Magic: Origins (Speculation and Spoilers)

Started by Agrus Kos, Enforcer of Truth, February 08, 2015, 01:16:45 PM

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the_intelligentleman

All of the walkers are just bad. I'm veyr disappointed.

LinkCelestrial

IMO Liliana is the worst one. Jace is very reasonably priced. I'd rather play {Jace, Architect of Thought} for defence or {Jace, Memory Adept} for mill /but this Jace is two mana/. He also comes in at 5. He is not "good" but I think he's solid value for mana. If he was a 0/4 we'd be in serious business as a solid chump blocker for control into a self protecting win con.

I think that Chandra is very viable. A three mana untapping pinger is pretty sick. Her emblem is basically "you win, or win soon". The only problem is her middle ability is kinda...terrible. I mean -2 for a half power {Flameslash}? C'mon!

Nissa is, IMO, really solid. If only she flipped at ~5 lands. She tutors a land on a reasonable 2/2 frame. Then her +1 is card draw, awesome. I think it's a neat limitation that her middle ability puts out a legendary. It's a reasonable ability. Her ult isn't /amazing/ but it's solid. I'm not one for green but I like it. I know she isn't, but is she a viable {Scapeshift} card?

rarehuntertay

Lily will be sweet in my Alesha TL... Come on, a recurring PW? And I have several ways to make sure she flips...

lotrwk


Deebiia

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 14, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
IMO Liliana is the worst one. Jace is very reasonably priced. I'd rather play {Jace, Architect of Thought} for defence or {Jace, Memory Adept} for mill /but this Jace is two mana/. He also comes in at 5. He is not "good" but I think he's solid value for mana. If he was a 0/4 we'd be in serious business as a solid chump blocker for control into a self protecting win con.

I think that Chandra is very viable. A three mana untapping pinger is pretty sick. Her emblem is basically "you win, or win soon". The only problem is her middle ability is kinda...terrible. I mean -2 for a half power {Flameslash}? C'mon!

Nissa is, IMO, really solid. If only she flipped at ~5 lands. She tutors a land on a reasonable 2/2 frame. Then her +1 is card draw, awesome. I think it's a neat limitation that her middle ability puts out a legendary. It's a reasonable ability. Her ult isn't /amazing/ but it's solid. I'm not one for green but I like it. I know she isn't, but is she a viable {Scapeshift} card?
I guess I really like her since her + makes it a lot easier on my spells. I can focus my spells on creatures instead of targeting the opponent.

Remillo

You guys should realize that Chandra doesn't care how she deals the damage, only that she's dealt 3 or more damage that turn.  If you need to flip her, you can, say, attack in for 2, bolt them, tap her to ping and get the flip.  Also, you can stack up the damage by activating her, casting a spell to untap, tap, cast to untap, etc.  you can chain together maybe 3 or 4 activations like that with Shocks and Bolts before each one resolves and eventually flip her, to finish off with a +1.  She has cool potential, you just have to work in weird ways.

General Kiwi

I'm shocked no one is talking about mizzium meddlers

Kaalia with haste

Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 14, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
IMO Liliana is the worst one. Jace is very reasonably priced. I'd rather play {Jace, Architect of Thought} for defence or {Jace, Memory Adept} for mill /but this Jace is two mana/. He also comes in at 5. He is not "good" but I think he's solid value for mana. If he was a 0/4 we'd be in serious business as a solid chump blocker for control into a self protecting win con.

I think that Chandra is very viable. A three mana untapping pinger is pretty sick. Her emblem is basically "you win, or win soon". The only problem is her middle ability is kinda...terrible. I mean -2 for a half power {Flameslash}? C'mon!

Nissa is, IMO, really solid. If only she flipped at ~5 lands. She tutors a land on a reasonable 2/2 frame. Then her +1 is card draw, awesome. I think it's a neat limitation that her middle ability puts out a legendary. It's a reasonable ability. Her ult isn't /amazing/ but it's solid. I'm not one for green but I like it. I know she isn't, but is she a viable {Scapeshift} card?
Dude Lili is easily the best one. Play her with any other creature, and your opponent can't make any meaningful attacks in without flipping Lili. One lili flips she will dominate the game. Your guy dies? He's back, don't worry 'bout it. Don't have a guy to reanimate? How about an awesome +2? All this and a freaking zombie token when she flips. This all comes in a neat package of 1BB for a 2/3 lifelink. If LOTV didn't already see modern play, I could see this in a lot of the GBx decks.

Ekann1

Quote from: Kaalia with haste on June 15, 2015, 09:34:58 AM
Quote from: LinkCelestrial on June 14, 2015, 04:29:30 PM
IMO Liliana is the worst one. Jace is very reasonably priced. I'd rather play {Jace, Architect of Thought} for defence or {Jace, Memory Adept} for mill /but this Jace is two mana/. He also comes in at 5. He is not "good" but I think he's solid value for mana. If he was a 0/4 we'd be in serious business as a solid chump blocker for control into a self protecting win con.

I think that Chandra is very viable. A three mana untapping pinger is pretty sick. Her emblem is basically "you win, or win soon". The only problem is her middle ability is kinda...terrible. I mean -2 for a half power {Flameslash}? C'mon!

Nissa is, IMO, really solid. If only she flipped at ~5 lands. She tutors a land on a reasonable 2/2 frame. Then her +1 is card draw, awesome. I think it's a neat limitation that her middle ability puts out a legendary. It's a reasonable ability. Her ult isn't /amazing/ but it's solid. I'm not one for green but I like it. I know she isn't, but is she a viable {Scapeshift} card?
Dude Lili is easily the best one. Play her with any other creature, and your opponent can't make any meaningful attacks in without flipping Lili. One lili flips she will dominate the game. Your guy dies? He's back, don't worry 'bout it. Don't have a guy to reanimate? How about an awesome +2? All this and a freaking zombie token when she flips. This all comes in a neat package of 1BB for a 2/3 lifelink. If LOTV didn't already see modern play, I could see this in a lot of the GBx decks.
Yeah, I feel like an important part people are glancing over is that she makes a 2/2 to protect herself or do whatever else needs to be done...

griffin131

{Spellskite} is cool, but Meddlers allows surprise. That's huge.

Remillo

Well, Chandra's Ignition is insanely flavorful and very, very aptly named.

Kaylesh

Quote from: Remillo on June 15, 2015, 12:40:29 PM
Well, Chandra's Ignition is insanely flavorful and very, very aptly named.
Kaboom!
Let's target a lifelink creature with that.

EDIT:
Chandra's Ignition
{3}{R}{R}
Sorcery
Target creature you control deals damage equal to its power to each other creature and each opponent.

rarehuntertay

Quote from: Kaylesh on June 15, 2015, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: Remillo on June 15, 2015, 12:40:29 PM
Well, Chandra's Ignition is insanely flavorful and very, very aptly named.
Kaboom!
Let's target a lifelink creature with that.

EDIT:
Chandra's Ignition
{3}{R}{R}
Sorcery
Target creature you control deals damage equal to its power to each other creature and each opponent.
{Blightsteel Colossus}anyone?

MuggyWuggy

The whole idea of collected company into potential PWs is kind of nice, I'm not sure how I feel about nissa, seems kind of weak compared to world waker

Kaylesh

Quote from: rarehuntertay on June 15, 2015, 12:55:44 PM
Quote from: Kaylesh on June 15, 2015, 12:43:30 PM
Quote from: Remillo on June 15, 2015, 12:40:29 PM
Well, Chandra's Ignition is insanely flavorful and very, very aptly named.
Kaboom!
Let's target a lifelink creature with that.

EDIT:
Chandra's Ignition
{3}{R}{R}
Sorcery
Target creature you control deals damage equal to its power to each other creature and each opponent.
{Blightsteel Colossus}anyone?
Yoinks!
My mind read each PLAYER instead of each opponent... That's gonna kill games.