Lands in front of spells

[mickeven]

I typically play lands in front and I keep my dorks with my creatures.
Played a guy last night who was returning to magic and said "Wow, I didn't know anyone still played like that."

He got confused at one point when I mentioned an Exalted trigger because he didn't notice my {Noble Heirarch} somehow. I immediately apologized and switched to lands in back to make things easier on him - he's already stressed returning after a few years, no reason for my play style to add to it.

good on you homie. i think thats what it should be about. camaraderie first, unless you a playing competitive of course.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

All of what has been said makes sense, and it really doesnt bother me in terms of gameplay. It only bothers me in terms of logic because it makes no sense to put your least interactive permanents closest to your opponents and your most interactive permanents farthest from the permanents they will actually be interacting with. I think it is counterintuitive and a greater chance of stuffing up (from both sides of the table) and creating feel bad moments. Thats in addition to having it so much harder for spectators.

TL DR - play with you lands in front if you want, i wont complain, i just think it makes you look like an idiot

[griffin131]

I typically play lands in front and I keep my dorks with my creatures.
Played a guy last night who was returning to magic and said "Wow, I didn't know anyone still played like that."

He got confused at one point when I mentioned an Exalted trigger because he didn't notice my {Noble Heirarch} somehow. I immediately apologized and switched to lands in back to make things easier on him - he's already stressed returning after a few years, no reason for my play style to add to it.

good on you homie. i think thats what it should be about. camaraderie first, unless you a playing competitive of course.

Even at higher than FNM I'd like to know it was me that won, not that the way I organize my permanents won.

[MuggyWuggy]

Seeing how pros have played this way for years and it was mainly confusion for the audience....pay attention to board state

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Seeing how pros have played this way for years and it was mainly confusion for the audience....pay attention to board state

I can't find the cartoon online, but there's a hilarious one of Adrian Sullivan (notorious for playing everything upside down facing opponent and lands in front) playing mtgo with his laptop upside down.

[sithantic]

My biggest thing is that if it's not in front of the lands, I have a difficult time reading the card. I don't memorize every card and it's abilities. And I find that those people get more peeved at me for asking "Can I see the card?" I have also seen players cheat by putting their hands over the cards to, not fully cover them up, but obfuscate them.

[griffin131]

If your opponent leaves the creatures in the same place but puts the lands behind them, you'll have the same issue.

So your issue is that cards not at the edge of the playmat are hard to read, not that lands in front makes creatures hard to read.

[LinkCelestrial]

If your opponent leaves the creatures in the same place but puts the lands behind them, you'll have the same issue.

So your issue is that cards not at the edge of the playmat are hard to read, not that lands in front makes creatures hard to read.

We don't need to read lands, generally. Standard doesn't care till man land re-release, and even then most opponents are nice enough to separate them.

[MuggyWuggy]

So how do you feel about people who use foreign cards?

[LinkCelestrial]

For me it's not usually a big deal as I memorize cards pretty easily. But yes, it does bug me, especially at lower levels of play as people are less experienced with cards so it's confusing.

Honestly I'm not one for "swagging out" decks anyways.

[Mr_Fahrenheit]

Foreign cards are perfectly fine by me. I just feel that if you are going to play foreign cards, be prepared to be constantly asked what they do. Its a little rough on new players, as this opens the door for cheaters to lie about what a card is and take advantage of the situation, but unfortunately that cannot be helped. And in my experience most people arent cheaters, and the ones who are a bit shady are known for it at their lgs and there is usually at least one other person close enough to notice if any new players are being taken advantage of. We all gotta take care of each other like that. We were all new once.

[griffin131]

If your opponent leaves the creatures in the same place but puts the lands behind them, you'll have the same issue.

So your issue is that cards not at the edge of the playmat are hard to read, not that lands in front makes creatures hard to read.

We don't need to read lands, generally. Standard doesn't care till man land re-release, and even then most opponents are nice enough to separate them.

So you missed my point?

People are saying that they have a problem reading cards if arranged like this:
Lands
Dudes
Empty space

If you arrange it:
Empty space
Dudes
Lands

There's the same amount of distance between your opponent and the dudes. But somehow only the first one gets complaints.

[Mattao19]

This argument got weird lol but this is how most (if not all) of the lands first PPP play

Say my opponent is here.
Opponents crappy cards

Lands
Nonland perms
Empty space (usually where I put my facedown hand)
End of table
Me.

Play mats are big and you can have 3-4 rows of cards on you mat so this layout is perfectly fine.

[Double-O-Scotch]

This argument got weird lol but this is how most (if not all) of the lands first PPP play

Say my opponent is here.
Opponents crappy cards

Lands
Nonland perms
Empty space (usually where I put my facedown hand)
End of table
Me.

Play mats are big and you can have 3-4 rows of cards on you mat so this layout is perfectly fine.

So sayeth you...

[Indianslayer]

I wonder if anyone plays lands on the right side of a playmat and creatures on the left