Dropping from a draft.

Started by particle, January 22, 2015, 08:58:25 PM

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Teysa karlov

If a pull a foil goyf  + another powerful rare in a draft that I entered I would drop.

Legally by the law you have bought 3 boosters they are yours it is your choose to draft them. If you get banned that is a dick move on part of store owner.

Most well organised tournaments  will just sell you another pack, or will make you open any remaining boosters, and drop from the tournement.

MuggyWuggy

I think if you opened an MM pack with a foil goyf and dark confidant - most every player would understand you keeping it other than the guy you're passing to, who is mainly upset he doesn't get the confidant

Dsx Cherno

"Legally by the law you have bought 3 boosters they are yours it is your choose to draft them. If you get banned that is a dick move on part of store owner. "

That's a good point. If you choose to take the whole pack, I think the owner should hand you the rest of the packs ur owed, and tell you to get up. I'm not expecting anyone to be banned from the store, but you gave up your right to play.

LinkCelestrial

I think people get more frustrated with this than they should.

If you're ticked that somebody dropped because you want a chance at the money card(s) they pulled, first of all, you'd drop too by the sounds of things. Second of all that increases your shot at a bye which is a free win towards prizing. Third of all, you selfish prick. Be happy that somebody got decent pulls.

It is your right to drop just as it's your right to play. I'm personally massively in favor of just buying and cracking another pack. I'm happy, I just paid for my draft /and/ I get to play. Store is happy, I bought more stuff. Most people are happy, they still get to play.

Besides all this sometimes you need to drop. Wife goes into labour and you're going to get held there? Getting in a bad mood and just don't wanna be there? Have such a crappy deck you don't wanna waste your time? That option ought to be open. IMO standard procedure should be to just get another pack.


Dsx Cherno

I fully understand needing to drop for whatever reason. I just think if ur pulling ur pack, it's a drop

Dmreiss

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on February 17, 2015, 08:56:09 PM
I fully understand needing to drop for whatever reason. I just think if ur pulling ur pack, it's a drop
I  agree with this.  You are choosing not to abide by the rules of the game.  It should be treated as a drop. 

Munchlax

Another thing to note is that the cards in the pack are not technically yours. One card is. The rest belong to whoever is in the group.

LinkCelestrial

Quote from: Munchlax on February 17, 2015, 09:21:20 PM
Another thing to note is that the cards in the pack are not technically yours. One card is. The rest belong to whoever is in the group.

Technically, yes. Legally? No. To me? No.

Rass

Quote from: Munchlax on February 17, 2015, 09:21:20 PM
Another thing to note is that the cards in the pack are not technically yours. One card is. The rest belong to whoever is in the group.

I would disagree with you on that. Let's say you crack  the first pack and something happens you have to go right now. Do you leave the cards and unopened pack?

particle

Quote from: Munchlax on February 17, 2015, 09:21:20 PM
Another thing to note is that the cards in the pack are not technically yours. One card is. The rest belong to whoever is in the group.

They are technically yours. The official ruling from wizards as stated early in this post is that a person has the right at any point in a sealed event to take the product in front of them and leave. That's why this was more of a moral question. Do you have the right to leave with the stuff according to wizards? Yes. Is it right to leave with the stuff? Up for discussion...

Falcon182

Quote from: Dsx Cherno on February 17, 2015, 08:56:09 PM
I fully understand needing to drop for whatever reason. I just think if ur pulling ur pack, it's a drop

I agree with you completely. Wanting to keep your packs is fine and good but you forfeit the right to play in that event.

the_intelligentleman

I still think the best option is to ask the store owner for a new pack, buy it, put your old pack aside and continue with the draft.

Cender

Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 18, 2015, 11:30:40 AM
I still think the best option is to ask the store owner for a new pack, buy it, put your old pack aside and continue with the draft.
I still think the best option is to establish the house rules at the start of the draft. You don't agree, you don't get to draft. Makes life so much easier.

Rass

Quote from: Cender on February 18, 2015, 12:16:34 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 18, 2015, 11:30:40 AM
I still think the best option is to ask the store owner for a new pack, buy it, put your old pack aside and continue with the draft.
I still think the best option is to establish the house rules at the start of the draft. You don't agree, you don't get to draft. Makes life so much easier.

So true.

DirtyMustachio

Quote from: Cender on February 18, 2015, 12:16:34 PM
Quote from: the_intelligentleman on February 18, 2015, 11:30:40 AM
I still think the best option is to ask the store owner for a new pack, buy it, put your old pack aside and continue with the draft.
I still think the best option is to establish the house rules at the start of the draft. You don't agree, you don't get to draft. Makes life so much easier.

Fair enough but for sanctioned events you have to make your own calls based on wizards sanctioned tournament rules.

While you may be a douche to everyone, for that time period, it shouldn't really be this big of a deal I don't think. Just keep your cards and buy a new pack.