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DownMay 06, 2013, 02:48:37 PM
Public Shootings(batman guy, Norway guy, vtech, school shooter etc): Government ploys or just crazy people with guns?GO!
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May 06, 2013, 03:08:18 PM
Crazy people obviously. no one in their right mind would do such a thing.
Or are they??
Last Edit: May 06, 2013, 03:11:16 PM by Muggywuggy
May 06, 2013, 03:14:54 PM
Not quite. I did a bit of research, actually. It seems that the rate our money is destroyed at annually is shown here, by the Fed itself:No idea. I'm not sure if that is privatised information or common knowledge. I'll try and look it up. I know the rate changes constantly.Part of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans.Not quite how the US money system works. While the US is constantly printing money through the FED, it's taking out money at the same time. Why? To battle inflation. The bills which are destroyed are ones which are worn out or ripped. New ones are printed to replace them; the Fed determines at what rate money is created and destroyed, and it has nothing to do with fixing the debt. Rather, the Fed bases the ratio off of the perceived best way to battle inflation. Not to mention, printing more money to reduce the debt would only scale the debt to match the jump in inflation rates.
Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
Do you know what is the rate at which the money is printed and at which it is destroyed?
I'll help you with that: it is destroyed at insignificant rate and it is printed at stupidly high rate, so your claim is false and BB is quite correct in his view of how the money system in US works.
www.moneyfac.....figures.html
Their statistic shows that 8.4 billion notes were printed in 2012.
Our rate of bill destruction? In 2010, it was:
"In 2010, [the Fed's] cash offices destroyed 5.95 billion notes"
From m.theatlanti.....-how/236990/
So with inflation rates of 1.5% currently (see www.tradinge.....nflation-cpi) I'm having trouble understanding how the US is printing money to pay for its debt. If they were, we wouldn't have interest rates nearly as low; in fact, to cover our debt, we'd essentially have inflation so high it would be like post WW1 Germany.
Most of money is created as debt in the banks and never printed, simply transferred within the banking system, but still it is ending in your grocery bag at the end. BB mentioned debt at the very beginning, so I can safely call a lie on your thesis: the truth is that physical destruction of paper money is insignificant to the amount of money printed in digital form. Think MTGO
May 06, 2013, 03:28:28 PM
Public Shootings(batman guy, Norway guy, vtech, school shooter etc): Government ploys or just crazy people with guns?
GO!
The government doesn't need to make ploys to take away our human rights. If they supposedly crashed planes into the towers to get us into a war with Iraq? Their cover story is horrible, because Saudis did it. They made up all of their intell on Iraq anyways. They've created several laws to subvert the constitution in public. What's to stop them from just removing the 2nd amendment? I don't think CovertOps creating mass shootings is even worth it at that point - just make new laws restricting guns.
During the Boston bombing police were pulling people out of their houses at gun point because they're allowed to do that during "terrorist" investigations. They did it because they passed laws removing our civil liberties and rights to property. It's all on the books, conspiracy theorists dream up elaborate, illogical plans for things that are in plain sight.
Staging 9/11 and run the risk of something going wrong, or someone speaking about it. Or just point at tractor trailers and say they're "mobile chemical factories" and invade Iraq anyway. We let them get away with it all the time, there is no armed revolution nor will there be. We're too busy working to pay our debts for things we need to live.
The American government is horribly inept anyway. Do you really think they're capable of staging these events? They couldn't keep the atom bomb a secret! The most important thing to our continued global dominance was stolen by 2 spies, sparking a several trillion dollar Cold War and space program. These are the same people?
Last Edit: May 06, 2013, 03:37:05 PM by Dudecore
May 06, 2013, 03:58:49 PM
The American government is horribly inept anyway. Do you really think they're capable of staging these events? They couldn't keep the atom bomb a secret! The most important thing to our continued global dominance was stolen by 2 spies, sparking a several trillion dollar Cold War and space program. These are the same people?
Maybe the Russians figured the bomb themselves, they are smart people. Government killed two unimportant people to make an example?
May 06, 2013, 04:08:00 PM
What exactly did Chris Dorner know? They chased him down according to gang rules, not the law.May 06, 2013, 04:27:59 PM
The government has to Many gun laws already, they just don't apply them. Which annoys me that nobody sees that.You don't need more gun laws, just apply the ones you have.
May 06, 2013, 04:59:44 PM
The American government is horribly inept anyway. Do you really think they're capable of staging these events? They couldn't keep the atom bomb a secret! The most important thing to our continued global dominance was stolen by 2 spies, sparking a several trillion dollar Cold War and space program. These are the same people?
Maybe the Russians figured the bomb themselves, they are smart people. Government killed two unimportant people to make an example?
Then why the space race? We spent tons of money to beat them to the moon to show American superiority. We haven't been back since the Cold War ended, because it was never about exploring the moon - it was to demoralize Russia.
May 06, 2013, 05:23:49 PM
It was NOT to mainly demoralise Russia; rather, it was to show the American people and the rest of the world that the US was the stronger of the two powers.The American government is horribly inept anyway. Do you really think they're capable of staging these events? They couldn't keep the atom bomb a secret! The most important thing to our continued global dominance was stolen by 2 spies, sparking a several trillion dollar Cold War and space program. These are the same people?
Maybe the Russians figured the bomb themselves, they are smart people. Government killed two unimportant people to make an example?
Then why the space race? We spent tons of money to beat them to the moon to show American superiority. We haven't been back since the Cold War ended, because it was never about exploring the moon - it was to demoralize Russia.
May 06, 2013, 09:10:02 PM
Good one. I see.Most of money is created as debt in the banks and never printed, simply transferred within the banking system, but still it is ending in your grocery bag at the end. BB mentioned debt at the very beginning, so I can safely call a lie on your thesis: the truth is that physical destruction of paper money is insignificant to the amount of money printed in digital form. Think MTGO
Actually,
useconomy.ab.....ng-Money.htm
It looks like you are the liar.
May 06, 2013, 10:49:44 PM
I don't think there is much for me to debate about. imma drop out of this convo. ✌May 07, 2013, 05:14:38 AM
Most of money is created as debt in the banks and never printed, simply transferred within the banking system, but still it is ending in your grocery bag at the end. BB mentioned debt at the very beginning, so I can safely call a lie on your thesis: the truth is that physical destruction of paper money is insignificant to the amount of money printed in digital form. Think MTGO
Actually,
useconomy.ab.....ng-Money.htm
It looks like you are the liar.
How an article which confirms what I said makes me a liar? Do you understand that false accusation is a particularly bad form of lying?
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