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Title: You know your screwed when...
Post by: JaCe BeLeReN on August 11, 2012, 09:41:24 AM
You hard cast a {Force of Will}...


Share the moments when you realized you had no hope at winning!
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 11, 2012, 09:43:11 AM
I ramped turn 3-4, saced all my eldrazi spawns (6), to play It That Betrays to turn the tide for me......mana leak........ -_-
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 11, 2012, 09:49:10 AM
Quote from: CbStrad on August 11, 2012, 09:46:11 AM
... When you're running Eldrazi and your opponent drops {Linvala, Keeper of Silence}. Right when you get enough Spawns to drop a fatty

Haha luckily no one runs one of her in my meta.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Tumalc on August 11, 2012, 09:57:05 AM
Quote from: JaCe BeLeReN on August 11, 2012, 09:41:24 AM
You hard cast a {Force of Will}...


Share the moments when you realized you had no hope at winning!

When you are about to cast something game changing and your opponent has 2 islands untapped.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Tetsomori on August 11, 2012, 11:30:20 AM
When i -9 {nicol bolas, planeswalker} and my oppenet casts {faiths reward}
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Thorn on August 11, 2012, 11:42:43 AM
When you cant get your opponents life toatal below 400.
{Stupid Life Gain Decks)
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Sevenfold on August 11, 2012, 12:48:13 PM
Whenu have 5 creaturs and your opponet has 4, your both at 4 life and u swing for the win. Then bam they play {fog}
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Kaleo42 on August 11, 2012, 02:31:33 PM
Turn one {delver of secrets} or {champion of the parish} survives to turn two on the play and hits for 3 when i have one land in play. Thats just always a downhill game that win or lose I don't even want to play.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Grexis on August 11, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
{spore flower} + 2{sporesower thallid}s
😓
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Keyeto on August 11, 2012, 03:18:07 PM
Worst thing I ever went against was a flipped {Erayo, Soratami Ascendant} and {Arcane Laboratory} on the field. What makes it worse was I reminded my opponent about the laboratory, so I kinda brought it on myself.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 11, 2012, 04:05:28 PM
When you have an amazing board presence and wonder wth your opponent is doing until you realize there are 238 cards in his library and he just cast {Battle of Wits}
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Imdowd80 on August 11, 2012, 07:12:14 PM
Quote from: Testset on August 11, 2012, 03:30:37 PM
You have 2 {Howling Mines} on the board and your opponent plays {Underworld Dreams}.
Ouch.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Imdowd80 on August 11, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
Your playing a discard deck, and your opponent doesn't have any cards in his hand.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: UltimateArtifacter on August 11, 2012, 07:17:46 PM
when you have all mana and little to know creatures to block and your opponent has amazing creatures
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Thorn on August 11, 2012, 08:39:22 PM
Whenver you play discard and your opponent has 4 {Obstinate Baloth}
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 12, 2012, 12:32:00 AM
Quote from: Grexis on August 11, 2012, 02:40:08 PM
{spore flower} + 2{sporesower thallid}s
😓

Add in {sporloth ancient} for turbo fog. 😝
And Saproling to boot.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 12, 2012, 12:34:47 AM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on August 11, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
Your playing a discard deck, and your opponent doesn't have any cards in his hand.

That's what {wistful thinking} is for. 😃 and {sign in blood}
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Silent1236 on August 12, 2012, 01:06:38 AM
You're running mill and your opponent plays {Elixir of Immortality} on T1 
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 12, 2012, 01:50:24 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on August 12, 2012, 12:34:47 AM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on August 11, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
Your playing a discard deck, and your opponent doesn't have any cards in his hand.

That's what {wistful thinking} is for. 😃 and {sign in blood}

If you are using wishfull thinking to make them discard then why not mill them for 7 with {Mind Sculpt} for 1 less mana lol
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Wackaman9001 on August 12, 2012, 11:03:54 AM
T3 {primalcrux}
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 12, 2012, 12:01:33 PM
Quote from: Coffee Vampire on August 12, 2012, 01:50:24 AM
Quote from: Quackmaster5 on August 12, 2012, 12:34:47 AM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on August 11, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
Your playing a discard deck, and your opponent doesn't have any cards in his hand.

That's what {wistful thinking} is for. 😃 and {sign in blood}

If you are using wishfull thinking to make them discard then why not mill them for 7 with {Mind Sculpt} for 1 less mana lol

{megrim} that's why. Lol. It's not a mill deck. It's a discard deck. Unfortunately people wise up and decide to play everything in their hand and not wait. But I force them to draw and then discard.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
^^^ {Liliana's Caress} and they play {Wheel and Deal}.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 12, 2012, 12:11:13 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 12:07:10 PM
^^^ {Liliana's Caress} and they play {Wheel and Deal}.

I have the caress but OOOO I need that new toy for my deck. I use {jaces archivist} for fun times.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 01:59:03 PM
It's in a multiplayer deck I face on a regular basis.

I know I'm screwed when he plays {Memory Jar}. 😓
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Imdowd80 on August 12, 2012, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 01:59:03 PM
It's in a multiplayer deck I face on a regular basis.

I know I'm screwed when he plays {Memory Jar}. 😓
More info please. I don't see the point in memory jar.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 04:46:30 PM
Imagine you have {Underworld Dreams}, {Megrim}, {Liliana's Caress}, and a {Memory Jar} on the table. You crack the jar, and everyone draws 7 cards (all opponents take 7 damage) you get a new hand, cast your stuff. Then at the end of your turn, everyone discards their seven cards and they take another 28 damage.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 12, 2012, 04:51:59 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 04:46:30 PM
Imagine you have {Underworld Dreams}, {Megrim}, {Liliana's Caress}, and a {Memory Jar} on the table. You crack the jar, and everyone draws 7 cards (all opponents take 7 damage) you get a new hand, cast your stuff. Then at the end of your turn, everyone discards their seven cards and they take another 28 damage.

Haha exactly the reason why I like the archivist and {wistful thinking}. 2 underworld dreams and two megrim.
"I'm gunna help you out. Draw two discard four. GG".
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Imdowd80 on August 12, 2012, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 04:46:30 PM
Imagine you have {Underworld Dreams}, {Megrim}, {Liliana's Caress}, and a {Memory Jar} on the table. You crack the jar, and everyone draws 7 cards (all opponents take 7 damage) you get a new hand, cast your stuff. Then at the end of your turn, everyone discards their seven cards and they take another 28 damage.
Is that the only use of jar?  Not saying don't like this, I'm going to modify my discard deck after pay day with it. But if that's the only thing people are using it for...
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: BlackJester on August 12, 2012, 08:16:36 PM
It's powerful enough to be restricted in Vintage and Banned in Legacy.

Once it's on the table, you are (for zero mana) getting a full hand on your turn. Play everything you can, and then when it's your opponent's turn everything goes back and you've just milled your enemy for 7.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Harmon74 on August 12, 2012, 08:23:43 PM
Back in the day, it was I was playing mono black and my opponent would play {karma}.  I hated that!
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: darkarts981 on August 12, 2012, 11:14:20 PM
When you hard cast an {Intet, the Dreamer} in a mono black deck ({vivid marsh} with a counter on it and 2 reflecting pools).
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Thorn on August 13, 2012, 12:23:46 AM
When your opponent plays a turn 1
{Dark Ritual}
{Despise}
{Duress}
{Horrifying Revelation}

This did happen once to me.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Coffee Vampire on August 13, 2012, 12:25:30 AM
Quote from: Thorn on August 13, 2012, 12:23:46 AM
When your opponent plays a turn 1
{Dark Ritual}
{Despise}
{Duress}
{Horrifying Revelation}
...after you muligan to 3!
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Lunamoth on August 13, 2012, 01:41:52 AM
Any time someone casts {dragon storm} or when {odric, master tactician} attacks and you're playing a deck based on blocking creatures or when {circu, dimir lobotomist} comes into play
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: remasuri ger on August 13, 2012, 09:16:54 AM
When my Opponent got 2 {plains} an {ornithopter} and plays a {stoneforge mysthic} on his Second Turn. Only to search his {Elburus, the binding Blade}
I got nothing and he has a 13/13 flying intimidate trample in T3
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: darkarts981 on August 13, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
Quote from: KangaRod on August 13, 2012, 08:02:28 AM
Do You people really not see the power in

T "draw a new hand, cast everything that you can in it. Pick your old hand up at the end of turn, and discard anything left from the new hand. Mill your opponent for 7"

?
You are referring to memory jar correct?

You know you're screwed when someone has to point out the power in {memory jar}! :P
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 13, 2012, 01:10:56 PM
Just like you know you are screwed when you have to point out to someone the sheer brokeness of {necropotence}. Oh what! I was that someone. Doh!
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 13, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
You also know you are screwed when the you play a five color deck that only needs one forest to start up and don't get one until you are dead. -_-
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Imdowd80 on August 13, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
*sigh* and I was the one that needed to have both pointed out him.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Quackmaster5 on August 13, 2012, 01:28:39 PM
Quote from: Imdowd80 on August 13, 2012, 01:14:35 PM
*sigh* and I was the one that needed to have both pointed out him.

It happens to the best of us. Except for Jester. He's like the Chuck Norris of Magic. 😝
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Thorn on August 14, 2012, 09:43:48 AM
When you are playing manaless dredge and your opponent has {Trepedation Blade}
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Leviathan on August 15, 2012, 12:13:22 AM
You run a fetch heavy deck and yer opponent has 3 {Archive Trap}s in hand.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: BlackJester on August 15, 2012, 12:18:50 AM
Quote from: Leviathan on August 15, 2012, 12:13:22 AM
You run a fetch heavy deck and yer opponent has 3 {Archive Trap}s in hand.
Ha!  I did that to a friend once. His first turn was {Terramorphic Expanse}.  A slapped down three in my opening hand and cackled like a madman!  😂

Don't feel too bad for him, he was running a {Dark Depths}+{Vampire Sexmage} combo deck and had obliterated me many times.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:06:28 AM
Chaos reigns deck, modified. {Maelstrom Wanderer} cascades into {Infinite Reflections}. Endless cascades until nothing in deck but land.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Grexis on August 15, 2012, 01:15:49 AM
Quote from: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:06:28 AM
Chaos reigns deck, modified. {Maelstrom Wanderer} cascades into {Infinite Reflections}. Endless cascades until nothing in deck but land.
Wouldn't they enter the battlefield as legendaries and kill each other?
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:31:18 AM
Hmm, I need to start sleeping more...
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: smokin terry on August 15, 2012, 01:33:13 AM
Quote from: Grexis on August 15, 2012, 01:15:49 AM
Quote from: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:06:28 AM
Chaos reigns deck, modified. {Maelstrom Wanderer} cascades into {Infinite Reflections}. Endless cascades until nothing in deck but land.
Wouldn't they enter the battlefield as legendaries and kill each other?
Yes and you would not cascade on the copies because you are not casting them. Once they enter the battlefield they become copies not when you cast them.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: tsul25 on August 15, 2012, 01:34:27 AM
Quote from: Grexis on August 15, 2012, 01:15:49 AM
Quote from: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:06:28 AM
Chaos reigns deck, modified. {Maelstrom Wanderer} cascades into {Infinite Reflections}. Endless cascades until nothing in deck but land.
Wouldn't they enter the battlefield as legendaries and kill each other?
I believe so. And I don't think the cascades would be infinite because even when the other creatures become copies you're not actually casting them.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: tsul25 on August 15, 2012, 01:35:02 AM
And I was beaten to it... Guess I type too slow :( lol
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: smokin terry on August 15, 2012, 01:36:31 AM
Quote from: tsul25 on August 15, 2012, 01:35:02 AM
And I was beaten to it... Guess I type too slow :( lol
Just by a second. ;)
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:40:57 AM
The cascades would work, cause your casting without paying its mana cost. Legend rule sticks though.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: tsul25 on August 15, 2012, 01:44:49 AM
Quote from: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:40:57 AM
The cascades would work, cause your casting without paying its mana cost. Legend rule sticks though.

You're not casting it though. When you first play infinite reflections all your creatures become wanders, but you never cast any of them so the cascade doesn't trigger. When you play another creature it will enter the battlefield as a wander, but the cascade effect isn't an ETB effect. It only triggers when the spell is cast, and you're not actually casting that spell.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: cltrn81 on August 15, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: Thorn on August 14, 2012, 09:43:48 AM
When you are playing manaless dredge and your opponent has {Trepedation Blade}
How does this screw you?  It would help you a lot actually.....that is if you are playing it right ;)
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: cltrn81 on August 15, 2012, 10:51:30 AM
Quote from: tsul25 on August 15, 2012, 01:44:49 AM
Quote from: Johng4490 on August 15, 2012, 01:40:57 AM
The cascades would work, cause your casting without paying its mana cost. Legend rule sticks though.

You're not casting it though. When you first play infinite reflections all your creatures become wanders, but you never cast any of them so the cascade doesn't trigger. When you play another creature it will enter the battlefield as a wander, but the cascade effect isn't an ETB effect. It only triggers when the spell is cast, and you're not actually casting that spell.
To clarify that last point.  If you cast a creature that enters the BF as a copy of another, regardless if it is a copy from {infinite reflections} or a creature like {phantasmal image}, it will trigger ETB triggers if the copy has an ETB trigger. 

So if you have the wanderer with {infinite reflections} attached and no other creatureson the BF .... when you cast another creature it will enter the BF as a copy of wanderer .... this will trigger the double cascade ETB but the legend rule will destroy both wanderers.
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: Gorzo on August 15, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: cltrn81 on August 15, 2012, 09:31:10 AM
Quote from: Thorn on August 14, 2012, 09:43:48 AM
When you are playing manaless dredge and your opponent has {Trepedation Blade}
How does this screw you?  It would help you a lot actually.....that is if you are playing it right ;)

Manaless dredge..so the deck has no land. Trep blade mills whole deck, equipped creature swings for +50~ish. Sure, you get to dredge to replace draws which should save you from mill-out death, but that swing is gonna hurt :P hope it doesn't have trample!
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: cltrn81 on August 15, 2012, 12:36:22 PM
Ohh yea, forgot trep blade works with lands.  I was thinking more along the lines of a mill strategy against dredge.  *facepalm*
Title: Re: You know your screwed when...
Post by: BlackJester on August 15, 2012, 03:07:50 PM
Quote from: cltrn81 on August 15, 2012, 10:51:30 AM
To clarify that last point.  If you cast a creature that enters the BF as a copy of another, regardless if it is a copy from {infinite reflections} or a creature like {phantasmal image}, it will trigger ETB triggers if the copy has an ETB trigger. 

So if you have the wanderer with {infinite reflections} attached and no other creatureson the BF .... when you cast another creature it will enter the BF as a copy of wanderer .... this will trigger the double cascade ETB but the legend rule will destroy both wanderers.
Except, Cascade isn't an ETB ability.  Otherwise, how could it be on {Bituminous Blast}.  :P  It only triggers when you cast it.