Full art lands

[Codester1991]

are full art lands from the unhinged or unglued sets legal in modern tournaments? I'm only running a "one of" of plains, swamps, and forests, but need to know if it's okay to do so

[rarehuntertay]

They are legal

[Codester1991]

They are legal

Woo! Cool beans!

[Kaylesh]

Just checked. On the app they show up as Modern legal. As long as a card has the same English name it is treated as the same card for legality sake I believe. So you could run a 6th edition {pacifism} in modern.

EDIT: waay to late I notice :p

[LinkCelestrial]

I have a slightly played mountain kicking around. Cool.

[redwolv]

No mean to tread jack but... What about proxy/fake lands. I know you can make and use custom tokens but what about lands? I know you can't for normal cards but seeing as basic lands are so... Basic could you?

[Kaylesh]

No mean to tread jack but... What about proxy/fake lands. I know you can make and use custom tokens but what about lands? I know you can't for normal cards but seeing as basic lands are so... Basic could you?

Done it plenty of times in tabletop. Competitive REL is a different story I think though. Don't think any proxies are allowed, but I really gotta study on that part of the rules.. Anyone who can confirm?

[Remillo]

In an sort of sanctioned tournament (FNM, PPTQs, GPs, etc.), Proxies are 100% not allowed.

[redwolv]

In an sort of sanctioned tournament (FNM, PPTQs, GPs, etc.), Proxies are 100% not allowed.

Thats what i thought, bit last fnm i saw i guy with full art "islands"  of bikini clad women.

[particle]

Those were probably alters, which by the rule book are legal (unless they're offensive or pg13+) but the head judge can say no because he's a dick.

Lol Taysby. You can't just make a blanket comment that "alters are legal according to the rule book."  Alters that follow specific guidelines may be approved by the head judge.

[redwolv]

Those were probably alters, which by the rule book are legal (unless they're offensive or pg13+) but the head judge can say no because he's a dick.

Lol Taysby. You can't just make a blanket comment that "alters are legal according to the rule book."  Alters that follow specific guidelines may be approved by the head judge.

So what would those be? And what makes it an alter?

[particle]

Those were probably alters, which by the rule book are legal (unless they're offensive or pg13+) but the head judge can say no because he's a dick.

Lol Taysby. You can't just make a blanket comment that "alters are legal according to the rule book."  Alters that follow specific guidelines may be approved by the head judge.

So what would those be? And what makes it an alter?

An alter is a card that has been changed, normally painted or drawn on in some way. Sometimes it's because the card got damaged but often its a way to just have people show off their cards.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/incredible-altered-magic-the-gathering-cards

Now alter legality is a different story. If you copy the art of {brainstorm} onto a {ponder} that would be very confusing and most likely illegal in any sanctioned event. However, normal alters that aren't being made to confuse players should be approved by the head judge assuming:
The card name is visible.
The converted mana cost is visible.
The original art is recognizable (this one is the most controversial).
Otherwise the card can't be easily searched out by being thicker than a normal card or heavier or the like.

Here's a link to a magic judges blog where they discuss it fully.
http://blogs.magicjudges.org/rulestips/2013/06/tournament-tuesday-card-alters-and-you/

[redwolv]

Thank you. +1