Touchy Subjects #4 18+ NSFW - the appropriate use of recreational drugs

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Xaol
Boss 100
July 20, 2013, 08:15:50 PM
Well I know pot comes from the evil planet of Kush and it grows inside you pushing out your soul in smoke form so I'm against it! (This is sarcasm) on a real note tho everyone reacts differently to things like Alcohol, Tobacco, Pot, and other drugs. Do I smoke pot or tobacco? No. Do I drink? No. But have I? Yes I've tried them and didnt like them. But to the main point I'm getting to is that none of these should be legal because all of them have caused deaths. And in some cases created life.
I don't think marijuana has caused any deaths. I may be wrong, but I have not heard of any marijuana-induced deaths.



ELLERfeller
Boss 61
July 20, 2013, 08:18:46 PM
To be more specific I mean things like Driving under the influence or things of the like!



ELLERfeller
Boss 61
July 20, 2013, 08:22:10 PM
And the Pot related deaths of a cummalitive of 9 years were 279. And 187 of those were from a direct result of the drug itself.



Melek the fire
User 8
July 20, 2013, 08:38:12 PM
And the Pot related deaths of a cummalitive of 9 years were 279. And 187 of those were from a direct result of the drug itself.

There has NEVER been a documented case of death due primarily to pot, ever. Asphyxiation due to over smoking in a short amount of time is as close as anyone's ever gotten. I'd like to see where your numbers came from.



Xaol
Boss 100
July 20, 2013, 09:47:59 PM
Smoking anything technically is bad for you- however compared to smoking cogareettes, the amount of carcinogens and suxh you out in your body is quite small when smoking weed. I use a vaporiser- it's a bit more healthy! I see nothing wrong with drugs, as I believe that it's up to the individual to dictate what they will and won't do. I would also like to see the above poster's proof of 249 marijuana-related deaths.



ELLERfeller
Boss 61
July 20, 2013, 10:41:05 PM
My source is the FDA study conducted from 1997 till 2006. The main argument base in most Pot related debates politically. And to say there have been no primary deaths from pot is sceptical at most. I mean people have died from many things that they haven't been putting into their blood stream.



Silent1236
User+ 100
July 20, 2013, 10:41:32 PM
Sooo, am I the only one that doesn't/hasn't smoked pot?



Xaol
Boss 100
July 20, 2013, 11:04:40 PM
Sooo, am I the only one that doesn't/hasn't smoked pot?
It might feel that way, but many haven't.



Anoobass
Boss 100
July 20, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
I haven't either, though I do know that pot isn't nearly as bad for you.  My psychology professor told us that the most dangerous drug on the planet, the one that causes the most deaths is...alcohol.  Now some of you may think alcohol isn't a drug, it fits in all the categories of drugs.  Thankfully I always keep my books from college (spend $200 on them, not selling for $15) so if anyone would like me to get the numbers it will take a day or 2 but I can easily do that for you.

And to liven everybody up, a quote from squidbillies:
"Do you know how many alcohol and tobacco related deaths there were last year?  Over 435,000.  Do you know how many people marijuana killed?  One, one dumb ass that tried to hackysack a tarantula."



Mikefrompluto
User 100
July 20, 2013, 11:42:45 PM
My source is the FDA study conducted from 1997 till 2006. The main argument base in most Pot related debates politically. And to say there have been no primary deaths from pot is sceptical at most. I mean people have died from many things that they haven't been putting into their blood stream.

Link it, man!



ELLERfeller
Boss 61
July 20, 2013, 11:46:49 PM
medicalmarij.....rceID=000174

*And please read my other post so y'all do not think Im an idiot when it comes to alcohol and tobacco I clearly state all should be illegal.



Mikefrompluto
User 100
July 21, 2013, 12:00:31 AM
From the same site:

 "Marijuana is rarely the only drug involved in a drug abuse death. Thus ... the proportion of marijuana-induced cases labeled as 'One drug' (i.e., marijuana only) will be zero or nearly zero."
2003 - Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration

Primary suspect: 0 deaths. Secondary suspect: 279. This means marijuana itself contributed to 0 deaths. Those 279 deaths were cases where marijuana was found in the system IN ADDITION to other drugs.

As stated above, the harm from marijuana comes from smoking it (you are breathing fire, after all.) You can walk into a burning forest and it would be just as harmful. Vaporizing or baked goods is the safest way to go.



ELLERfeller
Boss 61
July 21, 2013, 12:17:25 AM
But doesn't that also support the fact that it's an acting gateway drug? Don't get me wiring I'm just as against the others as much as I am this drug but this thread is focused on this particular drug so I will focus on it as well.



Melek the fire
User 8
July 21, 2013, 12:30:05 AM
But doesn't that also support the fact that it's an acting gateway drug? Don't get me wiring I'm just as against the others as much as I am this drug but this thread is focused on this particular drug so I will focus on it as well.

Time an time again, people call pot a gateway drug, when in reality it's only the first used because of it availability an cheap price. The true gateway drug is an has always been alcohol. Cannabis has so many proven medical benefits that it shouldn't even fall in the same category as the rest. Besides creating an altered state I mind.



ELLERfeller
Boss 61
July 21, 2013, 12:32:32 AM
Yes please read I am not disputing the fact that alcohol is a drug or even a gateway drug but anything that gives an experiance of the sort is what becomes desired and pot gives that thus gets the user to seek more of these experiences.



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