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I didn't lie I found a loophole?

I'm not actually even entirely disagreeing with you.

I think that he's most certainly guilty of run-on sentences. His confession is lacking the most basic of punctuation. As far as lying? Well he had to be caught lying, which he was not. His omission of the truth comes from the fact that he did not confess to the fact that he was unfairly stacking the deck in his favor by his own accord. He would have likely accepted the prize, had it not been for this trial. That is a lie through omission.

But since it was not written as "1 vote per entrant" or "only one vote per iOS device" it would CLEARLY be against the rules. However it was not, and he operated unfairly and in a dickly manner.

I do not think I deserve the prize. And I also didn't violate imgt law is that correct?

I do not think I deserve the prize. And I also didn't violate imgt law is that correct?

That's my take on it. To be honest I think you screwed your self by not just coming out and saying what your were doing as it wasn't Against the rules. But you said you were in the wrong and screwed your self so karma kinda got you pretty quick on this one for pulling a dick move then screwing your self out of the prize.

I agree

I do not think I deserve the prize. And I also didn't violate imgt law is that correct?

Well, how would you like it if you were running a contest, and someone who did what you did usurped the results? Which punishment would you prescribe that person? Think fair and unbiased.

What's done is infact done, I'm also not leading this trial or condemning you. Just interested in what you've got to say.

I'd think a major karma change would be appropriate ,possibly a day long ban.Of course this is just off of what I did and I also think that a person in a similar situation should not be allowed to enter a contest without a mod supervising every action. Do you agree, or was that harsh?

Edit the final verdict is always up to Piotr and the victim of the crime.

Anonymous vote stuffing is cheating.

Yes and no there was no rules saying that someone could not make accounts and vote for them selfs therefore no rules were broken. Was this action really low yes but I didn't break any rules. I only used a loophole.

Did you do something that others wouldn't want to be done to them?

As pitor says "Logic is the ultimate law."  And logic points out that any one in the contest had the abilty to do this but didn't and that's not his fault.

Did he do to others what they wouldn't want to be done to them? Your logic is so flawed that I find it disturbing to even discuss this. By your logic it is not my fault if I steal your property because everyone has the ability to steal it. Are you mad?

I didn't lie I found a loophole?

Fortunately, no you didn't found any loophole in our law. You are guilty of cheating, which is something people do not want to be done to them.

Victims, call for punishment please.

I do not think I deserve the prize. And I also didn't violate imgt law is that correct?

False. Both cannot be true at the same time. If you didn't violate iMtG law, you deserve the prize as the rightful winner. If you did violate the law, you don't deserve the prize as the cheater. You very clearly did something which people wouldn't want to be done to themselves, you are a cheater, hence you do not deserve the prize.

Quote from: Cal8301 on August 01, 2013, 12:05:57 AM

As pitor says "Logic is the ultimate law."  And logic points out that any one in the contest had the abilty to do this but didn't and that's not his fault.

Did he do to others what they wouldn't want to be done to them? Your logic is so flawed that I find it disturbing to even discuss this. By your logic it is not my fault if I steal your property because everyone has the ability to steal it. Are you mad?

If trust is so common then why did man invent the lock you need to take a step back and look at the entire situation he didn't lie even dude core agrees to that fact. And it's not the same as there are laws and rules that govern theft in the world. There were no rules in this matter that said he couldn't do this. Right or wrong. And that's how it needs to be looked at. And if you make a contest with out proper rules people will find ways to abuse the system it's fact. So to call me mad because I point out fact not feelings in this matter was childish and uncalled for. If you like to run a community based on a moral stand point that's fine but don't be surprised when people who believe in rules and law but heads with you. I'm sure you at some point have played d&d or something like it it's the dif between good and lawful good. If you look at things from a good perspective you weight out your options when makeing a decision but if your lawful then your feelings don't matter you always do what the laws say regardless of personal feeling.  And like I said karma got this individual but if he wouldn't have put his foot in his mouth he would have won by law he did nothing wrong now morally it was a dick thing to do and you need to see the difference.