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DownMay 05, 2013, 06:55:23 PM
Yes, someone did say that. In fact I believe Obama himself said that. During his run for re-election in fact. He kept referencing his actions to Reagan. In fact people made it a running thing, "What would Reagan do?". He hasn't been doing anything Reagan would have done, and look where that has gotten us. He keeps wasting money on inconvenient programs let me post a few in fact.I want to ask a question why do you think Ronald Reagan was bad. During his presidency we were prosperous as a nation. He lowered taxes for everybody, cutting government spending by getting rid of stupid programs that are funded by the government.
If you think he's bad because Obama bases his policies of Reaganomics, (Which is a lie Obama does the exact opposite) then that's stupid
So cutting Head Start by 90% was a good thing? It worries me if you think funding for a program that helps struggling youth in school being cut made sense. Not to mention not funding AIDs research at all until he was called out on it. Didn't he also fire air traffic controllers, which led to fatalities in air traffic increasing?
Don't put words into someone's mouth. No one said Obama based his policies off of Reaganomics.
1. The federal government is spending 25 billion dollars a year maintaining federal buildings that are either unused, or totally vacent.
2. One professor is Stanford University was sent 239,100 dollars to study how Americans find love.
3. The US spent 2.6 million dollars to train Chinese Prostitutes to drink responsibly.
4. The department of Health and Human Services plans on spending 500 million dollars on a program that will, among others things, seek to solve the problem of why 5-6 year old children "can't sit still" in a kindergarten classroom.
5. The US government spent 175,587 dollars, "to determine if cocaine makes Japanese quail engage in sexually risky behavior.
There are so many more stupid thing the government funds that they can just cut, but they are too stupid to realize that there is this much, and so many more programs that lead to trivial answers that nobody cares about.
What does any of that have to do with whether Reagan was a good president or not?
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May 05, 2013, 06:57:52 PM
Education spending is somewhat of a sham. It goes under the pretention of it's the teachers that are the problem, not a child that is unwilling to learn.May 05, 2013, 07:01:30 PM
So cutting Head Start by 90% was a good thing? It worries me if you think funding for a program that helps struggling youth in school being cut made sense.
Yes, because goal never justifies the means and the means for Head Start are taxpayers money. Taxpayers didn't want their money forcefully taken away and spent on Head Start.
Under iMtG law, you are correct. But that's not how America operates. If your taxes are going to be forcibly taken away, whether you're okay with that or not, wouldnt you rather then go towards a greater good such as education or research for a virus that's wiping people out?
No, I would rather have my taxes lowered.
May 05, 2013, 07:04:37 PM
It's not just teachers if we're talking educationPeople having children : if you allow your child to be an uneducated 💩 and think that public school is free babysitting then you're just an unfit parent, thank you for addIng to the problem
I grew up as a child in the 90s, we averaged 20-25 kids in a class, everyone with their own books...now on average there is 35-40 children per class who must share books. In some areas they speak 2 languages.
So you have to think; they probably need some more funding too for education. We don't need to keep upgrading security items and giving (indirectly) law enforcement funds to buy technology for the government to regulate us more with.
Now if we could have a proper fiscal report I'm sure people would like to be informed where money is REALLY being spent
Last Edit: May 05, 2013, 07:12:44 PM by Muggywuggy
May 05, 2013, 07:35:11 PM
Part of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans. Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
May 05, 2013, 07:50:05 PM
Part of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans.Not quite how the US money system works. While the US is constantly printing money through the FED, it's taking out money at the same time. Why? To battle inflation. The bills which are destroyed are ones which are worn out or ripped. New ones are printed to replace them; the Fed determines at what rate money is created and destroyed, and it has nothing to do with fixing the debt. Rather, the Fed bases the ratio off of the perceived best way to battle inflation. Not to mention, printing more money to reduce the debt would only scale the debt to match the jump in inflation rates.
Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
May 05, 2013, 07:50:53 PM
Part of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans.In all retrospect I believe that you shouldn't have a creditcard in the first place
Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
May 05, 2013, 08:07:20 PM
Yea credit cards are bad ideas. Why not just use real cash lolPart of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans.In all retrospect I believe that you shouldn't have a creditcard in the first place
Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
May 05, 2013, 08:17:51 PM
People are drawn by the appeal of being able to pay for something you can't afford, and slowly paying off the debt.Yea credit cards are bad ideas. Why not just use real cash lolPart of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans.In all retrospect I believe that you shouldn't have a creditcard in the first place
Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
May 05, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
Part of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans.Not quite how the US money system works. While the US is constantly printing money through the FED, it's taking out money at the same time. Why? To battle inflation. The bills which are destroyed are ones which are worn out or ripped. New ones are printed to replace them; the Fed determines at what rate money is created and destroyed, and it has nothing to do with fixing the debt. Rather, the Fed bases the ratio off of the perceived best way to battle inflation. Not to mention, printing more money to reduce the debt would only scale the debt to match the jump in inflation rates.
Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
Do you know what is the rate at which the money is printed and at which it is destroyed?
May 05, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
No idea. I'm not sure if that is privatised information or common knowledge. I'll try and look it up. I know the rate changes constantly.Part of the problem of course, is politicians wining and dinning lawmakers to get them to make laws that benefit them. The upper class is being catered to, while the middle and lower classes are out in the back alley digging for scraps In the garbage cans.Not quite how the US money system works. While the US is constantly printing money through the FED, it's taking out money at the same time. Why? To battle inflation. The bills which are destroyed are ones which are worn out or ripped. New ones are printed to replace them; the Fed determines at what rate money is created and destroyed, and it has nothing to do with fixing the debt. Rather, the Fed bases the ratio off of the perceived best way to battle inflation. Not to mention, printing more money to reduce the debt would only scale the debt to match the jump in inflation rates.
Meanwhile. The government is stupidly printing more money to pay for there debt. Which is putting them deeper into debt. Like paying for a credit card with another credit card. And using the second credit card to pay for the first...
Do you know what is the rate at which the money is printed and at which it is destroyed?
May 05, 2013, 10:31:19 PM
I wish credit card companies would stop sending you spam mail, it annoys the hell out of me. 
May 05, 2013, 10:34:03 PM
I wish credit card companies would stop sending you spam mail, it annoys the hell out of me.you could always send THEM spam mail in return
May 05, 2013, 10:35:28 PM
Doesn't help, already tried.I wish credit card companies would stop sending you spam mail, it annoys the hell out of me.you could always send THEM spam mail in return
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