Gain control

Started by Juggalonoke, July 08, 2012, 04:47:32 PM

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Juggalonoke

If I gain control of of my opponents creature for good do I gain control of any enchantments on the creature as well or no?

Maximo

They're attached to the creature and give it their effects, but you don't control them. Like if someone had {lifelink} on their creature you stole, you would gain life when they dealt damage. But if they had {Armadillo Cloak} or something, your opponent would still gain life. I think.

ChrisRodriguez

The auras yes because there attached to the creature making those creatures have those effects. Equipment on the other hand those will just fall off the creature.

Maximo

No, you take equipment too. But the equipments owner can reattach it to another creature they control for the equip cost.

BlackJester

Maximo, correct on both counts.

Kuberr

Quote from: Maximo on July 08, 2012, 05:23:22 PM
No, you take equipment too. But the equipments owner can reattach it to another creature they control for the equip cost.

Could you "attach" it using its attach option instead of equipping it to another creature, in response?

Willthomjr

Quote from: Kuberr on July 08, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Maximo on July 08, 2012, 05:23:22 PM
No, you take equipment too. But the equipments owner can reattach it to another creature they control for the equip cost.

Could you "attach" it using its attach option instead of equipping it to another creature, in response?

Yes, attach is at instant speed.

Kuberr

Quote from: Willthomjr on July 08, 2012, 05:49:51 PM
Quote from: Kuberr on July 08, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
Quote from: Maximo on July 08, 2012, 05:23:22 PM
No, you take equipment too. But the equipments owner can reattach it to another creature they control for the equip cost.

Could you "attach" it using its attach option instead of equipping it to another creature, in response?

Yes, attach is at instant speed.

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Juggalonoke

If that's the case can I use the equip costs on equipments I've gained control of it that way?

Deathstorm

No you are not the owner of the equipment only the owner can equiP and reequip

Maximo

If you use something like {Volition Reins} to steal equipment you can equip it at will, if that's what you mean.

Deathstorm

Yes the reins are good for stealing planeswalkers I wouldn't waste it on most equipment except a sword though

Hakuu

I thought plans walkers didn't tap.

BlackJester

Quote from: Hakuu on July 09, 2012, 10:36:19 AM
I thought plans walkers didn't tap.
They don't in order to use their abilities.  It doesn't matter though.

Ghebert

Quote from: Hakuu on July 09, 2012, 10:36:19 AM
I thought plans walkers didn't tap.

The abilities on the card {Volition Reins} are separate.
1st. You enchant the creature.
2nd. If it is tapped, untap it.
3rd. You gain control of it.