Debate thread.

This arguement is getting hilarious

All presidents made mistakes. Also, sometimes its the administration. Not the president that makes the mistakes. Yes the president can veto stuff. But the house and the senate make many decisions that are outside the presidents control. Maybe if certain presidents were kings, they would have done a better job. Some that were well liked might have been tyrants

The president though takes all the heat for bad choices of his administration. Because the people subconsisly think its all the president, and can't see behind the scenes

OOOFFFFFF WITH HIS HEAD!

All presidents made mistakes. Also, sometimes its the administration. Not the president that makes the mistakes. Yes the president can veto stuff. But the house and the senate make many decisions that are outside the presidents control. Maybe if certain presidents were kings, they would have done a better job. Some that were well liked might have been tyrants

The president though takes all the heat for bad choices of his administration. Because the people subconsisly think its all the president, and can't see behind the scenes

I see your point, and I realize it isn't all the president's fault (a majority of it is though,) but that comes with the job. They are the commander in chief. It all falls on them. That's how it is.

Because people have tendencies to turn everything into debates, this was moved and renamed. Have at it.

No, people don't tend to debate and no it wasn't moved NOR was it renamed. This is NOT a debate thread. 😏

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on April 22, 2013, 05:14:33 PM

Because people have tendencies to turn everything into debates, this was moved and renamed. Have at it.

No, people don't tend to debate and no it wasn't moved NOR was it renamed. This is NOT a debate thread. 😏

You are wrong, and here is why:



Bananas.

I want to ask a question why do you think Ronald Reagan was bad.  During his presidency we were prosperous as a nation.  He lowered taxes for everybody, cutting government spending by getting rid of stupid programs that are funded by the government.

If you think he's bad because Obama bases his policies of Reaganomics, (Which is a lie Obama does the exact opposite) then that's stupid

I want to ask a question why do you think Ronald Reagan was bad.  During his presidency we were prosperous as a nation.  He lowered taxes for everybody, cutting government spending by getting rid of stupid programs that are funded by the government.

If you think he's bad because Obama bases his policies of Reaganomics, (Which is a lie Obama does the exact opposite) then that's stupid

So cutting Head Start by 90% was a good thing? It worries me if you think funding for a program that helps struggling youth in school being cut made sense. Not to mention not funding AIDs research at all until he was called out on it. Didn't he also fire air traffic controllers, which led to fatalities in air traffic increasing?

Don't put words into someone's mouth. No one said Obama based his policies off of Reaganomics.

I think "democrat" vs. "republican" is the dumbest argument ever, they're both crony capitalist parties meant to make a much money for their corporate masters as possible. You're not getting anything new with Obama - he is George W. Bush. Anyone who thinks that he's a socialist is just regurgitating political buzzwords. He's keeping rich people plenty fat, and that isn't changing.

What is "classy" about Bush? His violation of our civil liberties? His sending Americans to their deaths for corporations? His handling of this whole situation? I have never heard a single explanation that made ANY sense about why we should go kill thousands of innocent people in a foreign country for what Saudi terrorists did during 9/11. Not a single logical reason.

And "Anti-global warming" is a decisively conservative agenda. I think they'd like to see the earth ruined before it effects their profit margins. Pretty typical line of approach here. Jesus is real, global warming is fake, Bush wasn't a bad president, Israel isn't the problem, Obama is a socialist, America has the most freedom. It's all a scheme.

I want to ask a question why do you think Ronald Reagan was bad.  During his presidency we were prosperous as a nation.  He lowered taxes for everybody, cutting government spending by getting rid of stupid programs that are funded by the government.

If you think he's bad because Obama bases his policies of Reaganomics, (Which is a lie Obama does the exact opposite) then that's stupid

When did trickle down economics work? It caused an unsubstainable boom in the 80s that collapsed with another market failure. The quest to make things BIGGER! Bigger! Bigger!!!

Reagan was a great president if you were rich. Not if you were black, crippled, a veteran, or in a union.

Quote from: FlickerYourOwnIdentity on May 05, 2013, 05:01:17 PM

I want to ask a question why do you think Ronald Reagan was bad.  During his presidency we were prosperous as a nation.  He lowered taxes for everybody, cutting government spending by getting rid of stupid programs that are funded by the government.

If you think he's bad because Obama bases his policies of Reaganomics, (Which is a lie Obama does the exact opposite) then that's stupid

So cutting Head Start by 90% was a good thing? It worries me if you think funding for a program that helps struggling youth in school being cut made sense. Not to mention not funding AIDs research at all until he was called out on it. Didn't he also fire air traffic controllers, which led to fatalities in air traffic increasing?

Don't put words into someone's mouth. No one said Obama based his policies off of Reaganomics.

Yes, someone did say that.  In fact I believe Obama himself said that.  During his run for re-election in fact.  He kept referencing his actions to Reagan.  In fact people made it a running thing, "What would Reagan do?". He hasn't been doing anything Reagan would have done, and look where that has gotten us.  He keeps wasting money on inconvenient programs let me post a few in fact.
1. The federal government is spending 25 billion dollars a year maintaining federal buildings that are either unused, or totally vacent.

2. One professor is Stanford University was sent 239,100 dollars to study how Americans find love.

3. The US spent 2.6 million dollars to train Chinese Prostitutes to drink responsibly.

4. The department of Health and Human Services plans on spending 500 million dollars on a program that will, among others things, seek to solve the problem of why 5-6 year old children "can't sit still" in a kindergarten classroom.

5. The US government spent 175,587 dollars, "to determine if cocaine makes Japanese quail engage in sexually risky behavior.


There are so many more stupid thing the government funds that they can just cut, but they are too stupid to realize that there is this much, and so many more programs that lead to trivial answers that nobody cares about.

So cutting Head Start by 90% was a good thing? It worries me if you think funding for a program that helps struggling youth in school being cut made sense.

Yes, because goal never justifies the means and the means for Head Start are taxpayers money. Taxpayers didn't want their money forcefully taken away and spent on Head Start.

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 05, 2013, 05:07:14 PM

So cutting Head Start by 90% was a good thing? It worries me if you think funding for a program that helps struggling youth in school being cut made sense.

Yes, because goal never justifies the means and the means for Head Start are taxpayers money. Taxpayers didn't want their money forcefully taken away and spent on Head Start.

Thank you.  +1

Being Irish, I can tell you that your American .politics. are not nearly as bad as ours were under the Crown

Quote from: Mikefrompluto on May 05, 2013, 05:07:14 PM

So cutting Head Start by 90% was a good thing? It worries me if you think funding for a program that helps struggling youth in school being cut made sense.

Yes, because goal never justifies the means and the means for Head Start are taxpayers money. Taxpayers didn't want their money forcefully taken away and spent on Head Start.

Under iMtG law, you are correct. But that's not how America operates. If your taxes are going to be forcibly taken away, whether you're okay with that or not, wouldnt you rather then go towards a greater good such as education or research for a virus that's wiping people out?