Imink

Yep he said it in Keyeto's trial

Quote from: Ducky on July 29, 2013, 03:11:39 PM

Ok we'll my 25 cents is worth more than yours.
First off it not your problem and second of all fast no took a long f ing time excuse my language. Took way too long. Now with you vise or what ever your name is you trying to butt in only causes problems you have no point here besides saying what someone else all ready said neg karma me if you like and you will finde yourself on the other end of neg karma. So plz just leave this post alone

You need to relax.... Dont threaten people about neg karma or you will find yourself in the same spot i was at... Around -30.

Just sit back and dont look at this thread for a while. :-)

Voice of reason, have a nice day

How long do we want to give him? 48h?

48 hrs isn't necessary I fully take responsibility for what I have done. My reasoning behind this was me trying to get my friend a nice gift for his birthday I do realize that the ethics behind this was wrong and incredibly low I apologize to the rightful winner.i will gladly take the punishment that will follow I assume that what I've done deserves a serious punishment negative karma could and should be part of it fell free to banish me or something of that sort but just so you know I do enjoy being part of this community and I do hope to rejoin it when you decide it's ready.

          - I'm sorry

                        Sincerely Imink     


Congratulations honest winners

Well then. There we have it. Imink is guilty of being honest about lying.

Well then. There we have it. Imink is guilty of being honest about lying.

I'm sorry, I know we need to be a little serious here and all.

But That was funny

Ok maybe I'm the only one here that thinks this but I don't believe he lied. What he did was a dick move all around I will grant you that. But when you guys do contests like this you need to be more thorough with the rules. He found a way to beat the system and he's being punished for it, why? I 100% agree that it was a dick move on his part and completely unsportsmen like but I wouldn't call it cheating I think the blame should fall on the people who set up the contest with out being more thorough with the rules. Look at it in a wider perspective and like someone else said he put his own name in the new names. It would have taken 2 seconds for someone to post that only one vote per ipaddress  or no user without a join date of the day before the contest is alowed to vote. Or something like that. Like I said before it was a dick move but with out rules to govern the contest is it still wrong I don't think it was. Still a dick thing to do though.
As pitor says "Logic is the ultimate law."  And logic points out that any one in the contest had the abilty to do this but didn't and that's not his fault.

If you wanted the winning prize (I believe it was an altered beast token), whitedrake does commissions, and I can say for certain that if you asked him to make one for you he would happily do it. 
As for whether it was against the rules to make multiple accounts and vote for himself, that's like not telling the cops the whole story when they question you.  You didn't lie to them, but you still withheld evidence, which is illegal.  Just how I see it.

Anoobass

I don't feel like he broke the rules of the contest, because as far as I see - it does not prohibit the use of multiple accounts for voting. However, lies of omission are still lies. Breaking iMtG law is still breaking iMtG law.

Next time itd probably be best to have the finalist to vote for their favorites, that way there is no discrepancy. If actual value is on the line.

And for the record: I'd like a Whitedrake token - I don't know what one is, but it sounds incredible.

Ok maybe I'm the only one here that thinks this but I don't believe he lied. What he did was a dick move all around I will grant you that. But when you guys do contests like this you need to be more thorough with the rules. He found a way to beat the system and he's being punished for it, why? I 100% agree that it was a dick move on his part and completely unsportsmen like but I wouldn't call it cheating I think the blame should fall on the people who set up the contest with out being more thorough with the rules. Look at it in a wider perspective and like someone else said he put his own name in the new names. It would have taken 2 seconds for someone to post that only one vote per ipaddress  or no user without a join date of the day before the contest is alowed to vote. Or something like that. Like I said before it was a dick move but with out rules to govern the contest is it still wrong I don't think it was. Still a dick thing to do though.
As pitor says "Logic is the ultimate law."  And logic points out that any one in the contest had the abilty to do this but didn't and that's not his fault.

Thats like saying its not cheating to study the answer sheet of a test.

If you wanted the winning prize (I believe it was an altered beast token), whitedrake does commissions, and I can say for certain that if you asked him to make one for you he would happily do it. 
As for whether it was against the rules to make multiple accounts and vote for himself, that's like not telling the cops the whole story when they question you.  You didn't lie to them, but you still withheld evidence, which is illegal.  Just how I see it.

Anoobass

I think it's two different to be compared to that cause I didn't see him withheld anything he came out and said it was him.  Also more often than not individual questioning is thrown out as hear say unless there's physical evidence to support it or it was the last statement given b4 death. Btw I have a ba in criminal justice. So that's why I'm looking at it the way I am. Also withholding facts on a case that are found out latter usually has the result of the charge of interfering with a police investigation.  But it's not lying.

Well you have me there, I get my info from law and order and NCIS, so I kind of only know basics, but either way, still a crime.

I don't feel like he broke the rules of the contest, because as far as I see - it does not prohibit the use of multiple accounts for voting. However, lies of omission are still lies. Breaking iMtG law is still breaking iMtG law.

Next time itd probably be best to have the finalist to vote for their favorites, that way there is no discrepancy. If actual value is on the line.

And for the record: I'd like a Whitedrake token - I don't know what one is, but it sounds incredible.

Like I said I don't see we're he lied by omission. Did anyone ask him up front if he was doing this until the contest was over. Cause from the looks of it the first time someone called him on it he said yes that's what he did so I still don't see how he lied.

Obstruction of Justice is still a crime, correct?

That isn't apt in this case. All of the evidence of his guilt was provided upfront, and he immediately confessed to being guilty. No justice was obstructed. Also, I'd say since he didnt actually "win", and didnt receive any monetary gain - there is not a victim.

The rightful winner is flicker, even by Iminks own admission. Imink is guilty of assuming multiple aliases, which upon questioning he confessed.

Quote from: Cal8301 on August 01, 2013, 12:05:57 AM

Ok maybe I'm the only one here that thinks this but I don't believe he lied. What he did was a dick move all around I will grant you that. But when you guys do contests like this you need to be more thorough with the rules. He found a way to beat the system and he's being punished for it, why? I 100% agree that it was a dick move on his part and completely unsportsmen like but I wouldn't call it cheating I think the blame should fall on the people who set up the contest with out being more thorough with the rules. Look at it in a wider perspective and like someone else said he put his own name in the new names. It would have taken 2 seconds for someone to post that only one vote per ipaddress  or no user without a join date of the day before the contest is alowed to vote. Or something like that. Like I said before it was a dick move but with out rules to govern the contest is it still wrong I don't think it was. Still a dick thing to do though.
As pitor says "Logic is the ultimate law."  And logic points out that any one in the contest had the abilty to do this but didn't and that's not his fault.

Thats like saying its not cheating to study the answer sheet of a test.

Then using notes from class on a test is cheating as well even if the teacher allows it. Even though its two completely different scenario's.

Obstruction of Justice is still a crime, correct?

That isn't apt in this case. All of the evidence of his guilt was provided upfront, and he immediately confessed to being guilty. No justice was obstructed. Also, I'd say since he didnt actually "win", and didnt receive any monetary gain - there is not a victim.

The rightful winner is flicker, even by Iminks own admission. Imink is guilty of lying about his aliases, which upon questioning he confessed.

 
Like I said if he told the truth after the first person asked him how did he lie?  Look at it like this if he would have said In the fourm that he was doing this and nothing in the rules said he couldn't and he did it how would you dq him for it? And it's only lying if he dodged the question or flat out answered false to it which he did neither.