Oloro, Ageless Agitator 📝 Deck Tech 📝

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:33:22 PM

Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the Serra's Sanctum I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail

Where would I find a list of magic trade shows? Do they even exist?
Ill keep my eyes peeled for SCG opens and such.

Well there is some kind of comic convention every weekend it seems. Channel Fireball has a retail store in Santa Clara. You can haggle with them at the game store. I normally don't at my LGS, because he orders me stuff and sells it MSRP - I don't want to piss off that hookup

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on September 03, 2014, 08:36:08 PM

Quote from: Dudecore on September 03, 2014, 08:33:22 PM

Well the vendors at the events know the markups I presume, and like most good salesmen - aren't going to let you leave over a couple of bucks. Some event staples I'm sure they're more hard line with. Older cards - like the Serra's Sanctum I got at the same event - are below eBay price.

Maybe if you go to a trade show or something like that. Pretty much anywhere you don't have to pay retail

Where would I find a list of magic trade shows? Do they even exist?
Ill keep my eyes peeled for SCG opens and such.

Well there is some kind of comic convention every weekend it seems. Channel Fireball has a retail store in Santa Clara. You can haggle with them at the game store. I normally don't at my LGS, because he orders me stuff and sells it MSRP - I don't want to piss off that hookup

Selling stuff at actual MSRP? You gotta tell me where this place is

It's in Virginia. He sells every thing at MSRP. Duel decks, From the Vault ect. He and I get along well, and since I'm a collector he let's me preorder stuff.

Got my hands on a foil promo Utter End. So Return to Dust is out for now. I seriously don't like the artwork on the Game Day Top 8 Utter End, but I might have to get it just because.

Have you considered running lethal vapors??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with temporal extortion that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

Have you considered running lethal vapors??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with temporal extortion that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

I don't know dudecore's meta very well but it seems really bad in any game with an aggro deck. It basically reads; 2BB skip your next turn

Quote from: Gocougs509 on September 24, 2014, 10:50:43 PM

Have you considered running lethal vapors??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with temporal extortion that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

I don't know dudecore's meta very well but it seems really bad in any game with an aggro deck. It basically reads; 2BB skip your next turn

The player who activates it (probably not you) is the one who skips their turn. The "you" is the activator of the ability, which according to the card can be anyone.

Quote from: Hexproof_is_the_best on September 24, 2014, 10:56:02 PM

Quote from: Gocougs509 on September 24, 2014, 10:50:43 PM

Have you considered running lethal vapors??

I know it can be easily destroyed by one of your opponents, but I've noticed in my time with temporal extortion that no one ever wants to be the one to take the fall. Even when it is very advantageous to do so.

Seems like a creatureless deck would really love this card :p

I don't know dudecore's meta very well but it seems really bad in any game with an aggro deck. It basically reads; 2BB skip your next turn

The player who activates it (probably not you) is the one who skips their turn. The "you" is the activator of the ability, which according to the card can be anyone.

Is it not its controller?

That's the hitch. The opponent who pays for it loses their turn. I think it is a bit costly, I prefer Tainted Æther or Spreading Plague if I'm spending the mana. Although if you play Pithing Needle naming Lethal Vapors no one can activate the ability.

That's the hitch. The opponent who pays for it loses their turn. I think it is a bit costly, I prefer Tainted Æther or Spreading Plague if I'm spending the mana. Although if you play Pithing Needle naming Lethal Vapors no one can activate the ability.

1. Awesome synergy with pitching needle, that didn't occur to me.

2. Thanks for clarifying, sometimes "you" gets confusing in magic talk.

To go deeper, if you're in a game state you cannot lose, let's say Platinum Angel is indestructible and Hexproof, you can active Lethal Vapors 100 times, skip 100 turns and deck your opponent.

It's a cool card, I just prefer others

To go deeper, if you're in a game state you cannot lose, let's say Platinum Angel is indestructible and Hexproof, you can active Lethal Vapors 100 times, skip 100 turns and deck your opponent.

It's a cool card, I just prefer others

That's awesome I love combos like that. And yea I would agree the vapors don't seem great but maybe try them in your meta and see how it works out. Worst case scenario you're down 50 cents and up a lethal vapors

I keep talking myself into Heliod, God of the Sun and then talk myself right out of it. I love Token Generators in a Stax deck, the tokens are expensive but do juice Sphere of Safety. I also really like Indestrucible creatures because of Spreading Plague. But he's expensive, fairly difficult to get Devotion, Vigilance is nice but I wouldnt pay extra for it.

Basically I want to know if anyone runs, what is his utility range and do you think it has a place in this deck?

I keep talking myself into Heliod, God of the Sun and then talk myself right out of it. I love Token Generators in a Stax deck, the tokens are expensive but do juice Sphere of Safety. I also really like Indestrucible creatures because of Spreading Plague. But he's expensive, fairly difficult to get Devotion, Vigilance is nice but I wouldnt pay extra for it.

Basically I want to know if anyone runs, what is his utility range and do you think it has a place in this deck?

I think Heliod definitely deserves a spot. You don't seem to have a whole ton of creatures here, so he works great as a beater himself, or as a supplier for your army of 2/1 enchantment creatures :p Plus having the trifecta of gods is awesome. These are the cards that upon first glance appear to be a bit underwhelming to me, I'm sure one of them could be removed to make room for him.

Tormods crypt
trading post
ill-gotten gains
seal of clensing
Elspeth Knight-errant
Sorin Lord of innistraad

Quote from: Dudecore on October 02, 2014, 11:18:49 PM

I keep talking myself into Heliod, God of the Sun and then talk myself right out of it. I love Token Generators in a Stax deck, the tokens are expensive but do juice Sphere of Safety. I also really like Indestrucible creatures because of Spreading Plague. But he's expensive, fairly difficult to get Devotion, Vigilance is nice but I wouldnt pay extra for it.

Basically I want to know if anyone runs, what is his utility range and do you think it has a place in this deck?

I think Heliod definitely deserves a spot. You don't seem to have a whole ton of creatures here, so he works great as a beater himself, or as a supplier for your army of 2/1 enchantment creatures :p Plus having the trifecta of gods is awesome. These are the cards that upon first glance appear to be a bit underwhelming to me, I'm sure one of them could be removed to make room for him.

Tormods crypt
trading post
ill-gotten gains
seal of clensing
Elspeth Knight-errant
Sorin Lord of innistraad

I think sorins pretty solid. He produces a butt ton of tokens for the same CMC as Heliod, and if you get his emblem, they become stronger as well.