Null Storm

Started by Munchlax, February 23, 2015, 07:11:46 PM

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Munchlax


Null Storm

60 cards, 0 sideboard


4 {Crookshank Kobolds}
4 {Kobolds of Kher Keep}
4 {Ornithopter}
4 {Simian Spirit Guide}
4 {Crimson Kobolds}
4 {Elvish Spirit Guide}
4 {Street Wraith}

28 creatures


3 {Null Profusion}
4 {Gitaxian Probe}
2 {Pyretic Ritual}
2 {Recycle}
4 {Manamorphose}
4 {Dark Ritual}
1 {Grapeshot}
4 {Lotus Petal}
4 {Noxious Revival}
4 {Cabal Ritual}

32 other spells


Sideboard

Notes:
So um yeah. The turbojank deck. Either wins or fails miserably. Very all in. But hey it's pretty not bad. Costs just shy of 100 dollars. T1 potential with t3-t5 more likely. Won two games out of 5 so far

Munchlax

Quote from: ConanEdo on February 24, 2015, 02:43:00 AM
Good old legacy Cheerios. If {Pact of Negation} is still reasonably priced it's an excellent budget force for this deck.

Edit: damn, it jumped with Amulet combo decks exploding, still, you can get four for less than a Force
Yeah I know. Thanks though. I found an article about recycle and null profusion and just decided to build hank cheerios

NovusOrbis

Could you show me how this works please? I can't seem to find the combo.

Thetrufflehunter

Quote from: NovusOrbis on February 24, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
Could you show me how this works please? I can't seem to find the combo.
Generate enough mana with rituals, petals, and guides to either play {Null Profusion} or {Recycle}. Cycle through the rest of the deck (play, draw, play, draw, rinse and repeat) because pretty much everything costs 0 (hence the name) and draws another spell. Grapeshot for your storm count of janky spells.

Munchlax

Quote from: Thetrufflehunter on February 24, 2015, 08:06:50 PM
Quote from: NovusOrbis on February 24, 2015, 05:25:46 PM
Could you show me how this works please? I can't seem to find the combo.
Generate enough mana with rituals, petals, and guides to either play {Null Profusion} or {Recycle}. Cycle through the rest of the deck (play, draw, play, draw, rinse and repeat) because pretty much everything costs 0 (hence the name) and draws another spell. Grapeshot for your storm count of janky spells.
Exactly. Or just have {grapeshot} and 2 copies of {Noxious Revival}

NovusOrbis

Awesome! Thanks guys! This deck is pretty awesome, I always wanted to see one that used the kobolds.

particle

What about {glimpse of nature}?

Munchlax

Quote from: particle on February 25, 2015, 03:25:33 PM
What about {glimpse of nature}?
I considered it but I'd rather not have to generate more mana for that when I already have a solid win

Mattao19


particle

{recycle} seems quite expensive cmc wise. Once you get to 6 mana, do you normally still have cards in your hand to fuel it. I'm suprised glimpse isn't better here since it's so much cheaper.

Munchlax

Quote from: particle on February 26, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
{recycle} seems quite expensive cmc wise. Once you get to 6 mana, do you normally still have cards in your hand to fuel it. I'm suprised glimpse isn't better here since it's so much cheaper.
But I like the feeling of being able to play anything to draw cards

particle

Quote from: Munchlax on February 27, 2015, 12:30:16 AM
Quote from: particle on February 26, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
{recycle} seems quite expensive cmc wise. Once you get to 6 mana, do you normally still have cards in your hand to fuel it. I'm suprised glimpse isn't better here since it's so much cheaper.
But I like the feeling of being able to play anything to draw cards

Understandable. I would test both and see which is faster. The discard also seems rough if your just 1 mana short one turn to set up the next.

Munchlax

Quote from: particle on February 27, 2015, 08:50:10 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on February 27, 2015, 12:30:16 AM
Quote from: particle on February 26, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
{recycle} seems quite expensive cmc wise. Once you get to 6 mana, do you normally still have cards in your hand to fuel it. I'm suprised glimpse isn't better here since it's so much cheaper.
But I like the feeling of being able to play anything to draw cards

Understandable. I would test both and see which is faster. The discard also seems rough if your just 1 mana short one turn to set up the next.
I have tried both. Also it's notable to say that you can run five copies of Null Profusion but only four of glimpse

particle

Quote from: Munchlax on February 27, 2015, 12:31:35 PM
Quote from: particle on February 27, 2015, 08:50:10 AM
Quote from: Munchlax on February 27, 2015, 12:30:16 AM
Quote from: particle on February 26, 2015, 10:57:31 AM
{recycle} seems quite expensive cmc wise. Once you get to 6 mana, do you normally still have cards in your hand to fuel it. I'm suprised glimpse isn't better here since it's so much cheaper.
But I like the feeling of being able to play anything to draw cards

Understandable. I would test both and see which is faster. The discard also seems rough if your just 1 mana short one turn to set up the next.
I have tried both. Also it's notable to say that you can run five copies of Null Profusion but only four of glimpse

True but 5 6 cmc engines seems worse then 4 1 cmc engines. Plus the first makes you be totally all in and if your short you lose. Whereas with glimpse you can build to lethal.