Lands in front of spells

Started by Mattao19, August 29, 2015, 02:29:43 PM

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particle

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on August 30, 2015, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: particle on August 30, 2015, 09:17:02 AM
Quote from: Taysby on August 29, 2015, 09:19:23 PM
In the legacy lands deck, lands in front is recommended. All other decks it boils down to don't be a dick, have a comman, easy to understand layout.
Muggy, it'd be fine to stick a caryatid next to some lands temporarily to bluff, but put it back eventually.

Does the lands deck ever have nonland permanents other than Marit lage?

Down with lands in fronters! They do the devil's work!
Exploration, mox diamond, and sometimes manabond

But diamond is normally with lands, right? I forgot {exploration}.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: MuggyWuggy on August 30, 2015, 01:22:00 AM
Main thing I disagree with layering csrds almost on top of each other  to hide info. Had someone do that at a gpt once - board showed 2 open lands, go to cast PW

Guy taps land under temple of deceit, (basically revealing it as i cast my pw)

Very shady move doing stuff like that

That's completely illegal. You have to be able to see your opponents cards at all times.

MuggyWuggy

Yeah and unfortunately the judge wasn't there to observe as he claimed it was showing...

Indianslayer

And in the end, we all have grew to understand why people play lands the way they do. And I think we could all agree on an outline for setting up board states would be beneficial for the overall gameplay of magic. Also, I do have glasses... I normally play on big tables....  *one tear emoji*

Splicer

Quote from: Indianslayer on August 30, 2015, 05:40:54 PM
And in the end, we all have grew to understand why people play lands the way they do. And I think we could all agree on an outline for setting up board states would be beneficial for the overall gameplay of magic. Also, I do have glasses... I normally play on big tables....  😢

MacheteMable

Lands in front just makes it too easy for shady things to happen. Whether on purpose or not. You could be the honest Abe of magic but that doesn't mean everyone else would be. That's the issue. It makes it too easy to hide things from your opponent.


At least none of you do the Adrian Sullivan lands in front and everything upside down. I'd probably drop kick you if you did.

Mattao19

How on earth does lands in front make it more shady? Wouldn't lands back be more shady? Bc you can quickly untap a land/play an extra one.

MuggyWuggy

Much easier to play an extra land when mana base in near you. "Did I play a land yet?"

mickeven

I think he means shady as in a Forest or a Mountain casting a shade on the rest of the cards since they are in front of them. I guess Plains are fine to be in front!

MuggyWuggy

Quote from: mickeven on August 31, 2015, 03:42:49 PM
I think he means shady as in a Forest or a Mountain casting a shade on the rest of the cards since they are in front of them. I guess Plains are fine to be in front!

Would swamps be considered shady then?

mickeven

oh they are shadiest. so dark and murky. plus shades love them

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Mattao19 on August 31, 2015, 02:47:46 PM
How on earth does lands in front make it more shady? Wouldn't lands back be more shady? Bc you can quickly untap a land/play an extra one.

Hmm, untapping my lands and getting more out or, you know, not letting my opponent see my boards state, cheating in and untapping creatures?


Mattao19

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on September 01, 2015, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: Mattao19 on August 31, 2015, 02:47:46 PM
How on earth does lands in front make it more shady? Wouldn't lands back be more shady? Bc you can quickly untap a land/play an extra one.

Hmm, untapping my lands and getting more out or, you know, not letting my opponent see my boards state, cheating in and untapping creatures?

Except the same exact thing can be said for Lands back ppl. Just replace creatures with lands in your argument. In fact, what is more easy to spot, a cheated in creature or an extra land? So wouldnt it be easier to cheat with lands back?

Remillo

I occasionally play with lands in front as a joke if I'm playing Control, or a deck without too many permanents, or just at the start of a game before things actually hit the board.  I've never had a problem with people playing them in front, and I know several high-level players who do so!

Ekann1

Quote from: Remillo on September 01, 2015, 06:50:51 PM
I occasionally play with lands in front as a joke if I'm playing Control, or a deck without too many permanents, or just at the start of a game before things actually hit the board.  I've never had a problem with people playing them in front, and I know several high-level players who do so!
Yeah, I like to make a "land wall" to keep my opponents creatures from reaching me in my control deck! That's the only time I do it though, creatures in from otherwise.