R/U Delver

[cltrn81]

I like the 2 Jitte over 2 swords.  Besides I own 2 jitte and 1 sword 😜. Also, I see your point about the snappies but I really am trying to keep the odds of flipPing delver as high as they can be.  I love sensei's as well and use it a lot but I really want delver to flip ASAP.....like T2 and I will do everything to maintain those odds.  I agree that a mid-game sensei's can also help flip the delver but I guess I am just banking on an early finish opposed to the latter.

[Death Gaara]

Gaara what is your opinion of {firebolt} over {lightning bolt}?

Not a fan of it. If you want to kill quickly, lightning bolt is preferred IMO. I realize it does not have flashback, but to me, {Firebolt} is not worth the extra one. Plus, being able to bolt a dude in response to someone attempting to equip with a sword is a good play that cannot be made with {Firebolt} due to sorcery speed. If your goal is to hit quick, I think Lightning Bolts and minimum 2 Snapcasters is required. I realize you are worried about the flips off of the delver, but legacy is too fast to play less consistent cards just for that reason. The only reason it is applicable in standard is because there aren't decks that are going to kill you in the first 4 turns. I think the consistency of cards is more important than the consistency of flipping the Delver (although with what you have in your deck, it should happen often enough). The logic on sword is also mainly a preference thing. Seeing as how Jitte is legendary, there is always the slim chance of a game you can have 2 swords in play. Where as Jitte you can only have one in play at a time. I do realize its a marginal difference, but that marginal difference can make or break a game. One could argue that if your Jitte is destroyed, that you still have another. But I feel the sword provides almost as much advantage as Jitte without having the legend attached to it. Either way you look at the equation, both 2 Jittes and 1 Sword and 2 Swords and 1 Jitte are perfectly fine and acceptable packages.

[cltrn81]

I will bring back the {lightning bolts} but honestly I would rather double my odds of drawing the jitte since it costs 1 less to play than the sword.  That 1 mana difference means I can have a jitte in play with 2 counters on it by the time I can have a sword in play and equipped.  Let's face it, a jitte in play with 2 counters gives you a lot of control.

[Death Gaara]

I will bring back the {lightning bolts} but honestly I would rather double my odds of drawing the jitte since it costs 1 less to play than the sword.  That 1 mana difference means I can have a jitte in play with 2 counters on it by the time I can have a sword in play and equipped.  Let's face it, a jitte in play with 2 counters gives you a lot of control.

Like I said, I dont debate that at all. Both packages are fine. Its really just a matter of play style. I just like the odds of having multiple equipment (should the situation call for it) out as opposed to only one. Lets face it, Jitte is a powerful card no doubt, but also a HIGHLY overrated card. Everybody and there mother plays the stupid card. It really comes down to what your Meta is. If there are alot of people who play Jitte, I think 2 swords are better. If there are less-medium amount of people who play Jitte, 2 is fine. In either meta example I gave though, I support both packages being playable.

[Leevai420]

How about adding vexing devil from the new set?👍🔥😱

When u build a deck with vexing devil you have to consider him a burn spell.

[cltrn81]

I don't like {vexing devil} in legacy.  Especially in a delver deck since, like you say, it is no better than an instant or sorcery except it counts as a creature which takes up valuable room in a creature slot which is already limited in a delver deck and it lowers the odds of flipping delver if you add him in a sorcery slot.

[Dstyle1]

Jitte >>>>> sword of feast and famine

F/F doesn't even make top 3 in usable swords in legacy. With so much Thalia running around legacy faf will cost 4 to cast without a mystic to cheat it in.

Rule of thumb for jitte is you play it to use it or blow up the other persons jitte.

[cltrn81]

Jitte >>>>> sword of feast and famine

F/F doesn't even make top 3 in usable swords in legacy. With so much Thalia running around legacy faf will cost 4 to cast without a mystic to cheat it in.

Rule of thumb for jitte is you play it to use it or blow up the other persons jitte.

I will see you Thalia and raise you one spell snare.

War an peace was MB but the F/F helps untap after I miracle.  Just a trial thing have not tested too much

[Dstyle1]

Stoneforge laughs at spell snares, but cancels out Thalia argument together. And she tutors for 1 ofs.

[cltrn81]

Stoneforge laughs at spell snares, but cancels out Thalia argument together. And she tutors for 1 ofs.

I am not arguing the power of Stoneforge, I just like the Swords with Delver.  R/U delver decks can sputter out if they cant finish early and the swords can offer that finisher that people can't respond too.  I mean the sword is a 1 of in this deck, I could see your point of taking it out if I had 4 copies of it in here.  I would prefer to draw Unezawas cuz I think it gives you more board control and that is why it is a 2 of in here.  The swords are meant to be SB in and out based on opponents deck color.  Gaara made the point to me that FaF goes good with miracles since you can untap lands so I stuck it in MB instead of WaP.

[Harmon74]

Gaara what is your opinion of {firebolt} over {lightning bolt}?

I'm not gaara, but I like {lightning bolt} better.  Instant.

[JaCe BeLeReN]

Gaara what is your opinion of {firebolt} over {lightning bolt}?

I know you asked Gaara, but I would choose {Lightning Bolt}. For a lot less mana it deals 3 damage and is helpful in beginning game or when you can't spare the extra mana.

[Kuberr]

I'm sorry, but this deck makes me hate these sets even more. It's like what planeswalkers did to mtg as a whole. Seeing standard net decks in legacy. It makes me sad.

[cltrn81]

I'm sorry, but this deck makes me hate these sets even more. It's like what planeswalkers did to mtg as a whole. Seeing standard net decks in legacy. It makes me sad.

I don't understand it.  Boo hoo let's cry cuz the new cards are powerful?  Would you rather the new sets suck or would you complain about that too?  Or do you want the same old thing to be ever so powerful in Legacy.....I don't understand what you are complaining about and I would rather you take your complaints elsewhere as this thread was established to share a deck idea and seek constructive critism.......operative word there was constructive.....

[Kuberr]

I would rather the new sets not have only options for 5 deck lists. All made from people going on websites and creating what they read other people using.

But anyways, good luck with the deck. Hope you don't run into creature killers or millstones!