Does is bother anyone else....

Started by LadyGrixis, May 07, 2015, 11:36:53 AM

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LadyGrixis

....when you lose to someone who thinks they're an amazing player, but really they misplay every other turn and have a nasty attitude?

This happened to me last night.

I haven't played Standard much this rotation, mostly because I don't really like Standard anymore; however, last night I borrowed a Mardu Dragon Control deck (IT WAS FUN!) and Drew with my first two opponents.

My third opponent crushed me, which was fine because he did everything right and the cards just weren't on my side.

My fourth opponent, however, was wretched. His attitude was sour from the get-go and he was playing a rather awful version of Blue/White Control. He made terrible misplays, like tapping out to cast {Icefall Regent} while I had plenty of mana open to kill it with a {Draconic Roar}.....and dude thought his plays were masterful. We both won a match, then I got flooded and lost. Nevertheless, he was way obnoxious about his victory, and it was very difficult for me not to point out all of his mistakes and ask that he find a little humility in his lifetime. Ugh......

Any similar stories you guys would like to share?

Falcon182

I've been working on improving my attitude when I lose. :-)

cltrn81

I think I am a decent player and I lose humbly......at least I hope I come across that way.  The last competitive tourney I did was a tiny leaders event at my LGS and there was this guy there.  Young, and by young I mean early to mid twenties, and he is just kind of an ass to people.  He is this sawed off little douche looking guy and not to brag about myself but I am 6' and fit as hell at 180lbs.  I was in the Army for 9 years and I study 2 different forms of jiu-jitsu.  I only say all of that because the guy thinks he can bully people and he even tried to do it to me at that event.  I just shrugged it off and "killed him with kindness" cuz I am that type of person.  Inside I wanted to beat the hell out of the guy and show him what happens in the real world when you think you are tough and you really are not.

He just continued my bad impression of him by losing so terribly to this guy who was running a very solid deck.  He just brow beat this kid for winning and then he complainer just dropped from the event and left.  He lost in a way that made it out like he should not be losing to this guy and blah blah blah.  The winner even said man I felt bad for winning cuz of what he was saying and how he was reacting.  I really wanted to beat this guy's ass more for this than when he tried to push me around.  Point of the story is never assume you are this tough guy or this super magic player that should not lose or whatever else.  The fact is that on a given day you may in fact be that best person but most days there will always be someone "better" for a lack of a better term.  Just be humble and take the good with the bad.  The good would not feel good if you did not experience bad........and if you chose to experience your "bad" in a piss poor way then shame on you when you get to enjoy your "good".

Hope that rant makes sense.

LinkCelestrial

This was on Untap.In but I think it still counts.

I had just gotten into Modern and was using my Affinity Blade list. There was a King of the Hill tournament, best out of one, winner stays next challenger goes. There was a guy that was on a win streak and I rolled up with Affinity Blade. I wish I could remember what deck he was playing, but I won pretty quickly. Then he goes off about how "Affinity isn't a fair deck." "I would have won post board." Blah blah blah. I didn't engage. I was too busy playing against Esper Mill (I won). Then we decided to have a Modern tournament. I decided why not? Tweaked my list a little and went for it. I did extremely will, beating Delver when TC was a thing and some other stuff. I get to the finals and lo and behold, the guy that I beat in King of the Hill. Running /Jeskai Ascendancy Combo/. Game one I got hosed. Game two I {Thoughtsieze}d his {Birds of Paradise} when he only had one land but he won anyways. Dude complains about unfair decks then runs {Jeskai Ascendancy} combo. It gets better. After all this we played a draft (a couple days latter) naturally I got paired up against him. I had a very synergetic B/G dredge deck. He was playing U/B good stuff. Game one I ground out a win. Game two I'm losing and he's being cocky. He passes turn with me not having much life left. He goes so far as to say "I've got you on lockdown." I topdeck {Sword of Light and Shadow}, say "I wouldn't be so sure." And wreck him over the next two turns for the win. He was just a cocky prick.

When I play magic I try to have fun. If I'm frustrated it's because my deck isn't running right or I feel like I have a matchup where I can't do anything. Otherwise I'm generally making puns, bluffing something, and having a good time. In a real tournament I've never played against any cocky people or sore losers (though anybody will be disappointed when they kill you next turn and you attack with everything then win with a {Jeskai Charm}). I just have a good time. If you steamroll me I offer to play an extra game or two as we wait for everyone else. If you steamroll me the same thing happens. I shake hands and say good game.

Dsx Cherno

When I'm losing, I'm more beating myself up. Either I shuffled bad, or I made bad plays, and they came back to haunt me. When I'm winning, I try to be humble. I never get so cocky that I tell people "I have you locked down". I never tip my hand till after I finish the kill. I'll get super confident, but I know how easy it is to go from rockin shop to totally screwed with a single card.

LadyGrixis

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 07, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
This was on Untap.In but I think it still counts.

I had just gotten into Modern and was using my Affinity Blade list. There was a King of the Hill tournament, best out of one, winner stays next challenger goes. There was a guy that was on a win streak and I rolled up with Affinity Blade. I wish I could remember what deck he was playing, but I won pretty quickly. Then he goes off about how "Affinity isn't a fair deck." "I would have won post board." Blah blah blah. I didn't engage. I was too busy playing against Esper Mill (I won). Then we decided to have a Modern tournament. I decided why not? Tweaked my list a little and went for it. I did extremely will, beating Delver when TC was a thing and some other stuff. I get to the finals and lo and behold, the guy that I beat in King of the Hill. Running /Jeskai Ascendancy Combo/. Game one I got hosed. Game two I {Thoughtsieze}d his {Birds of Paradise} when he only had one land but he won anyways. Dude complains about unfair decks then runs {Jeskai Ascendancy} combo. It gets better. After all this we played a draft (a couple days latter) naturally I got paired up against him. I had a very synergetic B/G dredge deck. He was playing U/B good stuff. Game one I ground out a win. Game two I'm losing and he's being cocky. He passes turn with me not having much life left. He goes so far as to say "I've got you on lockdown." I topdeck {Sword of Light and Shadow}, say "I wouldn't be so sure." And wreck him over the next two turns for the win. He was just a cocky prick.

When I play magic I try to have fun. If I'm frustrated it's because my deck isn't running right or I feel like I have a matchup where I can't do anything. Otherwise I'm generally making puns, bluffing something, and having a good time. In a real tournament I've never played against any cocky people or sore losers (though anybody will be disappointed when they kill you next turn and you attack with everything then win with a {Jeskai Charm}). I just have a good time. If you steamroll me I offer to play an extra game or two as we wait for everyone else. If you steamroll me the same thing happens. I shake hands and say good game.

This. All of this. I love playing against people who will joke with me; I even like playing against serious people. I just despise asshats....one guy even told me one time after I beat him (and it was a grindy match, so we both stood a chance of winning): "I guess it's okay that I lost in Magic since I'm winning so hard at life."

.......I was literally speechless.......then I started laughing because it was hilarious. This dude was serious. Like dead serious.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: LadyGrixis on May 07, 2015, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 07, 2015, 03:13:21 PM
This was on Untap.In but I think it still counts.

I had just gotten into Modern and was using my Affinity Blade list. There was a King of the Hill tournament, best out of one, winner stays next challenger goes. There was a guy that was on a win streak and I rolled up with Affinity Blade. I wish I could remember what deck he was playing, but I won pretty quickly. Then he goes off about how "Affinity isn't a fair deck." "I would have won post board." Blah blah blah. I didn't engage. I was too busy playing against Esper Mill (I won). Then we decided to have a Modern tournament. I decided why not? Tweaked my list a little and went for it. I did extremely will, beating Delver when TC was a thing and some other stuff. I get to the finals and lo and behold, the guy that I beat in King of the Hill. Running /Jeskai Ascendancy Combo/. Game one I got hosed. Game two I {Thoughtsieze}d his {Birds of Paradise} when he only had one land but he won anyways. Dude complains about unfair decks then runs {Jeskai Ascendancy} combo. It gets better. After all this we played a draft (a couple days latter) naturally I got paired up against him. I had a very synergetic B/G dredge deck. He was playing U/B good stuff. Game one I ground out a win. Game two I'm losing and he's being cocky. He passes turn with me not having much life left. He goes so far as to say "I've got you on lockdown." I topdeck {Sword of Light and Shadow}, say "I wouldn't be so sure." And wreck him over the next two turns for the win. He was just a cocky prick.

When I play magic I try to have fun. If I'm frustrated it's because my deck isn't running right or I feel like I have a matchup where I can't do anything. Otherwise I'm generally making puns, bluffing something, and having a good time. In a real tournament I've never played against any cocky people or sore losers (though anybody will be disappointed when they kill you next turn and you attack with everything then win with a {Jeskai Charm}). I just have a good time. If you steamroll me I offer to play an extra game or two as we wait for everyone else. If you steamroll me the same thing happens. I shake hands and say good game.

This. All of this. I love playing against people who will joke with me; I even like playing against serious people. I just despise asshats....one guy even told me one time after I beat him (and it was a grindy match, so we both stood a chance of winning): "I guess it's okay that I lost in Magic since I'm winning so hard at life."

.......I was literally speechless.......then I started laughing because it was hilarious. This dude was serious. Like dead serious.

The thing that really made me laugh at that was that if somebody said it to me, it'd be true. xD

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Noblellama on May 07, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
Had a guy I played at draft that we were having so much fun with our nearly identical rakdos aggro draft decks that when we finished all three rounds (in 16 minutes) and had plenty of time before the next round so we busted out our constructed aggro decks and played 11 more games before time. I swear we had more fun tearing each other up by turn 4 than anyone else there. SO many T4-T5 kills. We were both laughing to hard.

That's what I call a good time.

I remember this one time, I was playing copy burn. {Mirari}, {Explosive Impact}, {Chandra, the Firebrand}, {Guttersnipe}. I think my record was 40 damage in one turn.

Anyways, my mother, uncle, cousin and I are playing. Free for all, casual. My mom's using Azorius humans, uncle's rocking I can't remember what and cousin is using {R}/{U} burn. The game progresses, and I start building up to an explosive kill. My mother has been joking about me making her a drink then starts eyeballing my creatures and life total.

"Don't attack me I'll kill you." I say. She doesn't believe me. She attacks, I unload my hand into a fatal stream of fire, stand up and loudly say,

"Now go make me a drink!" 

She didn't.

I think that was also the game where my cousin stood up, pointed at a {Guttersnipe} and said "It's tapped! Throw the kitchen sink at it!"

Mr_Fahrenheit

I can remember a time that a group of us were having so much fun clowning around we all just dropped from fnm so we could start playing a board game. It was awesome.

That being said i come from a poker background so im well practised at both taking a bad beat and playing against dickheads. Its so easy to just take it all in stride and my friends are slowly starting to catch up.

Munchlax

So we don't necessarily have the dirtbag but we have a guy who I think has won a grand total of 2 EDH tourneys. Every time he wins a game he goes back to talking about how it was as good as this win or the last time he played that deck was a year ago or some trash like that.

But the worst part is yet to come.

If he loses he will fricken just follow you around the store explaining how he could have won and if you hadn't had y card and he had x card he would have won.

He hypes about his deck which is just a garbage EDH token deck that he hasn't edited in the past 2 years and complains at people when they offer suggestions. I just don't even know what to do at this point

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Munchlax on May 09, 2015, 12:36:02 AM
So we don't necessarily have the dirtbag but we have a guy who I think has won a grand total of 2 EDH tourneys. Every time he wins a game he goes back to talking about how it was as good as this win or the last time he played that deck was a year ago or some trash like that.

But the worst part is yet to come.

If he loses he will fricken just follow you around the store explaining how he could have won and if you hadn't had y card and he had x card he would have won.

He hypes about his deck which is just a garbage EDH token deck that he hasn't edited in the past 2 years and complains at people when they offer suggestions. I just don't even know what to do at this point

Tell him you beat him how it was played and ifs don't mean anything. Counter his ifs with ifs to shows how pointless it is. He needs to get over himself.

Kaylesh

Personally I have had a few ifs I actually liked.
Most recent was me and the wife playing Kiora vs Elspeth. I had gotten the creature out that would let me remove blocked creatures from combat, so I was wailing away with my army of soldiers, untapping those she blocked (was Elspeth). She managed to get big enough creatures out to swing lethal, but couldn't because I could chump and then swing for lethal. Bottom line, I won. She flipped over the next card in the library:  {Whelming Wave}. That's what I call a close one, and we had a good laugh over it.
But don't be like: if I had pulled my wrath your creatures would have been dead blah-blah when you've gotten stomped.
Delivery, attitude and situation matter a lot.
Then again, I try to keep my experiences fun, and I know from the prereleases I tend to build to complicated. I'm nowhere near a Spike, though I love the combo theories and the rule intricacies. That makes I can pretty much counter all what-ifs with answers that would get me the win even with what-ifs. Shuts people up. Ok, in the meta I did my prereleases in, people were actually impressed I passed my Rules Advisor test, that might help.
But, to get to the point of my essay: try to take it in your stride, ignore the poor loser or the braggart. And most of all, have fun! It's a game!

Dsx Cherno

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on May 09, 2015, 05:23:41 PM

Tell him you beat him how it was played and ifs don't mean anything. Counter his ifs with ifs to shows how pointless it is. He needs to get over himself.

"If Ifs and buts was candies and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas"

Avodroc13

I rarely get to finish a game now. I've been working for about 6 months to complete my artifact deck and from using iMTG, in about a week I'll have a completed (casual) deck.

My brother and a few friends refuse to play against me when I use it because they say they have nothing to counter it with. They don't buy cards to make their decks better. So any time I try to play against them, they are sluggish and make moves that would make it easy to beat them. (Ie: attacking with no mana avaliable against an 11/11 with a 2/2.) It makes me not even want to play with them. I made a great deck (in my eyes), but so far, it was for nothing because I play with the same people most of the time. It's as if they give up before trying.

MuggyWuggy

Called learning the game. If you don't like counters, play blue or learn to leyline if you're going casual