Cycle ftw!

Started by Kaylesh, March 07, 2015, 03:01:22 AM

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Kaylesh

Opponent has a {phaige, the untouchable} out. Play {astral slide}, cycle a card, win!

Pi

Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:01:22 AM
Opponent has a {phaige, the untouchable} out. Play {astral slide}, cycle a card, win!
Give them a Phage, {Donate} a {Ring of Ma'rûf}, {Mindslaver} them to activate the ring. You cast {Show and Tell} from your hand (with {Leyline of Anticipation} giving it flash). You make them play Phage and lose.

Unfortunately, this combo doesn't come with a map, but I think I covered everything.

particle

Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:01:22 AM
Opponent has a {phaige, the untouchable} out. Play {astral slide}, cycle a card, win!
Give them a Phage, {Donate} a {Ring of Ma'rûf}, {Mindslaver} them to activate the ring. You cast {Show and Tell} from your hand (with {Leyline of Anticipation} giving it flash). You make them play Phage and lose.

Unfortunately, this combo doesn't come with a map, but I think I covered everything.

So they have to have phage in hand? Did you put it there? Or they are just running it naturally and saw it off {gitaxian probe}.

Kaylesh

Quote from: particle on March 07, 2015, 11:41:38 AM
Quote from: Pi on March 07, 2015, 11:38:00 AM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:01:22 AM
Opponent has a {phaige, the untouchable} out. Play {astral slide}, cycle a card, win!
Give them a Phage, {Donate} a {Ring of Ma'rûf}, {Mindslaver} them to activate the ring. You cast {Show and Tell} from your hand (with {Leyline of Anticipation} giving it flash). You make them play Phage and lose.

Unfortunately, this combo doesn't come with a map, but I think I covered everything.

So they have to have phage in hand? Did you put it there? Or they are just running it naturally and saw it off {gitaxian probe}.
You fetch the phage with the ring. Casual only. You cast show and tell during the controlled turn from your own hand. Would it not be easier to cast phage, donate and then use the cycle-flicker I described??
EDIT: doh! Owners control.

particle

I still don't understand how mind slavering your opponent can cause them to show and tell in phage if you ringed to get phage in your own hand.

griffin131

Quote from: particle on March 07, 2015, 03:18:20 PM
I still don't understand how mind slavering your opponent can cause them to show and tell in phage if you ringed to get phage in your own hand.
You donate the ring. You mindslaver them and activate the ring. Since you're controlling them, you get Phage for them. The. You Show and Tell and play Phage for them.

Kaylesh

Quote from: particle on March 07, 2015, 03:18:20 PM
I still don't understand how mind slavering your opponent can cause them to show and tell in phage if you ringed to get phage in your own hand.
You donate the ring, then mindslave them to use it to fetch Phage in their hand. Then show and tell as instant from your hand. They put down Phage, lose as it wasn't cast.

As said, does require a Phage owned by opponent in casual, or a Phage in his SB for tourney.

particle

Does casual let you play cards from your opponents sideboard? Otherwise he would need phage in his board.

Kaylesh

Casual: any card in your collection. Be a dork and gift him one for hosting the night :p

particle

Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:24:43 PM
Casual: any card in your collection. Be a dork and gift him one for hosting the night :p

Lol I can see it now. Here take this awesome card.... Two hours later... You bastard!!!

Kaylesh

Quote from: particle on March 07, 2015, 03:27:48 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on March 07, 2015, 03:24:43 PM
Casual: any card in your collection. Be a dork and gift him one for hosting the night :p

Lol I can see it now. Here take this awesome card.... Two hours later... You bastard!!!
Tx. That one gave my quite the laugh I needed :)

Dsx Cherno

What happens if you manifest Phage? Does flipping her trigger her lose con?

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 09, 2015, 03:13:03 PM
What happens if you manifest Phage? Does flipping her trigger her lose con?

Nope. Unless you flipped her via blinking.

Dsx Cherno

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 09, 2015, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 09, 2015, 03:13:03 PM
What happens if you manifest Phage? Does flipping her trigger her lose con?

Nope. Unless you flipped her via blinking.


Hmm. Very interesting

Dsx Cherno

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on March 09, 2015, 03:14:46 PM
Quote from: Dsx Cherno on March 09, 2015, 03:13:03 PM
What happens if you manifest Phage? Does flipping her trigger her lose con?

Nope. Unless you flipped her via blinking.


So on that reasoning, it wouldn't matter how Phage was morph/manifested. That would completely negate her lose con. That could be exploitable