Exile before you exile?

[the_intelligentleman]

If I use the new Narsets -2, (give an instant or sorcery rebound), on {Temporal Trespass,} can I stack the triggers so that the rebound triggers first, exiling it before the card can exile itself? If so, I just netted myself three turns.

[Ekann1]

608.2j If an instant spell, sorcery spell, or ability that can legally resolve leaves the stack once it starts to resolve, it will continue to resolve fully.

608.2k As the final part of an instant or sorcery spell's resolution, the spell is put into its owner's graveyard. As the final part of an ability's resolution, the ability is removed from the stack and ceases to exist.

From this, I would say no. As part of resolving the spell, it will exile itself before it would go to the graveyard (and have that replaced by going to exile from rebound).

[LinkCelestrial]

I looked it up earlier. I can't find the ruling, but if the spell gets exiled upon resolution it doesn't work.

[Nfidel2k]

The first part of rebound is a replacement effect that exiles the spell instead of putting it in your graveyard.  Temporal trespass exiles itself as it resolves so it never makes it to the graveyard for the first part of rebound.

[particle]

Yea the exile isn't a trigger that can be stacked. It is simply part of the resolution of {temporal trespass}. Giving it rebound won't override its rules text.

[Sardok]

Actually...

702.87a Rebound appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents a static ability that functions while the spell is on the stack and may create a delayed triggered ability. "Rebound" means "If this spell was cast from your hand, instead of putting it into your graveyard as it resolves, exile it and, at the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost." #

Rebound doesn't care how the card gets exiled (there is no "if you do" clause), only that you can only rebound an exiled card. So you can still rebound a card like {Temporal Trespass}.

This is similar to the old {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Whip of Erebos} ruling.

[LinkCelestrial]

Actually...

702.87a Rebound appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents a static ability that functions while the spell is on the stack and may create a delayed triggered ability. "Rebound" means "If this spell was cast from your hand, instead of putting it into your graveyard as it resolves, exile it and, at the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost." #

Rebound doesn't care how the card gets exiled, only that you can only rebound an exiled card. So you can still rebound a card like {Temporal Trespass}.

This is similar to the old {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Whip of Erebos} ruling.

Not true. That ruling was evading the trigger, not satisfying it. Rebound does not work on {Temporal Trespass}.

[Sardok]

Actually...

702.87a Rebound appears on some instants and sorceries. It represents a static ability that functions while the spell is on the stack and may create a delayed triggered ability. "Rebound" means "If this spell was cast from your hand, instead of putting it into your graveyard as it resolves, exile it and, at the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost." #

Rebound doesn't care how the card gets exiled, only that you can only rebound an exiled card. So you can still rebound a card like {Temporal Trespass}.

This is similar to the old {Obzedat, Ghost Council} and {Whip of Erebos} ruling.

Not true. That ruling was evading the trigger, not satisfying it. Rebound does not work on {Temporal Trespass}.

After looking at the rulings for {Cast through Time}, you are correct. My apologies.

Please disregard my post above.

[Oldschoolmtgnoob]

Wow, exile can be a confusing place...It seems as though an exiled card holds information on it; what it was exiled by. So rebound only works if exiled BY rebound. If something else exiled it before, then rebound doesnt find it. That's a hard one.

[Nfidel2k]

The second part of rebound is a delayed trigger that is linked to the first part of rebound.  You don't get the delayed trigger unless rebound exiled the card, as it references the exiled card.

[Kaylesh]

I think the crux is in this piece of the ruling: "nstead of putting it into your graveyard as it resolves". This replaces the put in gy part of a spells resolution. Since spells exiled as part of their resolution don't hit the gy, this replacement effect never takes place, so no rebound.