because the Zendikar ones are past Alara block and the Onslaught ones were never Modern legal.
Tru but if they print all ten then they can be legal. Just saying what I'm hearing. They had the insight of rtr so they have me believing.
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/218
8th Edition to Alara Reborn. So no fetches unfortunately.
Also in that article is a picture of what im 99% certain will be {city of brass}.
So your saying there is no way they are gonna expand modern into the sets that are now out of standard.
Quote from: Mikefrompluto on February 20, 2013, 04:17:34 PM
Also in that article is a picture of what im 99% certain will be {city of brass}.
its very similar to the 8th edition picture.
Quote from: Rass on February 20, 2013, 04:27:21 PM
So your saying there is no way they are gonna expand modern into the sets that are now out of standard.
IM not saying that. The article said that. The whole point of MM is to put more copies of cards that are already staples into circulation. Not to expand the format with cards that aren't already modern legal.
Quote from: Rass on February 20, 2013, 04:27:21 PM
So your saying there is no way they are gonna expand modern into the sets that are now out of standard.
wait...I can't use recent cards in modern? Why? And why are they starting at eight edition? Isn't it supposed to be after 7th edition?
Quote from: Birdbrain on February 20, 2013, 04:33:37 PM
Quote from: Rass on February 20, 2013, 04:27:21 PM
So your saying there is no way they are gonna expand modern into the sets that are now out of standard.
wait...I can't use recent cards in modern? Why? And why are they starting at eight edition? Isn't it supposed to be after 7th edition?
8th Edition was the first set to have the "modern" card frame. Again, this will be a REPRINT of what's already modern legal. Not a reprint of pre-modern cards to make them modern legal.
Maybe the search lands will be hidden treasures. I'm just saying what I'm hearing it could and might be totally wrong. But I can see them including the onslaught search lands to balance the colors because I looked at the imtg modern section and the zendikar lands are not on the banned list there. Either way doesn't matter to me it's not a format I play. So you can take this with a grain of salt. Not trying to argue just saying a rumor I herd.
We know for a fact that there will only be cards from 8th Edition to Alara. Onslaught was before 8th, Zendikar was after Alara. Im not arguing. Just stating the facts straight from the horse's mouth. Regardless, I don't really care either haha. Modern's is too liberal with its banned list.
Quote from: Rass on February 20, 2013, 04:50:43 PM
Maybe the search lands will be hidden treasures. I'm just saying what I'm hearing it could and might be totally wrong. But I can see them including the onslaught search lands to balance the colors because I looked at the imtg modern section and the zendikar lands are not on the banned list there. Either way doesn't matter to me it's not a format I play. So you can take this with a grain of salt. Not trying to argue just saying a rumor I herd.
The Zendikar Fetches ARE Modern legal, but Modern Masters 1, will not feature them. Maybe in the future, but not now. As far as reprints of Onslaught Fetches, we'll just have to see what the future brings, I have seen no confirmation personally of them being reprinted.
To clarify, when I said "modern legal," I was referring to older sets that are not modern legal. Not modern's banned list.
Back to the OG topic. I would like to see something like "landcycling." Maybe in the ally colors. Something like "{T} add {R} to your mana pool. Landcycle 2 (Pay {2} and discard this card: search your library for a basic plains card and put it onto the battlefield tapped.)
Maybe storage lands? {Calciform Pools} {Dreadship Reef} {Fungal Reaches} {Molten Slagheap} {Saltcrusted Steppe} etc