Touchy Subjects #4 18+ NSFW - the appropriate use of recreational drugs

Since we're getting all controversial up in this fizzy, lets talk about drugs. Pot, cocaine, heroin, magic mushrooms, PCP, opium, mescaline, methamphetamine, adderal, Vicodin, Xanax, oxytocin etc.

Now most of you have taken commitments during red ribbon week to never do them in your life. Don't worry, high school and college will break down those walls.

I recently noticed while having a conversation with my girlfriend that most anti drug positions out there state: Drug ABUSE is life abuse. We've all seen this sticker or statement somewhere. Could it mean that big government knows we will use, but recommends you don't abuse it?

 I smoke marijuana daily, some may view that negatively and some may envy it. Recently had a friend go over the edge on a ketamine binge and he has completely lost his personality. So in your opinions - appropriate experimentation/use and overconsumption/abuse. Where is this line drawn in the sand pit of life?

I'm all for drug use/marijuana use if you're smart about it and can function WITHOUT it. I know too many people that have become dependent on drugs (actual drugs; marijuana is not a drug,) and that's sad to me. But hey, at the end of the day, it has no effect on my life, so do whatever you want.

I went through a period where I smoked a lot of pot and it stopped being enjoyable, so I quit. Same with drinking. Also the people I was hanging around got into serious stuff (cocaine, heroin, dropping acid on the regular) and I had to remove myself from that environment. Now, the most I'll do is take aspirin and drink beer every now and then.

I also have an addictive personality, so I had to get a handle on things before it spiraled out of control.

No victim, no crime.

I don't do drugs anymore, I used to. I just drink habitually. I'm all for it. Who cares who does what in the privacy of their own homes? It's not up to the government. The war on drugs has been an abysmal failure.

The US has 50% of the worlds prison population. Non-violent drug offenders are all too often incarcerated. Disproportionately of them are non-whites. We have every reason to believe that whites engage in drug use as often as non-white's. it's an institution of racism that discriminates for no reason.

A lot of people I'm around use Mary Jane to help with pain, and I'm fine with that, pot as a whole is fine to me. However never say it isn't a gateway drug, it ruined my father and almost ruined more than a few of my friends. I just avoid it, I like it more than alcohol but until it's legalized I'll pass.

I think that it is okay to take drugs that don't make yew hurt others, as long as you don't do it much, can function without it, and don't break other laws when your doing them. I also think you should only take them if you have a reason, like bad times, pain, etc, and not just "because I want to".

I think that it is okay to take drugs that don't make yew hurt others, as long as you don't do it much, can function without it, and don't break other laws when your doing them. I also think you should only take them if you have a reason, like bad times, pain, etc, and not just "because I want to".

Why not just because I want to?

Then it could easily get out of control, and they are more likely to do something that will hurt them.

Do not break law in prevention of lawbreaking.

The long version: do not do to others what they wouldn't want to be done to them to prevent the others from doing something which you wouldn't want to be done to you.

Example: I will not ban you to prevent you from insulting me.

Having said that I will ban you when you insult me. If you do it while sober or intoxicated is irrelevant.

I think that if there is some way to regulate the use through free enterprise, I'm ok with it.  For example, you have to go to a actual place where you buy the drug, and can't leave until the effects wear off.  It becomes too easy for people to hurt other people when they are under the influence.  Look at alcohol right now, and how many drunk driving deaths occur because of it.  It would be worse with pot and other drugs that make you hallucinate.

Bottom line, if you can be supervised by someone responsible until the effects wear off, I'm ok with it. (The gov would find a way to botch it, hence free enterprise)

Tho a place of safe sale should be made, pot cannot be compared to alcohol in impairment. Some studies even suggest it may make drivers more aware of their surroundings. But driving should only be done to get it home to smoke IMO, and by the way people don't hallucinate on marijuana, they freak out and are convinced of thing happening. Just some people can't control themselfs with booze and some even say cigs give them an opiate high, it's all mental, in that chemically it doesn't do it.

I smoke pot. Not on a daily basis anymore but somewhat regularly. I've also been a pretty hardcore drinker. Drinking is legal. Smoking is not. But what I've come to learn is that alcohol adversely affects you more then pot. There's never been a time when smoking pot made me unable to function...and yes I've smoked a lot in one sitting (for those who understand, I've smoked an ounce of chronic with just 2 other people. No breaks) but I was still able to function and I knew what was going on in the world. The same cannot be said for alcohol.  Some of the most idiotic things and situations I've been in involved alcohol.

That being said I don't really agree to recreational drug use when it comes to come, heroin, acid, meth, and I'm not big on most pills. Especially if kids are in the home where these drugs are used. Accidents happen.

Ok, so I was wrong about pot.  I believe what I said is correct for things like heroin though.

Yes you were wrong about pot. I believe you are wrong about heroin as well. In itself it is pretty harmless drug as far as third party is concerned. The heroin user will sit in a quiet corner and have the time of his life, and be totally passive. No harm will be done to others while the user is intoxicated.

The problem with heroin starts with the fact that it is a highly addictive drug. The reason why it is addictive is that it gives you the ultimate happiness, which cannot be matched by anything at all in real life. I am told that taking heroine is the best thing ever. It makes your normal life feel rubbish, worthless and grim in comparison. That is why it is so addictive.

Heroine was invented and brought to market by Bayer, one of the big pharma companies. In itself it is pretty harmless to the health of the user. It is cheap to produce. After delegalisation the expected happened: the price shoot through the roof and the quality of the drug in terms of purity went to the dogs. Because it is highly addictive, that didn't stop its users from obtaining it and using it, obviously. They will do anything and risk everything to get their time of their life.

The problem with heroin is not the drug itself, it is the fact that it is illegal. Were it legal as it was in the beginning, the weak minded people would be able to easily afford it and sit in their corners having their artificial happiness, doing no harm to others, while gang lords would lose their huge profits. I have very little doubt that a good portion of said profits is spent on lobbying politicians to keep heroin illegal.

I believe heroine has absolutely no lasting biological effects either. Where other drugs like marijuana, cocaine and others do. Besides the physical dependency, a former heroine user can expect to not ruin their lungs, kidneys, liver or brain after becoming sober: unless of course they ruined those things throughout their addiction (poor eating, bathing, and health habits)

I've worked with heroine addicts, I've dated (briefly) a heroine addict. Believe me, you'd never know. They can be full functioning then do their thing when they need too. If not for the associated costs of doing it - it is fairly benign.

I believe heroine has absolutely no lasting biological effects either. Where other drugs like marijuana (...) do.

Our bodies actually have our own natural cannabinoids system, pure THC is safe as far as physical health goes. I'm a bit of an expert on marijuana use and it has pretty much no lasting biological effects either, when inhaled using quality vaporizer. I would advise not to smoke it though, smoke contains a lot of naughty stuff which does affect your health in a bad way. Still, nowhere near as bad as smoking tobacco, which is legal

Well I know pot comes from the evil planet of Kush and it grows inside you pushing out your soul in smoke form so I'm against it! (This is sarcasm) on a real note tho everyone reacts differently to things like Alcohol, Tobacco, Pot, and other drugs. Do I smoke pot or tobacco? No. Do I drink? No. But have I? Yes I've tried them and didnt like them. But to the main point I'm getting to is that none of these should be legal because all of them have caused deaths. And in some cases created life.