Lands in front of spells

Started by Mattao19, August 29, 2015, 02:29:43 PM

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MuggyWuggy

Lands shouldn't matter where they are

People need to just take time and Analyze...


And people who play magic need to remove the stick from each other's asses simultaneously, that way we all become less butthurt all at the same time


Tis a salty game

Rass

But muggs its your fault I didn't notice your 1/1 death touch. And I'm walking over with the win creature. Wtf. I have to actually pay attention.

Mattao19

I don't agree with muggy on the you have to analyze but that being said its not like we play on small tables with mini cards. A standard playmat is pretty big and easily displays all of our permanents

Mattao19

That's an extreme scenario but still if there was that many creatures then I'd actually side with Muggy bc you do have to be aware of all the creatures. But again that's an extreme example

MuggyWuggy

But then what about a dryad arbor? Would you place that with creatures or land

Mattao19

Nobody knows what to do with dryad arbor lol that's one of the reasons ppl don't play it lol

Kaylesh

Quote from: Mattao19 on September 03, 2015, 10:52:21 PM
Nobody knows what to do with dryad arbor lol that's one of the reasons ppl don't play it lol
I'd likely put it with my utility creatures. Between combat creatures & lands, with enchantments/artifacts to the right of that.
I like my little three-zone system, though it creates a little tell of which creatures are too valuable to lose...

MuggyWuggy

See I like creating false tells, or as my friend says, I Jedi mind trick opponents ;)

Kaylesh

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 04, 2015, 01:44:31 AM
See I like creating false tells, or as my friend says, I Jedi mind trick opponents ;)
I could see myself do that.. Put a {typhoid rat} with the utility creatures. Then again, I like fair, open and fun play, which makes me a lousy competitive player for that matter. But, next prerelease it could be I'll use it..

MuggyWuggy

"This is the spell you want to counter" *gets countered*

*Play Jace the mind sculptor after*

Nfidel2k

I remember playing back in revised and fourth edition and was taught to play lands up front.  All my local groups played that way.  It wasn't a written rulebook rule, it was just to make it easier to keep track of mana - mana burn was a part of the game back then.  I got out of magic for several years, so I'm not exactly sure about the timeline of the rules changes but it sounds like lands being played behind creatures came out after mana burn was removed from the rules, which makes sense.  But I could be wrong about the order.  I personally don't care either way; mostly because cheaters will always try to find ways to cheat.  It's my job to pay attention.

Double-O-Scotch

Quote from: Nfidel2k on September 04, 2015, 11:15:09 AM
I remember playing back in revised and fourth edition and was taught to play lands up front.  All my local groups played that way.  It wasn't a written rulebook rule, it was just to make it easier to keep track of mana - mana burn was a part of the game back then.  I got out of magic for several years, so I'm not exactly sure about the timeline of the rules changes but it sounds like lands being played behind creatures came out after mana burn was removed from the rules, which makes sense.  But I could be wrong about the order.  I personally don't care either way; mostly because cheaters will always try to find ways to cheat.  It's my job to pay attention.

I started playing in Ice Age/ 4th edition and everyone played lands in the back. This lands up front thing I've never seen until recently.

Kaylesh

Quote from: Noblellama on September 04, 2015, 01:41:43 PM
Quote from: Double-O-Scotch on September 04, 2015, 01:06:48 PM
Quote from: Nfidel2k on September 04, 2015, 11:15:09 AM
I remember playing back in revised and fourth edition and was taught to play lands up front.  All my local groups played that way.  It wasn't a written rulebook rule, it was just to make it easier to keep track of mana - mana burn was a part of the game back then.  I got out of magic for several years, so I'm not exactly sure about the timeline of the rules changes but it sounds like lands being played behind creatures came out after mana burn was removed from the rules, which makes sense.  But I could be wrong about the order.  I personally don't care either way; mostly because cheaters will always try to find ways to cheat.  It's my job to pay attention.

I started playing in Ice Age/ 4th edition and everyone played lands in the back. This lands up front thing I've never seen until recently.

Same, only recently started among a few players locally and 2 of the 5 were people that already had bad reputations...
That could be because of the recent discussion following the "template" laid out by Wizards for feature matches. As happens on this thread, people mention the playing field can be schewed easier. Thus shady ppl will switch for their own purposes.

InfinitiveDivinity

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on September 03, 2015, 09:57:18 PM
But then what about a dryad arbor? Would you place that with creatures or land
I'd put it with my dorks, by my lands. I play Modern Elves a lot, and honestly if I drop a dork I put it near my lands to easily count my mana, but I bring it back up when swinging. I honestly don't care where your permanents are, like Muggy said, pay attention.

griffin131

I typically play lands in front and I keep my dorks with my creatures.
Played a guy last night who was returning to magic and said "Wow, I didn't know anyone still played like that."

He got confused at one point when I mentioned an Exalted trigger because he didn't notice my {Noble Heirarch} somehow. I immediately apologized and switched to lands in back to make things easier on him - he's already stressed returning after a few years, no reason for my play style to add to it.