Days undoing

Started by Oldschoolmtgnoob, September 21, 2015, 07:15:47 PM

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Oldschoolmtgnoob

{Days Undoing}. Does anyone use this card? Any good synergies or combos? The only thing I can think is that {B} card that deals 1 damage when an opponent draws a card. Maybe a good preventive measure of someone is forcing you to attack or something rare like that...Anything else?

adventus


Oldschoolmtgnoob

Quote from: adventus on September 21, 2015, 07:22:03 PM
{notion thief}

So you would draw 14 cards?? I guess you immediately discard to seven, but still, that's a really great one!!! Thank you.

Mr_Fahrenheit


Oldschoolmtgnoob

Quote from: Mr_Fahrenheit on September 21, 2015, 08:35:31 PM
{Sphinx's tutelage}

Whoa...so how does this work? My oppenent would run that cycle for each of the seven cards I draw? If so, then how does that effect his draw? Does he get his seven first then discard cycle through each of mine, or....hmmm

Codester1991

The rules for days undoing and Sphinx tutelage were specifically changed. There are no tutelage triggers because the draws are supposed to happen simultaneously and then the turn ends with nothing on the stack. I forgot which exact rule it was but I'm sure a judge or rules expert can get behind this. The combo would've been overpowered for standard.

Remillo

Quote from: Codester1991 on September 21, 2015, 10:16:32 PM
The rules for days undoing and Sphinx tutelage were specifically changed. There are no tutelage triggers because the draws are supposed to happen simultaneously and then the turn ends with nothing on the stack. I forgot which exact rule it was but I'm sure a judge or rules expert can get behind this. The combo would've been overpowered for standard.

I mean, that's what would have happened anyways.  When you 'end the turn', you exile ALL objects on the stack.  Let's say you resolve a Day's Undoing:
Both you and your opponent shuffle your hands and graveyards into the respective libraries.
Both players draw 7 cards, put 7 Sphinx's Tutelage triggers on the stack.
You End the Turn, exiling Day's Undoing and the 7 Tutelage triggers.

You move to Clean-Up step.

Kaylesh

However: flash one in ({quicken} / {vedalken orrery}), with {notion thief} & {sphinx's tutelage} on the field, you'll draw 14 (assuming 1v1), 14 tutelage triggers hit the stack, your opponent is gonna mill at least 28, likely more. You did however just give him his deck back before milling...
Needs some gy hate just before you hit him.

Brawler_1337

People were trying to use this in aggressive Modern decks that don't care about your opponent having a fresh seven and using them first. Not sure how that's working on the higher level tournament circuit, but I was on the receiving end of one once, and he drew me into lethal.