Trading for cards worth?

Started by Eneishi, May 19, 2012, 07:41:48 PM

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Eneishi

Back in '96 if you needed a card and I had it, but didn't use it. And you had a card that I wanted but didn't need it. As long as the rarity was similar, that was our trade. These days people go look up prices and trade for how much cash a card is worth.

My Question is why do people do this now a days? It never used to be like this, but now I see it's become a disease amongst the "standard" players.

Willthomjr

Because too many a holes ripped people off with 1:1 trades. When you know value, it's easier to make trades fair.

Personally, I will throw in things to make trades fair. I hate ripping people off; it makes me feel horrible.

Eneishi

But how would you rip someone off if you trade a card you don't need for a card you do?

Rass

There were not as many people who played then.

Cards still had different values then it was more dictated by your local community

There is too much money involved by people who don't care for the game

Willthomjr

Quote from: Eneishi on May 19, 2012, 08:01:10 PM
But how would you rip someone off if you trade a card you don't need for a card you do?

Technology. I trade cards I dont need all the time, but I make sure the value is
Equal.

Too many cards that are really valuable vs cards you "need"

Harmon74

Back when I 1st started playing mtg, I bought a pack of legends.  I got a {carrion ant}.  I had no idea of its worth at the time.  A dude asked me if I would trade it. I think I traded it for something that wasn't even worth a 1/4 of it.  He knew it, and didn't blink an eye as he ripped me off.  Trading for the value of a card is a fair way to trade, and this app helps a lot.

Eneishi

My point being that it's only you that really think you got ripped off.

If I didn't need the card, and would never play it. I didn't consider myself getting ripped off. It had no value to me because I would never use it.


Rass

I agree with you there but there are only a limited few cards I think I will never use

I have deck lists in my head that I'm planning to start in the hundreds. It's the follow thru that hurts me.

Harmon74

Quote from: Eneishi on May 19, 2012, 08:25:27 PM
My point being that it's only you that really think you got ripped off.

If I didn't need the card, and would never play it. I didn't consider myself getting ripped off. It had no value to me because I would never use it.
I understand what you are saying.  At the time I didn't even understand how usefull, or valuable the card was. 

Eneishi

Why should it matter what's its worth?

Why can't it just be what you need and don't need?

Clearmario

It's all about supply and demand, some cards are more in demand with not a lot of supply so people are willing to offer more for that card

Willthomjr

Quote from: Eneishi on May 19, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
Why should it matter what's its worth?

Why can't it just be what you need and don't need?

When you mix formats (standard limited etc) its hard to justify {entomb} trade for a {birds of paradise} when one might be what you need vs getting ripped.


Eneishi

Quote from: Willthomjr on May 19, 2012, 09:03:33 PM
Quote from: Eneishi on May 19, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
Why should it matter what's its worth?

Why can't it just be what you need and don't need?

When you mix formats (standard limited etc) its hard to justify {entomb} trade for a {birds of paradise} when one might be what you need vs getting ripped.

You're just not getting my point.

Maybe if you played back then you would understand.

Gorzo

You also have to realize that everyone is different, and no one is trading for the exact same reason as you are. This is just part of human nature, and every single language has an expression for this- in English, it is "to each his own."

If you don't mind trading where you are getting a far less "value" out of the trade and it's okay with you, by all means do what makes you happy. But you should be aware of value and not propose a trade of unbalanced value for the other person unless you KNOW that trader is okay with that kind of deal. They have every right to be mad, because to many people that kind of deal is unfair and you need to respect your fellow player and consider their opinions and preferences when trading.

#noided

Money talks. Welcome to the real world.