Can we start being more strict on casual versus competitive?

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

I think you are missing the point Taysby. People (usually new members) post decks asking for improvements in modern and legacy sections and for numerous reasons they dont look great. 9 times out of 10 the first response they get goes something like 'this shouldnt be here it should be in casual' or 'this deck is bad, card x is bad and card y is bad'

All this does is either confuse the person, because they think 'what did i do wrong? It said i can post modern legal decks here' or it pisses them off and they start to push back and it inevitably leads to people thinking they dont wanna accept help, when they are just defending themselves from a bully  (from their perspective). Either way they are less likely to return.

I'm ok with that. As long as they are trying to improve is all I care about

I'm not trying to say they have to play checks over painlands or similar discussions that have no correct answer. But not playing hallowed fountain over azorious guildgate crosses the line to casual.

I'm not trying to say those decks should be moved to a different section. I'm just saying it's not a competitive deck.

Im not arguing with your point, it is a valid one. Im just saying it is irrelevant to this discussion.

[DirtyMustachio]

I do believe that's still the same as splitting hairs over

Less competitive or more competitive

Guildgates are less competitive than shocks

But the deck is still for competition

[griffin131]

I think you are missing the point Taysby. People (usually new members) post decks asking for improvements in modern and legacy sections and for numerous reasons they dont look great. 9 times out of 10 the first response they get goes something like 'this shouldnt be here it should be in casual' or 'this deck is bad, card x is bad and card y is bad'

All this does is either confuse the person, because they think 'what did i do wrong? It said i can post modern legal decks here' or it pisses them off and they start to push back and it inevitably leads to people thinking they dont wanna accept help, when they are just defending themselves from a bully  (from their perspective). Either way they are less likely to return.

I'm ok with that. As long as they are trying to improve is all I care about

I'm not trying to say they have to play checks over painlands or similar discussions that have no correct answer. But not playing hallowed fountain over azorious guildgate crosses the line to casual.

I'm not trying to say those decks should be moved to a different section. I'm just saying it's not a competitive deck.

But who cares?  That's not what the thread is about. The thread is about moving those decks.

[Rass]

But noncompetitive decks hurt people's eyes.

[griffin131]

You only need to define it if you think they should be moved.

There's literally no argument for moving decks from one format forum to another unless the deck was posted under the wrong format.

A deck designed for Modern doesn't want recommendations based on the Casual ban list, regardless of how competitive you deem it to be.

[Indianslayer]

I think we all know what is and isn't competitive in a format, or have a good idea. If it doesn't seem to be competitive at all, then give the person some information on why it isn't. If they decline your helpful advice, have it get moved to casual. Obviously people on budgets should be able to post budget decks in the format, and if they say it's budget, it may not be competitive for top lists, but it may be with their play group. So having their list in the format it is in is helpful for them. Just remember, this is a community and there are a lot of new people joining in, they may not know what they are doing.
Ultimately, some list do deserve to be moved, but only if there is a good reason for it to be moved, not just because it isn't competitive you your eyes.

[Rass]

Quick question. Where does it say in any of the sections (modern standard legacy ) only post competitive decks? 

[griffin131]

Quick question. Where does it say in any of the sections (modern standard legacy ) only post competitive decks?

It doesn't.

I think some people are confused by the Casual format and see that forum and assume that anything outside of Casual is competitive.

[MuggyWuggy]

Guys we need a tiny leaders forum also

[Rass]

A cube was asked for first.

[MuggyWuggy]

Is this competitive or casual cube?

[Rass]

Yes