Oloro, Ageless Agitator 📝 Deck Tech 📝

I was thinking of dropping Sun Titan, only because he is not indestructible and 6 mana is a lot for me. I really start to get uncomfortable around 5+. Which is why I never added Elspeth, Sun's Champion. I was also running Dark Confidant at the time.

Sorin is good, Elspeth is better-er. Her emblem is perfect for Stax. Her tokens are worse but she has 2 good abilities.

Do either of you actually play Heliod, God of the Sun? I would like to hear how opponents react, or what kind of weirdness you can do with it.

Seal of Cleansing gets some recursion with Sun Titan, gets around In the Eye of Chaos and works with Replenish. My other recourse would be run Disenchant or Council's Judgment. A case could be made for either.

Tormod's Crypt can be changed into Nihil Spellbomb like it was before. Nihil costs more, but draws me a card if no one is interactive with their graveyard.

Trading Post is really a good way to gain some life back and draw cards. It is a really good EDH card imo. But If the situation arises where I cut Sun Titan add Heliod, God of the Sun then I can possibly cut Trading Post and add Skullclamp.

I've worked out a lot of deck permutations in my head. I really look at making the best deck possible for me. I don't want to start adding combos and stuff. I want to build my own little bubble and draw cards, with no real wincon.

I was thinking of dropping Sun Titan, only because he is not indestructible and 6 mana is a lot for me. I really start to get uncomfortable around 5+. Which is why I never added Elspeth, Sun's Champion. I was also running Dark Confidant at the time.

Sorin is good, Elspeth is better-er. Her emblem is perfect for Stax. Her tokens are worse but she has 2 good abilities.

Do either of you actually play Heliod, God of the Sun? I would like to hear how opponents react, or what kind of weirdness you can do with it.

Seal of Cleansing gets some recursion with Sun Titan, gets around In the Eye of Chaos and works with Replenish. My other recourse would be run Disenchant or Council's Judgment. A case could be made for either.

Tormod's Crypt can be changed into Nihil Spellbomb like it was before. Nihil costs more, but draws me a card if no one is interactive with their graveyard.

Trading Post is really a good way to gain some life back and draw cards. It is a really good EDH card imo. But If the situation arises where I cut Sun Titan add Heliod, God of the Sun then I can possibly cut Trading Post and add Skullclamp.

I've worked out a lot of deck permutations in my head. I really look at making the best deck possible for me. I don't want to start adding combos and stuff. I want to build my own little bubble and draw cards, with no real wincon.

I'm not a hundred percent sure you wre referring to me when you said do either if you play Heliod but anyways, I don't personally but my friend (dimiroverlord on here) plays him in his Derevi stax deck. He works pretty well although his lock down method is more stasis/winter orb stuff and so the relevant part is the vigilance, although the soldiers are nice extra untap triggers. Getting on to being relevant, I do not play Heliod but have seen him preform really well in decks at FNM or just in videos online. Inherent indestructibility is really nice, so check that off. Generating tokens that can hit stuff and block is awesome. Giving whatever other stuff you have vigilance is also awesome, vigilance tends to be really underrated.

Quote from: Dudecore on October 03, 2014, 08:09:28 PM

I was thinking of dropping Sun Titan, only because he is not indestructible and 6 mana is a lot for me. I really start to get uncomfortable around 5+. Which is why I never added Elspeth, Sun's Champion. I was also running Dark Confidant at the time.

Sorin is good, Elspeth is better-er. Her emblem is perfect for Stax. Her tokens are worse but she has 2 good abilities.

Do either of you actually play Heliod, God of the Sun? I would like to hear how opponents react, or what kind of weirdness you can do with it.

Seal of Cleansing gets some recursion with Sun Titan, gets around In the Eye of Chaos and works with Replenish. My other recourse would be run Disenchant or Council's Judgment. A case could be made for either.

Tormod's Crypt can be changed into Nihil Spellbomb like it was before. Nihil costs more, but draws me a card if no one is interactive with their graveyard.

Trading Post is really a good way to gain some life back and draw cards. It is a really good EDH card imo. But If the situation arises where I cut Sun Titan add Heliod, God of the Sun then I can possibly cut Trading Post and add Skullclamp.

I've worked out a lot of deck permutations in my head. I really look at making the best deck possible for me. I don't want to start adding combos and stuff. I want to build my own little bubble and draw cards, with no real wincon.

I'm not a hundred percent sure you wre referring to me when you said do either if you play Heliod but anyways, I don't personally but my friend (dimiroverlord on here) plays him in his Derevi stax deck. He works pretty well although his lock down method is more stasis/winter orb stuff and so the relevant part is the vigilance, although the soldiers are nice extra untap triggers. Getting on to being relevant, I do not play Heliod but have seen him preform really well in decks at FNM or just in videos online. Inherent indestructibility is really nice, so check that off. Generating tokens that can hit stuff and block is awesome. Giving whatever other stuff you have vigilance is also awesome, vigilance tends to be really underrated.

I don't know if id call my deck stax...

Yeah that's the kinda stuff I'm into knowing. I could see vigilance being good in multiplayer. I wonder if I should jam Meekstone, but that might be getting greedy.

I know a lot of Deveri decks run Heliod, but I've never heard of Stax doing it.

Greater auramancy?

Greater auramancy?

 I don't know if I like Greater Auramancy. It just seems like it might eat a Aura Shards then continue, which is usually the case. I can free up some room for it I guess. I've got some pondering to do

+1 for the suggestion.

This deck needs Embargo

This deck needs Embargo

You prefer Embargo over Meekstone? Meekstone keeps my little token guys viable when I don't have Heliod, God of the Sun out. That interaction isn't even in the deck yet, its all hypothetically speaking.

Quote from: Munchlax on October 04, 2014, 08:25:16 PM

This deck needs Embargo

You prefer Embargo over Meekstone? Meekstone keeps my little token guys viable when I don't have Heliod, God of the Sun out. That interaction isn't even in the deck yet, its all hypothetically speaking.

But imbargo is so good with Oloro

Quote from: Dudecore on October 04, 2014, 08:47:30 PM

Quote from: Munchlax on October 04, 2014, 08:25:16 PM

This deck needs Embargo

You prefer Embargo over Meekstone? Meekstone keeps my little token guys viable when I don't have Heliod, God of the Sun out. That interaction isn't even in the deck yet, its all hypothetically speaking.

But imbargo is so good with Oloro

The penalty hurts less with Oloro. But my deck is about resource denial, but I can't deny my own resources. I count on mana rocks untapping each turn after I destroy all Lands. Embargo practically locks me out of the game as well as everyone else. It's not fun being on the receiving end of that

Does vile consumption have a place in here?

Yep. I just don't know what to cut...I like that card though. Maybe lose Spreading Plague?

Yep. I just don't know what to cut...I like that card though.

Night of souls betrayal? I know it locks with humility, but if you have humility, they're gonna be saccing all their dudes snyhow.

Quote from: Dudecore on October 28, 2014, 11:19:14 PM

Yep. I just don't know what to cut...I like that card though.

Night of souls betrayal? I know it locks with humility, but if you have humility, they're gonna be saccing all their dudes snyhow.

I hear ya. I'll give it a go.

+1 for suggestion with a cut.

Look who came in the mail today

2 cards left. Phyrexian Arena and Vampiric Tutor.